Dennis Rox
The 'Dennis Rox' podcast is a deep dive into the intricacies of personal development, self-growth, and the obstacles one may face on the way. Hosted by Eldar with regular guests Mike, Anatoliy, Phillip and Katherine, and Tommy the conversations explore themes such as anxiety, self-sabotage, the pursuit of happiness beyond materialism, and the complexities of love and relationships. Other topics include the impact of societal values on personal fulfillment, humility, and the often misconceived notions of success and wealth.
Through personal stories, philosophical debates, and thoughtful discussions, they explore various aspects of challenging one self and achieving personal growth. The conversation often shifts from individual experiences to broader societal critiques and is characterized by a focus on depth and seeking genuine understanding over superficial conclusions.
Dennis Rox
130. The Evolution of Harris: Stunts, Stones, and Self-Discovery
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Ever wondered how a reckless stuntman transforms into a polished member of society? Join us in this episode as we uncover Harris's incredible journey from seeking viral fame through dangerous antics to embracing authenticity and genuine personal growth. We'll juxtapose his initial reckless persona with his newfound passion for rock tumbling—a metaphor for his own life evolution. Expect candid, humorous moments, including Harris's memorable "lizard response," that add character to his story.
What drives people to align with societal movements like the woke culture or BLM? We dive into the complexities of social pressures, identity, and the influence of groupthink on our behavior. Through candid discussions and a few laugh-out-loud anecdotes, we question whether these alignments are born out of true belief or simply a result of societal pressure. Harris and Tom debate the balance between taking things lightly and recognizing the underlying psychological reasons for strong reactions to criticism, adding depth to our exploration of identity.
Feeling creative but struggling with criticism? Listen as we explore the nuances of creativity, personal attachment, and the impact of external pressures on our self-belief. Through personal stories and humor, we reflect on gratitude, the importance of staying true to oneself, and the emotional significance of personal experiences. From debating Trump's financial success to humorous exchanges about rock authenticity and New York pizza, this episode promises a rollercoaster of introspection, laughter, and inspiration. Tune in for a unique blend of serious discussion and lighthearted banter that defines our group dynamics.
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Speaker 2:What we're talking about really is for me to try to examine the truth, examine myself. I think it came to that point because I've just, in a way, been following my own breadcrumbs.
Speaker 1:When you take yourself seriously and you develop attachment to certain things, as soon as those things are being out in the open and people disagree with you on those things, you naturally have to defend yourself. Why?
Speaker 3:Because you have a horse in the race If writing is what makes you happy, then let writing just make you happy. Don't let writing or making this book an ultimate goal to prove something, to make you rich, to become a writer. I'm here before. I don't know if you had anyone else.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, we actually submitted it to a couple and you guys are the first ones who kind of reached out, okay. So we're like okay, let's just let's see what you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because this is fairly fresh. Yeah, and the quicker I can get you know involved with representation yeah, involved with representation the quicker the talent that's here, harris and whoever else is part of his team, can find that this is what I'm here to scout. We had people scout. We had the attention on him. They sent me the agent perfect to see, to see, to see what's out there okay, well, do you have any?
Speaker 1:do you have any questions regarding the clip that was submitted, like how did that resonate with you? At least, or maybe, so there was.
Speaker 1:You know, the biggest buzz around that clip was they didn't understand what lizard, lizard people, lizard man yeah, so the lizard is just, I guess, one of the many if to explain it is one of the many little was they didn't understand what lizard people, lizard man was, yeah, so the lizard is just, I guess, one of the many if to explain it is one of the many little trademark little things that Harris kind of does right. It's a kind of a natural little response to maybe to really define it as to like maybe he liked something, he tried something, he really liked it. So he gets like a response like a lizard response. So it's like sticking out the tongue and kind of like oh, you know, like a tail wag, like a tail wag.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yes, that's a good way to put it. You know so, and we found that to be brilliant, you know. So that's why we want to incorporate that in all the little short clips that we have.
Speaker 4:But before I guess we continue. Harris, do you want us to go change your diaper here? Go fuck yourself.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, there you go, that's another one, right, that's like the go fuck yourself is a very natural kind of occurrence oh fuck you. Yeah, oh fuck you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so those specific clips have been being, you know, re-shared over and, over and over. Go fuck yourself. There seems to be a soundboard of a lot of his sayings.
Speaker 1:Yes, for sure. Like I said, he's got a bunch of them. We think at least that those things are kind of gold.
Speaker 4:We even have some pre-recorded right.
Speaker 1:We do Not on this card, but we definitely have those. Like I said, we don't want to give everything away right away. You know, we definitely have those. Like I said, we don't want to give everything away right away, but yeah, I'm glad that you like the lizard, yeah.
Speaker 3:So I mean, with a lot of what we do, the talent that's out there, they could find themselves expanding beyond podcasts. I don't know how long you've been involved with the podcast world Two months, two months, okay. So if this is your main source of entertainment or if you expand outside of there, that's what the agency is looking to gravitate, to figure out and capitalize and monetize you as best as possible. Now, if you're here and your thoughts and your comments and your stories are best told on a podcast, then you go with that and you got ad revenue that comes in that you could submit into Dennis Rocks. You have partner deals.
Speaker 1:We are actually already talking about merch and stuff like that and actually product Exactly. There's a thing that's going to come out. There's a whole season going to come out about him actually getting into a new hobby which is called rock tumbling. Yeah, that's something that's in our back pocket. That's definitely one of those things where we're going to sell some products as well.
Speaker 3:Can you expand on what rock tumbling is Well?
Speaker 5:it was actually, uh, eldar's brilliant idea. Uh, I've been living. I was living in nebraska for what? Three years. Yeah, uh, I'm I guess you could say I'm kind of an idiot everything I do. Uh, I got a foul mouth. Go fuck yourself bro okay, but they have been trying to, I guess, shape me into what I need to be. But they're trying to take everyone on a journey of my day-to-day life, how I act around them, how I am in public and you know, people just like it.
Speaker 3:So do you tumble rocks at all?
Speaker 5:well, you know oh yeah, connect yeah he was yeah, I was gonna, yeah, let him connect. So we just finished our first week of tumbling the rocks. You know, you put all the uh polish in there, uh, and you make them sparkle like they're trying to do with me. Right now I'm a blank rock and they're trying to evolve me, but you're not fondling these rocks. No, I'm not fondling the rocks.
Speaker 1:But some of them do look like anal bees.
Speaker 5:Fuck you, son of a bitch.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, no, there's a significance there, right?
Speaker 1:What we've discovered when we started doing a little bit of research about rock tumbling for Harris is that it takes a long time to tumble a rock and, like you said, he's connecting the fact that we're trying to maybe tumble him a little bit into a better human.
Speaker 1:Like you said, he got a foul mouth, maybe he's a little bit rough around the edges, but hopefully in this environment he can grow into something much better and much more beautiful. And the rocks that he's actually tumbling now is going through the same thing, right Through a whole process of, you know, shuffling them up together with grit, you know, for a very long time First week, second week, third week. There's a whole steps to it, the whole process, and we actually documenting it right now in hopes that at the end of it all, after many, many, many weeks, you're going to see a very nice, beautiful product. And we're hoping the same thing, obviously, polishing a human. It takes a lot longer, right, but I think that there's a connection between those two activities, you know. So, and we'd like to document that because I think that in our hands, at least in this podcast, and what we're trying to do, I think Harris can grow into somebody who is competent, who is good productive and all the other things that make a good productive member of society.
Speaker 3:It sounds good because not only are you stumbling, we are stumbling across viral content creators. There's also a great message behind the fact that you're not just out there trying to make a mockery of people or society, you're actually trying to build something on top of that. So you got two positives You're becoming viral because of the character you are and people are falling in love with that, and also you're on a journey to better yourself. It will only propel, you know your image higher and expand yourself out to more and more companies that want to get involved. Whether it's reality TV shows, whether it's commercial work, whether it's brand deals, you know everything. The choices there are endless. You know it could go as far as you're willing to expand yourself. So that's a good thing.
Speaker 1:I think we've come to this phenomenon. When we first had a couple of podcasts I think you remember it where we had a topic I forgot what the topic was, but I think it was a second or third podcast where we talked about a very specific thing and Harris was still about I want to be viral, but I want to be stupid, I want to do jackass stuff and jackass stuff. And we were like you know, we started digging deeper and deeper in that and then harris found himself to be, I guess, maybe reflecting on all that stuff and he realized that he doesn't want to be, that he doesn't want to be a stupid kid who just hurts himself in order for people to laugh and then hold on harris. And then, within that realization and and reflection, we actually saw that harris actually was turning to be a like. He looked better, like right in front of our eyes.
Speaker 1:We recorded it on audio, but me and Mike, we all confirmed like, wait a second, he looks different because he had the sense to realize what he realized and he's like yeah, sure, I might've been an idiot or I had to be a thug back in the day when I was in a shelter, all this other stuff. He had a really good story right, but now he doesn't have to be. He can be vulnerable, he can be a good person and he can really go lean into a better life. So we saw that and I think that there's a great potential for that and I think if the world sees that, I think this can be actually very good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, if you're documenting it and it exists for people to see, people to hear, that's all you really need. We take care of the rest. You know we have a team that figures out your A to B how you get to places, whether it's, you know, ordering your Ubers, taking care of your documentation, getting your plane tickets to go to and from handling other podcasts, interviews, YouTubers, creative content, collaborator events and this is where you showcase and expand. And when these people all come together, they know who each other are. They work together. They just continuously expand and grow. So the more you document, the better, yeah.
Speaker 3:I think that's, in a nutshell, right, and obviously there's a lot more meat and potatoes out there which you get to see, maybe right sooner or later, as I'm preparing that portfolio for an unveil so today I'm left to go back to headquarters and discuss what I encounter, what I discovered, and if there's know what I encountered, what I discovered, and if there's anything else you want to send me with, whether it's we shoot something I see you have a DJI pocket recorder. Those are all over the office. That's. That's like the industry standard of what all the content creators are carrying. Okay, so if there's anything you want to put together that you want to brainstorm while we're here, shoot a little skit, whether it's a comedy, whether it's a, a prank, whether it's anything on the whim that we could, that I could take back along with what I'm getting gathering from the podcast. Yeah, that would be even the cherry on top, yeah, um. So if there's anything you could think of while we sit here, Absolutely.
Speaker 1:A lot of the things that we do is kind of on the fly and naturally organic, right, we don't prepare anything that's like prepared. Okay, you know, let's do this to do this. You know what I mean?
Speaker 5:No, it's not very organic, it's very yeah it. He usually just walks around with a video camera all day and coming up to me yeah. He's just videoing what I normally say and the shit I do, yeah exactly. It's like a reality show, that's totally real, exactly so.
Speaker 3:That's how reality shows are filmed. It's around the clock, 24-7, three crews. You got a crew from the morning time, from when they wake up to around lunchtime they break. Then you have a team that's from lunch to about nighttime for like their dinner break, and then you have a team that is around in case something goes on in the middle of the night. They need to have like a smaller crew that if something comes about. So those reality shows that you see are around the clock panels, shifts of people recording, so they don't miss any content, no matter what, what, whether it's the lights are off but the cameras are still rolling, um, anything. So that's that's smart on his part, because that's what got, you know, the attention of uh, you know, and the buzz around, you know, around oh yeah, like I said, I have a lot more in my back pocket already.
Speaker 1:That's, that's great. You know what I mean. So, yeah, so, not that we want to shoot something right now, it's just, I definitely have something that's really good that you will enjoy, and I can send that to you in private. Okay, yeah, okay, that's great, all right, all right. So back to the topic. All right. So the two topics that we and number one we could talk about gratitude, being grateful. What does it mean to be grateful? Why are some people grateful and why are some people are not grateful? And then maybe we can transition to another topic that the guys brought up, which was the woke mind virus. Talk about what that is, why that is and what's really going on with the world, because apparently there's a lot of people that are infected or affected by this woke mind virus, and maybe there are some people in here that were not just pegged by the dildo.
Speaker 5:Yeah, fucking Tommy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we'll talk about that. So what do you guys want to talk about first?
Speaker 2:I'm nibbling on the woke mind a little bit.
Speaker 5:Yeah, me too. You ready to get called out, boy?
Speaker 1:so tell me about why do you guys? Uh wanted to talk about this, so what's going on?
Speaker 4:totally talk to me well, I think tom's infected. You think tom is infected?
Speaker 2:yeah, you think everyone's infected. It doesn't matter what it is.
Speaker 1:Tom? Why do you think that is? Why do you think Tully thinks that you're infected?
Speaker 2:He lives in a kind of bubble. He's afraid of the outside world. He likes to live in a comfortable zone.
Speaker 1:What does that have to do with it?
Speaker 2:Anything that contradicts anything that he believes is reality is an instant threat Really? Tommy, you're literally talking about yourself, dude, he doesn't have the curious kind of self-nurturing cultural ability. If it's outside of what he, I think it's just because we're afraid of what we don't know. Is there any?
Speaker 1:chance that he's saying this, because he actually cares for you. Possibly, yeah, maybe, and that's a good thing um, would you be okay with him expanding on what he he thinks about you being affected by the walk my virus I don't think he should get into it.
Speaker 2:I think it'd be a waste of energy for him, and I'm telling him that because I care for him. Wow, can I just? It's okay, but I'm nibbling why? Because I've been reading women's literature recently. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:Like feminist literature Okay.
Speaker 2:And I feel the implications of it. But I don't do it because of any influence of the outside world. I do it because I was influenced to read some of the best books and I've come across this kind of way of thinking that I feel has direct consequences to being in a social sphere, like being in a place where other women reside, and to have a sense of something that you can empathize with in such a kind of binary system. You know, men, women. I'm just saying I feel like it's a good thing to have you know. It's like people go through bias training. Now you're aware, you're aware of some of the problems that this population is faced with and you can take a different approach when you hear someone say something offensive or when someone brings up some kind of stereotypical remark, and you can in a way coordinate how people talk to each other. I think that's very similar. I understood your whole point.
Speaker 1:I'm going to ask one question totally. I don't want you to answer it. Okay, because I want to give the floor to Harris. I'm going to ask this question, but I want you to think about it. Okay, is this, this whole thing? Is this a ploy to be a better person, to be a quote unquote good person? Don't answer that, go ahead.
Speaker 5:Okay, you're dodging the whole effing question here, bro.
Speaker 2:Me dodging. It would be like saying hey look at Eldar and Anatoly's faces.
Speaker 1:Now, did you think about my question?
Speaker 4:No, I'm not sure about that, but I don't often give Tom compliments. Right, okay, it's fair, okay, but what he said?
Speaker 2:Wait, wait, compliment.
Speaker 4:It was the first time I heard someone say something in so many words that meant absolutely nothing, so I commend him for doing that.
Speaker 2:I would like to know how your mind works. Explain to me how you can come to these absurd conclusions that are always the same, because you completely have your goddamn mind. Do you do that in order to establish some kind of fraudulent problem?
Speaker 1:No, dominance Is this your view it was a dominance, correct, correct?
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I would call that.
Speaker 2:I could actually call this something. I would have a name for it, because he does this all the time. He said all this stuff and then you lead the person into this, into your lair, into your pervert lair right. Be careful, Tully.
Speaker 5:This is where, where he sits, with. What do you call that? The?
Speaker 2:one of those. Uh flaps over his swing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know like he has a little uh tom on the serious note, on the serious, on the serious, something like that. Is this a fucking ploy of you being a good person? A ploy, uh like it's a trick or a con or something like that not a con or a trick, but, like you, raising awareness or learning about women's rights or you know what Two years ago you came to me with this shit about black people and you wanted me to invite my black friends so you could touch their hair, so you could kind of relate and understand what the hell is going on.
Speaker 4:You have to. Goddamn mind boy.
Speaker 2:What we're talking about really is for me to try to examine the truth, examine myself, me to try to examine the truth, examine myself, and it's, I think it's more profound, so that, why did I ever come to that? Um, I think it came to that point because I've just, in a way, been following my own breadcrumbs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's let's put it that way I wish they were yours, but the thing is, a lot of times you align with what actually the world is dictating whatever, whatever the fad is out there, which is right now the woke mind right when everybody's like I won't argue against that. All right, fine, so you're being affected by the masses, right? I wish it was a creative point.
Speaker 2:I will agree to some ignorance. Yeah, would you claim that's creativity? Absolutely not. I wouldn't say elder arts affected, being affected by the masses, but to in fact be in some way shaped. It frightens me to be shaped in a way by my environment.
Speaker 1:So then why are you continually doing it?
Speaker 2:Constantly doing it. The thing is, I maybe, perhaps don't have. So last time we talked about being blocked, right? So, jonathan, joe, joe, you were not here, but we talked about being blocked.
Speaker 1:All right, can we ask Joe, joe's from the city, right, and you probably experienced all the stuff, that's, all the different movements that's been going on the last three, four years about raising awareness on this woke shit. How do you feel about that yourself? Raising awareness, like you know, just the woke stuff, right, like the wildfire virus.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the BLM movement, right. What was the other movements? The women's rights movements, right. What else is now Israel-Palestine movement? That's gotten too far, dude. See, you think so, right, but like, well, a lot of the movements you know all these things, you see oh the presidents right Right now Biden versus Trump movement.
Speaker 5:All the shit that's Kamala Harris versus Trump. Now, okay, fine, come on.
Speaker 3:Kamala yeah, I mean, these newer generations definitely have different platforms.
Speaker 3:There's different ways of communicating now and there's sort of like a judgment, but almost like a peer pressure, like a groupthink type of mentality that pushes a lot of people in a bubble or category that if you aren't lining up in this line along with everyone else and you step aside because you feel, hey, you know, I have different opinions on this, but if you were to express that, you get outcasted, you kind of, you know, get pushed away, you kind of get categorized and you're not accepted.
Speaker 3:It's almost like you know, back in the day before cell phones were a part of school when you're in school before cell phones, there a part of school when you're in school before cell phones there were cliques, there were the jocks, the nerds, all those different things, the emo people, emo people. So you obviously wanted to be part of a certain group or stuff like that. So now it's very easy to determine, well, what side you're on and, uh, for the most part, people are gonna, you know, all flock to a certain side because they feel that this is the, this is the popular side, even if it's not something they think is actually personally agree with or affects them during the day-to-day life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like it's it that's a very good point.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like to me. It's like there's like, uh, um, two things happening. One, people flock to it because it's like a, it's a community thing. Yeah, right, okay. So now, if you have this stance, you are part of a community, wow or part of something that you weren't part of before.
Speaker 1:And I also think you stand for something.
Speaker 4:This is just speculation, but I think it's accurate. Yeah, if you're hardcore on whatever that thing is, anything you do or say else is accepted in that community.
Speaker 1:Oh no, that's crazy. That's deeper than I.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 1:That's also why, I'm gonna state here I would love to explore that yeah, but go ahead, harris, with this woke mind virus.
Speaker 5:My I have several family members who suffer from this shit where they'll go on social media. They'll go on all this shit and start rambling on and posting all this stupid shit.
Speaker 1:Is this why, before you joined us, you wanted to become a woman.
Speaker 5:Fuck you dude. That never fucking happened.
Speaker 1:you, son of a bitch, you asked us before working here you said can I wear a bra? And went to work no, bro.
Speaker 5:We made a bet and you tried to get me to wear a fucking sundress. You, son of a bitch when I lost All right. You let it go. I have to dye my fucking hair green. Bro, did he do it? He lost the bet his hair is green okay, you don't see it, but it's there. They want to do the fucking eyebrows too.
Speaker 2:But it said on the 30 oh, he's going for the eyebrows, he said he could not eat for three days straight.
Speaker 4:That's tough, and he didn't make it past the first day lunch oh, so half a day what did you eat on that day?
Speaker 2:I ended up eating a 15 inch sub that's gay fuck yeah, why you always got?
Speaker 5:it reflected as inches bro, that's what it's called a 15 inch fucking sub why you making your hands like that, like you're holding a big dick now.
Speaker 1:Where is that? Is that at?
Speaker 5:Quiznos subway, where the hell does subway make a fucking 15 inch.
Speaker 2:Jersey Mike's is called a giant. Oh, you went to Hoagie's no it's Jersey Mike's bro.
Speaker 5:It's a giant, but it's called a 15 inch.
Speaker 4:Out of curiosity how many smaller options were there below the 15 inch one? There were two, and you chose to get the largest one.
Speaker 5:Yeah, bro, I was fucking starving dude.
Speaker 3:So there's a foot long, which is 12 inches, yeah, and it's 15 inches. They had a 9 inch 15 inch Jersey.
Speaker 5:Fucking Mike's man.
Speaker 1:Did you loop it before you stuffed it down?
Speaker 3:We could probably get you a partnership with them. Subs for life, that's nasty.
Speaker 5:What do you mean?
Speaker 1:that's fucking nasty. You want me to open your mouth like that on camera?
Speaker 5:Bro, I already opened my mouth like that on camera, bro. I already opened my mouth like that on camera all the fucking time, bro. You can't wait, you have to dislocate your jaw to eat it don't fuck yourself man so you know Jared from Subway.
Speaker 3:He was, you know he was a celebrity. He was a child molester man yeah, he was bro his previous career before all that he lost a lot of weight. He was taken care of by Subway. He made a huge killing on it. So if you have an infatuation with the actual company itself, they love to hear that, because not only do you enjoy going to them, you could collab with a company like Jersey Mike.
Speaker 4:I think the infatuation is more with the size, not necessarily, oh my.
Speaker 3:God, what the?
Speaker 4:hell.
Speaker 2:Things today are much spicier than Jared's, that's for sure. Representing your home state what the fuck?
Speaker 4:Representing your home state right, it's Jersey, right it's all over Jersey. Yeah, but you're not from Jersey. Listen guys, bro. Bro, I grew up here. You're a fucking corn husker. Fuck you, bro.
Speaker 5:I've lived there for three years three years and you judge it against me. Sure, I sound a little country now, but you moved to nebraska. You moved to fucking north carolina. You're gonna sound a little country too. Totally put on your rock. Um, don't make me sing that shit, bro.
Speaker 1:You know I can't hold myself back man, you wanted a skit, right? You said Listen anything that goes. Alright, well, look, I think there's really good points that's being made. Joe said that, you know, because everything is now social media based. It's like everybody.
Speaker 5:Oh, fuck you. God, bro, come on Really. Let's see what you got. It was my first, I remember waiting for you, boss. Let's see what you got. Jenny Clayton was my first crush. Even one of us had a clue. El Chayenne was my first truck, A rusted bus. We had a beat up. When she jumped in it felt brand new.
Speaker 1:I can't fucking move myself back.
Speaker 3:That's fashion, that's fashion.
Speaker 1:You can't control yourself.
Speaker 3:That's what we're looking for. You need stuff that's gonna make Pull you out of yourself and be your true self. That's it. So you like Kid Rock.
Speaker 1:Listen At the end of the day okay, joe, you joe joe, not john joe joe. Um, you didn't ask why the name was the name of the podcast. No, of harris's movement. Harris is in good hands oh, okay, do you? Realize that he's in good hands I mean, this is his team.
Speaker 5:Yes, yeah, I've known Eldar probably since I was 13 years old. I know all these guys.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, what do you mean by that?
Speaker 4:Don't say it like that, man. Before Eldar opened his company right, put your hands down. Fuck you man. That just makes it weird Go fuck yourself.
Speaker 5:But before I knew Eldar, eldar here was a social worker. Okay, eldar here was a social worker. He ran this program called Youth Partnership. Whoa what Youth Partnership. It's a federal program. It basically gives teenagers a safe place to hang out, get some food, be around a safe place. We had some good times.
Speaker 4:Was that the first time you took down a 15-incher? Fuck you, bro. Listen this.
Speaker 1:That the first time you took down a 15-incher. Fuck you, bro. Listen, this is the weirdest thing you ever said. What do you mean? We just had food.
Speaker 5:No, we volunteered. We did good things in the community service, but it gave us a safe place to go yeah, safe.
Speaker 1:You have to explain it. You know, we did things around town. We helped elderly people.
Speaker 5:We cleaned up parks, Eldar basically, I guess you could say kept me out of fucking juvie jail, all that shit. I've suffered from mental health my entire life and if I probably wasn't on the right meds and didn't have good people around me, you would be a Kamala Harris supporter. No, I'd probably be in prison right now. I know I'd probably be in prison right now. I'd probably be in prison right now, okay good, he would be a Kamala.
Speaker 1:Would you dress up as Kamala on Halloween? Fuck that, bro, for the right amount.
Speaker 3:Trump for life man hey, I'm cutting that out no, there's a lot of people out there that would support him for that. I'm just saying man, you can't cut off your so, so, so, so, so you know. Don't, don't cut off who you truly are. Uh, any any beliefs you have, any support you have, let that bleed through. Don't let anyone control you.
Speaker 5:That's what I used to do, because when don't last time, I wasn't gonna vote for trump, yeah, I didn't vote at all. Yeah, because I wasn't registered at the time. Again, you're still not registered. I am actually. But the reason right. When Trump was in no one fucked with America, people stayed in their place. She's the first President to meet up with King John. Oh, what the hell.
Speaker 5:That's the fat guy from North Korea, bro, the craziest son of a bitch out there. Wait, that makes him what. That makes him have balls, right. He kept people in line. No one messed with our country. And then, immediately after he left, people were threatening oh you're doing this right, we're going to come and get you. You better stay in your place. We need Trump back in office because guess what? He'll get this country back to where it needs to be Gun to your head. Right now, we're on the brink of World War III with three different fucking countries Gun to your head.
Speaker 4:What about it? Trump is running versus Kid Rock. Who are you voting for, damn.
Speaker 5:Uh-huh, they're both patriots.
Speaker 4:Man, we know who you're voting for who Come on Long hair. We know who you're voting for. Who come on long hair? Don't care, got him bro don't throw me in that fine, fine, fine.
Speaker 5:Listen Harris or President that's another one of my nicknames President, el Presidente alright, so yeah.
Speaker 1:So I think we we have a pretty good point here, and I definitely want to explore what Toli said, which is pretty crazy, regarding social media influence. And then when you part of a pact, you almost can be anything and do anything without having to be called Out. That is crazy. That is absolutely crazy, because he's almost saying that people get passes. What do you mean by that? The totally expand on that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I feel like if you're in one of those things, like if you're showing support towards it and like you're really about it you could do or say anything else and it's almost like normalized I want to say something.
Speaker 1:Do you understand what he just said.
Speaker 5:I understand what he just said. Can you explain to me what he said? Hold up, because I have something on my mind real quick. Okay, all right, we talked about all these different groups. Right, you have the groups about what's going on in israel and fucking palestine. The one thing I don't like about it that people are doing yeah okay, me being jewish myself they're judging every fucking jew for what's going on over there.
Speaker 1:Can you do me a favor Without saying anything right now, without any reactions? Can you turn around, roll up your sleeve and show Joe your arm Without saying anything.
Speaker 5:Now, fuck you Without saying anything, without saying anything.
Speaker 4:Whoa whoa, whoa, I'm muting him. Hold on one second.
Speaker 1:I'm muting you, just one second. I'm muting you. You just said that you, being Jewish yourself, can you do me a favor and show Joe?
Speaker 4:we're not asking for explanation.
Speaker 2:I love the foley. I love the sound that came through the leaning in and the keys and the couch.
Speaker 1:That's a Christian cross.
Speaker 5:I'm going to make a statement here. Okay, my biological father was Christian. My mom is Jewish. Technically, I'm Jewish.
Speaker 4:What was your other father?
Speaker 5:My dad that raised me who I consider my real dad. He's true. What was your other father my, my dad that raised me, my real, who I consider my real dad? Yeah, he's Jewish, why? Say I was pressured into this why, no, bye my father's family.
Speaker 4:We moved there because just for the record, what state did you get that tattoo in?
Speaker 5:North Carolina. I was pressured into it by my father's family. I'm not going to name names, I'm just going to put it out there. I was pressured into it and I got a fucking cross on there.
Speaker 4:I was pressured into it. Before you explain yourself, why are you wearing painter's pants today?
Speaker 5:They're not painters, they're fucking jeans. What's your fucking deal, man?
Speaker 4:I'm just saying Did you have a job early in the morning?
Speaker 5:Yeah, I had a job. I was fucking your mom oh.
Speaker 4:No, were you giving her that sweet dick I?
Speaker 5:was bro. She fucking loved it. Keep the families together, bro. Yeah, good, so, Uh, so what? I was finishing right. So finish something that you were saying. I was pressured into it right over there. Uh, my mom thought it would be a good idea. It was cheaper to live down there. We were struggling to pay the rent Wait.
Speaker 4:So your mom thought it was a good idea. And just for the record, what religion is your mom?
Speaker 5:She's Jewish, she thought it was a good idea to go to North Carolina. What does it matter?
Speaker 2:What religion.
Speaker 4:What does it matter? What religion is? I'm just asking. Moving down there, bro.
Speaker 5:We were around the Charlotte area. Charlotte area right, it's very neutral. Right, you have every ethnicity, you have every religion. It's not a big deal.
Speaker 4:I just wanted Joe to be aware of what was going on. You know because you know.
Speaker 1:So we're fluid Joe.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we're fluid.
Speaker 1:Today he's Jewish Tomorrow, he's Jewish tomorrow he's Christian.
Speaker 5:Today he's a man, tomorrow he's a woman. What I've noticed when I was down there the first day of school in North Carolina, I sat down next to this guy in his three class and he's rambling on about, oh Hitler, this Hitler, that he should come back. And you know, I wanted to really what the hell pop that motherfucker in the face. I wanted to punch him so bad, but instead you sat on his lap. Fuck you bro. No, you know, I kind of fucking ignored it because I felt, I guess you could say unsafe in that area, right, especially where I was. I didn't know who was a threat. I guess you could say if they knew.
Speaker 1:I was jewish, so it's another reason I got across on my own, so you punked out, got it moving on um is this there's a lot of hate into this fucking world.
Speaker 4:Is this what's happening to tom? Pretty much oh fuck you, bro.
Speaker 5:Don't compare me to fucking.
Speaker 1:No, no no, no, no. What I'm saying is that totally made a crazy accusation about the people that are a part of these little movements, fads and stuff like that. Like I said, any movement that has kind of two division lines, right, black, white, women, men, cops, no cops, trump, biden, what other things that are out there, israel, palestine, all these little things right as long as you're part of the movement, you're kind of like oh, whoever's shouting the loudest?
Speaker 5:you almost become like this person who's?
Speaker 1:yeah, that stuff, right, you almost become like this person, like, yeah, I'm also good, I'm also good, I'm for the movement, right, yeah, I, I understand, I empathize with them or sympathize with them, whatever it is virtual signaling, huh it's called virtual signaling.
Speaker 3:this is this is a word virtual signaling. Is this a word Virtual signaling?
Speaker 1:Virtual signaling. Virtual signaling You're trying to signal that you're virtuous, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Virtuous yeah yeah, yeah, that you're good. Almost right, oh right, right. And that almost creates this little illusion that you're not immune to some of the things. Yeah, like you can be as weird as you want, as long as you're supporting the cause, because the cause is bigger than you.
Speaker 4:And everybody within that cause is accepting of everything else, as long as you're about that cause, oh my god.
Speaker 5:Didn't we? Like? When I was growing up, I felt like the world right. Finally, everyone was being accepted. Right, when I was growing up, you didn't hear about these people getting killed or all this shit going on. Yeah, when I was in school, right, everyone was together. There was no problems. But I guess we did live in a pretty good fucking neighborhood, yeah, but you knew nicole, I didn't know nicole back then, bro, she ran shit.
Speaker 5:She ran shit in nebraska. I grew up in Fairlawn until senior year, bro, okay, but the whole point right. I guess I was sheltered a bit. But even on the news, bro, you didn't hear about all these fucking protests and this fucking shit.
Speaker 1:No, it's because maybe we didn't pay attention as much, because we were younger or whatever, we didn't care about it. And social media also had a very highlighting effect on all these little things. Right, but do you agree with what is being said here? What the totally serious that? The fact that just because you're part of the cause now, you can almost hide in the shadows of your own stupidity and all the little things that you do?
Speaker 5:I think people just want to be a part of something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they want to fight something. He's explaining why Because then all your sins wash away away. Is this what's happening with Tom, our friend Tom? What's happening? You want to be part of a movement that makes you quote, unquote good, so you can be then accepted for all the weird shit that you actually do and nobody's going to call you out on it.
Speaker 5:That's why it's so difficult to come here. What's so funny? What's wrong with this fucking guy? Yes, and no Elder.
Speaker 2:I don't know about this woke movement. I don't want to be a part of that.
Speaker 5:You're already a part of it, bro?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you just said that you are influenced by the masses, no, no by teachers, people who introduce you to very fine literature. And in a way I think I've been on this journey where I discovered these amazing things unknown to me before, and I follow through, which is a sort of a self-improvement to the person who I was before, who I was kind of you know, not not literally, not literary, I don't think that's the word but you know I was not interested in intellectual life at an earlier time in my life.
Speaker 2:And for me this is to bridge this gap to is to basically look at my psyche, you know, like this, to kind of uh, to to sort of look at the before and the after picture of myself is sort of the, the, the big problem I have another question.
Speaker 1:that just came about, okay.
Speaker 5:I just want to stay. Hold on, You're out of your goddamn fucking mind bro.
Speaker 2:Harris, listen, you might learn something.
Speaker 1:Harris, let me ask this question do you guys think that the reason why this is happening in the first place also is, in a way, of trying to explain your own condition or your own suffering as well? Explain it or to realize, like, what's actually happening to you, because maybe you're not happy about something, maybe something's not actualizing for you that you want to actualize, so therefore you kind of align yourself amongst these things.
Speaker 1:So you're trying to almost say that I'm not good enough and somebody else has to teach me about these things so I can line up with good so it's like you want to be accepted into a community.
Speaker 4:I think it's like people, worship, that will buy your BS. Well did I?
Speaker 3:interject. I mean, have you ever investigated or researched on cults? Oh shit.
Speaker 2:No, it's just not my area of interest who were really influential, has the positive effect of gaining knowledge as an individual and having that sort of be part of your new you know, new reality. I guess, what else is it when you read a great book, right, and you're influenced by this book and sort of maybe some of the ideas they stick with you I mean, I've always found that to be a beneficial thing and sort of maybe some of the ideas they stick with you.
Speaker 3:I mean, I've always found that to be a beneficial thing. What I find interesting, and what brings people towards cults, is because you see the average person. You can see the most vulnerable person. You can see that even the most smart, successful people can fall into an understanding or a belief that they're being. They're upgrading their, their mental awareness, their intelligence. I think their community they're, they're all in agreeance with each other.
Speaker 3:You could, you could literally be taken over by someone who could, in a way, swindle and manipulate your way of thinking into very very easily to, to where all I, all, I, all, I gathered from it was if you could stop a person like yourself and say, if you were in a cult and we knew you were in a cult, but you didn't, you didn't realize you were in one If we could get you to admit I may be in a cult and we knew you were in a cult, but you didn't realize you were in one If we could get you to admit I may be in a cult.
Speaker 3:I understand what you're saying. I'm looking at, I'll look at it from the outside in. I'll consider I'm being manipulated, reanalyze, reevaluate the steps you're taking, the route and the life you're living, and say it all felt good, I felt like everything was right. But if people are making comments, this is the prime opportunity to step back, listen to what other people are noticing and saying and then re-question, look in the mirror, re-question your thoughts and your mind, your ways, the steps, the journey you're taking, because you could be stuck in another parallel universe along with everyone else that's living. But you're stuck in, almost like in a small cult way of thinking, and you can't unthink or get out of it because it's taking over, it's getting stronger.
Speaker 1:He just potentially explained the next 20 years of your life.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I have two comments on that. One I think people that before they get into it, I think one of the big reasons that they get into it is because they see an illusion of what other people have that they currently don't and they think they have that. So if they're searching, for example, for friendship or happiness, or blissfulness. That's what I said. The cult or that group gives the illusion that this is what they have.
Speaker 4:They have and this is what they experience, and you, as the outsider, you want that. And then, when you're the, the um. Second comment is that, um, I think when you're in it, what actually happens is that, um, I think it's no coincidence. Everything that happens happens in a group setting, and what happens is that there's things that are being done and said and everybody, just if you're new, you act like the people that have been in it for a while, and it's a chain reaction where you just act how others are acting.
Speaker 1:You just line up with it. So, for example like you have to model it.
Speaker 4:Let's just say that, like Trump says something right. The people that have been in it for the longest, they're the first ones to say yeah. And the people on the chain reaction they just look at how others are acting and do the same thing until they're trained enough to do that themselves.
Speaker 3:There's a very viral clip that I could share that explains that exact scenario so you can look it up if you want. But there's a, there's a festival where this one guy who's very silly looking, he dances silly, he's just enjoying the music. They're on a big grassy field and, from afar, everyone's sitting, no one's up dancing, no one's enjoying themselves except this one guy, and it takes one individual to run up and wanting to join the participation, the fun, and then they start feeding off of each other, the two of them, and then the rest of the crowd. The rest of the crowd just starts to spread that message, saying go join, go join. And then, before you know it, the one guy that people were filming and laughing at and not wanting to join because he was like the weird it the one guy that people were filming and laughing at and not wanting to join because he was the weirdo, the outcast.
Speaker 3:Now, if you're not joining this bubble, you're the weirdo. Everyone thinks it's okay to go up there and have fun and you see that huge crowd just develop like that in a matter of a minute.
Speaker 1:Do you realize you're part of that crowd, you idiot. I'm not part of that fucking crowd.
Speaker 5:I've never fucking changed man, I've remained the fucking same.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you're the one who's chanting Trump.
Speaker 5:Dude, I'm picking a fucking candidate to vote for. Dude, I'm picking a fucking candidate to vote for what?
Speaker 4:the fuck are you saying the most?
Speaker 1:competent candidate in my fucking mind, man. A fucking candidate to vote for? What the fuck are you saying? The most competent candidate in my fucking mind, man. What's the matter with you?
Speaker 4:man yeah, but you haven't looked up anything about the other candidate or done your fucking research.
Speaker 5:What has she done as vice president, bro? What does she fucking know? Do you know?
Speaker 1:that there's other candidates available besides Kamala and fucking Trump I got news for you those candidates are not going to win.
Speaker 4:Wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 5:I'm not voting for RFK.
Speaker 1:Are you fucking a frontrunner?
Speaker 4:Oh my God, I'm not voting for RFK.
Speaker 1:Are you a frontrunner?
Speaker 5:Let me ask you a fucking question. No, no, no, wait, wait, I'm going to ask you one question here.
Speaker 1:Okay, do you vote just to vote for somebody to win, or do you vote just to vote for somebody to win, or?
Speaker 5:do you vote based on what you actually-? I'm voting for Trump, right? We're going to make America great again.
Speaker 3:Here we go. So RFK could be this guy on the hill that I was explaining. That went viral and that got the crowd coming to him, because all it took was someone to stray away outside of their bubble. It's no longer a Democrat, Republican, Trump and Harris. There is someone that could potentially win. He has the most traction that any independent has ever had.
Speaker 5:I just don't like him. I don't like him because I believe I've watched videos of him and I believe he's just living off his dad, his brother.
Speaker 2:That's what they want you to hear.
Speaker 3:That's not very different from Trump, is it? That's what the media is feeding you Was his dad a fucking politician.
Speaker 2:His dad gave him a million dollars and he just spun that million dollars and made a billion dollars, wouldn't that?
Speaker 5:be a great story for anybody. Can you repeat that he made a fucking billion dollars? Is that what you just said?
Speaker 2:I'm saying his dad gave him a million dollar loan.
Speaker 5:And he made it into a billing. What do you mean? A loan? He paid it back.
Speaker 1:He paid it back.
Speaker 2:I actually have no fucking clue. Don't fucking call it a loan, hey Tom.
Speaker 5:Is that million dollars? That's what he said.
Speaker 1:Back when he gave it to him in like 1980s or whatever, you know how much it was worth A lot. 10 million today A lot.
Speaker 5:A he asked you a question. Is that not a big accomplishment to you, Harris? He called it a small loan too.
Speaker 2:Is that not a big accomplishment? No, it's not an accomplishment. What do you mean?
Speaker 4:Turn a million dollars into a fucking million dollars. Are you an idiot?
Speaker 3:He's trying to say he's not self-made.
Speaker 1:Listen to me, if my dad is a fucking, huge fucking brand already in the city With every connection, with every connection available to me, to me, I'm his son. My cosign name is Trump. I'm Trump, bro. Everybody's fucking with me because I'm already Trump. And I got $10 million in my fucking pocket, what do?
Speaker 4:you think is going to happen? How do you think LeBron James' son got drafted?
Speaker 5:Oh shit, let's not bring up that.
Speaker 1:Why did LeBron James' son get drafted? Let me claim something here, can you stop? Jerking off the fucking mic, fuck you. Let me claim something here.
Speaker 4:Listen, I'm complicit here when I was young, I also wanted to study real estate, you be quiet.
Speaker 5:Shut up bro, you got your goddamn mind. Know your place, bro. You're a guest. I was hoping for the fuck you buddy. You'll get that later. I promise you that you keep it up. Can I just say a word? You have 30 seconds. We're going to tape you up and we're going to throw you in the fucking closet.
Speaker 2:Actually, I'm going to start with the bathroom you guys want to throw me in the bathroom first.
Speaker 5:Damn Tom, you didn't want like Eldar. Just blow that bitch up and we'll throw him right in there.
Speaker 4:Rapper forgiving.
Speaker 2:Listen, I was confessing something.
Speaker 5:Just quick confession You're going to hold that confession in for a little bit.
Speaker 5:All right, no problem. Okay. So, like I was saying, Stop jerking the mic, Fuck you, bro, but listen, all right. The reason I like Trump right is because he doesn't give a fuck. He doesn't back down to anyone. All right, Right, we don't need to make deals with these other presidents and shit. All right, the reason they don't fuck with him? They didn't fuck with him because they were afraid to. Ok. Now they think of America as a fucking joke right now. All right, we're on the brink of fucking World War three with three different fucking countries. Trump gets back in office. I watched a video where Putin was asked you know what do you think about Trump talking about? He's going to end the war in Ukraine. He watched what he fucking said about fucking Trump. Because, guess what? He's a fucking afraid of Trump because if Trump gets back in office, Trump will not hesitate to fucking go after these people.
Speaker 4:They fuck with us is that because he has orange hair? Fuck you. I'm just saying after these people, they fuck with us.
Speaker 5:Is that because he has orange hair? Fuck you, bro, Harris.
Speaker 1:you know how he usually gives a speech to Tom about saying absolutely nothing.
Speaker 5:Bro, I just proved why I'm for Trump. It's because Trump is strong.
Speaker 2:Trump's got fucking balls Harris if you're found guilty of this, I can help you with that.
Speaker 1:I'll be your lawyer. Right now you're in the same camp as Tommy. You said absolutely nothing.
Speaker 5:Bro was tommy.
Speaker 2:You said absolutely like uh, bro, don't make me pull up that bag daddy fucking video.
Speaker 5:I fucking love that shit when they compared obama announcing osama's death.
Speaker 1:Yes, when trump announced bag daddy reenacted right now he's dead as a fucking dog he's dead as a dog.
Speaker 5:They blew the door up. I fucking love that shit yeah, I wish I could take credit, but I couldn't. But he's dead. He's dead as a dog. He was a dirtbag. He died like a dirtbag.
Speaker 2:But Harris question when were you on 9-11?, Do you remember?
Speaker 5:It wasn't his daddy's dick. No, it wasn't, bro.
Speaker 1:You were born already.
Speaker 2:Yeah bro, I was born in 1998, bro. Okay, so you were three. Yeah so you were what you were sucking on a sugar tit. Fuck you, bro. Harris, Harris, Harris.
Speaker 4:I was in my seventh grade science class.
Speaker 2:And when Obama came out and he said we killed Osama Bin Laden, that was a highlight of my life. You don't get it.
Speaker 5:I might have been a baby, but 9-11 changed our fucking lives. That shit was powerful. 9-11 changed our fucking lives as well. I'm going to state this, this I lived in Fairlawn, new Jersey. We were 23 miles from New York City. We grew up in 7th grade we watched all the fucking videos of what happened over there because we're so close. We learned about it. We took a field trip to the 9-11 museum. They were building the Freedom Tower and all that shit Building the thing we learned about that.
Speaker 2:I have several, but they didn't tell you about that Pakistani guy.
Speaker 5:Bro, would you shut up? I'm sorry. I have several, several friends that enlisted because of that fucking trip, because of that shit.
Speaker 5:They fought trying to get this son of a bitch, trying to get all these son of a bitches, to make sure this never fucking happens again. Wait. So then? How did you end up milking bulls after? Oh, fuck you, bro. I tried to enlist because of my mental health, bro, I wanted to fucking fight, I wanted to go after. I wanted to make sure nothing like this fucking happened to our country again. Unfortunately, I was denied. Unfortunately, unfortunately what do you mean?
Speaker 1:fortunately, I said unfortunately are you stupid. You have a fucking greater cause here. What's the matter with you?
Speaker 5:you would have fucking been just dead you would have been the first person you would have died 100%. I have several friends that have done four combat deployments and they're still fucking alive none of them have two left feet.
Speaker 3:You can't go viral if you're dead.
Speaker 1:Harris Harris, you're not alone now you have the ability to influence a lot of people in a good way, I get that what do you mean you just go on a black LRT shirt?
Speaker 3:once you're dead and then you're forgotten. Yeah, we need you alive. Yeah, viral Nation, thank you, looking to represent. Thank you, harris.
Speaker 2:I wish we could pull up the Tom Serves. Life episode serves life, episode right now.
Speaker 4:So we can just listen to a quick clip of it Tom serves life Damn.
Speaker 5:Tom, you're going to fucking prison for life.
Speaker 2:I had a 30 minute chat.
Speaker 1:I'll add some money to your commissary Guys, something tells me that Harris and Tom actually cut from the same cloth.
Speaker 5:Yo fuck you, bro. Don't compare me to this guy.
Speaker 1:Oh you heard that. I whispered that to. I came here today as a writer.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 5:God, we're talking about his book again bro how much of the same cloth, perhaps what writer?
Speaker 2:But look, I am alluding to the fact that I did sit at the podcast and talk to Eldar. We had a private conversation Well, not a private conversation.
Speaker 5:Are you going to show us your book?
Speaker 2:It's a 30-minute podcast episode called Tom Serves Life and I came to ask for advice about going to the National Guard.
Speaker 1:I thought it was a great idea. I think now it's called.
Speaker 2:Tom Declines $20,000. Oh, the Weekend Soldier. Oh, yes, yes, yes, that's right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you declined the $20,000.
Speaker 2:Well, it's a win-win at the end, because I am writing a book I have chosen a path in life.
Speaker 5:Oh, you've chosen a path. Yeah, are you?
Speaker 2:no, but that's what I was thinking. I came to ask for advice.
Speaker 3:I'm interested. Are you also a talent? Are you interested in being representation, or I'm just trying to get a feel of just for the record I think about going viral
Speaker 1:sometimes it could be imaginary, or it could be real have you guys ever had.
Speaker 4:Wait, wait. Actually do you guys have experience with clients that have imaginary talent?
Speaker 3:So I'll tell you the most successful show on television, seinfeld, which is a show about nothing. So, essentially, if it's a book or it's not a book, or it's the idea of a book. That isn't a book, that's talent.
Speaker 1:I'd like to speak to you in private about Tom is Art if you're willing.
Speaker 3:this is why I'm here. It's growing on me.
Speaker 2:Okay, I must say yeah, I must say it is turning into a kind of gem.
Speaker 3:If I could walk away with two possible, you know, options to be an agent for. I would, I would love, I would love to you have that capacity you have that yeah, we have a huge team.
Speaker 2:Disclosure I smoked crack in high school.
Speaker 5:Oh, here we go. Why would you fucking say that, bro you?
Speaker 3:just gotta be yourself yeah you have to be yourself.
Speaker 2:That's what I was up to in high school. In those communities. I figured you know senior year. You're at the tail end.
Speaker 1:Totally To be fair in our community. That's perfectly fine too. You know that, and I think that we do a much better job of acceptance than those communities.
Speaker 4:Actually, it's different, it's completely different.
Speaker 5:Okay, I don't spew about all the shit I do, sorry sorry, I didn't realize we were talking about woke virus.
Speaker 2:You guys don't have to compete with each other, don't?
Speaker 3:compete Because it could be your own individual ventures.
Speaker 1:Tom's gift. Joe is one thing. It's aging If it puts your mind into a blender. I can explain it in private.
Speaker 2:It already sounds like a very good strawberry milkshake to me.
Speaker 1:We can definitely talk about that. There's a lot of talent here.
Speaker 3:This could be a team Dennis Rock's podcast team where you're represented that way, where the podcast is something, or it could be on an individual basis, it could be totally.
Speaker 2:By the way, is the new Dennis? Is it a pile of rocks? We just say Dennis strawberry.
Speaker 1:I'm glad that you mentioned that, because there's a connection between Dennis rocks and now that Harris is tumbling rocks Wow.
Speaker 4:Fuck you bro.
Speaker 2:That's mind-blowing. Now that I see that the connection, it's unbelievable and the rocks are on his head. Thank you very much.
Speaker 4:That'd be fucking considerate.
Speaker 2:That is putting my mind through a blender for sure. Can you believe that? And the blender?
Speaker 1:And you actually in the last episode mentioned that you like collecting rocks. And then I was collecting rocks at that same time in Greece, and now we're back and now Harris is going to be. He actually put some price tags on some of the rocks and some of the rocks are going to go for $30,000,.
Speaker 5:Luck charms, man, if they survive. The tumbling man, the tumbling yeah.
Speaker 4:Especially once they get the lizard, yeah, yes.
Speaker 5:It's going to be certified with the lizard lick.
Speaker 1:Yes. So, joe, you know, as you know, the lizard is like the big thing. So the rocks are going to be sold and if the you know the certificate, thanks for sharing. Yeah, the certificate will be actually personally will number one inspect every single rock for imperfections. He'll make sure that all the rocks are perfect before they go out into the market and then each individual that buys the rock will get a personal video that is not shared anywhere in the social media, right, it's only going to be shared with them as a certificate and it's going to Authenticity, yeah, of him actually taking the rock and licking it on.
Speaker 1:It's only going to be shared with them as a certificate, and it's going to. So it's a figure of authenticity, authenticity, yeah, of him actually taking the rock and licking it on camera.
Speaker 4:I just want to say Not licking it. I was pressured into this man.
Speaker 5:I was pressured into this man.
Speaker 3:Listen. People trade Pokemon cards and get them graded. People sell NFTs right.
Speaker 1:And those are not even real, not even real, they're not even real. But this is going to be actual, real things. And it's going to be certified by Harris yeah, and the thing is we have to the lizard right now is it's an organic thing that comes out out of nowhere. I have to find a way to be able to implant the rock real quick to get the real lizard?
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, it can't be a thing where you do it intentionally. It has to be where you're holding a rock. Yes, you know what I'm talking about yeah, I know what you're talking about the reason, the lizard happens. I'd be drinking something right and I go to drink it, show it first, just so we're all aware.
Speaker 5:I do like a turtle down and then a lizard yeah, show, yeah. And a turtle down and then a lizard, yeah, sure, and then I lick it bro. And they're obsessed with it.
Speaker 4:As a lizard, it's a stamp. Yeah, it's a stamp, it's a stamp that I really like.
Speaker 1:It's a stamp of approval.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so when a lizard in the actual, in the world, in nature, they stick their tongue out. They're investigating the environment, they're getting signals. They're investigating the environment, they're getting signals, they're reading.
Speaker 1:It's like an antenna or a sensor. You know what I'm saying. I found myself that I like it so much that sometimes, when I start eating the food or drinking something, I have an internal lizard too. It's not coming out yet.
Speaker 5:No, eldar insists it just runs in my family, because you've pointed out that my brother does it.
Speaker 1:I've seen your brother do it as well.
Speaker 5:But John also, if he's writing something, he'll go.
Speaker 4:We got to be careful that he doesn't try to counterfeit it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, we can't have John counterfeiting our lizard.
Speaker 5:We'll have to get him to sign an NDA.
Speaker 1:Is.
Speaker 3:John on this podcast as well, no no, no, john's his brother. There's another, john, his friend, who's not here today, but he's also.
Speaker 5:He's a character on the podcast. Yes, he's a character. He's a very interesting character, that's for sure.
Speaker 3:Is he looking for representation?
Speaker 5:too. I don't know about that, because he's more like one foot in, one foot out. John, if you're listening to this, you're an asshole. What's his nickname? His nickname, john, if you're listening to this you're an asshole. What's his nickname? His nickname Crispy Crispy. If you're listening to this, bro.
Speaker 3:Why Crispy?
Speaker 5:His last name's Crespo. He's got a little bit of an attitude problem right. He's one foot in, one foot out. He's not being serious right now and he smells bad. Oh my god, totally. He's gonna be listening to this, bro. It's true, he's stinking. Damn Tom, and you were his favorite person, dude, so look if the walk mind virus is actually a virus.
Speaker 1:Tom, we obviously, as your friends, we're concerned about your well-being.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And we hope that you don't get infected by it.
Speaker 2:The one virus that I have is addiction.
Speaker 1:I guess, yeah, addictions, that's the one virus we can definitely talk about that, but you know the guys are clearly concerned about and so it's possible, it's possible that in some way that I I got addicted to uh people pleasing oh, can we go there?
Speaker 2:okay with it you know, because I think that's that you almost feel like, uh, people, please, today, today, for instance, yeah, just today my parents asked me to go out to the, to the diner, and, um, I kind of stood there. I was like, you know, one of my kind of stupors like, um, uh, and I knew that I was going out to to, to read, you know, I knew that I didn't really have much of a plan and I was like no, and then I kind of talked myself into changing my mind. Why? And I realized why Guilt you being a bad son? I realized that there's something meaningful here to it. But the idea is very much based on the fact that I'm trying to be something greater.
Speaker 2:You know, I guess I'm trying to do something that will in some way have an impact on the world, and I'm thinking about what others think of me.
Speaker 4:It's not people pleasing. It's not an addiction to people pleasing. It's an addiction to people pleasing. It's an addiction to people accepting People accept Woke mind virus man. He wants to be accepted it is Okay.
Speaker 2:I'll agree it's a little abstract, but I went to this principle that I've kind of thought about lately, which is kind of be close to my family and be I have gratitude. Actually, my family and be have gratitude actually is very much based on this idea that to be grateful is also somewhat to be considerate and to be um, you know, it's okay to say no to certain things, you know, but how do you choose and how do you say okay, it's time for me to be spontaneous, or it's okay, it's time for me to uh kind of lock off any kind of distraction? How do you decide when you're free and when you're not? How do you? So? I mean, it's weird. Being a creative, I'll be honest that.
Speaker 5:I will say oh God, here we go again with this creative shit.
Speaker 2:There are times I've realized that I cannot write and there are times that I've realized that I cannot read, and accepting that has actually been very, very liberating, very liberating, because now I'm not forcing myself to be so strict with a kind of regime. Now accept that I won't be putting my more effort than I really need to be putting into something, when you know, like I was just saying to Toli earlier, I was saying to you I want to write something very fine and that I've realized might take longer than I originally thought. I want to write a good book, and I told you also recently that I'm doing more research now that I have something very rough, and to me it's a sign that I'm evolving as a creative, and what it requires is actually, I mean, that's pretty, I've said everything. But, yeah, how do you allow yourself and at what point?
Speaker 2:So sometimes I think to myself okay, on the weekends I can relax, on the weekends I should just step away from work. But, like I said, I'm here today, right, and say I don't come around much and all that stuff, but something compelled me to come today and I think that it's not always certain how things are going to turn out, no matter what you do. And so you know, I changed my mind today and I realized that life is about these kinds of forks in the road where you can make a choice and your choice is made. Once it's made, it's made, you know.
Speaker 1:I commend you for that, Tom. At what point?
Speaker 2:are you going to say yes, you know, to the opportunity that comes to you, and at what point are you going to say, eh, you know what, and let that opportunity go forever.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I commend you for that.
Speaker 4:Before we move anywhere, yeah, Like before we progress past this. I think this is appropriate.
Speaker 2:And Mr who wait? What is this? I knew it. Insane got to get god damn fucking okay, I understand where we're going here, lewis.
Speaker 5:I'm glad you do. Are we going to have another walkout time? I accept this and I think this needs to happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm glad you do. Are we going to have another walkout? Tom, I accept this and I think this needs to happen. Clear, we're going to get hit with the digital Millennium. Max bullshit, hold up hold up.
Speaker 5:Before we go any further, before he walks out, I want to make it clear.
Speaker 2:Can you give?
Speaker 5:him a fuck you for me, Joe, you weren't here, right? Yeah, sorry, Joe, you weren't here Last time. Tommy was on the show 15 minutes in. He claims it's 30. Tom got all pissed off and he walked off.
Speaker 2:I was not pissed.
Speaker 5:Tom totally back me up here. He was pissed.
Speaker 2:This is what I call protecting your recovery Like a new moon rising Fingers.
Speaker 5:Seriously, come on To this great unknown. I don't want no one to cry, but tell them if I don't survive, it was born free, born free, born free, born free, born free. And with the changing of Wind, I'm facing, chasing, trying To find the time.
Speaker 3:Thank you, fellas. So, Tom, why did you walk off on?
Speaker 2:the last show. You know what I have not really gone into. You know how I'm really perceived by these guys. I just kind of go based on you know what, what I hear. I go based on kind of what I've experienced Can I get some strawberries? But I think that my approach to the kinds of you know, kind of highly critical thinking or whatever, whatever comments, right, critical kind of you know it was a kind of judgment, but you know poking fun and teasing and things like that I think that my approach to my response to that has been an appropriate one and I think it's been effective the way I've approached responding to you know just.
Speaker 2:Okay, there are ways that these guys sometimes say things. You know that. You know they pretty much drive an argument directly at what I love to do. Drive an argument directly at what I love to do, and I don't think anybody would want someone standing over them and saying you know, your job is meaningless.
Speaker 5:We got the point and I just want to state something here. Okay, tom, the whole point of this podcast, right, the whole point of this thing, right, is you get called out, everyone gets called out, right, but you can't take it to so serious.
Speaker 1:you have to kind of laugh at yourself harris, I agree with you 100, but I'm I'm gonna try to go a little bit deeper one step further, as dennis will say um and explain to you why? Why people take it serious?
Speaker 4:and why it's difficult to do that yes, it is.
Speaker 1:You have to admit when you're wrong. Dude harris, I agree with you. I agree with your advice and your reflection on it, but I'm going to try to explain to you why this actually happens, this phenomenon.
Speaker 5:Go. Would you like some strawberries? I had strawberries, thank you.
Speaker 1:When you develop right, when you take yourself seriously and you develop attachment to certain things that are so-called you or yours, right, as soon as those things are being out in the open and people disagree with you on those things, they're yours. They're being attacked, okay, so you naturally have to defend yourself. Why? Because you have a horse in the race and I think a lot of suffering in general people's psychology, a lot of suffering comes from this phenomenon and for a lot of people it's hard to grasp or hard to let go, but it is the truth.
Speaker 5:I'm not going to lie. Did you understand what I just said? I do, but if you remember, when I was younger, when I was a kid, I took everything too fucking seriously. Yeah, sure, I grew up, I learned how to laugh at myself, yeah, and I learned how to laugh at myself, yeah, and I learned how to make some fun of myself as well. Dude, you just kind of got to brush it off, tom, you can't take anything too seriously.
Speaker 1:That's me walking out Again. I think that is a premature advice, I think. I actually think that what you just said and your insight is actually a gift that was given to you based on what you realized earlier. He maybe have not realized the same thing. That is why he's not blessed with having the ability to not take things seriously. Do you understand what I'm saying? I'm complimenting you here.
Speaker 5:Harris yeah, I know, I'm just going to state. When I was younger, I got in a lot of trouble because I took things too seriously. That's right. In school, I fought like hell because someone said something and I took it too seriously. Yeah, ended up getting suspended, that's right.
Speaker 1:Ended up getting Because you were attached to those things I've also been blessed with.
Speaker 2:I guess now the you know, now, in hindsight, I've also well, I've also had time that's what I'm trying to say to sort of digest or mull over what it means to be faced with this kind of reaction. In the first place is because you come a lot of the times here.
Speaker 1:And not consistently enough for us to have enough glue to understand each other.
Speaker 2:But remember what I said is I did learn from this.
Speaker 4:No, which is nice, he's saying no, no, no no.
Speaker 2:This is a perfect example. He's saying no.
Speaker 1:No, the reason why I say that is because earlier you were angry. You were displaying anger yet again. Hold on, tom. What I'm saying is that you make a statement like I'm a creative right. You come here and say I did not make that statement.
Speaker 2:I talk about writing or I talk about things that I've learned throughout the creative process.
Speaker 4:The guys were here, right, many times that you're a creator right and a lot of times he's fixated himself. Let me speak to Harris.
Speaker 1:Harris, remember what I told you when people have attachments to certain identities and certain things, this is a strong one for him. So when he comes and says that that's his identity, that's what he's attached to Anytime somebody who you guys, for example, the external world goes and attacks, that, that becomes personal to him because he's identifying himself as a creative. For us it's like wait a Wait a second, wait a second. We don't really believe this.
Speaker 1:We don't have the same attachments to. We don't have a horse in a race. He does. That is why there's a clash, it's a natural clash.
Speaker 5:Can I just remind?
Speaker 2:Tommy for a minute. I agree with that. Can I just remind Tommy I'm expressing a self.
Speaker 5:Harris, that's kind of what I'm saying. Can I just remind Tommy for a minute?
Speaker 2:Tommy, right, I want you to go back to the last episode, right, but maybe I don't want to do you. Did you consider why I walked out, why I left? I do, but I feel like everything resolved itself. I, I feel like that we've started at one point. We just I discussed it, you know I was attacked for it, but I eventually resolved it and I felt that that was enough. I think that's that's the rightful punishment well, tell me.
Speaker 5:I'm say, first of all, we never attacked you.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, but we did.
Speaker 2:You guys did. I'm sorry, you guys did.
Speaker 1:You guys got to understand that anything that the individual attaches themselves to it becomes theirs. It's part of their identity. Therefore, if you attack those ideals, it is them that you're attacking.
Speaker 2:We can talk about ideals, absolutely.
Speaker 1:For the moment, we can talk about it, and the reason why the person is suffering is because of the attachments that they have.
Speaker 3:It's a natural occurrence.
Speaker 1:You like Trump, fuck Trump. He's a fucking idiot, go fuck yourself, man, you see.
Speaker 5:You see what I just did A natural, organic lizard. Fuck you bro, tommy. Fuck you bro. Tommy listen, I'm going to just go back. You know how you said you never claimed, you said you were creativity. Last podcast you claimed it 25 something times. Bro Kept going back to that you were creativity. And then you claim totally here has no creativity and he doesn't do any of that.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, we needed some creativity. Yeah, we did get to that point, that's correct.
Speaker 5:And you know what? And, as I said, I did learn you were creative.
Speaker 2:As I said, I did learn and, as a matter of fact, I think it's quite creative that you sit in a group and you discuss something about viewpoints, about when you have a discussion and the discussion goes somewhere and new things emerge. I think that is also a very creative thing that I did not think about before, which makes us all in some ways involved in the creative process, and I find these questions very fascinating.
Speaker 5:They're interesting to me, so I think you owe an apology to Tully for saying he was not a creative.
Speaker 2:I don't know if apologizing to your bully is exactly the right thing to do.
Speaker 5:Tully. In honesty, you might have been bullying Tully too, because you were claiming he didn't do anything. That was creative. Have you ever thought of it like that?
Speaker 2:Harris. I don't know. I feel that the way I deal with him is a way of just letting the narcissist through.
Speaker 5:Maybe he's doing the same thing with you. Have you ever thought about that?
Speaker 2:Just allow that person to go through their process until they've calmed it down.
Speaker 5:I think this is the correct way to do it.
Speaker 3:Have you ever thought he was doing the same thing with you, tommy. I've learned in life sometimes your bully is your teacher.
Speaker 2:Listen these guys Does this guy?
Speaker 3:look like the type of team If you label him as a bully and you think of him as your enemy. Sometimes those are the people that actually help you.
Speaker 1:Joe is very organic man. He fits right in with that Dennis Rocks podcast man.
Speaker 2:But he folds. That's the thing. I know him. Eventually he capitulates.
Speaker 5:Tommy, I'm going to let I know him. Eventually he capitulates. So, tommy, I'm going to let you know something. Okay, you were talking about friends, right Last podcast, true Friends. I got news for you. True Friends, they bust balls A lot.
Speaker 2:Harris, I've also got news for you. I don't watch the news.
Speaker 5:Some of my best friends. We bust each other's balls to the point where guess what dude?
Speaker 2:yeah you gotta laugh at it, bro, because I was waiting for it. That's gay. I was waiting for.
Speaker 1:That's gay dude, when they bust your balls right, make a fucking joke, you know you can't let it hit hard, because you gotta come back at them with yo but you got to understand that the busting of the balls becomes more serious when the person has enough attachment to the thing that they're talking about.
Speaker 5:Well, you got to, tommy. If it totally says something like this creativity shit, you got to come up with something like you got to come back and hit him.
Speaker 2:I get that.
Speaker 1:I don't know if that's the right way to respond. Harris, he takes creativity very seriously.
Speaker 4:dude you also have to understand, Harris, you actually have to be creative to do that.
Speaker 5:To be creative.
Speaker 2:Don't start that shit. I see what kind of mess I've left. I've left the turmoil here.
Speaker 1:Guys, guys, guys. I'm going to tell you this one thing right now right, If we define creativity, I'm going to tell you right now every single person in this room is very creative, Very creative at a maximum. Nobody is better than anybody. For example creativity is this Nobody threw this toy the way I'm about to throw it ever in their life and the way it landed.
Speaker 5:Stop torturing the dog man. You understand this and everything that happened after what happened.
Speaker 1:This cannot be recreated.
Speaker 2:Go get it Penn.
Speaker 5:This is as creative as it gets. Watch Penny's going to fucking climb this fucking thing.
Speaker 2:right here, she has a. She's going to leap off your leg.
Speaker 5:She's starting, bro. You better get her, that's disgusting Sometimes creativity needs criticism Correct.
Speaker 2:But think about it like this If the thing that they're criticizing is not the thing that I'm presenting really, but they're criticizing the person who's talking about these things as ideas, I'm sharing ideas. So you know I'm not exactly looking at critics here. You know it's it's not there that they've read a book or that they've watched a movie or that they've looked. They've looked at art and they've presented Because, look, I've never been in that position. I'll just say that outright. I've never been in the position where I've made something, I put it out there now people are seeing it.
Speaker 3:but I would like to, let's say, you offer totally an example of something that you're doing or that you consider creative, and have him have him debate or or analyze and and, uh, give you, give you feedback on something that you can represent.
Speaker 2:I I don't know if I'm that smart, um, but you know, when I think about, for example, thought experiments and stuff, that's a that, that that would be an idea presented to somebody and, hey, like I could ask what do you think about that?
Speaker 3:I would. I would throw throw something out at him that he can actually produce something that's towards your creativity rather than your person.
Speaker 2:Correct, yeah.
Speaker 3:If you want to give him material, give him material.
Speaker 2:In a way, Harris, I will say that you are right in some respect. I did think that you're not supposed to take it so personal, I'm not going to lie right.
Speaker 5:However, I will say this On every podcast, even some of the videos Eldar shoots.
Speaker 2:Right, he's going to bat for you Hard time.
Speaker 5:I'm just stating right. If you watch some of my videos, my response is right, this is our life. Right here, we bust balls, and if you look back on the podcast, you'll see how they bust my balls. They bust it every time, dude, but I learned throughout my life which you're going to need to learn yourself is to let it roll off the back and have a good laugh. They're not laughing at you, they're laughing with you, dude.
Speaker 1:That's it. At the end of the day, we have to define the word creativity. What the fuck do we mean by that? And I think that if you've come to actually understand what it really means, tom, you realize that at a core level, you should not. If you actually understand what creativity is, it is the most.
Speaker 2:It should invoke the most compassionate side of you, which means that everybody in life is creative and they're not lesser or better or better or less, yeah, okay, so what I'm saying in some ways, though I will actually, I'll look at it just like this when you, when a bully continuously does something or continuously provokes you or offends you and things like that, um, this person is clearly, they clearly have had something in their own life.
Speaker 1:Perhaps that is causing this behavior no, tom, that's not a creative thing. I'm gonna side with joe here when he said that your bully is actually your teacher, and I'm gonna tell you right now that the reason why totally shooting that stuff down is because he wants to keep your ego and your pride in check. That's it. And if it comes across to you that it hurts, it's supposed to hurt but, I'm telling you that's exactly the point it point here.
Speaker 2:He don't give a fuck If you can't take. Neither did I. That's why I left.
Speaker 1:Well, no, actually you did. That's why you left, Tommy, if you can't take.
Speaker 2:No, I didn't, I didn't, I had enough you gave a fuck.
Speaker 1:That's why you left, Tommy. I listened to the whole thing.
Speaker 2:So you did have a good point by saying that I'm discussing this with people who are not actually respecting it or who are not actually in the same. No, they're not.
Speaker 1:They don't understand I think that you don't understand that the people that you're discussing it with actually two steps ahead of you to understand something even deeper than you are in that well, how did you put it before you?
Speaker 2:you, I understood what you said when you said you're talking to them about creativity and they don't necessarily, they don't engage in this process themselves. No, what?
Speaker 1:I'm telling you that if you actually sat down and spoke to Toli about the definition of creativity. If you actually want to come down to the truth of what it actually means you yourself said they were attacking me. So you agree with that right? No, no, no. They're attacking very specific side of you Time out?
Speaker 2:I don't think they can specifically say what they're doing.
Speaker 1:Let him speak for himself.
Speaker 5:And Mike is not here, sure, let him speak for himself, joe, here had something to say.
Speaker 1:Okay, sorry.
Speaker 3:Joe, go ahead. Joe, joe's our guest. Well, if you can't take the criticism of the room of the close people, how much of?
Speaker 2:it do you take? That's the question In the take. Well, that's the question in the outside world.
Speaker 3:You know how do you decide?
Speaker 3:you listen, you hold on so in the outside world, when you present what you're trying to present here in your circle to the public that don't know anything about you and they're going to take face value of just what you're offering them, you're going to get a lot more off the wall type of critiques.
Speaker 3:What he's I don't know how long you guys known each other for, but what he's I don't know how long you guys have known each other for, but what he's developed, if he has a relationship with you, is he sees you and much more of what you're bringing to the table. And if he has a more almost a more valuable opinion on what's going on here than someone that doesn't know you, giving you that opinion, that's more valuable for you to digest what he's saying because you go out to the other world and if you walk out of this room you go to the real world or the public's eye and you'll just delete your account, in a sense. Once you get to hear a taste of what the people out there are going to view and say about you that don't know you, they might have a whole different opinion, at least where he's giving you a more curated understanding of more than just you, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, look what's very clear to me is that this is a very general and very reductive, all the time very, very, very reductive conversation, and that does not involve any of the things that I inquire into. And I think, when it comes to you specifically, or mike, um, I think that there's some kind of like barrier, um, in which you know, the most rational thing for you to do is to to, you know, outright, say like you don't believe, you, don't you, you don't actually um, you know, like you're not buying into this, it's a lie or it's uh, it's clearly some kind of sickness and that's fine. But you don't say that. You just say come on, you know, stop bullshitting us and things like that, um, which is no, I don't think anybody would want to be faced with that continuously, but I'm not but I'm not personally offended. I walked away and I thought that was the right thing to do. Why?
Speaker 1:because you have to choose your battles you also admitted that it wasn't the right choice. Tommy, do you know the movie?
Speaker 2:Karate.
Speaker 3:Kid.
Speaker 2:I admitted. No, I admitted that I'm admitting, in fact, that there is some aspect to both of what Harris said and what you said, about first not taking it personally and then, at the same time, knowing that if you understand what creativity is, then it's everywhere. It's kind of, it allows for all these things, it allows for the teachers and it allows for people to sort of Correct.
Speaker 1:Concede, and the way you weaponized the word creativity that day was incorrect, tom. And when that is being said in the way it's being said, the people who actually pay attention to listening, they feel that at their core and that is why they're giving you the most real reflection of who you actually are. And if you don't like it, it's because you don't like yourself. Hence why I'm going back to what Joe said.
Speaker 2:We did not define creativity that day, and I don't think we were competent enough to do it.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. If you sat down and actually had a conversation about what creativity actually meant. Like I said, you would retract everything that you said when you use the creativity in such a way to bring yourself up in front of the people that are actually just as creative as you are and probably, in that moment I would say, even more creative than you.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but that would subject Tommy to a conversation that involves logic and reason, which is something that he's not willing to do, oh my God. So Tommy?
Speaker 3:if Tully, let's say, is the bully and I said sometimes could be the teacher in the movie, he's a naysayer, he's not a bully, that's fine. In the movie Karate Kid. If Tully is Mr Miyagi and he's telling you he's definitely not, he's telling you clean, clean that window, clean. Well, I came here to, I came here to learn karate, we'll go clean that. Well, why do I clean that? And he feels like he's getting punished. He feels like he's getting misused and he's he's like this, you know, he feels like he's not being understood.
Speaker 3:The end of the day, what he really didn't realize was he was teaching him karate with the tasks that he was being told to do, even though he was resisting that type of teaching, and he took it in a negative light. At the end of the day, he got what he needed to get out of the student. The student couldn't see it when he was trying to instill it. So sometimes he bad mouthed the teacher. Yeah, so sometimes you got to look at it where I don't know what you do in the position in Letta, friend, what's your position? I'm in sales, sales. So in a way, you need to have a few steps ahead of the people you're talking with.
Speaker 4:Well, that's what I was saying is that for my job, and what I've been doing for about 10 years now, is that I speak to different people every single day and they want different things, they pose different arguments on different things and I need to hear them out, listen to what they're saying and then I need to hear them out. Listen to what they're saying and then I need to make appropriate like challenges back to them or like decisions, and I need to know also where to spend my time right based on what they're saying too. So when I hear the things that Tommy has to say, the way that I challenge him back, he in general has a problem with because he would prefer not to address that actual thing and have a logical conversation to it. So I will forever be an enemy to him or feel like an enemy, until he changes his mind about doing that, and that's how I am with everybody.
Speaker 2:So it seems like we're more cut the same cloth.
Speaker 5:So Tommy, I'm going to make a statement to you, okay, oh shit can you follow with a question please?
Speaker 2:if you're going to make a statement, it has to follow the question. Oh, shut up, go fuck yourself because this is not a dictatorship.
Speaker 5:You need to learn to just zip it for a little bit, bro. You need to learn to just zip it for a little bit, bro. You need to relax.
Speaker 1:Okay, I feel right, I go through the same shit you're going through right, every day, you're not, no you're not, harris, I'm gonna yes and no because, again, at the end of the day, it's impossible for you to be going through the same stuff because you're not walking out. No, I'm not, You're not getting your pennies in a bunch.
Speaker 5:Tommy, the whole point right is. I know they care right. Oh, you're in good hands. Yeah, I'm in good hands, I'm not going to lie. What's the name of the company is in good hands, yeah, all right.
Speaker 3:How many hands? Four hands? I don't know man, we never discussed that shit. It's worth extra money, but if it's, four hands.
Speaker 5:It's extra money, but the whole point right. Nine hours out of the day I'm with these guys. I know they care. They do this shit, people you care about. They make remarks like this.
Speaker 3:So the guy you care about is not here right now. Would he be willing to call and check up on his well-being?
Speaker 2:Oh, Because, that's part of why I'm here.
Speaker 1:You got to call him man.
Speaker 3:Then you have to call your friend as well. That's what touched the world. That's what touched the internet.
Speaker 5:Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1:Make sure you put the speaker closer to the mic. Hey, what's up hey, what's up?
Speaker 4:numbnuts how you feel what's?
Speaker 5:going on. Man, I'm all right how you doing you. You are live on denn Rocks oh shit.
Speaker 1:What's up Dennis Rocks? What's going on, mike? What's up guys?
Speaker 5:So are you done faking this illness here?
Speaker 4:No, I think I want to milk it until the rest of the week.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, how are you feeling, though that's not the only thing he's milking, I'm okay.
Speaker 5:Oh shit, what else are you?
Speaker 1:milking bro. Hopefully I'm milking you later. You guys got it like that.
Speaker 5:You should ask your mom how much comes out of there, bro. Oh yeah, I'll ask her. Is she going to come visit tonight? Yeah, I can send her your way.
Speaker 1:Can you tell them the color of lipsticks that you want her to wear?
Speaker 5:Yeah, what's up? No, like a magenta, maybe Something like that, bro, a magenta, you know Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, nice you eating your soup. What are you doing right now, man?
Speaker 1:Right now I'm drinking tea.
Speaker 5:That's fucking boring dude. What do you think I should be doing? Skydiving, skydiving man. Do something Hunting, fishing.
Speaker 3:Mudding. Oh shit, he knows it, he knows it.
Speaker 5:God damn, I love this guy right here.
Speaker 3:The guy's over there.
Speaker 5:Yeah, he's right here.
Speaker 3:How you doing, mike, it's Joe Franco.
Speaker 5:Who is it? Joe Franco man.
Speaker 1:Hey Joe, what's going on?
Speaker 4:Tell him the name of the company. Tell him the name of the company. What is it?
Speaker 3:called again. You don't remember the name of the company. It's called Viral Nation. Oh, that's right, viral Nation. Mike, tell them the name of the company. What is it called again, you don't remember the name of the company.
Speaker 5:It's called Viral Nation. Oh, that's right, viral Nation, mike oh okay, joe alright, joe nice we saw your video, mike.
Speaker 3:I got a lot of attention. Harris reaching out to you part of the reason why I'm here, so the internet knows who you and Harris is More of Harris' face, not so much yours, but we'd be excited to see yours as well.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I'd love to be there, Joe, I mean.
Speaker 1:I'm sick right now, so I couldn't make it for today's podcast.
Speaker 3:That's fine. I'm pretty confident I'll be back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I hope so, wow. So what was your first impression of Harris?
Speaker 3:I mean, he's definitely living up to the hype that the organization was telling me that I was going to experience.
Speaker 5:He's a fine specimen, right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he just did two lizards out of excitement. I didn't do two lizards.
Speaker 5:What the fuck you got.
Speaker 3:The internet is very curious about the lizard in him and they're trying to understand.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, the lizard, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3:It's new to the world out there, so they're very interested.
Speaker 1:I don't think they've ever seen a like that.
Speaker 3:I've heard of it and hearing the business idea that Eldar brought up about the rocks that Harris will be licking.
Speaker 5:I also got some on a t-shirt, man, do I not?
Speaker 3:yes, that sounds very, very interesting, odd but interesting. I don't think the internet and the world is ready for that. That sounds very, very interesting, odd but interesting, and you know, I don't think the internet and the world is ready for that.
Speaker 1:I agree.
Speaker 3:I agree with you, joe so definitely, definitely more to come, so I'm excited to see what else we got here yeah, yeah, you see what the world's been missing, what we've been kind of just getting to experience these past few weeks, selfishly, selfishly, yeah, 100%, yeah I what we've been kind of just getting to experience these past few weeks Selfishly, selfishly. Yeah, a hundred percent. I wish you a speedy recovery in your health. Thank you, sir, hope to see you soon.
Speaker 1:Agreed yeah likewise.
Speaker 3:Nice to informally meet you.
Speaker 1:Likewise Nice to meet you virtually.
Speaker 5:Yeah, when you decide to come back from Russia, let me know bro.
Speaker 3:Alright, you got it.
Speaker 5:Call Crispy, call Crispy. Alright, bro, feel better bro.
Speaker 1:Thank you, bro. Try to call Crispy now. Is he still going on a strip club?
Speaker 5:tonight? I don't know man. I ain't paying for that shit. How old is John? My age? We've known each other for over 20 years. How old are you? 26. Yes, hey, what's up asshole. What's up Gaylord? Where is he? I forgot to fuck you up, man. You are live on Dennis Rocks.
Speaker 3:Nice man.
Speaker 5:Damn bro, when is he? Where are you right now?
Speaker 1:Tell him the Coronas are here.
Speaker 5:I'm away, away. Where Are you doing evil things right now? I'm under roster. Go fuck yourself, bro.
Speaker 2:That's the outside of the strip club voice.
Speaker 5:Who the hell asked you, man, are you at the strip club right now? You went without me, yeah, but you wanted to go to the men and I didn't want to. Oh my God, oh my God, fuck you bro. Oh my God, oh my God, fuck you. You know, since you didn't come through, bro, I ain't paying tonight.
Speaker 3:You ain't.
Speaker 5:You. I ain't paying tonight. You're not gonna pay anyways. Damn bro, that's fucked up. Who picks up the tab most of the time? Asshole, I do. Oh, that's bullshit. Oh, fuck you, bro. The New York trip that went on my credit card. Show us the credit card. Show us the numbers. Don't worry, my accountant already saw that shit. Mike Rosenball, mike Rosenball, isn't that his last name? Yeah, it is. My accountant already saw that shit. Rosenballing Balls patch. Oh shit, what's wrong with you, bro? What'd you say? You missing out, bro? Joe's over here having a good time man.
Speaker 4:Joe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, joel, joe Mama.
Speaker 3:Wait, is it?
Speaker 2:Joe or Jonathan.
Speaker 3:Hi, Crispy. This is Joe Franco from Viral Nation. Do you know how high is the gay snake? I'm starting to learn that he has a little bit of a lizard in him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:He's got a shed of skin.
Speaker 3:He's got a shed of skin. I hope I get to see that. You don't want to. Hey, John or Crispy, how do you like to go by? I like the Pussy Destroyer. How do you like to go by? I like the Pussy Destroyer. Okay, so is there a chance that I'll be able to get to meet the Pussy Destroyer in real life? I don't know. Are you really in Nebraska or are you close by he's bullshit? I am really in.
Speaker 5:Nebraska with Cheryl, my mom. He's 10 minutes away.
Speaker 1:He's with his mom.
Speaker 3:He's with Harris' mom. Is there any way you could send a screenshot of your GPS location?
Speaker 5:I did, I just deleted it. I told you he likes to park around. Hey, John, if you don't get the memo, Joe here would like to meet you.
Speaker 4:I got the memo, you memo.
Speaker 5:Joe, why don't you tell him why you would like to meet him?
Speaker 3:Well, I'm here trying to represent some influencers, content creators, anyone who's looking to expand themselves in the creative world. We got a lot of traction from some clips of Harris, a lot of traction from the characters or actors here on the podcast. Dennis Rocks, your name actually came up because you're friends with Harris. There's a lot of. I don't even know Harris.
Speaker 4:Never met him in my life.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of good banter between the two of you, so even if you don't know each other, viral Nation is looking to represent Hire new imaginary friends, so I'm an agent that works for Viral. Nation is looking to hire new imaginary friends. I'm an agent that works for Viral Nation. I'm looking for people that want to be represented. If that interests you, I say come over to Dennis Rock's podcast before it shuts down for the episode.
Speaker 5:Interesting. Of course he says that, bro. Why are you laughing over there?
Speaker 4:dude, get your ass over here. He right away starts thinking about the money.
Speaker 5:Right away he's interested, you know. Yeah, you know, john, you've had one foot in the door, bro. Get your ass over here, bro, we told you. Once the train leaves the station, that's it, bro. You're left behind, wait shut up, Harris.
Speaker 4:Why do you sound like a little girl giggling?
Speaker 5:Go fuck yourself, man. That's not what your mama said last night, bro. Okay, cheryl told me that no Bathsheba, bro. Oh my god.
Speaker 3:I gotta make my escape. Hey, man Get gotta make my escape.
Speaker 5:Hey, man, get your ass over here. Everyone knows you're not really over there at Retro Fitness working your ass off bro.
Speaker 3:What did they think?
Speaker 5:They think you're over there doing evil things.
Speaker 2:What are?
Speaker 5:you putting in those drinks, bro you getting swole. Check the window. I'm right there. I can't believe I really looked. You fucking asshole, Are you coming or what?
Speaker 4:I'm already there, you just can't see me.
Speaker 3:It was nice to meet you over the phone, john. Maybe one day we'll meet you in person, that's a good one.
Speaker 5:What do you mean, good one? Don't trust Harris are you coming, or what? See what I mean by one foot in, one foot out well, listen.
Speaker 3:The question is will you forget about him when you make it big?
Speaker 5:absolutely not. I've always made it clear that I will remember where I come from.
Speaker 4:But first you got to slap them with a stack of bills.
Speaker 5:Yeah, Bro what is wrong with you.
Speaker 4:He needs a slap.
Speaker 5:Yo, this is one of my oldest friends, right? I've had friends that you know. When they get older, right? They forget about where they come from. They go to college, they do all this shit, they move away and they don't remember who their friends are. This is one of my oldest friends 20 years.
Speaker 3:So you're Bam Argera and John's Ryan Dunn.
Speaker 5:Oh shit, I don't know if I want to be compared to Bam. Bam used to be one of my favorite.
Speaker 3:Well, Bam is bigger. He's popular because of who he is. Ryan was just his friend.
Speaker 4:I would definitely take John along with it. Is your company familiar with them?
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I mean listen. That show. Jackass had a group of people, and then what happened with the talent inside that group? They realized that these people needed their own shine, their own show. Bam got his own show, party Boys and Steve-O got their own show.
Speaker 5:Everyone branched off into something that they were able to take out. I was a huge jackass fan and I grew up skating everyone. We grew up on this one street called parmalee and we had like eight of us, eight of us kids, we all skated, we we grouped a crew growing up and you know, fair lawn did not have a skate park. So we go to different areas and skate but we get kicked out, we break bones, uh they put up no skateboarding signs and uh, eventually we were doing stupid shit and we grew apart. But the point is we grew up watching jackass, we grew up watching bam. Yeah, bam was a true one.
Speaker 3:That was a mess right now.
Speaker 5:I know, I've heard about that, I've seen him.
Speaker 1:You know why Bam is a mess right now.
Speaker 5:His best friend died and he's not been saying since.
Speaker 1:Unlike you, Bam was not in.
Speaker 5:I get that, but I'm going to be honest with you. When his friend died, he's gone to a point where a lot of people have gone and has allowed booze to take control has allowed drugs to take control.
Speaker 1:Because what? Because he was not in good hands, I get that.
Speaker 3:But he was not the only person who's lost a friend. No, I know.
Speaker 5:He's chosen an outlet that is not a good outlet.
Speaker 3:He's pointing that out. It was his environment that allowed him to abuse substances and get to that point and he's had his jackass family that did try to attempt to help get him help.
Speaker 1:They clearly were not the good hands that he he needed.
Speaker 5:But even with people trying to help right Even you said it If they're not willing to accept the help, they can't really do anything. You know, yeah, they tried. Unfortunately he wasn't at that point ready to accept the help. Whether or not he will be able to accept the help will have to be seen.
Speaker 3:The jury's still out, so do you accept the help that's provided to you? I?
Speaker 5:do I do? We're going to transition.
Speaker 1:We're going to transition quickly oh, at times, hold on one second. We're going to transition into gratitude, right? Um, tommy has probably nothing to say about this topic, but nonetheless, yeah, you, you know, obviously didn't I just start it off?
Speaker 2:didn't I say that I was thinking about gratitude, being grateful for my parents?
Speaker 5:and going out with them. It doesn't mean that you said anything. I don't think that has anything to do with the topic it does everyone has gratitude towards their parents yes, that's easy well, yeah, it's through action, through goodness, yeah, that we totally said at times Joe
Speaker 1:that Harris does have gratitude towards us, but sometimes he doesn't.
Speaker 3:What are those?
Speaker 1:times. Maybe we can start a little bit. Why are you in good?
Speaker 4:hands. I think it's much harder for people to accept help than to actually help them. Oh wow.
Speaker 3:So, wow, much harder for people to accept help.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like, for example, if you have an issue with something right and we're competent in it, right, for example, it's a lot harder for you to put yourself in a position where you can accept the help and change yourself than it is for us to figure out what we actually need to do. Right, because I think, if we collectively put our minds together, I think it's very easy to find solutions to particular problems or issues right. The understanding of it, the changing of it, the implementation of it, the mindset changes that are required, the lowering of the ego, the being humble, right All of those things that you would need to go through are um much harder, I think, to do than the people that have to figure out what, what you need to actually do yeah and that's for I.
Speaker 4:I believe that that's probably for every single issue out there actualization of the of the yeah yeah, like all the knowledge, all the information is, you know, out there, it's within us, like all that it's all out there, right, it's much more. It's much harder for you to to accept that information and kind of, uh, understand it and implement it and do it like that. That whole process is much harder than figuring it out. Same same thing with harris's case. Right, we can have all the end, all the answers to all of his issues, but it doesn't mean that he's in a position to accept any of them.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so that's basically where these guys had the idea, for Harris is in good hands. Yeah, to show my progression throughout.
Speaker 1:But we also wanted to raise awareness about a very specific thing, joe, and that is the early stages of Alzheimer's.
Speaker 5:Oh, shut up, they insist. I have an early onset, and that is the early stages of Alzheimer's. Oh, shut up, they insist. I have an early onset, fucking.
Speaker 1:Alzheimer's. That is why we came up with the whole thing that Harris is in good hands, because he can always go back and to find out, like, what does it mean to actually be in good hands? We always want to remind him that he's in good hands because one day we believe that he will not think that he's in good hands and that is the time when he's going to be experiencing that sickness, that illness.
Speaker 1:And we hope that we're leaving enough crumbs out there for him to be able to find his way home and understand that he actually is in good hands.
Speaker 5:Oh, Eldar, shut the hell up about this Alzheimer's disease.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, and like in the movie the Notebook.
Speaker 1:Oh, this guy's good man. I watched it recently.
Speaker 2:I watched it because you brought it up on the podcast.
Speaker 3:So Noah had to read to Allie every night for her to come back. Yeah, so you know, if one day, god forbid, you lose, you know you lose your marbles or your rocks, you know you lose your marbles or your rocks. That's good If there's something that you can come back to whether it's a podcast or a YouTube channel. You just rewatch the stuff that shaped you.
Speaker 4:You see the hands that were used. Wait, you wanted us to call you Allie this whole time.
Speaker 5:Fuck you, bro. What the fuck?
Speaker 1:Get out of your goddamn mind bro, listen, that's a very good analogy. Have you seen the notebook?
Speaker 5:I Get out of your goddamn mind, bro.
Speaker 1:Listen, that's a very good analogy. Have you seen the notebook?
Speaker 5:I have not. No, oh my God. All right, toli's homework is for you to watch the notebook tonight.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean the only point, right.
Speaker 5:The only point you have to do is you have to see yourself when that notebook came out. Hold on, hold on, listen, listen.
Speaker 1:You have to see yourself in Allie and if you decide to come on Monday and you want us to start calling you Allie we're completely fine with that.
Speaker 3:Either you watch.
Speaker 1:The.
Speaker 3:Notebook or.
Speaker 1:Brokeback Mountain. You choose. Whoa, you're wearing the same pants that dude was wearing before he went up there. That's disgusting.
Speaker 5:When the Notebook came out, I remember I was in school, right. The only people that went to go see that is when they were taking their girl to see that shit. Because that was the makeout movie of the time right now, bro, finger banger, Right that's exactly right, bro. You sit in the fucking back, bro. That's exactly what you do with the fucking movie.
Speaker 1:So why did you invite your boy Crispy for the fucking movie? You want to shove that finger up his ass, listen.
Speaker 5:Yo, you're a fucking asshole, you son of a bitch.
Speaker 1:So yes, as Joe was saying, we're leaving these crumbs for you to find your way back, because, at the end of the day, where the hell am I going? Where you're going is that we're going to push you to a place where you're going to think that we're enemies and the world's going to try to make you believe that. Remember these words and we're going to see whether or not you're going to be able to understand the test of time.
Speaker 5:I got a question for you. What the fuck have you been smoking, bro? I'm not smoking anything.
Speaker 1:I'm explaining to you exactly what's going to happen.
Speaker 5:Yeah, you got that in mind, bro.
Speaker 3:These are Secret Service. These are your Secret Service team. Harris, there might be a day they're jumping on top of your body.
Speaker 4:Or you feel the same way about us as Tommy does.
Speaker 5:Don't compare me to this guy.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry there might be a day.
Speaker 4:Yes, Listen to what he's saying, and when that happens, we're going to try to remind you as best as we can.
Speaker 5:We might fail. Then I'm in good hands, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, how long has either or been in the picture? Well, Tommy has been with us for much longer.
Speaker 3:Okay, so then it's possible.
Speaker 4:But much shorter at the same time.
Speaker 1:But much shorter at the same time. It's a paradoxical thing. Harris has been with us for only two months, but he's closer to our hearts, if that makes sense.
Speaker 5:But for now In the world. No, no, no, but for now, Eldar has known me, like I said, since I was 13 years old. He's been a big impact in my fucking life.
Speaker 3:I hope so. So I have a question, eldar Do you think that, as close as you feel that he is now, do you think you could lose him like that?
Speaker 1:A hundred percent. Yeah, I think that the world, I think he's still on between a battle of Harris understanding who he is and believing in his own power versus what the world might tell him he should believe. And that's the battle that I'm having. And until there's, you know, an actual like a break where Harris actually believes in himself and doesn't allow the world to dictate for him, like his parents, his friends, the listeners, the fans and stuff like that. Of what it is, I'm not yet sure, so the jury's still out on that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think the metaphor for it is and I think maybe we've all experienced this when you go to the shore, you go into the water and you go a little bit deep with your friends, right, because you enjoy like jumping over the waves, you know, and kind of having some fun. You could do that. Let's say, you know every day and everything could be fine. Wave comes, you see it, you know, you go under, you go over, you know you have your fun, you leave, you go home. But one day there could be a day and this is all happened to us, right, we get caught off guard and the wave fucking slaps us. Yeah, right.
Speaker 5:We kind of fall in the water You're doing bro.
Speaker 4:And when that happens, it comes to test. Are you strong enough?
Speaker 5:Yeah, you know, that's because you don't know what you're doing, bro.
Speaker 4:To get hit by that wave, you know, and pick yourself back up and continue moving forward, or you get sucked in, and that could happen at any point, at any flash, at a flash at a moment yeah.
Speaker 3:And we're gonna see People drown every day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, People get shot every day. B you gonna be alright Yo.
Speaker 5:Yo, you don't know what you're doing in the ocean, and that's okay, man Alright.
Speaker 1:Listen only time will tell.
Speaker 5:I've never got stuck in the undertow man. I knew what I was doing. You got to know when to jump down?
Speaker 4:Yeah, but you have a natural floating device. What is that that tire that you wear?
Speaker 5:What, what Take off your shirt.
Speaker 1:Show us the nippies hey.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Hey, fuck you man. Thank you, I appreciate that. Fuck yous, by the way, Joe, is actually compliments that you get from Harris. The more you can get out of those the better it is for you.
Speaker 5:So how it started was me and my brother. We never said, you know, like normal family members, like oh, I love you, shit like that, our shit like that, our basically love you was fuck you, bro. Yeah, fuck you too, man. That was our way of saying I love you, but not showing any emotion. Yeah, so I just carried around. That's how I express like thank you, man.
Speaker 1:You're great, you know, I appreciate you I'm racking a lot of these up, so I'm like he's blessing me with a lot of these. Have you ever?
Speaker 3:tried actually with the sentimental side.
Speaker 5:I have, but this is how I've been most of my life. What you don't know is I spent a lot of time in a shelter Sitting on someone's lap. Oh, fuck you.
Speaker 1:That is weird. I spent a lot of time.
Speaker 5:I spent about 10 months in a New York City shelter.
Speaker 3:You're from.
Speaker 5:New York. It was during COVID.
Speaker 4:I lost my job in Jacksonville, my family, a lot of my family was Just for the record, before you continue the story. What does a certain female from Jacksonville call you as your nickname?
Speaker 3:I saw the lizard's tongue Sweet dick.
Speaker 5:The bowl from New Jersey. The bowl, yeah Bowl or bowl Bowl. Why bowl she calls me the bowl from New Jersey? Okay, because the sex was absolutely insane, or it was bullshit, because I would last for a good 45 to 50 minutes what did you put on your junk? That's all natural I went all in dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm gonna can you, can you show, can you, can you voice some of the noises that you're the?
Speaker 5:grunts, fuck you. But uh, I I showed eldar the text, bro, and he's like goddamn. Yo goddamn boy. Yeah, but yeah, she called me the Bo from New Jersey. So now it's the-.
Speaker 5:Now it's the Bo that's the Bo from New Jersey that could be. And actually Mike fucking stole that fucking nickname, bro. He made it his fucking PlayStation fucking ID. That was the Bo from fucking New Jersey, fucking asshole. But anyway, back to the serious note. I was in the shelter for a good 10 months and if you know anything about New York City shelters, or you heard about it, it's very gay.
Speaker 3:It's not very gay.
Speaker 4:Really. Really, is that like a dumb thing?
Speaker 5:They're actually one of the most dangerous fucking shelter systems in all of the country. Dangerous, as in like if you're straight or Dangerous as if you cross someone, you got gangbangers in there. You got Crossing, swords Crossing swords.
Speaker 4:Gangbangs no, you got gang members. There's gangbangs in there.
Speaker 5:What the fuck, you got parolees that if they don't have. If someone at home right has a felony or something, they put them in the shelter and the parole agents come. We've had when I was there, we've had FBI agents fucking come in.
Speaker 1:How many times did you?
Speaker 5:fight in the shower. Fuck you, bro. Like they're dangerous, bro you. There's a lot of stabbings. There's several people that were dead in the fucking bathroom and they'd sit there for five hours waiting for a fucking president from the fucking morgue to come pick up the fucking body. I mean, it was fucking dangerous as fuck. So I had to create a persona for myself, that I was fucking bad, right.
Speaker 1:Can you show Joe that thing where you go into the subway system and what you do? What do you mean, that thing? Joe wanted a skit actually. What that thing? That when you stand in the subway, what do you have to do?
Speaker 4:Oh no, but he has to go get the jacket. The subway platform.
Speaker 1:Get the jacket, yeah the subway platform. When you go inside the subway, you have to do something.
Speaker 5:What are you talking about Do?
Speaker 3:you reach for a fake gun. Oh yeah, I do actually my dad told me about this. When he was in the 80.
Speaker 1:How did you?
Speaker 3:know, about that I'm from New York.
Speaker 4:My dad told me so I was doing it. If you were ever uncomfortable.
Speaker 5:Put your hand in your pocket and no one's going to fucking approach you. They'll be afraid to do it.
Speaker 1:Get the jacket. It's hanging up there. You have to show it. Show it, come on. You showed it to us before.
Speaker 3:Come on, bro, I'd like to go back to the headquarters, maybe with a photo or video of it. So what do you mean Of just that image?
Speaker 5:Oh man.
Speaker 4:And pull up your pants, bro. It's disgusting. Why do you always want to be naked?
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And, for the record when he comes back, the jacket that he's wearing was not stolen or wrangled from a homeless person.
Speaker 3:Wrangled, it was given to him.
Speaker 5:I was always told to go back to the fucking subway and kind of do that. You sit down, go like that, and you fucking keep your hand in there like that and I won't fucking approach you.
Speaker 4:Wait, wait, a second Wait. How would you do it, though? Standing up? What's the dildo.
Speaker 5:Go to the side of the floor Fucking. Go to the door, like that.
Speaker 1:Can you pull that out? Can you pull out the dildo? This?
Speaker 5:asshole. He brings this back from Greece and goes I got you a present. Not big enough, yeah, but you know, I was in the juggling system for 10 months and I had to turn into something. I had to fight, because it's either fight or be prey in there. So I built this.
Speaker 4:Were there some days where you preferred to be the prey.
Speaker 1:Oh, fuck you bro, yeah what days are those Mondays and Tuesdays, or Mondays and Thursdays?
Speaker 5:Fuck you, bro, but I turned into something in there, bro. I turned into A savage. Yeah, I blended in with my area and that's what we're trying to.
Speaker 3:Because, now you're in better hands.
Speaker 1:No, exactly. And now that he has to finally come to his senses to understand that he's in good hands, he doesn't have to put up that image anymore.
Speaker 3:He doesn't have to be that guy. So the walls are coming down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh well, slowly, he's still like oh, you want to fight and all this other crap. You know that he, he's learned from before. To you guys, or to the public? To us too, you know what?
Speaker 3:I mean.
Speaker 1:To us Sometimes progress, but we're on it. That's good. I like that. Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Tom.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that place was no fucking joke, man. But you're in a better place now. Yeah, I'm in a better place Now. I got motivation.
Speaker 4:I don't ever want to end up at that point in my life and tell him another big change that you've recently had. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:No, he's not ready to reveal that yet. What are you talking about, bro? What's his name? Hormone blockers.
Speaker 5:Oh fuck, no, no, no, now you're losing your game.
Speaker 4:No, I'm talking about an actual good thing that recently changed about him. Oh, what Beside? What are you doing every day now?
Speaker 5:What do you mean?
Speaker 4:What are you doing every day, multiple times a day?
Speaker 5:now, joe, shut up, bro. What, what are you talking about? What? Taking a dump, yeah, oh, so they're talking about to the point where I once the longest I ever went without taking a shit was two weeks and tell them why tell them why, what, why like?
Speaker 1:what happened in the first place for those two weeks? Wow, I didn't have to go, bro. I can tell you what happened. Come on, stop it. What happened?
Speaker 2:What did you see for?
Speaker 4:that one week, like the second week, in particular happened. Where were you staying?
Speaker 5:What do you mean you were talking about? Oh, you're talking about when it started off. I was staying with my ex-girlfriend so I didn't want to blow up her fucking bathroom, so I fucking held it in bro.
Speaker 3:She was your girlfriend at the time. Yeah, we just started dating.
Speaker 5:You didn't want her to know that you poop. I didn't want her to know that I blew the bitch up.
Speaker 3:Like when I take a dump.
Speaker 5:I blew the bitch up.
Speaker 3:Little did you know.
Speaker 2:It was like her shit.
Speaker 5:Her farts and her shit smelled like fucking perfume dude. I don't know what the fuck is wrong with her. There's no way Like a bull from New Jersey. Yo bro that shit is deadly. I'm not going to fucking lie Like that shit is deadly.
Speaker 3:So what happened to you? Did you have to go to the hospital?
Speaker 5:No, bro, I ended up?
Speaker 1:Did they suck it out of you?
Speaker 5:No, Were you stuck inside for two weeks? I'm waiting to his tits.
Speaker 3:You couldn't leave the apartment and go weeks.
Speaker 5:No, bro, I felt fine, like my stomach didn't even hurt. I don't even know what's wrong here.
Speaker 4:Tell them what happened last week.
Speaker 2:I could see him shitting into a bag and throwing it out there. What?
Speaker 4:happened last week? What happened last week here? What did you do over there? Fuck you, I'm not bringing that shit up, why?
Speaker 5:not. No one wants to hear this shit.
Speaker 4:No, it's not even about what happened. It's about what was your reaction to it.
Speaker 5:What did you think?
Speaker 4:would be the best decision afterwards. Fuck yeah, I'm not bringing that up.
Speaker 5:No, no, no. No one needs to hear this shit. It's not a big deal. Come on, he goes into the crapper. I called the plumber bro.
Speaker 4:We're now at this office that we're currently in going into a second year Right, and nobody has ever clogged the toilet.
Speaker 5:Yes, they have. It's a commercial.
Speaker 4:That's commercial, right. It's a commercial bathroom made for commercial shits, right. He went in there. He clearly took an enterprise level.
Speaker 1:But to be fair, he is a bull from New Jersey, he is a bull from New Jersey.
Speaker 4:Yes, he clogged the bathroom and he said that there was just all brown at the top. He was just looking for a piece of paper in here and his plan was just to leave it there and put an out of order sign on the bathroom.
Speaker 5:Call the plumber, bro.
Speaker 2:Mike clogged that fucking toilet.
Speaker 5:I'm about to walk out, mike clogged the toilet and he had to go on the plumber.
Speaker 3:Sometimes you gotta deal with your own shit and get in there with a plunger.
Speaker 5:I was plunging the shit. I had to wait until it went down a little bit, I told him.
Speaker 4:He could just stick his arm down there and pull out the mouse that's what.
Speaker 5:I'm saying I had to wait for it to go down so I could really fucking get in there, because if I would have done that when I was there, that shit would have been fun.
Speaker 2:Now question Is this a ploy Harris?
Speaker 5:Did you have?
Speaker 2:this all planned? Did you have the whole climbing thing planned, or what no?
Speaker 5:so what happened was they got me eating all this exotic food that I'm not used to. Can we specify? Mediterranean no it's not just Mediterranean. You got meat, Mid-Eastern, fucking Indian Shit that will blow. If you're not used to it, blow your fucking intestines out Good.
Speaker 3:That cuisine's far from your base, right.
Speaker 5:Listen, I was living in Nebraska for three years.
Speaker 3:Tell them what you were eating every day.
Speaker 5:Bro. So in Nebraska every year my sister-in-law's father would have a cow every year and then replace it and he'd send it to the slaughter and then bring the meat and everyone in the family gets a shit ton of fucking meat and when they run out they just go to his freezer and get more. So we would have beef every fucking day. Whoa steaks best steaks I ever had fall off the fucking bone.
Speaker 4:No preservatives, no, nothing and where would you get pizza?
Speaker 1:did the cow identify as they or no?
Speaker 5:I don't know, bro, but he tasted damn good but damn like. When I was down there I went to my first fucking rodeo. That was fucking awesome and I told them. I said I want to learn how to ride a boat when I go down there and visit my nieces and my nephews and my brother. I'm going to go over there. There's a rodeo school nearby and I'm going to pay to learn how to ride a bull and I'm going to see if I can stay on for that eight seconds.
Speaker 3:You got the electronic ones you can go to. Oh, we're going to go there in the city. Yes, we're going to take it to the city.
Speaker 1:That's not the real thing. Really no we're yeah, it's a good stepping stone these are like kiddie bowls and you can be, oiled up and in a thong if you want to. Oh, fuck you man.
Speaker 4:Harrison, tell, tell Joe what kind of apartment you had over there and what did it cost per month?
Speaker 5:so yeah, I was paying a hundred bucks for an apartment over there. Whoa it was? Uh, I was basically a living, I was basically a nanny for, but you know what?
Speaker 1:He's still wearing the titties. You can say all parents.
Speaker 5:You can joke, but it was actually the best experience of my life, because I got to watch my nieces for three years and I got to watch them grow up for the first three years of their life and breastfeed them, and it was a great experience because you know why?
Speaker 5:Because when I have kids, I'm going to know exactly what to do. Yeah, I'm not going to be one of these first parent type things. Yeah, I'm not gonna be one of these first parent type things. I'm gonna know how to change diapers, I'm gonna know how to change all this shit. Yeah, but it was a great experience because I actually got the bond and Basically watch my nieces grow up nice and they know exactly who I am when they see, when I hear my voice over the phone I'm video chat they come running. It's the greatest fucking feeling.
Speaker 4:Why don't you tell Joe about Nicole?
Speaker 5:Dude, we're not doing this right now, why not? Joe about Nicole Dude. We're not doing this right now. Why not?
Speaker 4:Alright, I'm not gonna. I know better than that, bro. We'll give her a piece of the pie later.
Speaker 5:Because when I go visit there, bro, I'm not coming back. Yeah, you're not coming back. Alright, we need you to stay local.
Speaker 1:Alright, so gratitude, Harris. What are you grateful for, man?
Speaker 5:Being in good hands, my family. So gratitude, Harris. What are you grateful for man? Being in good hands, Wow, my family.
Speaker 1:You know, okay, you having a good time. I am, I'm having a great time.
Speaker 5:That's awesome. I'm glad to be back in civilization there you go Down there. It was not the place for a single guy or anyone single. Yeah, Everything was far apart. I'm proud to be back where I grew up, even though everything has fucking changed bro.
Speaker 1:Everything has changed, but nothing has changed at the same time.
Speaker 5:I went back to my town bro, I don't recognize it. I don't recognize it, bro. Look at all these fucking condos. Fairlawn was known, as you know. Everyone had houses. Now you got apartment buildings everywhere. All the fucking pizzerias I knew are fucking gone.
Speaker 2:What if we could get Trump to be mayor of Fairlawn? Would you prefer that?
Speaker 5:This is some serious shit, bro. John's Pizza no longer fucking exists, bro. Sal's Sal's our stomping grounds fucking gone bro. All you got left is Bella Vita, fucking Rays. What the fuck Everything I knew about my fucking town is non-existent. I'm grateful, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's very good, but what the fuck man?
Speaker 5:Life happens, man. In fucking what? Nine years, everything you knew is gone, yeah not everything that's part of life.
Speaker 2:I mean, maybe green dragon's gone. Who?
Speaker 5:gave a shit about green dragon bro. That was something fucking new.
Speaker 1:We had a huge fire, joe, half a block up.
Speaker 5:That was arson an entire strip mall is gone.
Speaker 2:That was arson and they're gonna tear that shit down and they're gonna build fucking townhomes.
Speaker 4:Jewish New Jersey got burnt down too. Who did it?
Speaker 5:I believe it was the owner. They're gonna tear that bitch down and build townhouses. Mark my words there's gonna be townhouses so you think it's fraud?
Speaker 5:I'm thinking it's fraud. He's trying to get shit and now, when he gets the money, he's gonna build these townhouses. So you think it's fraud? Yeah, I'm thinking it's fraud. He's trying to get shit and now, when he gets the money, he's going to build these townhouses. Because Fairlawn, the strip mall next to it, just served everyone eviction notices that at the end of the year, that's it. Everyone's got to go when that railroad tavern is, whatever next to it, they next to it. They served notices that next year everyone's got to go because they're building, they're tearing it down and building townhouses.
Speaker 3:Are you willing to go on record Wow?
Speaker 2:bro that's the May Sushi building. I'm willing to go.
Speaker 5:I'm willing to go on record Watch If townhouses are built there. Once they tear that down they're not going to repair it.
Speaker 1:They're not going to put this on record too. If that happens, and if actually Harris is right that they're going to build townhouses there, I will buy him a brand new dildo.
Speaker 5:Fuck you bro. What the fuck you need? A fucking dildo, bro All right, fine, Fine Gratitude.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Harris Toli. Any words on gratitude? Any words on?
Speaker 4:gratitude Like in, like in what it sounds like just in general.
Speaker 1:What do you think, what do I?
Speaker 4:think I think gratitude is a good base, you know.
Speaker 1:To come back to, always, but it's very hard, it's very hard.
Speaker 4:Wow, it's very hard.
Speaker 1:Why is it hard? I like that because um because why, why do we have such a hard time with gratitude and we always lose sight of it?
Speaker 4:Because it's never, enough. Our desires and our goals are in vain.
Speaker 1:Okay, fine, that's a very good answer, tom, I would love to hear your opinion, but not right now.
Speaker 2:Our desires. Does that make sense? Our desires and our goals are in vain. I mean, like our desires and our goals are, are they don't matter? Is that what you're trying to say?
Speaker 4:no, like that. The things that we desire and want to do are not rooted in truth, which is why we have a very hard time things that we desire and we don't and we want to do, but at the end of the day, uh, having the ability to be grateful is actually a skill that is constantly being bound by our desires.
Speaker 1:Our desires supersede having the ability to be grateful, they take over, and that is why we are constantly not satisfied.
Speaker 2:Is that kind of? Do you agree with that? Yeah?
Speaker 4:I do.
Speaker 3:Joe, what do you think about gratitude? I think gratitude could easily be taken for granted. You wake up every day. That could be taken for granted. You have a good friend that could be taken for granted. A relationship with your family member can be taken for granted. And being grateful for the things you have in life sometimes is easy to forget you have until you actually lose it. That's when people actually become realize that they were grateful for things that they weren't grateful for in the present.
Speaker 1:And do you think that it's funny you say that. Do you think that some people have to go through the process of losing it in order to realize it?
Speaker 3:Yes, that's why the saying is you don't know what you have until you lose it.
Speaker 1:But it's for very specific individuals.
Speaker 3:Yes, because you can learn.
Speaker 1:For the ungrateful ones.
Speaker 3:Yes, because you can learn what. For the ungrateful ones? Yes, because you can learn what you have and you know while you have it and be aware of it and be grateful for it. You don't need to lose something in order to you know, understand what it is you have.
Speaker 1:Okay, fair I mean Tommy Gratitude being grateful. I mean Tommy gratitude being grateful.
Speaker 2:I mean what totally just said blew my mind about it being something that you can return to. I mean, I really have tried to. I don't know. I've subconsciously considered what you said, since you were in my car, sick as hell, coming off the plane and saying you think it's a gratitude, is a skill, and that got me thinking about virtues and how I read Last year I did some philosophy workbook called what Would Plato Think, and one of these questions was what are virtues?
Speaker 2:Author conveyed, was you establish virtues through acting virtuous, through specifically putting into some practice that virtue that you try to establish. So I try to look at it like that really been trying to be grateful for everything that I have, you know, to sort of lower the stress and to like take a moment, you know, to like um, to to think before getting angry, or um, or to to fully consider people. You know um, to live present in the moment, um, you know um to live present in the moment, um. So, and this is profoundly, I think, like affected how I work and how I, what I choose to do, and um, you know, I I usually don't feel the desire to come here. I don't, I don't know why, um, I think it's because I feel threatened me too, oh, okay.
Speaker 2:So now I'm not free thinking here, so let's just say that, um. But one of the reasons I would say generally, you know, um, you know, without striking a nerve here or anything like that, I would say it's generally, because I do have this idea of virtue in mind. I have an idea of virtue in mind in terms of being super good, and to me these things are directly related to doing more reading and becoming someone and something generally. And I know now I go out there into the world and I say, okay, this is something that, as a writer, I could potentially engage with. So I try to keep my attention, and to me my attention is like a source of finding healing. I could direct my attention to things and this could potentially become something meaningful to me.
Speaker 2:Writing is meaningful to me. So I'm looking at myself and treating myself in a way as a creative and as a writer, and that's a good thing. But one of the reasons why I don't come out is because I consider certain things like distractions and I consider them traps. And it's not, it's not personal, it's it's my own fault. You know, it's like it's it's my own, you always grab the rat by its tail.
Speaker 2:It's my own ignorance and I appreciate that actually, and so, like, I think there's a positive outcome here. To not take things personally. We said that's one thing and the other thing is that creativity should be a kind of all encompassing thing that will allow for the appreciation of another person's contribution to things. You know, like, I think that's what it generally is. I'm trying my best to be, to have humility and to be humble about, like you know, my life, because I do see this as like the optimal way to live and I think it is directly related to how well and how effective I am, you know, and it's just like a day at a time. It pretty much is, but I don't want to go too deep into this right now because I do have.
Speaker 2:I have a history of having kind of struggles. I have a history of that I'm still that I am trying to elaborate on through my writing specifically. Like this is my mission. My mission is not an easy one, but it's one that has kept me going and that is fulfilling and it's one that I directly deal with, and I think that the reason why this isn't such a hot button right now is because I've mentioned this before. Harris, you may not have been here, but this has repeatedly come up. Where my book is related to me, it's related to my life, and these are the bits and pieces that I come in.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know you went on for 15 minutes last time about this man and look, and here's the thing, I am trying to establish an identity. So I have a question, but I'm not exactly sure quite what that identity is. So I have a question for you.
Speaker 5:Yes, can I please have a sneak peek at this book? I mean, we've been asking for so long I'm glad you asked I.
Speaker 2:I think I'm more open to it now um but uh, I just want.
Speaker 4:That does not in any way make me. I make it obligatory. You'll never see this book you really believe?
Speaker 3:that, tommy, sometimes. Sometimes let's say you're the book you're writing, yeah, doesn't need to be for anyone. You don't need to prove anything to anyone. If writing is what makes you happy, yes, then let writing just make you happy. Don't let writing or making this book an ultimate goal to prove something, to make you rich, to become a writer. If writing is the creative aspect of writing, is something you like, do it because you like it yeah, that's very interesting, and don't, don't take yourself of writing is something you like.
Speaker 3:Do it because you like it. Yeah, that's very interesting.
Speaker 2:And don't take yourself that serious where you put all this pressure on you. Someone's vantage point is very, it adds, it brings a lot of information in, you know. So what you said I think might be expressed a different way if somebody else said it and you know, from a different point of view. I really liked that. I don't. I don't think, like you know, like directors, for example, they're asked did you write this role for that particular actor? Um, it's, it's not really like what I'm writing. I don't think would be related, um, and it might even be advice.
Speaker 2:I think it might be advice to think about to who your who's, your, who your audience is like, who's that particular person that you write for? Um, and I don't know if that's. I think that might, I think that might motivate on some level. You know, just so that like the way a cup of coffee might help you wake, might help you wake up in the morning, um, but uh, I I don't think like that in particular, and I have thought of it, I've tried to explore that Is there somebody who I'm writing for, somebody who I'm I'm trying to master this craft, which is kind of that's the challenge, and I find that the more that I do, kind of what I've been doing, is allowing me to get there, but it's very hard to gauge and measure it without certain things which I have not talked about and I won't. Maybe it's not the right time to discuss that.
Speaker 2:Or maybe it's not a proper time to discuss it at all.
Speaker 4:I'm not sure if your company has done this before. Yeah, I'm not sure if your company has considered this in the past, because I know it can get quite expensive, but have they ever considered paying somebody to not continue being creative or creating content?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would like to install that. I think Tom's benchmark is actually aging and if Tom has finally bought into aging as being the source of his happiness just aging I think that that will be gold when it comes to him being creative. But it's very hard to do, obviously. It's hard to say you know what? I'm just aging and I'm happy about that.
Speaker 3:Well, the easiest thing is to say you know, to each their own, and when you have your own spin on whatever you want, there's always going to be a customer for it. Yeah, Because what people, one person's trash, another person's treasure?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And you don't, you know, you don't need to have something. That's so. Yeah, exactly, it could be anything, it could just be. It could just be. It could just be you aging. Like I said, seinfeld made a show on on that and made a career out of it, and it was about a show about nothing which became something because it was just my attention.
Speaker 2:Giving my attention to the world has allowed me to come across something that was very peculiar. I don't know where you came up with this aging thing, but I think it's funny.
Speaker 1:I think it's anecdotal, it's scary. No, I actually think that's an antidote to your suffering.
Speaker 2:Perhaps, yeah, perhaps, but what was it? I can't think of it. Give me a second, it was Aging Tom. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:Okay, while you think, why don't we give Harris a go?
Speaker 5:Tom, I just want to remind you. Oh yes, yes, yes it was it was.
Speaker 2:it was the beginning of Susan Sontag's book and she's a feminist. I don't know much about her, but she's a feminist in the 70s I think, and it's called On Women. And I read the introduction at barnes and noble and the first thing was that she wrote roughly I'm going to paraphrase it, I don't know it had to do with why, how society cares about women aging and once they reach a certain age she's saying, um, they sort of become irrelevant, or something like that. So, and I thought that was very interesting, and I think I find this so interesting because you know, potentially what you've given me is something very valuable. You know, by allowing language to sort of shape the way that I see the world, it could be very valuable. But I think the question is is taking action? How do you go out?
Speaker 1:Yes, how do you go out into the world and make something of yourself? I agree, and that's I think, that as you develop, maybe, humility through these types of conversations, I think you're going to ask the right question about how do I age gracefully? And when you start asking those questions, I think that you'll be able to find certain answers that's going to be able to liberate you and give you peace, the internal peace that you're looking for, can you?
Speaker 2:play that thing, the whole lot or nothing thing, the Mr Thing he would.
Speaker 5:but he doesn't feel like it's appropriate. Everything you just said is the most idiotic. Yes, cyrus. So I just want to state what I was stating. Yeah, back to your book, right, yeah? Just remember that piece of paper you signed there, Because if my name ends up in there, your ass is mine bro.
Speaker 2:Don't worry, I'm going to call you Ali Baba in my book. Instead of Ali, we'll call you Ali Baba, if it has any of my catchphrases, the things that I say your ass is mine Good.
Speaker 4:I'm taking your ass to court boy and he has to commit to naming any of his sons.
Speaker 5:Yeah, their last name is going to be Schuster. That's damn right, bro. They're going to have my last name. Your grandkids too. You heard?
Speaker 3:All right. My question is can I go home with a rock that's been licked by Harris? Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 5:Can we authenticate it? He gets a free one.
Speaker 3:What.
Speaker 2:Can we authenticate with the DGI? He's got to lick it three times at least.
Speaker 3:I have an eyeball on this one.
Speaker 4:Wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. We didn't talk about this.
Speaker 5:I'll give him one, if Harris. Wall is a rock right now he gracefully came here, came on the podcast. Okay, let him go home with a souvenir, all right, okay.
Speaker 3:This could be this could be.
Speaker 1:I'm giving you this one and last time listen because remember Harris, when we talked about that all decisions have to go through what through the panel. I understand that you just made an executive decision and you just jumped over us and Mike's
Speaker 4:not even here.
Speaker 1:Ask for the blessing blessing but you have to call Mike now first call Mike then first Okay, call Mike, then you definitely get the full blessing.
Speaker 5:Yeah, right now you want how many percent out of three? Well, it doesn't have to be unanimous, does it?
Speaker 1:All decisions have to be unanimous. All decisions have to be unanimous. Two out of three is what I'm not a doctor.
Speaker 4:I get that. Hey, listen here.
Speaker 5:I'm nuts. Hey, listen here. I got a question for you. So far we got two out of Three yeses. You would be the third. Is it alright with you if I give Joe here A rock with the lizard licks man? Authentication man For free.
Speaker 4:See, he had the same idea.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean as long as we agree, it's an investment into our future relationship.
Speaker 5:This is the lawyer-like guy man.
Speaker 3:Well, people were buying pieces of pizza for one whole Bitcoin back in the day. They didn't know the value of it. I want to take this rock Joe's very smart man, I know he's very smart.
Speaker 1:The good thing is, we have more rocks.
Speaker 3:These rocks will be moving boulders. We'll be building pyramids with these rocks by Harris. That's what I'm hoping to take back to the headquarters and let them see the video and put value into it. Let's get the equity up. Return on investment is the whole idea.
Speaker 1:Sounds like you're serious about it, harry, so I think it's worth the investment on our part.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Mike, Thank you.
Speaker 5:Mike, we'll call you afterwards bud. All right, cool, all right, peace. Okay, you ready? Yeah, thank you, mike. We'll call you afterwards bud. Alright, cool, you ready wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 3:Can I get the DJI close?
Speaker 4:yeah, for sure this thing is awesome all lizards have to get it recorded, right for the rocks.
Speaker 1:I'm going to cut it out, I'm going to only share with Joe so you're going to be shared.
Speaker 3:I'm going to cut it out. I'm going to only share with Joe, oh wow.
Speaker 2:So you're going to end the pod yeah.
Speaker 5:End the pod with a bang. All right, end the podcast with a bang.
Speaker 3:This is going to be the last. Thanks for having me everyone Hold on For sure On Dennis Rocks, Appreciate having the opportunity.
Speaker 5:What opportunity, what? This is the end of the podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no. This is when Dennis Cox begins.
Speaker 5:Bro, I thought we asked everyone's thoughts, man.
Speaker 4:We did Like the closing thoughts.
Speaker 5:That was gratitude. That's stupid man.
Speaker 4:Now we need to go to Pizza Town and have a few pops Pizza Town, you ever have Pizza.
Speaker 5:Town man.
Speaker 3:No, I've never been out here in this neck of the woods.
Speaker 5:Pizza Town man. They're the best man you know you're talking to a new yorker, right? Oh well. Oh so every pizza owner in new jersey got that anyway, okay, well, I'll uh put it to the town has been around. For what do we say? 100 years, just about 100 years.
Speaker 3:All right, california door is awesome soon you're gonna be able to buy a pizza town with that rock Whoa.
Speaker 4:He's thinking big.
Speaker 5:Where the hell is this guy man?
Speaker 4:I don't know, maybe he had to go on a crapper Eldar, what the fuck happened to you man Wow Couch blaster bro. What the fuck have you been eating?
Speaker 5:bro, palestinian food? Oh, that's right, we did have that why?
Speaker 4:what did he say? We're gonna cut that out what's your problem, bro?
Speaker 2:what's that? That's not offensive. What are you taking?
Speaker 5:sides here. I'm not sure Whatever you need to stop being woke boy.
Speaker 4:Okay, alright, this is the first one, the first lizard authenticated rock.
Speaker 2:You can hear his licking thank you very much.
Speaker 3:Wow, wow, that's the reflection of the lights in the background. It's really. You can now really see it.
Speaker 5:Sorry if I got a little tequila on there, man.
Speaker 3:I wanted to air dry for it's smudges, sterilizing it.
Speaker 4:Is there anything I can put this in, so I?
Speaker 3:don't lose. I want it to air dry for its smudges. Is there anything I can put this in?
Speaker 5:So I don't lose the DNA man you know what.
Speaker 1:I actually think that you should leave it here, okay. The reason for that is is because, if this is going to be a continuing relationship that I think that it will be that rock should be going to the next stage, and Harris can explain that obviously.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but then the DNA will come off.
Speaker 1:I think we can give them another one afterwards, right.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so these rocks have several stages. Yeah, the tumbler. They have four different polishes. They have to go through to shine.
Speaker 1:That one only went through the first one and we're waiting for it to go to the next step with finer grit and then in finer grit, and then it's going to go into polished grit and then it's going to actually shine. It's not going to be what you're feeling right now, which is rough still.
Speaker 3:So it's going to be sharp like a diamond, oh yeah, shiny like a diamond. Okay, you want to give it back? I believe in that, yeah so just remember that one.
Speaker 1:That's the one that you wanted, and we can definitely save that one. Oh yeah, Put it in a safe place.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because I have now grown an attachment to it and I'm invested in that rock. Awesome, all right, perfect, sick, I talked about it he said you got to remember I'm from New York.
Speaker 5:I said you got to understand that most pizza owners come from New York.
Speaker 1:All right, we can definitely do that. All right, well, thank you so much for coming. These are our final thoughts.
Speaker 5:And one last Go fuck yourself.
Speaker 3:I just want to say I got the okay from Viral Nation to pay for Pizza Town.
Speaker 1:Really, oh wow, all right, thank you.