Dennis Rox
The 'Dennis Rox' podcast is a deep dive into the intricacies of personal development, self-growth, and the obstacles one may face on the way. Hosted by Eldar with regular guests Mike, Anatoliy, Phillip and Katherine, and Tommy the conversations explore themes such as anxiety, self-sabotage, the pursuit of happiness beyond materialism, and the complexities of love and relationships. Other topics include the impact of societal values on personal fulfillment, humility, and the often misconceived notions of success and wealth.
Through personal stories, philosophical debates, and thoughtful discussions, they explore various aspects of challenging one self and achieving personal growth. The conversation often shifts from individual experiences to broader societal critiques and is characterized by a focus on depth and seeking genuine understanding over superficial conclusions.
Dennis Rox
133. Raising Children in a Media-Driven World
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Navigating the maze of modern parenting is no small feat. Imagine being told that everything you knew about guiding your children is sabotaging their future instead of securing it. Could there be a universally successful method of parenting that breaks the generational cycle of mistakes? In this episode, we get candid about the complexities of parenting, the damage of setting unrealistic expectations, and the importance of preparing kids for the real world. With heartfelt personal stories and deep reflections, we unravel the perennial question: Is there a perfect way to raise our children?
Bullying, marketing influences, and juggling work and parenting – these aren't just buzzwords; they are the daily battles of today's parents. We dig into the responsibilities that parents shoulder, especially when external influences like teachers and school administrators may not always have the answers. As we explore the susceptibility of young minds to media manipulation, the conversation shifts to the strenuous challenge of balancing career ambitions and parental duties. This episode underscores how societal structures can either support or hinder the development of critical thinking skills in kids.
From the emotional turmoil of family dynamics to the philosophical debates on whether military service is a path of honor or a societal trap, our discussion covers a wide spectrum. We share experiences of navigating the fine line between personal fulfillment and societal expectations, addressing the psychological impacts on military personnel, and even debating the future of electric vehicles. With humor, honesty, and a dash of the unexpected, this episode offers a profound look at the intricacies of life, parenting, and personal growth, promising an engaging mix of stories and insights that you won't want to miss.
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On this week's episode. A part of living a happy life you have to give. I think when you have a kid it forces you almost to give as much as you could, and that's like the highest level of actualization.
Speaker 2:The secret of change is to focus all of your energy not on fighting the old, but on building the new. So what the fuck? And that basically tell me not to focus on my dad.
Speaker 1:Paris. This is the fucking drum roll moment. You become the dad.
Speaker 2:What the fuck? Today's topic, as we talked about before, is bad parenting.
Speaker 1:Totally doesn't like this topic, but fuck him because we already discussed this time I don't know what the hell you're talking about yeah, I think, I think, uh, harris has a different spin on it.
Speaker 2:So bad parenting right. Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh, parents.
Speaker 2:I believe we can all agree yeah, uh do not set their kids up for success, okay, in this world. Yeah, right, as we talked about last time. Uh, they tell you can be anything you put your mind to which, let's be honest, isn't is complete and utter bullshit. Someone, someone's like you know this kid would be like yeah, I'm going to be a billionaire and he, you know these people will fucking do everything they can to become this rich fucking person. Guess what? It's most likely never going to fucking happen. Sick Right, you wanted to be a basketball player.
Speaker 2:Look at you now this guy over here. He ain't looking too good man. You still NBA qualified there, bud.
Speaker 1:He's got hoop dreams still, so what's your point, harris?
Speaker 2:My point right is parents don't set the kids up for success. The question I'm wondering is whether this generation or the next generation will ever be able to solve that problem.
Speaker 1:Why did we come up with this question in the first place? Harris, Do you still remember?
Speaker 2:I do, you do. We were talking about my experience with bullying. Right, that's right, all right. Whenever a parent hears that shit, what's the first thing they fucking say?
Speaker 3:I'm going to fucking serve a pipe down Billy's ass for fucking saying that shit to you. Who the hell is this guy talking about?
Speaker 2:Who is this person? You go to the fucking Go tell the teacher. Don't fucking go and tell the teacher, right, don't? I don't want to say it, but don't be a snitch, because that's just going to make your life a hundred times worse. Stand up and do shit. Parents don't set you up for success, right? If you're terrible at basketball, they'll tell you what, oh, you're doing a great job, you did wonderful, you're so good at it. Until you have a coach tell you your ass, you're sitting on the fucking bench, keep it up. Asshole, okay, kiddo, okay, anyway. So this is why I chose the topic. Right, our generation I'm sure a lot of kids younger than us are going to continue experiencing this, right, okay, but the whole question is can this be solved?
Speaker 1:So which part of this whole thing interests you and why?
Speaker 2:Let's put it this way right? My mom told me right, don't listen to me, no that. But she also said you know, growing up she had a horrible household. Yeah, her stepdad not the best, my grandmother not the best. So she said she was going to do things differently. Oh shit, here we go. You always hear this right, my parents did a terrible job. I'm going mother not the best. So she said she was going to do things differently. Oh shit, here we go. You always hear this right, my parents did a terrible job. I'm going to do my own type of parenting. I'm going to do it differently. But no one can ever find the right path, the right path or you know the right things to fucking do. Yeah, because, guess what? Now I'm saying the same thing. When I have kids, I'm going to do fucking something different too. The question is can we ever solve and find the right way of fucking parenting? Because every generation is going to continue saying this I'm going to parent a different way the way I parent it doesn't work.
Speaker 1:So the success would be where your kid grows up and doesn't say the same thing. Doesn't say the same thing, he's not going to say like oh, I'm going to parent differently than Harris did. He's going to say no, like the way my dad brought me up.
Speaker 2:that was really good you need to make sure you open your kid's eyes, even if it's starting at a fucking young age, because if you don't, they're just going to have a hard fucking life.
Speaker 5:Open their eyes to what, in one sense, to the Open their eyes to the fucking world.
Speaker 2:Let them know how it works. Let them know People are fucking cruel, especially in this fucking country. Let them know this. Set them up for success.
Speaker 1:What are some things that you feel like you have failed? Because I remember the conversation that we were having and how you were kind of like, wow, what the fuck. You've come to realize now in your 20s that you fucked up your life. Where did you go wrong?
Speaker 2:Why were you raised the way you were? So, yeah, what gripe do you have? I was focused on the wrong dreams. Number one oh right, uh, stuff that I couldn't do because of certain underlining conditions, oh my good what was that gonna say that you still have, uh, eight-year-old? Legs? Oh, fuck you bro. I ain't got no fucking eight-year-old legs, just my white ass.
Speaker 3:So wait, weren't you a model for pinocchio when you were like younger?
Speaker 2:first of all, I wasn't a model for pinocchio, but yes, I was a child model.
Speaker 1:I actually have some of my uh headshots on my phone okay, you still, you still send those around, because you never, you haven't aged, you did the Benjamin Button, so I was a cute little kid, when I was like six or seven, yeah, and my mom had the brilliant idea to uh, do modeling.
Speaker 2:So my dad and her provided the money and I used to take trips into New York City every weekend to do modeling events.
Speaker 1:Do you?
Speaker 2:remember this, I do.
Speaker 1:What kind of modeling events? You did a runway.
Speaker 2:Well, it was kind of like runway right, I actually also did photos. They'd give me clothes to wear, sunglasses, take photos. I was actually. I landed one magazine. It was in Australia. Have you ever landed a bikini one. Oh, fuck you. The one memorable memory I have Is I did a skit With a comedian A video. I forgot who the fuck it was, but we made fun of a basketball player, that thing. We made fun of a basketball player, that thing.
Speaker 5:We made fun of a basketball player.
Speaker 2:He was having some troubles with the law and shit like that. We did a skit like that. My dad actually says he still has the video somewhere, but my mom said at the time they had no clue what it was about. They said, yeah, he's just going to dress up in a jersey, he's going to interact with this basketball player. Let's just say it was very Well. It was inappropriate for someone my age. Oh my God, the guy was touching you. No, no, it was just. He was sitting on his cursing and insulting, oh OK, someone. That was down on their luck. And for a seven-year-old to be doing that is not very Wow, okay.
Speaker 1:So there you go, parenting yeah.
Speaker 2:Not like I had any choice, right, yeah, like they did. All right, go model. Go on the weekends, you know Could have been hanging out with friends man Did that really go anywhere.
Speaker 3:They were using you like a prostitute.
Speaker 2:No, they were trying to set me up for success, college money, all that shit. Okay.
Speaker 3:And Where's that?
Speaker 2:And the agency fucking screwed us. Of course they did. How'd you know that was going to happen, man? They always said, yeah, the money's going to go to a bank account, it's going to go to college, it's going to go to all this shit. Yeah, perfect. I guess they didn't do the research before they did shit. Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, so yeah, so you're a little bit mad about the way that. I guess maybe you were raised.
Speaker 2:We all discussed that things could have been different, we would do things different. Question I have is will anyone ever fucking get it right to the point where? Do you have a hunch that they will? I don't know, because right now you see it for generations, generations right. It's never been. I guess you could say solved, yeah.
Speaker 1:So why is it important for for parents to be held responsible for how their kids are raised? Why can't they be like, for example, right, Like, even though sure you might be, you know, 26, 27 years old or whatever right, and more so? Now you're kind of open to maybe learning a little bit. And now, sure, maybe your mom dropped the ball, but you know the society is. Or your job, your coworkers, right, your friends might take on that role of parenting now, right, and raising you in such a way where you can figure it out and you can become better. What's wrong with that Like? Why does it have to, like, always land on just parents?
Speaker 2:Well, it doesn't all have to land on the parents, like I said. Yeah, but it would be easier on the child, yeah, if you actually open their eyes a little bit. Okay, the way the world does work, yeah, okay, I would I want to say putting in the effort. Yeah, but if you opened your kids eyes up a little bit, it would make their life a lot easier. Sure, they would still have to find their own way in this wonderful world, okay well, it'd become easier, though, like yeah, like, what are some ways for success for a little bit like, what do I even mean?
Speaker 3:though, how do you?
Speaker 1:give us some examples of what you think that like hey mom, I wish you told me this From my experience.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, two of them. The bullying thing my mom used to say oh, go tell the teacher If someone would have told me what my brother said. Crack back at them, bust their fucking balls back. They'll shut up Like literally they'll be in shock Like holy shit Wait.
Speaker 3:so what did you end up doing?
Speaker 1:I ended up listening to my brother, but it took me years to fucking find a solution. Isn't your brother?
Speaker 3:an extension of your mom. Yeah, like what?
Speaker 2:No, he's a fucking rebel.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but it sounds like nothing would have changed right, Because you did what your.
Speaker 2:What, my what.
Speaker 3:What your brother said right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did what my brother said, but he wasn't taught that from my mom. He's taught that from his own experience.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but what's different? She's still got the information.
Speaker 2:But if I would have known it earlier, life would have been easier. Ah, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, so let's take your mom. Let me try to play a little bit of devil's advocate here. No-transcript School is an institution where we send our children to do what Learn, To learn right, To progress, to mature, to understand right. And here you are right. Here you are getting bullied, You're getting bullied, right. So what's happening is that you have an interruption of service. Instead of learning, you're thinking about the. Obviously is like hey, the person who's supposed to oversee this?
Speaker 2:situation of learning is the teacher.
Speaker 1:So, hey, harris, what we need to do is we need to tell the teacher that there's an interruption of service here, that this guy is bullying you and you need a little bit of help. So, harris, what was wrong with her advice?
Speaker 2:It doesn't fucking work. It just makes it literally 100 times worse. See, it doesn't work, right.
Speaker 1:The thing is like, I'm not sure if I'm ready to say that, Well, let's put it this way.
Speaker 2:I've done it. Okay, how'd you do it? I did it once On my own, went up to the the teacher and what'd you say? Fucking sixth grade went up to the teacher. I told her what was happening. How'd you do it? I'm the teacher. Tell me so after class hey, harris, how are you? Behind. I fucking did this. I was like hey, can you can you reenact this for me.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not but, I said, hey, this kid's picking on me, this, this and this. They called the kid in like they called his parents in yeah, all nine yards. They did the whole thing. He was suspended for about a fucking day. He came back and it was a hundred times worse. He was pissed and he took revenge on Okay, did you what's called? Did you tell the teacher again? And he took revenge on Okay, did you what's it called? Did you tell the teacher again? No, I learned my fucking lesson. Don't fucking involve the teacher.
Speaker 3:So what would happen if you would have told the teacher again?
Speaker 2:He would have gotten in more trouble and he would have gotten even more revenge. Okay, and then if you told the teacher again Again, Now they're going to send this kid to Bergen Regional right. He's send.
Speaker 3:This guy thinks they'll send him to Bergen region.
Speaker 1:Yes, they would if you keep raising your hand and saying hey guys like this guy is a weirdo and he keeps bullying me.
Speaker 2:I've seen kids do that yeah, but you haven't seen people actually file complaints about them.
Speaker 3:You can't do that like you're. What do you expect me to do? Yeah, what do you expect me to do?
Speaker 2:run. Yeah, what do you expect me to do? Run to Louie like yo. This kid's fucking bothering me yeah, I mean you're being harassed.
Speaker 1:Why not? You're trying to. You come to the institutions of schooling, you're trying to learn and there is interruption happening. Somebody is not letting you learn because you're worried about what's happening. The people around the establishment, who are the teachers? There's a principal right. There's the dean, there's no, dean.
Speaker 2:There's a president, there's a principal and vice principal. Superintendent Dean, what the fuck kind of school did you go to?
Speaker 1:I had a dean.
Speaker 2:College Whatever, vice president and president, in high school they had a dean College Vice president and president.
Speaker 1:They had in high school. They had also nurses, Guidance counselors, Guidance counselors. Thank you, Mike. They had lunch late. They had all this staff, all this establishment that is happening Right. That's supposed to control the environment in such a way where kids actually come here to learn.
Speaker 2:Fairlawn schools weren't that fucking bad. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1:Well, look man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like if you keep doing that, there's like a certain point where, like, if he makes it worse, then you continue to report him and his punishment gets continuously worse. And if he's an idiot and he has terrible parents or like whatever right.
Speaker 1:Well, maybe that's exactly what he needs.
Speaker 3:He may need to go and get some help and he may not be a fit for a school like this, like you have in Fairlawn, because he might be gay.
Speaker 2:What is wrong. So let's put it this way, right? The end result is I'm going to say it like last time was to learn how to grow a pair of balls and stand up to the fucking kid. Sure, it led to a fist fight. Sure, it sounds like you right.
Speaker 1:You and maybe that's what we, if we really track back to see what happens is that you were more busy about learning how to grow a pair of balls versus learning some stuff, learning what, learning to learn, or learning stuff in school right. We graduated. And where'd you end up? In the shelter? Covid hit.
Speaker 3:Everyone graduates.
Speaker 2:COVID hit. I wasn't the only one it caused, bro, Okay fine.
Speaker 1:Everyone that had COVID or COVID hit went to shelter.
Speaker 2:Fuck you, bro Okay.
Speaker 3:What percent of kids that go to like to schooling in fairlawn end up in a shelter?
Speaker 2:I didn't go to school especially when I didn't go to schooling in fairlawn. When I hit high school I was sent out of district by fairlawn. Thank you, john schuster. Yeah, he went to fairlawn high school and they said nope, and they sent him to a private school harris, we're just trying to play a little bit of devil's advocate.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well right, well well teacher doesn't help man.
Speaker 1:No, I think that a teacher can be leveraged in such a way where it could be a resource of help. However, maybe your mom didn't explain to you thoroughly or properly. Right To say like, hey, Harris, like these individuals around here, right, they're actually here to protect you, to help you and try to make you grow and learn. Instead, you kind of had to fend for yourself and I'm not saying that's bad either If you had no more resources and if you really needed to do what you needed to do. I think that you need to learn either the fight, punch back or whatever it is right. But I think that's more like last resort, Like that's very primitive, that here you are now have to fear for your safety versus actually be learning and growing. You know what I'm saying. So what's the problem here with this example? Has his mom just didn't know how to properly guide her son in order to get the proper help?
Speaker 2:I think there's a lot of problems, man, I'm sure you have some stories about your childhood.
Speaker 1:I definitely do, harris, but I'm saying we're trying to digest your example right here. Right, what's actually the issue here? And if we track back, I think that maybe your mom wasn't ready to properly guide you in order to communicate some of the problems that we're having.
Speaker 2:Or maybe she didn't take it very seriously. Should I talk about, like the second example, right, what you got? We talked about it last week. From when I was a kid, I always wanted to join the military, but no one told me, apparent-wise, that I couldn't because I had mental health. John was the one that fucking broke it to me, but I didn't want to hear it. I listened, I could be what I want to be. Went to the fucking recruiter station, the Marines. They said hell. No, get this kid out of here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they they said hell, no. And then I went get this kid out of here. Yeah, they said, we're not putting a fucking gun in your hands. Then I went to the army recruiting station. Of course they told me to lie. My friend advised me not to do it, because they look up description records.
Speaker 1:And you took your friend's advice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I took my friend's advice because he knows he was at like the last point where they didn't check it. Yeah, because he had bipolar Still does, yeah. But I'm glad I did listen to him. Why would he? Okay, I'm glad I did listen to his voice because when he got out, came back all fucked up Mental health, made it worse completely, the PTSD, the fucking shit he saw. Who cares? I'm just saying, man, I'm glad I listened to him.
Speaker 3:At least he lived out his dream. He's still living, dude, yeah.
Speaker 1:Move it towards you the other way. Thank you Like that yeah. Keep moving man, leave it, don't touch it. Hee, hee yeah.
Speaker 2:So what are you saying? Are you saying anything? I'm saying, I wasn't. I was told all this bullshit. You can be what you want to be yeah which is complete bullshit. You might have limitations. You might not be good enough. Yeah, you know, you set up hopes for this fucking kid, just to have him fucking crash down totally.
Speaker 1:How can you help us with this dilemma that Harris is having?
Speaker 2:he can't look at him so is the question correct?
Speaker 3:when did you have a desire to be in the military? What fucking age what age? Probably about 10 dude, maybe 8 even yeah, like, I don't even know what that means. What like, at 8, you're like 1 in 5 days shitting your pants like 10 years old. Yeah, like, how, like, how could that be a dream to go to the military, you see? What I mean?
Speaker 2:you started out with legos and things like that. Watch out from starting dreams like, like bs it started from watching, of course, military movies, of course, and then it evolves. You look at videos. You see these people in these nice uniforms over there doing awesome shit.
Speaker 3:What's awesome shit?
Speaker 2:Serving your country, keeping the, at the time the terrorists at bay. Keeping the terrorists at bay. Yeah, you know, I grew up watching Saving Private Ryan and typical Black Hawk Down. What typical, what marketing.
Speaker 1:Black Hawk Down. Do you think that kids that age 10 years old, 12 years old, whatever more susceptible to marketing than others? That's why they do it. They got you early right.
Speaker 2:Who do you think pays the money coming into? The theaters. Who do you think sneaking in those movies when you put rated R on the fucking thing? Yeah.
Speaker 1:Impressionable young kids watching these nice movies glorifying heroes and military and army and all this other stuff. Just to do what right Go over there? Lose a leg, lose an arm, lose a head. Take a long nap.
Speaker 2:It doesn't always happen like that, bro. Okay, I need someone that's been in for 25 years.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And he's completely whole, okay, sure.
Speaker 5:What you're saying is and I agree.
Speaker 2:And he's completely whole, okay, sure.
Speaker 5:I'm pretty sure what you're saying is and I agree, but how does the kid get these faculties that you're describing to think for themselves, to not be susceptible to marketing right?
Speaker 2:Don't watch anything.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, I think again we're're gonna go back to parenting.
Speaker 3:I think, uh, the parents have to do a very, very careful job at answering certain questions right, explaining certain things, guiding them through certain hard situations, like harris was going through when it came to bullying, and stuff like that, you know yeah, I mean we, we we went over this last time when we were talking about this that um, like I, I don't see in the way that um life is for, uh, let's say, if we talk about, like, um, our country, where we live in, right, uh, to be specific, right the way that like the, the uh economy is and how things work, um, I don't see how having kids and being good parents and like doing all that like I, I, I like the math, does the math here?
Speaker 3:For because one life is extremely expensive in like a lot of places, like in america, right, and um, in very rare types of scenarios, do you have parents that like have the time that it takes to actually parent? Uh, oh, let's go like a child, like there's the phase when they're like really tiny and they're like super cute, but but they require like a lot of energy, right, and you kind of, you know, get poor sleep or like you do this, you do that, like you look at every single second of like their life, right, like you're just extremely like, uh, like, uh, consumed with that.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:Right, but that kind of level of attention is only short-lived, because you need to provide. You have jobs to do, you have your own things that you want to do, and then what ends up happening is that you end up leveraging society to pawn off the child that you created so that you can live your own life.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:And you do daycares, you maybe ask people to watch them. Like you throw them into the school system, you get them a tablet. You you get them to watch particular shows, you get them a computer, you do whatever it takes to kind of get them off your case so that you can have some, some sliver of life. But if you don't for example, it's like if you're working and like, let's say, a combination of working and commuting for 10 hours, I mean yeah, like 10 hours a day, like all in right, which I think is very normal, like in today's society let's just say it's 10 hours and then you sleep for a very small amount of time. Let's just say it's 10 hours and then you sleep for a very small amount of time. Let's just say it's 6 hours, that's 16 hours, and then you have 8 hours. That might not even overlap time wise with what little Timmy is with you, right?
Speaker 4:yeah, it's like what time do you have and what time do they have?
Speaker 3:when is all this teaching or sharing like done? The kid is just pawned off.
Speaker 2:So hold up. He's basically saying that parents can't teach their kids good enough because they're working. Is that what he's saying?
Speaker 1:He's saying that the society and the structure of how the society is set up. Right now it is very difficult to find the proper time to devote to raise a good kid. No, okay, what do you mean? No, he's actually agreeing with some of the stuff that you've been saying.
Speaker 2:that look, you know like they can still parent when, okay, kid comes home from school, stuff that you've been saying that look, you know like they, they can still parent when, okay, kid comes home from school and you come home a couple hours later wait, what do you mean?
Speaker 3:a couple of hours later, school finishes at 2 30 no, it does not.
Speaker 2:Dude what grade high school 225. Oh, high school, okay, okay, let's talk elementary school. Let's talk elementary yeah, let's talk elementary. Yeah, 3 o'clock.
Speaker 3:Okay, that's a half an hour later.
Speaker 2:People come. What 5? Home 5 o'clock, parents don't come home 5.
Speaker 1:They probably come at 6.
Speaker 3:The 9 to 5 is dead man.
Speaker 1:They come probably 6 o'clock right 6.30. Then they have to make dinner.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they have dinner right. You sit down at the table, you're done. You sit down at the table. You ask him how your day was. If something happened at school, you fucking bring it up.
Speaker 3:Okay, you have like an hour, hour and a half before you have to like like, Get ready, yeah, relax, unwind yourself. Yeah, relax, unwind yourself. Cook, cook dinner, do house chores Like do laundry, like clean some stuff up. Like you, you have relatively no time for yourself. You're extremely tired because you get low sleep regardless, so you're extremely stressed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when do you get old? That's an example, right?
Speaker 3:And what, what like high earners in today's society. Again like, even at like six. Six is like like to get to get home at six.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's a yeah, that's, that's a fucking, unless you're starting at like 7 am, you know, or something like that, and then you're yeah. Then you're like to have a normal life, like if you're starting work at like 7 am. That means like, for example, if you're like a mom, you're waking up probably like 5 30 in the morning, right to get five.
Speaker 1:Are you kidding me, girls?
Speaker 3:that means that you're going to bed at like 9pm right. To get somewhere near a normal life.
Speaker 2:Let's use my mom as an example, right?
Speaker 1:Let's use your mom Sure Okay.
Speaker 2:My mom okay would take care of us when our bed timer came around right, it'd be like 10 o'clock. I always remembered my mom was a fucking night owl. She'd be up until 1, 2 o'clock in the morning doing her own thing and then she'd go to bed. Wake up Time. We're getting up to go to school. Send us off. She was up until 2 o'clock in the morning, but you didn't say anything just now. What. She had the time to herself, man, she made it what do you mean made it?
Speaker 1:Your mom, is in ruins. She's done it all wrong. You said yeah, but so fuck?
Speaker 2:This is not a good example of parenting.
Speaker 1:You also came from a fucking, you know a broken household.
Speaker 2:I think something sure.
Speaker 1:Like there's no way you can bring any type of examples to say that your mom actually did it right.
Speaker 2:No, she didn't do it right. Well, let's just do this. I'm sure there was something she could have changed.
Speaker 1:Your mom did the best that she could, yeah, and I think all our parents here did the best that she could, yeah, and I think all our parents here did the best that they could. So, getting back to it, you know what I'm saying Because me and Mike were fucking. We were bad kids in high school. You know what I'm saying? I was a bad kid.
Speaker 1:Drinking in school, smoking, all this shit. You know what I mean. Like cutting class Right, Like quote unquote, that's bad, you know Like why? Well, because my parents had to work two jobs. His parents were working, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:So we just fucking did our own thing Like how do you immigrate to another country?
Speaker 1:try to learn the language and establish yourself while raising kids. These are impossible tasks. Yeah, it's very hard. So what happens is right, then society or life does its trick on us. Right and right now, you came in here right with all the things, the package, the baggage that you brought us with, and now we're unpacking this baggage like, oh harris, what do you have in that suitcase? Oh, this is funny, oh, this is crazy. This is completely fake news. This is idiotic. This we can keep this. You know what I mean? And we're finding out that there's a lot of things that your parents right missed, and that's what we're talking about here. How do we get it right?
Speaker 2:You just gave us the answer.
Speaker 1:You can't Well, no no, no, in this economy, that's basically what you're saying. Well, no, totally brought that argument that economy doesn't actually help it as well. Because, you know, brought that argument that economy doesn't actually help it as well.
Speaker 2:because you know, so maybe we should all move to Afghanistan well, no, I think it starts with again maybe it's grassroot here, at least whatever.
Speaker 1:But what are we trying to do here, right? Are we trying to at least for us maybe do things in such a way where we're able to buy ourselves time so we can think and what you're doing right now, despite of what your dad is telling you right at home, saying that, harris, you're not supposed to enjoy your job, you're like yo dad, I'm actually enjoying this, I'm learning stuff, I want to apply stuff and I want to get paid for it and I want to be good at it. He's like wait what this is wrong for it, and I want to be good at it. He's like wait what this is wrong. What you're doing right now, with the help of us here, right, is trying to actualize yourself so you can follow your passion. By following your passion, you can potentially become successful, especially in the realm of money and when you solve your money problem. Finally, you can buy time. So then in the future, for example, you can buy your wife's time, who can stay at home and raise the kids.
Speaker 2:And hold resentment to you for ruining her career. Okay, I mean seriously. What's wrong with?
Speaker 1:you. You think that you're going to bring any type of example here that you have, you know, carried with you for a very long time and we're not going to be able to answer Let me think for a minute.
Speaker 5:Hit the vape one more time.
Speaker 2:Did you understand my question or not? I did. I'm going to come up with something because you can't answer everything.
Speaker 1:Harris, there's nothing that you can't come up with right now, man. Your mind doesn't have that ability, totally believes what I just said and he agrees with me.
Speaker 3:You have two left feet.
Speaker 2:I don't have two left feet and you have six fingers on your hands. Fuck you man.
Speaker 1:He's an amphibian, bro, oh what the fuck man?
Speaker 2:You're a tadpole bro Fuck. What the fuck man, you're a tadpole, bro Fuck you.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. I was going to ask another Do you think that you like, do you think that you have to have kids? Have to have kids? Yeah, For what? So can you have like a good loving relationship and everything and not have kids like that? That's completely fine. Am I in?
Speaker 1:one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, no, but I'm saying is that like some higher level to have them, or it's completely fine not to I?
Speaker 1:think it's okay not to have them, but I think it's part of who we are To have them To have them.
Speaker 1:I mean, we fit pretty well with women, men with women fit pretty well, it's a thing and it happens that we continue to draw to be there. You know what I'm saying. When you have a wife, when you fall in love, you're going to want to have keep making love to her. Yeah, like nonstop and organically. You're not going to want to fucking put on a condom. What's going to happen is you're going to come in her and she's going to organically get pregnant one day.
Speaker 2:Unless you get a vasectomy, that's disgusting.
Speaker 1:What the fuck is that man? That's some gay shit that you could have ever said. What I'm saying is that if you're living a natural life, if the shit, the design is the way the design is, she will get pregnant.
Speaker 3:It's inevitable. No, for sure.
Speaker 3:yeah, Unless you're doing some calculated shit like he's talking about yeah, yeah, no, I was only asking because I was listening to a podcast just recently with John Cena. I was listening to a podcast just recently with John Cena and he decided a long time ago that he does not want to have kids and his reasoning, I guess, is more like he really enjoys his life and he's like I know that I won't be able to devote the amount of time or be the type of parent required to raise a good kid, oh wow so I don't want to be honest well, listen, that's honest.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but he says that like he, like he feels that like he. I think that's very selfish yeah, he, he said that, he said, he said that like I, like, I kind of more want to selfishly live for myself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, yeah, I see I have a different take on that yeah, some news.
Speaker 2:I think that you cannot be.
Speaker 1:Before you say something stupid, I'm going to say that you cannot live a happy life selfishly.
Speaker 3:You just cannot but can you do other things?
Speaker 1:part of living a happy life you have to give non-stop. Probably that's where you actualize yourself. And part, I think a part of living a happy life you have to give nonstop. Probably that's where you actualize yourself. Okay, and part of you know, like you know, I think, growing a kid, like you know, like I'm responsible for dogs, Like I have to give to them for them to be happy, obviously you know what I mean. Like when I do that, I think I actualize myself and I become better as a better person to everyone. But I think when you have a kid, it forces you almost to give as much as you could and that's like the highest level of actualization, but it's very hard yeah, yeah, you're talking about john cena and all this, right?
Speaker 2:no, we're not. So let me, let me put it this way did you watch any of his older videos or read a little bit about that, about what I followed John Cena since I was a kid? Okay, he was one selfish son of a bitch, with his previous relationship with a woman he was engaged to.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, I know that they broke up because he was not willing to have kids.
Speaker 2:Well, no, he put it like this Okay, he said, if you want me to, I can undo my vasectomy and give you a kit. She broke it off because her response is I don't want you to regret having kids. He's very selfish. He went on. They did it for like fucking 10 years. He never told her he didn't want to have kids until like the last three years. Yeah, that's something you say.
Speaker 3:On the second, third date Like hey, I don't want kids, that's his fault. They never had that conversation.
Speaker 2:But if you know you don't want kids, you got a woman here that there's a good chance she's going to want kids. That's selfish. You do it on the third, fourth date If she wants kids.
Speaker 3:You don't share the same values. I mean if you're seven years in and you don't talk about that like that's a problem.
Speaker 2:That's just kind of you know you're with a woman. Most women right want to experience yeah, having a child well, see that okay no, I was.
Speaker 3:I was just gonna say that, like sure, a lot of people do, but I don't think a lot of people understand what the fuck is going on what they're saying or what they're getting into. They just kind of blindly want to, same way as you want to be in the yes like the military I have, yeah, I have a problem with the word want.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like it's it's the same again. Oh, I want a white picket fence and I want a little timmy and a little alice. You know what the fuck like? Uh, yeah, I just want to have a nice garden and kids running around. I want to mow the lawn. Yeah, people do have these little pipe trees or desires that kind of stem from what others say or being marketed to in particular ways. They don't actually know what the fuck they're saying.
Speaker 2:I get that. My dad used to say oh, I used to always want to buy one of those lawnmowers. Right, have a beer while doing it. Right, mow his lawn. Okay, we had this big property on Parmalee that was a two-family home and we mowed this big property Two weeks into it. He's like I can't keep fucking doing this. He bought a fucking push mower. Yeah, if you want to have a beer while mowing the lawn, you buy a fucking riding mower. He gave it up.
Speaker 1:He's like man, this is some bullshit, you see you just proved Tully's point A lot of the times right. Your dad watched the Lucky Strike fucking commercial with the lawnmower and the cigarettes you know what I mean Like and he wanted that image as soon as he got that image.
Speaker 2:He's like what the fuck the neighbor? The neighbor said that's called marketing the neighbor said it's an illusion, it's a mirage. I remember he said the neighbor said are you ready to give it up? I got a guy that's it.
Speaker 3:A lot of your wants and like a desire stem from you looking at someone that is in like a desire stem from you looking at someone that is in like a movie or something that's artificially enjoying himself in a particular scene that he's being paid to act like he's enjoying himself, to even feel a certain type of way With particular angles, capturing the sounds of birds and bees and the sun pointing a particular way, and like grass and flowers being pointing a particular way, and grass and flowers being grown in particular ways and you think, if you just insert your dumb ass into that fucking image, that you're going to be this fucking happy-go-lucky fucking person.
Speaker 2:So you guys are saying I want to join the military right Because I saw these cool uniforms.
Speaker 1:You don't want to join the military, my man.
Speaker 2:When I did, because I saw these cool uniforms you don't want to join the military. When I did, because I saw these cool uniforms and I wanted to be a hero. You think that you're going to?
Speaker 3:feel some type of way about it what? Happens is that you can put yourself in that position to maybe do all that and you feel fucking nothing because you can't artificially. You can't artificially feel what you saw artificially happen on TV. That's impossible.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's a fucking, it's a mirage. Yeah, my friend's saying the same thing. It's a good thing you didn't join the military. I came back there you go it's not what it seems. I came back all fucked up and my government doesn't take care of me. That's right.
Speaker 1:Why? Because the government has an agenda that it's pushing and it needs bodies, and you guys, the ones that are easy to market, to happen to be very easy prey and you will lay down for this cause, quote, unquote, in order to get the agenda pushed and the governments and the people that are in power understand this and know this.
Speaker 2:See it's fucked up.
Speaker 1:You understand, I get it Because you have a brain of a squirrel the size of a squirrel.
Speaker 2:Fuck you, fuck you. Yes, I get it, because you have a brain of a squirrel, the size of a squirrel.
Speaker 1:Fuck you. All right, fuck you. Yes, I get it, but if you really track it all back, it's because your parents probably had the same size brain as a squirrel, and it goes on and on and on Coming into this type of space. What we're trying to do expand your brain a little bit so you can be like wait a second, I have choice. I have the ability to choose how my destiny plays out. I want to have skills. I want to write out my own history. I don't have to be somebody else telling me what to do and how to do it. I want to do it myself and I enjoy myself. Hopefully we can get you to that place. All right, yeah, think before you fucking say some kind of nonsense. Hey, you want wanna do me a favor? Fuck?
Speaker 2:off. Yo keep mimicking boy. This foot right here, it's gonna go somewhere. The sun don't shine, nice.
Speaker 1:I know, you can.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's so good at this right, bro, I'm gonna give you some news, man, okay.
Speaker 1:Don't tell him you love him. Come on, man, this shit right here, bro, I'm going to give you some news, man.
Speaker 2:Okay, don't tell him. You love him. Come on, man, this shit right here. Right, about not wanting to have kids. We all know it's okay. Yeah, you're in the closet, that's all right. You just gave us another hint, yeah, no.
Speaker 1:There's another point about wanting kids. The word want from anybody's perspective perspective, I think is a very dangerous word you know what I'm saying, so it's just like trust me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's what you're saying it's not necessarily um a good place to be in order to really actually so, instead of saying want what I'll have, the thing is like what are you going to replace?
Speaker 1:One thing is creating a desire, and we've already identified, if you listen to previous podcasts, which you don't. The desires lead to suffering, okay, and attachment, those lead to more suffering and it continues until we let go of them. So wanting something creates a very perpetual cycle of suffering. So, letting go of the wants, right. If things happen, okay great. If they don't, okay great. You kind of go with the flow.
Speaker 2:So, just like they say in the videos that I watched don't give a shit about the outcome, don't care about it. There you go, sales with that. Hey, if I die tomorrow, no problem. Yeah, if I walk out on the street I get hit by a bus. Fuck it. Yeah okay, right, no, we're not saying what you're saying.
Speaker 1:No, what we're saying is that certain things you can't control, you should control. Like not get hit by a bus, right, you shouldn't step in when the bus is going.
Speaker 2:You should control that Well, I mean anyone should have a bright mind, like that, but a little bit harder outcomes to be able to control.
Speaker 1:You know, I think you should be careful of those outcomes, or those wants or desires, because they can lead you astray, right? Yeah? So parenting Harris. So fuck, stray, right? Yeah? So parenting harris.
Speaker 1:So you had, you have a problem with parenting. Do you think we can figure it out? Should it be figured out even after what you've heard, or should it be this way? Because if your mom did a fucked up job on you, well, guess what? Maybe she needed to do a fucked up job in order to learn, in order now for you to call her and be like hey, ma, guess what that thing you told me about that? That's fake news. I already did that twice, you already did it twice, and I think that you need to do it 2,000 times, to be honest, in order to break those chains of certain things that she's installed in you, right, in order to be ending up at 27 years old and then feeling a certain type of way saying I'm a failure, I didn't accomplish anything. I'm a failure, I didn't accomplish anything, I'm not 27. What the fuck is wrong with me? 25, 26, no, 25, 26.
Speaker 2:I know exactly how old you are, I'm 26, I know 26, 26, I'm not almost 30 yet relax, okay, relax. You're the ones having regrets, not me. If I was 30, I'd probably be like, if I can shoot, and shoot me now, motherfuckers.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised Tommy's still kicking like that. Yeah, you feel bad for him, bro. He's what 35?.
Speaker 1:I think he's 36 now. Jesus Christ, you got 10 years on you. Yeah, you'll be in a better place than Tommy in 10 years. Oh, yeah, I think he needs to. The jury is still out on that you know that right, I think Tommy needs to.
Speaker 2:Tommy, if you're listening to this, go call that Apple job, start somewhere, get a job, work, get your money. Alright, totally, you wanted to share a topic.
Speaker 1:Man, alright did we solve your problem with parenting. We did yeah, so what's the answer?
Speaker 2:should it be solved? Everyone needs to try their own way at parenting. I believe if it works, it works if it doesn't let the world handle everything, wow that's a crazy conclusion.
Speaker 1:It is what it is. All you can do is try your best. And that's a crazy conclusion. It is what it is, all you can do is try your best and that's it. I think the best case scenario is that you should try your best, but also allow the world to lend you a hand, because the world will, because you know the reality in life will say kids like arrested for murder, right, they always blame it on the parents.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying they always blame it on the parents. I'm just saying they always blame it on the parents, like, oh, they could have done a better job, you know they tried their best. Like the way they thought, mm-hmm, you know it didn't work out so well. Okay, life has a way of throwing shit at you and just kind of, like you said, roll with the punches.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, I'm glad you're okay with the topic now.
Speaker 2:Okay, totally, you wanted to talk about something, totally. Still another fucking thing from another podcast.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was listening to another podcast. Okay, you know. Yeah, it was a sports one, but they were just one of the guys had a line and it went something like he was saying that in today's age people are so used to others around them, either, like you know, like lying to them or not being honest with them, which I guess I mean Sort of like when we're talking about the parents thing, right when Harris' mom kept saying that he can do this, he can do that.
Speaker 1:Look at him now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, a lot of people have like their inner circle or people around them that either not not honest with like on like not honest with them in some ways, I guess lying to them, or or that might be like the same sugar coating shit, sugar coating, white lies right, yeah, white lies or um, yeah, like, yeah, like doing any of that that when people hear the truth, right? He said that in today's age it sounds like hate. In today's age, the truth is interpreted as hate.
Speaker 1:Okay, so what do you think about that first? First of all, that point.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, I think it's true in some sense where it's like yeah and again. We've even grown a custom in society where a common like is like hey, I'm gonna be honest with you, but you're not gonna like it, like what the fuck does that mean? Yeah like how is that normalized?
Speaker 1:everybody pre-faces like yo, you're such a beautiful person, like you know, they start like yeah softening up the blow, or or like someone's like, if you'd like.
Speaker 3:I can be honest with you yo, I just heard this whole thing on the fucking radio station z100 yeah, or or it's like people, people just old the time. A very like common thing is to like preface things right, to say, hey, if you want I could be honest with you. What? Yeah, no, I'd actually prefer. If you want I can be honest with you, what? Yeah, no, I'd actually prefer. If you just lied to me, yeah, like what does?
Speaker 3:that even mean yeah, like, if you want, I can be honest, like, hey, I'm going to be hey, um, the truth hurts where it's like we've normalized, yeah, that like the. The truth is one a bad thing, and the truth is more of an attack nowadays than an opportunity for growth or for learning. Yeah, that, that that's where it is. That like being honest with somebody or being truthful is more viewed as like again, like you're being a bad person or you're hating, or you're like weaponizing something. Right, yeah, versus like you're telling someone something, like how something is, which is like, okay, this is what is and I'm telling you what is, yeah, and somehow this is like you hating, or you being an asshole, or you being mean, maybe you're bullying or you're yeah, or you're like bullying right, or any of those kinds of things, and we just have a bunch of people in society that have a huge problem with the truth.
Speaker 3:So lots of things are set up in very particular ways to keep people as far as possible away from the truth. As far as possible away from the truth, and that's more normal than again being honest with somebody or being, um, truthful. So now and days, if you are going to be honest with somebody, a very common thing again is to preface things with saying, hey, this is gonna hurt, but this right, or like this is kind of gonna be painful, but but this. Or like I know you don't want to hear this, but that. And like I've definitely been on the reverse end of things, where it's like you know where I've definitely gotten like hate or like a.
Speaker 1:I think that we're going to have to talk about thick skin, right, and I think we talked about it last time. You talked about it it was very important, Harris, and obviously you developed thick skin and Harris has some of it.
Speaker 2:Oh, fuck you man.
Speaker 1:I'm not talking about the fact that you're fat.
Speaker 2:I understand that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, it definitely happens with me and Harris. All the time I could tell him something that's truthful yeah Right. And the time, yeah, I could tell him something that's like a truthful yeah right, and to him it sounds bad. So because it sounds bad, it's more like it could be viewed as like an attack or like yeah, being like mean or like not supportive or like like calling something for what it is again is oftentimes like a look down upon a bad thing so?
Speaker 1:so what do you? So what's your question or what's your problem?
Speaker 3:I mean, it sounds like a perfectly normal equation well, yeah, I guess maybe my question is more around like, why did like? Like one, I guess how do we get to this place? Two, why did we get to this place? And then three, like how does society as a whole get out of it, if that's important to get out of it or to strive towards getting out of it?
Speaker 1:I think it's probably definitely beneficial for society to get out of it as soon as possible.
Speaker 3:Let's discuss the first one. Which one is that? So I wrote, uh, I mean sorry, I, I I said, um, why did we get into this place? How did we get into this place? And then should we aim to get out of it, or how? Or like, how do we get out of it, you know? So why? Why did we get to this? Okay, so, and and how.
Speaker 1:Here's my take, I think why did we get into this place? I I think that the reason why we got into this place is because now we have a contrast between what might be the right way of doing things versus the wrong way, and the contrast is so polar opposite that now we recognize those individuals who are thinking, who are paying attention, attention, have the ability to see this big contrast between the two. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3:no, no, but how does that answer why? Why are you here?
Speaker 1:we hear why? No, it answers. Why is because now we actually pay attention to what's going on. No, no, what's the question.
Speaker 3:No, I'm saying when, when, when I say why, so my, my, my, uh, three, I guess, questions that I was curious about, like, uh, like, looking into, like. So so what we're talking about is that the truth is more looked upon as like a form of hate. Yeah, I heard that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and all that right. So my question is one, like why did we as a society get into this place? How did we get into this place, and is it important to strive to get it out of that kind of place? So, like when, when, when I'm saying like wilder, I'm saying like um, like as a society, like not, why are we noticing it happening? Oh, like I'm saying why is? Why is we as a society and let's just talk about the united states, right, okay, because it's easier like why is the united states a place where, like, this type of stuff, like like this is where we're at in society?
Speaker 5:but how?
Speaker 1:do you know this? Yeah, how do you know that we are?
Speaker 5:actually in this society like yeah, across the board everybody's like yeah.
Speaker 1:Is it affecting you in your life, and and from what? From which angle?
Speaker 3:from where, well like I guess just based on observations. I mean like, yeah, but the observations are pretty obvious. It's like it's a, it's a completely normal. From which angle and from where? Well, I?
Speaker 1:guess just based on observations. Yeah, but the observations are pretty obvious. It's a completely normal phenomenon where you let's just say as an enlightened being on the subject matter, whatever that subject is coming to an individual and challenge them of their ignorance and that individual is barking back at you. I think that's an equation that stands forever.
Speaker 3:No, what I'm saying is that how did it happen where people were like the actual truth itself is not the normal standard thing, for example, where it's like a far removed thing.
Speaker 1:I think the truth has to always Everyone experienced this.
Speaker 5:No, but what you're saying is like when did we go wrong? 10 million years ago, well.
Speaker 3:I'm curious, like what happened in society to go down where it progressed to where we're at now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but Adam and Eve ate the apple.
Speaker 5:What Adam and Eve ate the apple. Okay, and that's why we're here where we are, Like. That question is hard to answer. When did people become like not living in accordance? The truth is what you're asking.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm asking what qualities or what events happened in the world that led to this happening.
Speaker 1:I think it's a perfect. Like I said, it's a normal equation. The reason why it's probably amplified right now is because of social media and the connection that internet provides us with.
Speaker 3:For example, if we go to primitive times, there was a point where we had very low what like very low mind functionality. Right, because we were like the primitive version of you humans, like the uh, what, what were they called? Like the troggs and all like the fucking yeah the other dolls yeah like the other dolls right, and then, like, some of us got stuck in them, but fuck you, man.
Speaker 3:But but others like, um, we like progress a little bit, like, like, uh, mentally right, okay, and um, um, I'm saying, was it like, for example, like, like, maybe one answer could be like societal pressures for like income or like greed or like um, like what particular things led to people being like this and acting like this, like well, what if I told you that it's?
Speaker 1:it's a perfectly normal evolutionary process that is happening in front of your eyes.
Speaker 3:What? The act of being ignorant?
Speaker 1:Yeah, the fact that some people are more ignorant than others based on, obviously, where they came from and how they grew up and economical status and social status.
Speaker 3:Okay, so that's what.
Speaker 1:I'm asking there's a lot of variables.
Speaker 3:Did these things happen and start to play out with particular generations of people because of economics, status or because of what? What happens to?
Speaker 1:create this. Like I said, I think it's a lot of variables, but I think it's been going on on smaller levels all the time, All the time it's just you're seeing it more magnified All the time.
Speaker 3:It's just, you're seeing it more magnified.
Speaker 1:So in all of existence, all of existence, I think, yeah, of the same stuff, doesn't Socrates? Doesn't Socrates talk about the same stuff we talk about? I mean, yeah, socrates talks about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he got tried for fucking corrupting the youth. And what was he doing? He was asking the youth. He was going around the fucking market and saying, hey, why do you do what you do? And next thing, you know, the kid stops doing what he's doing. He's like wait a second. Yeah, you're right, like I'm not happy, I don't know what I'm doing. What the fuck is this? Yeah, you know, he starts pondering about life and starts to. You know, concentrate.
Speaker 3:His mindset is that like why did people, for example, back then, if that's how far we're going?
Speaker 1:he was tried and killed. Yeah, and killed. So that's what i'm'm saying.
Speaker 3:Why did people view what he was doing as a bad thing? Why?
Speaker 1:Oh, because I think the system was already in place.
Speaker 3:Okay, so that's what I'm saying. So, for example, what about? The system creates ignorant people or creates ignorance. No, but the thing is.
Speaker 5:I don't think it's. I don't think the system Based on your theory, like the way I'm understanding it, is that people are born wise, intelligent, fucking self-actualized and then somewhere they went wrong. That sounds like the so what are they born as?
Speaker 3:well, I'm not sure no, but you're saying that it's not right.
Speaker 5:I didn't say that, no, I said based on the way you're formulating the question right, it sounds like you believe that people were at one point born wise, all knowing or knowing a lot of stuff, and self-actualized, and then they decided to be live ignorantly. So is that possible?
Speaker 3:I mean, no, I mean what you're saying is not possible, because I think and I think that's why it most likely people are actually not born.
Speaker 5:We are trying to figure out, we are trying to evolve and we are just dumb.
Speaker 3:No, but then we say that like in your form of like a kid or something like that. Like that, you like that, like you, you, uh.
Speaker 5:When you're born, you're pure right and then like you're
Speaker 3:you have all these good qualities, and then you you have a soul, for example.
Speaker 1:Sure, you do right and you might. You do right and you might have a clean slate, as some philosophers thought they do right, but you're born into a family, a specific dynamic a specific social status right. Okay, but we haven't answered the question as to why you were born into that family in the first place. Well sure yeah, because some kids in the ghetto right turn out to be good. Yeah, right, yeah, turn out to be good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so there's nurture versus nature. Uh, debate, right. Is it nature or is it nurture? Yeah, right, and it's a long-standing debate, forever. Nobody can solve it. You know it's a very hard one to do. Yeah, why does it happen the way it does?
Speaker 3:this is what you're asking for well, well, well, yeah, but but like, for example, like those kinds of variables, could be answers like okay, like you're ignorant because you get born into a family, that has very strong, ignorant, for example, ideals and a very low economics status and, for example, maybe it's like the odds of you breaking out of that and persevering through that and being like not having those qualities or stuff like that might be very low and the odds of you doing, I don't know, like stealing or crime or like low income kind of more, like manual, like labor jobs or what not like that, like a, is like a much higher likelihood so it's like.
Speaker 3:That is to me is like what part of the answer could be based based on what's playing out right now.
Speaker 1:Those are easy to calculate.
Speaker 2:Totally we're going to go back to Eldar's philosophy. Right, your life is already planned out. That might be already planned for you. You know what I'm saying. You don't remember saying that, do you? I don't remember saying that.
Speaker 1:Do you? I don't. I'm glad you have good memory to be able to call me out on it.
Speaker 2:And one of the podcasts before. Everybody's life is already most likely planned out.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure if I made a statement of. This is what it is.
Speaker 3:You would have to agree, because Harris has proven to have very poor active listening skills. So I'm going to have to agree that you never said that.
Speaker 1:Okay, you need to go back on the podcast because you made me say that I'll give you a hundred dollars if you find this moment, and you know if I said it this way and then I didn't give any explanation as to why I said it.
Speaker 2:You said it because, right, because you were talking about me.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, whether or not I was going to, there are certain things right, like certain things that happen in your life or the way your mom understands life and knows right. She set you up in certain type of way right when your life will play out in such a way, where it's supposed to play out right, up until a point where you may be an adult, where you start like, oh wait, a second, I have a head on my shoulders and I'm able to think.
Speaker 5:This hurts and this doesn't. This was you. Look what's happening. Your memory's not so good, look at this.
Speaker 3:What happened to you, harris? What did Eldar say?
Speaker 2:this is Mike.
Speaker 1:Mike was asking a question also about this whole phenomenon this was all a theorization.
Speaker 2:Your theory was these people might already have a plan and you?
Speaker 1:brought up philip and dennis yes, and those numbness and I and I agree with him that certain things, certain decision making that we do make, actually plans out a trajectory about our life for a very long time. Right be it. Whatever attachment that you're having, whatever attachment that you attach yourself towards or desire, next thing you know you're going to have to do that, like right now, you have a desire and attachment to prove the people around you wrong. That's it. You're hell-bent on that. Therefore, I can be an oracle of yours and explain to you how your life is going to go. I'm sorry, I'm lost. What the fuck is that?
Speaker 2:It's okay, you're supposed to be lost. I don't even know what an oracle is. Oracle is a fortune teller.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a fortune teller. I mean not a fortune teller, A fortune teller.
Speaker 3:Huh.
Speaker 1:Like an all-knowing person, right? No, no, no, telling me or what you want to accomplish. I can tell you certain steps and certain mistakes and certain things that you're going to go through, right, I mean, everybody in this room can do this. It's very simple, right Through the journey that you chose for yourself. You want the revenge to prove people wrong.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you'll never get what you want and you'll never be successful doing that, guaranteed. You see what he's doing that he's predicting your future.
Speaker 2:So totally, his future was predicted already that he was going to be in the closet his entire adult life. Fine, okay, it's okay. Thank you so much. We're equal opportunity. I don't know where you get I don't know where.
Speaker 5:You keep bringing that up you're the one who's spending the sharing the room with him tomorrow night. Wait, why did you want to share it with me?
Speaker 3:Whoa Are you serious?
Speaker 1:Wait, there was a choice and you chose Tully. No, Mike, no there wasn't.
Speaker 2:No, there wasn't actually because Mike said he wanted his own room because me and Tully were supposedly going to be staying out in the casino.
Speaker 3:Wait, mike do you still have that gay alarm you had before?
Speaker 2:Gaydar Do you?
Speaker 3:have a gaydar.
Speaker 2:Oh damn, we just put Mike on the spot, look. But no, mike wants to be a little bitch. As he said, me and Tully were most likely going to stay in the casino all night. Which, mike, mike, I'm taking $200 out and I'm leaving my wallet in the fucking room, locking it up in the safe. If I lose the shit, I lose the shit. I am dude. Well, you think I'm gonna run through all my money.
Speaker 3:I don't know what you're gonna do.
Speaker 1:You're not gonna leave your wallet what are we saying here, harris, besides the fact that Mike is a little bitch? He's a little bitch.
Speaker 2:You got to come out with the boys, dude. I don't want to hear about this sick bullshit, bro.
Speaker 1:It's going on week number three, is Mike being a little bitch or he's being actually smart?
Speaker 2:I don't think he's being smart man.
Speaker 1:Well, think about it for a second. What Think about his condition or his situation in this case? Is he being smart or is he being a little bitch?
Speaker 2:Dude, it's going on week three. How long you gonna pull this?
Speaker 1:How about this? How about this? This is an experiment, a mental experiment. How about Mike does exactly what you want him to do, but he gets sick again from it?
Speaker 5:but I'm willing to do that. But if I get sick, you can't come to work and get paid for the days either what?
Speaker 1:no, wait a second. That's too harsh of a punishment, too harsh, okay, fine, I think you getting sick on his accord is already a good punishment. Are you okay with this?
Speaker 5:are you okay? Yeah, if you are, then I'm down to stay out till 5.
Speaker 1:no, fuck you wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Are you being a little bitch?
Speaker 2:fuck you, I'm not gonna have this on my head if he doesn't want to come out on his own accord.
Speaker 1:You being a little bitch now.
Speaker 2:You being a little bitch if he doesn't want to hang out on his own accord, man, then stay out a little bit wait. Why are you assuming?
Speaker 1:I don't want to hang out on his own accord man and stay out a little bit.
Speaker 5:Why, why Wait? Why are you assuming I don't want to hang out? You see what's happening here.
Speaker 1:This example right here again is tapping into the actual soul of what the fuck is going on or who the person is. Yeah, there's no way you could spin this right, because the person doesn't want to hold the responsibility of somebody else being ill.
Speaker 3:No, which makes it.
Speaker 1:Who's extracting the answers? Who's extracting the answers?
Speaker 3:Giving the answers.
Speaker 5:The answers are given a lot of times.
Speaker 2:So fine, Mike, what's your?
Speaker 1:You're saying he's a little bitch, right? What I'm saying is that look, mike, let's jump over this little bitch thing. Let's get sick. If you're going to get sick, but obviously on the accord that we think that it's wise for Mike to get his good sleep right now, because he's been sick with COVID and it hit him pretty hard, he should get his sleep. You're saying that yo, stop being a little bitch, stay up till four, but if you get sick I'll be pinning it on you.
Speaker 2:What's your opinion of? Not Too Late, oh see.
Speaker 5:That's very interesting. My opinion of Not Too Late. Probably Midnight. Yeah, this is epic.
Speaker 2:This is like fucking Socrates on a slave boy. Yo fuck you man. Fuck you man, yo man.
Speaker 5:Don't let that door hit you on the way out, man. Don't let the door hit you where the Lord split you.
Speaker 2:What the fuck? You sick fuck. You sick fuck. That's disgusting, you sick fuck.
Speaker 5:Where you come up with this shit. That's like a known thing in the tribes in Alabama, tribes that I used to hang around with. You didn't go to the fucking Alabama, so are we doing this? What? I'm ready to bang and hang and bang till five.
Speaker 2:I'm not doing it unless you want to do it, man.
Speaker 3:Why not why?
Speaker 2:I'm not going to force someone.
Speaker 3:Why not? What do you mean? Why I'll bust his balls.
Speaker 2:I'll bust his balls.
Speaker 5:But you keep saying you want me to come stay and hang out and don't be a little bitch.
Speaker 2:I'm busting your balls, man if you don't want to hang, don't hang man wait, I don't think it's a question.
Speaker 5:If I don't want to hang, if I don't want to hang, you don't feel you can do it, don't do it.
Speaker 2:I don't think the equation is if I don't want to.
Speaker 5:Am I going with you guys? Yeah, you're going. Could I have just stayed home? Saved all the money?
Speaker 2:yeah, all the time and just stay home. Rock, absolutely, but I'm still gonna bust your balls. Oh okay, it's who I am, man.
Speaker 5:So you think he's just. He's just talking shit like a little.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's saying that he's actually just joking the whole time.
Speaker 5:He's just talking shit like a little bitch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm gonna continue busting his balls if he doesn't feel he.
Speaker 1:Love. But what I don't like it's the pressure.
Speaker 2:An individual I'm not pressuring, I'm busting balls. All right, I'm calling him a little bitch. Right, you bust my balls about not being the smartest person. Right, I'm busting balls.
Speaker 1:If you were to compare the examples of when I bust your balls versus what you're doing right now, it's two different things. Something tells me, without examining it closely, is that your shit is a little bit more malicious than mine.
Speaker 2:I'm a malicious motherfucker.
Speaker 1:Well, no, you're malicious because you're dumb, and that's okay. Oh, fuck you, dude, what?
Speaker 2:Fuck you man.
Speaker 5:That's not true. Mike Hit that button for me.
Speaker 2:Hit that button. Oh fuck you. Oh, go fuck yourself. You didn't even have it set up. You said you had it set up.
Speaker 5:What do you mean? I just did it.
Speaker 2:No, you didn't Fuck you man. Go fuck yourself. Oh, you, son of a bitch, you were full of shit. Fake news I'm calling you out Fake news.
Speaker 1:Listen a lot of times what I say. I actually believe the shit that I say.
Speaker 2:You actually believe it? Where's the button you say you downloaded it? Man, listen, believe it. Where's the button you said you?
Speaker 1:downloaded it, man Listen. So what are we talking about here? Busting balls, I mean, with Tully's thing. Tully, you still have problems with it, or no?
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, you're more just saying that it's a survival of fitness thing and that it's completely fine and it is what it is Right.
Speaker 2:I'm lost. I don't remember what the fuck you're talking about, bro.
Speaker 3:We're talking about why people view the truth as like hate or like a malicious or bad thing.
Speaker 1:Well, a lot of times, what we're saying is this right?
Speaker 2:It goes back to having a shield up. What the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 1:Here's what we're doing right. If you were to actually take this footage, or take Toli's interactions with you throughout the day, or our interactions with you throughout the day, and you send it to people out there right in their world, they're going to say yo, we're bullying you. This is what they're going to say. We obviously understand we have doing a good job. Try to persevere as the criticisms that we give you so you can grow and become the diamond that maybe you are in the rough. I thought I was a rock.
Speaker 2:You are, I thought. I was a rock. It's a rock.
Speaker 1:We're trying to tumble your ass into a diamond, but that takes some skill, some thick skin and all this other stuff. But the world out there might look at it like, yo, these guys are bullying him. What are they talking about? They can suck my dick and I think that's what's going to happen. I think that the world's supposed to convince you otherwise. I think there's going to be a battle there. You know what I mean. When we make it public, people are going to say, yo, they're bad guys and they're trying to that same trial. Something tells me that you know where. The world's going to say yo, there's bullying, this is bad, you should sue us, you should quit, you should fire. You know I mean you should get fired or whatever, collect unemployment, all this other crap. But this is the war. You know what I'm saying. So we're in our own little war. We are. You know there's different ideologies that are coming coming across.
Speaker 2:You're the Taliban. I'm not what are you? I'm the Marine bro.
Speaker 1:I'm coming here to whoop your ass fine, and some people have to die for their cause, like what do they call them?
Speaker 2:martyrs, kamikaze, kamikaze, martyrs you get what?
Speaker 1:42 virgins when you die wow, they, they call themselves martyrs, but then the, the marines are having PTSD's and they have to commit suicides after all. Huh, what a fucking like, what a crazy conundrum. Right like, you go over there, you kill the fucking suicide bombers, and then you come home and you become a suicider. That's because the government's fucked, they send you over there, they send you over there. This is what people that survive this shit say.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not too sure Something good and honorable for your country should lead to fucking, ptsd and mental issues.
Speaker 2:Let's put it this way my friend came home. And my friend came home. He was in Walter Reed. Let's put it this way my friend came home. My friend came home. He was in Walter Reed. He's missing a leg. His fucking congressman shows up to the fucking hospital, Goes to shake his hand, Sucks his dick. Oh, you did a such great job. Thank you for your service. You're a goddamn hero and you know he didn't want to fucking talk to him. He's like get out of my fucking face. You, son of a bitch. What are you going to do for me?
Speaker 5:Exactly Yo. Why are you wearing a fanny pack? You know what fuck you, what the?
Speaker 1:fuck, you're wearing a fanny pack.
Speaker 2:Send me that. Yo Fuck you. Fuck you, motherfucker. You're a fanny pack. Oh, fuck you, motherfucker.
Speaker 5:He was comfortable. Let the kid. Let the kid live. That's it. It's on camera, you can go back to the painting pack.
Speaker 2:Fuck you, man, but you know, uh, yeah, they go there. In my opinion, they send you to fight their wars and then, when you get out, you're left high and dry well, why do you think that?
Speaker 1:is harris. Is this done on purpose or not?
Speaker 2:well, yeah, the way my, my friend, his opinion, we're gonna throw him over here. His opinion my buddy, ryan he joined the army, yeah, started out in infantry, went into the 75th, saw a lot of shit, yeah, special ops fucking kicked in doors, saw a lot of death, okay. And the way he puts it is I joined the military. They turned me into their war fighting machine. They broke me down, built me up Okay, and then when I was done, they threw me out. Why? He doesn't have those answers. He just believes the government doesn't look after their own. Why? Because they don't need them anymore. If you leave right, if you leave you're on your own. You sign your papers. He remembers signing it. He discharged, yeah, he offered to go back. He was offered to go back One of the biggest.
Speaker 2:He said when he left, you know what he got? He got a paper, not even a call. He got a paper that said thank you for your service and your sacrifice. Enjoy your life. There you go, you see.
Speaker 1:Going into it what was he expecting?
Speaker 3:Thank you, Did he do his research saying, hey, I'm down to join, but what's the after process when I come back, if there's something wrong with me, if there's mental issues?
Speaker 1:He Like when I come back. If there's something wrong with me, there's mental issues. Harris, I'm going to give you a heads up when you're going into it. I'm going to give you a heads up Before you go into this conversation. Is that we're going to completely debunk going to the military?
Speaker 2:Well, I understand that I 100% agree All right but when he went into it right, all he saw was the recruiting the movies, right. The bad man, the recruiting, the movies, right.
Speaker 2:It's always like joining the army was the best thing in my life. It gave me a career when I got out. So, him going into it, he's going into the infantry, he's going into the 75th. What the fuck are you going to do with that? Sure, you can get out. You can join the police force. You can become a private contractor, right. But sure, some careers in the military absolutely give you shit, right, intelligence. You can get out and go work for a company, uh, go work as a security person stopping cybercrime, yeah, okay. But as a grunt, what the fuck are you gonna do? You're gonna get out, yeah, you're just gonna become a cop. Really, there's no afterlife.
Speaker 1:Harry's. Do you know why? There's a reason why to join the military, you have to only be 18 years old.
Speaker 2:You only have to be 18 years old because you're a dumb fuck.
Speaker 1:You know why you can't drink and drive at 21. I mean, you can drink when you're 21. You can drink when you're 21. And when you're 21, you can drink you're 21.
Speaker 2:I mean, when you're 21, you can drink.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's exactly what you said you can't drink when you're 21.
Speaker 2:Yes, sorry, I mixed that up. You see, you can, because you don't have the fucking ability to know what's right or wrong, but you can go to war. I've heard several fucking people say that. I've heard Jesse Ventura say I became a Navy SEAL at 19. Yes, but when I came home I couldn't drink, so I went back.
Speaker 1:The reason is is because the mind is very impressionable, still at those ages, 18 years old, 19 years old.
Speaker 2:So why do people stay in? Because they're afraid to get out.
Speaker 1:Where Stay in where?
Speaker 2:The military.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, there's rules, no.
Speaker 2:Of course you have people that extend.
Speaker 1:You can't be a deserter.
Speaker 2:No, but you have a lot of people that extend even if it's hurting on the tour. That's all they know, that's all they know.
Speaker 5:Come on, what are you going to do?
Speaker 1:At that point you've been so brainwashed that you believe in all that shit.
Speaker 2:My friend. He served two extensions before he got wounded. He was offered to stay in a clerkship but he didn't want to fucking do that, so he got out. He said all he got. He lost his leg, got a purple heart, the stupid fucking thing which he supposedly threw in the dumpster he would have sold it.
Speaker 2:He held grudge. He said the only thing he got out was a piece of paper. He said thank you for your service and sacrifice. He got a brand new prosthetic, but he held a grudge for two years what grudge against who? And what the government he didn't want anything to do with it. He started making all these stupid fucking videos, posting it online, fucking saying fucking government sends me over there, but fucking ditches me, I throws me in the fucking trash.
Speaker 1:A disgruntled employee. It sounds like.
Speaker 2:And it took him a while.
Speaker 1:A disgruntled employee yeah Right, he went over there, right. What do you do? He gave his life, he gave a limb, he gave his fucking arms, his legs and all this other shit.
Speaker 2:You know what his response was it's revenge, Because I'm not going to fucking vote.
Speaker 1:I mean regular shit, harris. For us this is regular shit. It's supposed to happen this way and the thing is, the individuals who actually think and pay attention to what's actually going on, they understand this and they would never raise their hand to go and do this. The worst thing you could do for yourself is to put yourself into government's arms Like, okay, cool government, why don't you just use me as you wish?
Speaker 2:What the fuck? I watched his life go down. He was engaged, he had a son. Lost all of it. But just like a month ago.
Speaker 3:you just told me that you would still join the military in a heartbeat if they took you and you would leave, yeah that's without talking to my buddy, ryan, and I was like buddy ryan, we're trying to when you when you try to push it, when you guys
Speaker 2:perspective yes, implementing shit in my head. Yes, I went to him and I talked to him and he's telling me all about how fucked up his life was. He showed me pictures of when he was really fucked up, thank you. He had his prosthetic with his shorts. He was fucking drunk off his ass. Someone took a picture of him passed out at a bar. Yeah, uh, he goes. You know just not really. It's very hard when you get out because you see so much shit and you're never the same he goes. I lost my leg for two years. I had a fucking grudge. He goes. It took me two years to accept the fact that I was an amputee. Yeah, I made the decision to go over there.
Speaker 2:I have to accept what happened to me, yeah, and I have to move the fuck on.
Speaker 1:You know, he realized he's an idiot. Do you realize this or no?
Speaker 2:Well, you know, I do realize that, okay. He goes after what happened in Afghanistan and the whole shit went back and he sees that it just went back to the way it was. He realized he fought for fucking nothing.
Speaker 1:Harris, you were ready to donate your finger to show off.
Speaker 2:You think I'm the first person to do that.
Speaker 3:You're not what does it matter?
Speaker 1:No, what I'm saying is Harris, that is the bottom. Yeah, for what, right? The question is for what I'm going to go fight for what? I'm going to donate my finger for what, right? The question is for what I'm going to go fight for what? I'm going to donate my finger for what? Why? It's just like a. You still have to live without a finger. Like these things work and they're nice so that they work. They grab food, they grab titties, they grab pussy Dicks, if you.
Speaker 5:Whoa whoa whoa.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying and it feels nice. Imagine you don't have an arm.
Speaker 2:You stay away from me, you sick fuck.
Speaker 1:Imagine you don't have a leg For what I see.
Speaker 5:Because you went to defend somebody else's ideology, but I guess that's. Is that indicative of your own knowledge of what you're capable of, of the highest thing you can do, you can achieve? Do you believe that, hey, this is. The greatest purpose I can serve in life is to do this? You know what? Is that your belief system? Or is?
Speaker 1:it just like a fake. It's an interesting phenomenon because on one hand, it's like okay, these motherfuckers wake up. I mean, they grow up and they're 18 years old, they go to war and they die. Like okay, cool, they get another chance at it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:What Another chance? Another chance.
Speaker 1:I'm thinking about reincarnation and continuation, and of what's the progression of humanity, oh my.
Speaker 2:God. There's no such thing as reincarnation. You're dead, you're dead. You float around your fucking spirit's there, bro, you think you're?
Speaker 1:going to come here, you're going to sin out of your ass, don't do anything good, and you're just going to fucking pass out and be okay. You crazy bro, you die, you float around the fucking world.
Speaker 2:That's it. No chance you really believe in reincarnation.
Speaker 5:No chance You're here because of reincarnation.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, my God, your dad chose you to be here, so let me ask you a question. I die, I'm just going to live another life.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be visible, whatever it is that you've gotten in this life is going to pass on to the next life all the knowledge, all the understanding.
Speaker 2:I was a rowdy outlaw back in the day, wasn't I boy? No?
Speaker 5:you were a pussy, just like you are now. Go fuck yourself. The thing is that you came into this life back in the day, wasn't I boy? No, you were a pussy just like you are now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you were a pussy. Go fuck yourself.
Speaker 1:The thing is that you came into this life thinking that this is the shell, that you need to be cool and tough and tell everybody that you're going to break their legs and shit.
Speaker 2:Who the fuck said I'm going to break your fucking legs bro?
Speaker 1:You're constantly trying to get into a fight with us verbally.
Speaker 2:You say I'm going to fuck you up, Come into the ring. That's me fucking joking around. What's wrong with? You. That's me joking around. That's like my dad's friend saying you dirty fucking Jew, and he goes.
Speaker 1:You dirty fucking what kind of reaction are you trying to get out of us when you say this.
Speaker 2:I'm joking around, I'm throwing jokes.
Speaker 1:You don't want me to dig in this place. I'm fucking joking around, bro, we'll do it. In a couple of years You'll understand it a little bit better. Oh guess what? Yeah, exactly, good. Yeah, mike, you were saying something.
Speaker 5:I was no. My thing was about the people doing what they believe that their capacity is, like their knowledge. Right, if this person's knowledge is rooted in the fact that, like yo, this is a great thing to do, go serve my country. Yeah, there's nothing greater I can do. That's right. That's what you live out. That's it you live out.
Speaker 3:That's so.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but for example and that might be your capacity for that moment.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that might be your capacity for that moment in that lifetime, I feel like, especially if it's at a young age, where you make the decision to do this, I almost don't even view it as your fault or your decision, kind of like. It feels weird.
Speaker 1:I feel like but why did you make the decision?
Speaker 3:that's what I'm saying. Some people will not make that decision.
Speaker 1:Some people will and the inclination of make that decision. That's what I'm saying. Some people will not make that decision and some people will, yeah like people and the inclination of making that decision is like almost those motherfuckers are supposed to die.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like people, for example, who are making that decision at a very young age, like, for example, like 18 and stuff like that. It's almost like, Like it sounds like they grew into really shitty scenarios.
Speaker 2:What do you mean by that? Because?
Speaker 1:you're going where my dad would say they're pretty shitty.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right. My dad would say, right, the only people that join the military I'm going to call them out the only people that join the military are people that don't have a family or are from the fucking hood. That's what he used to fucking say yeah, but what he doesn't get is there's a lot of fucking military families that it's in bread, it's basically bred into them. Well, it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1:This is, you know, my dad, your grandfather, my grandfather and some individuals within that realm of scope of service, that they do become heroes or fucking generals and all this other shit and they're like, yeah, honor. So, they pass that on.
Speaker 3:How do you feel towards people that, like you know, like people will be like yo, you should be grateful for this person because you're sitting here in safety and they're like defending the nation, or like doing this imagine we didn't have a military somebody told me that, yeah, like, how do you feel towards like that kind of concept?
Speaker 2:imagine if we didn't have a military.
Speaker 1:I would have to tell them. Explain to me causation and correlation phenomenon. Um, imagine if we didn't have a military. I would have to tell them, uh, uh explain to me causation and correlation phenomenon. Okay, imagine if we're gonna have the ability to imagine if we didn't have a military, in the sense that you just correlated to me that the reason why I'm having this type of life is because, actually, it's because of you or your husband or your brother or somebody else that you know that went and fought for me.
Speaker 2:Yo.
Speaker 1:What Imagine? Are you crazy, bro? Imagine what would happen. I'm having this life because of the choices that I made, and not because of the choices that you made.
Speaker 3:No, but that's like a common guilt trip thing of like yo you should feel like Bro, this is the easiest equations, yeah, like you should feel like that. That's a common thing that you hear the time Like, hey, like, like. You should feel like respectful towards them or like like in a very particular.
Speaker 3:So let me ask you you're signing up to like what Push out like government ideals or like ideologies? Yeah, up to like what push out like government ideals or like ideologies, yeah, or like stuff like that. That like, if you disagree with those things to begin with, and like a lot of times it's like these wars and this need for violence only happens because of what? Because of like particular, I guess, like egos and like hardcore ideologies. Ideologies are like. You don don't believe what to begin with, so why do you need to be grateful?
Speaker 2:for someone else. Hold on time out. Because I got something to say here.
Speaker 1:Okay, why the fuck do you have an?
Speaker 2:opinion about this. Oh, fuck you. I'm going to ask you a serious question. Where would America be right now if we did not have a fucking military? We would be owned by who?
Speaker 1:But where is America right now, in the first place? Because you would be going around here saying that we're in a very bad place.
Speaker 2:We are in a very bad place, but imagine if we were taken over by Russia, china.
Speaker 1:See, the thing is you're binding yourself to a very specific thing.
Speaker 2:So let me put it this way, right.
Speaker 1:Listen in Russia. My parents who weren't able to listen to rock your parents know this too, Mike. I don't know if your parents do, I know they're a little bit younger who weren't able to wear jeans and listen to Victor Choi, but they did. They found their ways. Let me find the ways to liberate their minds, to live free and feel good. So so that's where we're going to be. Okay, People no, people Right Don't want to find a way. They will. So those that don't they won't.
Speaker 2:So let me ask a question here. If we were attacked, what you're saying is we should do nothing. Who told you this?
Speaker 1:Right. Explain to me the process that your mind clicked in such a way to extract this.
Speaker 3:I would love to hear as well.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about this right.
Speaker 1:I was going to say before you said this I was going to hear as well, let's talk about this, right? I was going to say before you said this I was going to say that if motherfuckers came over here to my yard and trying to fuck with me, bro, I'm strapping everybody up, I'm fucking fighting back.
Speaker 2:Okay, let's put it this way. That's in my head. Let's put it this way, right. Unless, of course, this way, unless we're being liberated. Let's put it this way the. Afghanis name war what the fuck Liberated? Think about that.
Speaker 1:What I just said, ukraine is being liberated or no.
Speaker 2:They're fighting back.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no. Is Ukraine being liberated, yes or no, by Russia? Yes, no, why not? No, this is what Russians think.
Speaker 2:Well, Russians are fucking mad. I have.
Speaker 1:Russian friends and I have Ukrainian friends. My Russian friends are saying that Ukraine is being liberated from Nazi regime.
Speaker 2:What the fuck are they doing here if they agree?
Speaker 1:with that and the Ukrainian is saying that they're being oppressed and they're being actually Nazi.
Speaker 2:You understand this or no? Well, let me put it this way If they feel that way, they need to go join the Russian military?
Speaker 1:This is what I'm asking you Are we being oppressed or we're not being liberated? They're not being liberated.
Speaker 3:I guess it depends on who you ask. There you go, so let me ask is Harris being oppressed or he's being? A favorite. You ask the motherfucking philosophers.
Speaker 1:You're going to be like yo. You guys are challenging him. You guys are doing the right stuff.
Speaker 3:You ask the fucking let's just say the dentists or the nates Ask his mom. You ask the fucking.
Speaker 2:let's just say the dentists or the nates Ask his mom Hold up, hold up, hold up. Yo, let's put it this way, right? Do you agree with the war on terror? I'm asking.
Speaker 1:You understand that with this question you're asking you are offending me. Why? Because you don't understand who I am. I understand. If you did, you would not ask me this question.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying this, right, I agree that we should fight ISIS. There's a reason, right, we're keeping them at bay. We're letting them know you don't fuck with us. Yeah, right, yeah, we're stopping another attack from happening.
Speaker 5:How do you know that's not another propaganda that you're being fed? Same as you should have joined the military, the one you bought into 20 years ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a very good question. This is your mathematician, your accountant and your lawyer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let me put it this way, bro, right, I believe our country our military is trying to stop to make sure we don't have another. I'm going to say his name. I'm going to say his name, I'm going to say his name Hosama Yo.
Speaker 5:Mr President, what direct evidence do?
Speaker 1:you have of what you're saying. Harris, nobody's knocking on my door telling me this shit or worrying me about this shit. I don't give a fuck. You know what I'm saying. I don't give a fuck what they're doing out there. That's how I feel. What I give a fuck is about this moment right here, absolutely, and this moment feels hella good to me. I feel good that we're growing.
Speaker 3:No, and Eldar does agree that we should be fighting a war on terror, and we are every day with you Every single day.
Speaker 1:we are I'm not terror.
Speaker 3:You're invaded with fucking terrorism. Yes.
Speaker 2:Yo don't. Yes. Are you fucking crazy for saying that on there, bro? If?
Speaker 1:you sat down and defined the word terrorism, right, which we're probably going to say that it has a lot of ignorance in it, right?
Speaker 2:You quickly find out that you, actually you're a terrorist, you're a terrorist, I'm not a fucking terrorist, are you? Crazy for saying that A terrorist is a person that kills innocent lives.
Speaker 1:That's what's going to happen. You're going to want to kill us. What the fuck are you talking? About bro this is what's happening every single day. What do you say? I want to fucking get in a ring with Tully. I want to break your legs, fuck you, I'm going to kill you.
Speaker 2:It's not fun. I didn't say I'm going to kill you, bro.
Speaker 1:Today you brought a knife to the fucking office, yeah.
Speaker 2:What do you mean, bro? I'm showing it off.
Speaker 1:I told Tully in knife man, alright cool. Do you realize that we're not about this life?
Speaker 3:What life You're not a knife collector, you're a rock collector You're walking around with.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, I'm a knife collector, you're a knife collector.
Speaker 2:I'm starting to yeah, Alright, fine.
Speaker 1:I'm starting to. Okay, cool, listen, I'll go with it. If you're a knife collector, I'll give you the pass.
Speaker 2:I'm a knife collector. I'm starting to collect knives You're going to be showing us, and giving us an education, lessons and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:I'm going to give you your own little knife. I can't wait for that. Okay, cool.
Speaker 2:I'm going to get you a real nice one. I support passions Harris.
Speaker 1:I'm a knife collector.
Speaker 2:My dad's getting me into knife collecting. Only I'm not going to collect stupid pussy pocket knives.
Speaker 1:Harris, do you realize that we actually pay attention to what you're saying? Yeah, okay, cool. Do you realize that a lot of times when you were out there in the world saying stuff, people didn't pay attention? Yeah, you know why, or no?
Speaker 2:Why? Because they give a fuck.
Speaker 1:They didn't give a fuck. We actually do give a fuck.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, my dad got me into knife collections. Okay, except I'm'm going to collect these nice knives that you can show off, a little bit Like his buddy Dean Sansone from Sansone Auto Mall. Check out their inventory. Yo, yo yo. What the hell.
Speaker 5:Yo he's a great dude Yo.
Speaker 1:Brian, if you're listening to this shit, can you please cut that out?
Speaker 2:He's a great dude. He's a great dude. So we think allegedly I met him. He's a great dude. Oh, so we think allegedly I met him. He's a great dude.
Speaker 3:You met him so because you're a very poor judge of character. Oh my God, oh, fuck you.
Speaker 2:But he's a great guy Every time I went to his house, you know what the first thing he said was Let me show you my gun collection.
Speaker 5:Well, nike is definitely a great guy Yo is that the gayest thing you can say?
Speaker 1:I think so.
Speaker 2:No, it's something he's proud of right. Let me show you my gun. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:If anybody comes to sell you my gun. I'm thinking a hard dick.
Speaker 2:He's got hundreds.
Speaker 3:You just said hard you fucking put shit in my mind. You just said you have a hard one. That's the gayest shit in the world?
Speaker 2:Fuck you. You put shit in my mind, but he's like Yo, I went. I went and saw this gun wall, fuck you bro, I went and saw. I went and saw this wall right, he's got fucking guns that are 100, 200 years old.
Speaker 1:Listen, the good thing is, after this podcast, we're going to a pool party and that motherfucker has a lot of guns and you're gonna be happy Seeing them. If you decide to Load one in and shoot us all, I'm completely with it.
Speaker 2:We're going to a pool party, of course.
Speaker 1:You ready? Yeah, man, you got your fucking swim trunks. We got our swim trunks, we're going bro.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I do or not. I got to look in the back. Are you going? No, he's not going.
Speaker 1:Why are you asking stupid questions, man?
Speaker 2:We got to talk about you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 2:Yo, but hold up. Yeah, when's this going until? Because we got to wake up early, man.
Speaker 1:So shut the fuck up, man. We on fucking four day vacation right now. Man, we started the shit tonight.
Speaker 2:I know, but we got to go tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2:Why are you?
Speaker 5:worried about that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:Slow your roll man you relax man. He's being smart. Today, though, he's being smart, yeah, why? Because we got to make a. We most likely have to wake up mad early.
Speaker 1:Listen, the pool party that we're going to he should be going to. Why? Because it's his doctor's. It's his doctor, it's his doctor.
Speaker 2:What the fuck? You're friends with your fucking doctor. Of course it's his doctor. Why?
Speaker 1:What do you mean? Why it's a doctor? We know him and he's invited. He has a nice house, he has a beautiful pool and we're going to go hang out.
Speaker 2:You think I like my fucking body, man, then I'm going to fucking take my shirt off, man.
Speaker 5:It's dark outside. It's dark outside.
Speaker 1:We have to show you. You know what I'm saying Wait?
Speaker 5:you said you don't care about, You're confident with your body. Didn't that bully beat it out of you?
Speaker 2:Oh shit. Yeah, but I'm confident about people I don't know and I'm never going to fucking see again. Yeah, but you're with us.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? You just have to hide behind our tree, like in the shade Sheltering tree.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're shelter a thousand what?
Speaker 1:the fuck. Oh my God, Come on man. It's a small little thing, man, Calm down.
Speaker 2:I love how he just said we're going to this. He doesn't ask me how you want to go to this.
Speaker 1:Listen, you're going to get excited. He's going to show you his guns.
Speaker 2:AR-15s and all that shit. Bro, you know that's got the license.
Speaker 1:you know Everything's legal here.
Speaker 2:I gotta talk to him about how to get my license. All right, so where?
Speaker 1:were we, bro. I think we lost track of fucking thing. Mike, I don't remember.
Speaker 5:We started talking about Tully's thing.
Speaker 1:Yes, Tully's a little bitch. Tully, did we help you out with this or no?
Speaker 5:continue, because I was thinking about all right, go ahead.
Speaker 1:You were asking the question of uh, when did it start? Why is it right? Yeah, why where?
Speaker 5:yeah, like my thing is like I think probably all of us can relate when you, your ego gets attacked, have you always behaved properly when that happened? No, have you felt like that person has something against you? Have they hate you? Yes, they have a vendetta, of course, yeah, okay. So why does that happen? So then, okay. So then we agree. This is normal response, right? Well, sure, yeah.
Speaker 3:And for that person, Okay, Well, I'm not like disagreeing that these are not normal responses. They're like what we call normal now. But but my question is how did we get to the place where it is normal?
Speaker 1:No no, no, wait a second. I'm sorry, mike, why are you making that assumption?
Speaker 5:Why are you assuming that we got to this place and we weren't here, and why is it normal, it's not normal.
Speaker 3:Who says it's normal Society, calls it normal who's society.
Speaker 1:Again, you have to give me numbers. I mean, come on, how do we talk Whose society? Again, like you have to give me numbers.
Speaker 3:You have to give me. I mean, come on, how do we talk about anything other? No, but totally like what are we talking about? Bad parenting, okay, how many parents did we?
Speaker 1:No, but we try to understand. We try to understand why bad parenting is bad parenting. We realize a lot of time. It's not bad parenting, it's actually the circumstances behind it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but how many people?
Speaker 1:did you survey in those circumstances? I don't have to survey anybody. I know the answers to my question well yeah, but I mean, it's the same thing here. What I'm saying is that I'm not sure yours is actually correct.
Speaker 3:I'm not sure if we need to survey every single person in the country to talk about something that we pretty commonly see like. Then you don't have all your facts single person in the country to talk about something that we pretty commonly see, then you don't have all your facts.
Speaker 2:Then you don't have all your facts.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I think a lot of people I don't know. I'm not going to speculate.
Speaker 2:If you don't have the numbers, then you don't have all your facts.
Speaker 1:But I don't have it and he don't have it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're not going to. None of the stuff we talk about.
Speaker 1:We're going to be able to.
Speaker 3:Talk to every single person. You said, like why is there bad parenting or something? Did you speak to other people? Maybe you were the only person that had bad parenting.
Speaker 2:I've talked to a lot of people that felt the same fucking way, just because they felt about it doesn't mean that's actually true, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1:There's no such thing as bad. True, I'll be honest with you. There's no such thing as bad parenting. And I just came up with that. You know why.
Speaker 2:You said the same fucking thing. Listen, listen.
Speaker 1:Last fucking podcast there's no such thing as bad parenting. You know why? Because your mom did her best. Why? Because she was abused. Unfortunately right, or fortunately right she had all those trials and tribulations that she had to go through in her own life and therefore, when she had you, she's like oh shit, I'll try my best with Harris, right, I'll try my best and I'll give him as much as I can, and the truth of the matter is she did a good job.
Speaker 5:So I have a question.
Speaker 1:You know why? Because I don't know I can work with this. I don't know. That's how I felt. Is it like when you?
Speaker 5:We put my mom through hell.
Speaker 1:When you look at, when you look at a person right, and I think that you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna dedicate your whole life in order to right the wrongs. Go ahead, sorry, go ahead, sorry, mike.
Speaker 5:Based on what you just said, you can obviously call and be like hey, that person is stupid, Right, but is that person really stupid? No, there's no such thing as stupid. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you talking about? The person same as a bad parent they're not like okay, I want to be a bad parent. They're not going out there with that goal initially, they're not continuing the parenting as quote-unquote bad parents. It's just like they're doing the best they can. So, yeah, that's what came to mind.
Speaker 2:So there's no way to correct. It is what you're saying. No, that's not what we're saying at all.
Speaker 1:There's a way to correct it. Is what you're saying? No, that's not what we're saying at all. There's a way to correct it. We just have to identify it properly and say things properly.
Speaker 2:So we just got to keep trying until we get it right?
Speaker 1:No, we have to keep having this conversation in order to find the right language to understand each other.
Speaker 2:But you believe there's a possibility to find the correct way. Oh, we will. You know why? Oh, we will.
Speaker 1:Oh, we will. You know why? Because we're maybe by God's design, are in tune that if I was to take a needle right now and poke you in that leg of yours, you're going to say ouch. And I agree that if I'm going to do the same thing to myself, I'm going to say ouch. So let me ask you we have a common language and because we have a common language, this fucking shit, this design, is very interesting and specific.
Speaker 3:But also like Eldar is like the perfect amount of like, of like, like has like perfect amount of like intelligence and like wisdom and hood, portion of you as well, Hood, and you can like uh, you can bridge the gap Yo.
Speaker 2:Yes, you grew up in what part of Brooklyn? What?
Speaker 1:Yo D, I'm from Brooklyn. You bitch ass, nigga.
Speaker 3:You have enough of the stupidity and retardation, mixed with lots of smarts that you can speak to all walks of life Yo what part of Brooklyn were you raised? Thank you, for the compliment.
Speaker 2:What part of Brooklyn were you raised? You were raised in the fucking.
Speaker 1:But I always feel that I'm not enough. Were you raised in the upper class of Brooklyn?
Speaker 3:I still have to find the right language by a thing you're probably supposed to always feel that Were you raised in the upper part of Brooklyn, upper class.
Speaker 1:What Upper class? Me and my mom once went to collect bottle cans in order to make ends meet. So you were in the hood. I'm not sure if we were in the hood, but we were like struggling in the beginning, when we were immigrants.
Speaker 3:My grandpa and dad for like 10 years, picked up all the packs of cigarettes that they can to order all those fucking flasks and hoodies my dad grew up in the Bronx at a time when I guess you could say his part was Jewish and Italian.
Speaker 2:it was very racist. His area was very and Italian it was very racist. Okay, his area was very racist to African Americans.
Speaker 3:Your parents had it better than any of our parents.
Speaker 2:Yeah, african Americans and all that.
Speaker 3:They had to fucking migrate here not speaking the fucking language. I get that. My parents went back to college while fucking raising me. I get that.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying they didn't have a good life right, but my dad would tell me stories about how all this african-american kid once, uh, rode his bike through the neighborhood and all the italians and jewish people chased him around with the. No, it's literally. He compared that the bronx that was based in his part of the Bronx he was with the Italians. Italians and Jews lived next to each other. Okay, y'all knew each other, you know. And he said it was rough. It literally is. He said that was in the 70s and 80s Shit was rough, so where?
Speaker 2:did you grow up in Brooklyn, bro?
Speaker 1:I grew up along the Chinese, the Italians and Arabs.
Speaker 2:Okay, so how bad was the crime there?
Speaker 1:We have bloods and crips. Yeah, they said, don't wear red stuff in schools. Does that help?
Speaker 2:But was that in your neighborhood, say that was in my school. They said hey don't wear anything red because the bloods are going.
Speaker 1:In my school they said yeah you're school right red, because the bloods are gonna come and stab you, yeah okay, okay, but you're, but your neighborhood, not your school.
Speaker 2:Okay, your neighbor, your particular neighbor, as we, as we know, okay go to school every other block can be either good or bad bath avenue boys.
Speaker 1:if you google this, this is an italian mafia, part of an italian mafia, where they actually did shit Bath Avenue Boys and I was right there. 19th Avenue, bath Avenue Boys, 20th Avenue, 18th Avenue. Does this help?
Speaker 2:answer your question. No, it doesn't, because you could say my dad lived in the hood because he grew up with all the mafia guys.
Speaker 1:As a kid I did not see like murders or killings, but I did hear about fights. I hear about stabbings, I hear about killings from a different source. But did we have those gangsters? Yes, we had the Italian gangsters. We had the Bloods in schools and there was a lot of fights between things, but to say you're from the hood, right. I'm not from the hood, bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm just saying bro you can't say he's got some hood and sure he likes certain things. Yeah, he can relate to people okay I was saying in a different way. No, man, he, he ain't got no hood in the man, okay you ain't got no hood boy.
Speaker 5:Thanks, harris. Thank you, harris right.
Speaker 2:Like my dad, he's proud he's from the bronx people here that eats turkey salad bro he ain't no hood, bro.
Speaker 4:He he good people hear from you know what his dad said to go harris goes, dad, we're gonna install an electric charger.
Speaker 1:And you know, oh my, do you know what his dad said Harris goes dad we're going to install an electric charger.
Speaker 2:Oh god he goes.
Speaker 1:That's going to bring the value of the house down. What if the people that buy the house In the future don't have electric cars? That's going to devalue our house.
Speaker 2:That's sick. You know what I told my dad? I said what did I tell my dad, eldar? I said you're not planning on fucking selling the house.
Speaker 3:So if anything, that's even a dumber argument than I thought that you would bring.
Speaker 1:Well, I said, you realize he's a complete dumbass, you already said we're upgrading his house to make sure it's compliant to what's going on in the world today His house value is going to go actually up.
Speaker 2:I told my dad.
Speaker 1:He said it's going to go down.
Speaker 2:I told my dad. I said you admitted that you're not planning on selling the house, that it's most likely going to go to me and my sister.
Speaker 1:I said so you're not going to have to be the one to deal with it. You're not his real son, are you? No, I'm not, and the daughter is actually his daughter.
Speaker 2:Yes, but he doesn't have as good of a relationship with her as he does with me. They butt heads left and right.
Speaker 3:So do you and your dad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but we don't argue like they do. He submits more.
Speaker 1:What he?
Speaker 2:submits more, because he's a pussy, I don't submit, I say okay.
Speaker 3:How often does he talk to his daughter?
Speaker 2:I say you know what this ain't worth it. He went two years without speaking to her.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's exactly why you live with him. They speak once a fucking year.
Speaker 2:He just started living with him the last past six months. No, they always butt heads. There's a reason, though she's got the woke mind virus.
Speaker 3:And what does your dad have, huh?
Speaker 5:What virus does he have?
Speaker 2:Old dog, old school, old dog virus. Learn the new tricks, man Tricks of our kids. They say. But uh, yeah, my sister got a major worldwide virus. She's dating a guy named Jose. I really hope she doesn't listen to this. But she's dating a guy named Jose and he what do you mean? Joe's named Jose. I really hope she doesn't listen to this. But she's dating a guy named Jose.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 5:Do you?
Speaker 2:mean uh, jose Jose Bro fuck you.
Speaker 3:But there was some real estate agent and their name was spelled J-O-S-E and he was like how do you pronounce this? Is this Jose? I said is this Jose or Jose? Yeah, and I'm like have you ever seen? And he's like that's not how Jose is usually spelled. I'm like, have you ever seen another way that Jose is spelled other than J-O-S-E?
Speaker 2:I was thinking of Jesus. I was thinking of Jesus because it's really spelled like fucking Jesus.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but Jose is.
Speaker 2:Jose. But anyway, his name's Jose and he identifies as Spanish non-binary. Oh God, so my dad didn't know. So she doesn't have a boyfriend. She has a. They, I was explaining, I'm sorry. Her fiancé. Now Her fiancé, my sister's fiancé. His name's Jose. Is she a her? He identifies as non-binary. So my dad didn't know this. And what does that mean Non-binary? Yeah, explain. So my dad goes, mentioned him, like him. Okay, how's he doing? Oh, it's not he, it's they them. Okay, are they doing? And my dad goes I'm sorry, I don't fucking understand what the fuck you're saying. He goes well, they don't identify, he doesn't identify this particular gender. My dad goes how the fuck does that work?
Speaker 1:okay, just because your dad is ignorant about it doesn't mean it's valid. No, no.
Speaker 2:But you know, but he goes by, they, them. We're talking about how my dad's an old school guy, my, my dad's an old school guy, my, my sister's progressive, very woke mind, woke mind, okay. Okay, she agrees with everything. She's LGBT Democrat, all about the black lives matter Uh, she agrees with all this stuff. Okay, she likes to be in tuned in all of what's going on in the world and, uh, you know, agree with it. Okay, I guess it kind of comes from my aunt, my dad's sister. She's very approved of this shit. Okay, okay, my sister doesn't exactly know. I guess you could say what she was. She went through a lesbian phase. She went through a polyamorous phase where she dated couples and shit like that.
Speaker 1:She's a freak, freak.
Speaker 2:She went through the bisexual phase.
Speaker 1:She's, I guess you could say going with the times. Good example for your parenting stuff and your question about look nature versus nurture A person who was born into a completely different family and now is the way they are Completely different His sister, you, the way they are Completely different. His sister, you know, from the dad. Straight away, so far away from the dad.
Speaker 2:Where it's like, it's completely like fucking. Well, see, this wasn't the case. My dad accepted it, stuff like that, but she started going to a therapist and the therapist embedded in her mind that this is your dad's words?
Speaker 1:you're speaking right now or are we listening to harris?
Speaker 2:we're listening to kind of my sister, because we talked about it when I was doing. Oh, your sister said this yeah, uh, that she was raised the wrong way. My dad uh didn't support her, which is complete, full of. Whatever she wanted to do he did. My dad paid for her to go to college. My dad did everything to support her. She came out as lesbian bisexual. He accepted it. His sister, my aunt, is a lesbian. He had no problems with it. Anything she did, he supported it. If it was something stupid, he'd call her out on it, like any parent would. Okay, you know, but the therapist was woke-minded. He's a young guy. She took it deep.
Speaker 2:She took it and she cut him off. Oh, and she cut him off. And even when he found out he was identified Is that Trump? Even he found out he had two types of cancer. He went to break the news, my dad. He went to break the news to her. She goes well, I can't really talk about this with you right now and that was it. They didn't talk to each other for a year or two, entire time. He had cancer. Never talked.
Speaker 1:Okay, and now they're talking again.
Speaker 2:She goes. Listen, I'm not going to talk to you unless you go to therapy. You're going to therapy once to try to why would your dad punk out like that? He wanted to have some type of relationship with her. Why, what do you mean? It's his daughter who cares.
Speaker 1:It doesn't sound like his daughter at all. It sounds like a complete inbred.
Speaker 2:What the fuck? Still my sister man Watch out. Still love her.
Speaker 1:No, based on your dad right. Like what the fuck is going on here.
Speaker 2:But he went to therapy. Okay, for what? One time Wait. One time, okay, he what the fuck is going on here? He went to therapy. Okay, for what? One time Wait one time Okay, he went he agreed with the shit and she bought it.
Speaker 2:No, she goes. Well, I told you to go to therapy. He goes. I did, she goes. No, you have to continuously go. That's right. She's like I want you to come with my therapist, I want us to have a. He's like what the fuck? So what? They can pin everything on me. He wasn't having it. They didn't have a relationship.
Speaker 1:He showed his pants on her.
Speaker 2:I know how this shit's gonna go. I hate family therapy sessions. Imagine bringing John in the room with me and my mother. Shit would blow the fuck up. Family therapy sessions are bad Just bad news. I'm just going to put it out there. You just go at each other's throats.
Speaker 3:He's just going to put some stuff out there.
Speaker 1:You realize what you have in front of you or no? The scope of service is understood.
Speaker 2:Hey, you know what? Don't make me pull down my pants to show you my ass, boy. What the fuck Don't make me pull down my pants to show you my ass. Boy, it's beautiful. What the fuck? Yeah, motherfucker, don't fuck with me. Motherfucker, is this a baby Nate or what? Yo? What the fuck, bro? Nate's dead. Nate is dead.
Speaker 1:I dropped him in the Hudson bro, Yo what the fuck is happening Okay.
Speaker 2:I dropped him in the Hudson. Yeah, Okay, smoke mind virus. But yes, my dad is stuck in certain old ways. He'll admit that he's old school. But a lot of things. Cars Doesn't accept electric cars. They need to get more reliable. I talked to Eldar about this today. I said I'll let you drive the Tesla. Let him 30 seconds.
Speaker 2:I said, eldar, you can take it for a spin. Take it, he goes. Yeah, I mean, they're fun cars, he goes. I drove the electric Mustang. It was pretty fast. So, yeah, it's nothing compared to this and he goes. Well, the electric cars they're not reliable, you know. They need to go for five or 10 years until they get more reliable. I said, no, tesla's been around since we looked it up today 2008.
Speaker 3:You gotta ask him what does that mean?
Speaker 2:He believes that the electric cars need to go for 10 years, like the gas cars did, so they can get the kinks out.
Speaker 3:What is wrong with them right now?
Speaker 2:He knows all of them. He's thinking of the Hyundais and the Kiasia's right. They're having a lot of problems, they're being sent back okay, so the hyundai's and kia's are being sent back. He thinks all electric cars have an issue.
Speaker 3:He's basing it off of those two well, yeah, but if you start asking him questions, right you want me to challenge him well, he's giving you an objection, right, and you can either move on with that kind of an objection and have like a stupid conversation. Or you can address the objection.
Speaker 1:Do you want your dad to continue to be dumb?
Speaker 2:I'm going to state something, no.
Speaker 1:My dad's one of those parents. No listen.
Speaker 2:Do you want your dad?
Speaker 1:to continue to be dumb?
Speaker 2:No so you love your dad, I love my dad, but I will admit he is a stubborn, bullheaded man.
Speaker 1:Therefore, that overrules your love for him.
Speaker 2:No, it does not.
Speaker 1:So what do we have here?
Speaker 2:We have a conundrum.
Speaker 1:We have a conundrum that listen you love your dad. You want the best for him.
Speaker 2:And you want me to get kicked out? Boy, confront my dad like this.
Speaker 5:He will say I've done this before I got into confrontations with him.
Speaker 1:The only thing that I want from you, and from everybody else that's listening, is for you to figure out where you actually stand with your parents.
Speaker 2:I confronted my dad, I was something. It turned into a heated I mean heated argument. He gets very defensive to the point where he starts raising his voice. Then it gets to my point where if he starts raising his voice, I raise mine Just gets louder and louder, and then he'll go don't you raise your voice at me Like that, I'm just matching your fucking tone. You're raising your voice to the point and he'll admit he'll say no, I'm just matching your fucking tone. You know you're raising your voice To the point he'll admit He'll say no, I wasn't, I don't raise my voice.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean it just sounds like in that realm, like, if you want to call it that, you're a bad Salesperson.
Speaker 2:What do you mean, bro?
Speaker 3:Yeah, because you're matching his voice which doesn't work, Like, for example if someone gives you an objection right now on a call, do you be like well, you're wrong, you dumb bitch. No, You're not going to say the same thing back, right?
Speaker 2:I guess I can't do it with my dad.
Speaker 3:Handwritten mail doesn't work. Yes, it does, motherfucker.
Speaker 2:I can't do it with my dad. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1:What we're saying is that you don't yet understand what is need to be actually done with your dad, but when you do, you're going to be able to challenge your dad in such a way, Harris, where your dad gets it, and that's going to be a phenomenon where you actually Harris. This is the fucking drum roll moment you become the dad.
Speaker 2:What the fuck If I got to become my dad's parent. That's stupid, though.
Speaker 1:No, you don't understand what I'm saying. That's why you're saying it's stupid. Are you your parent's?
Speaker 2:parent. A hundred percent. You tell them what to do. A hundred percent. You say Mom, you're going to do this.
Speaker 1:I'm going to tell you right now and my parents are slowly, gracefully, trying to go into the role of being my kids and this is. I think, as the kids of our parents, I think we have to become their parents.
Speaker 2:Well, obviously, when they get older and senile, okay fine. When older and senile, okay fine when they get senile.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm telling you that we actually are trying to prevent you being, you know, an Alzheimer's patient.
Speaker 2:I get that right. Why do you think that when they get older, right?
Speaker 1:Do you remember why I said this fucking argument in the first place? Why do we think that you're a dementia patient? Yeah, argument in the first place. Why do we think that you're?
Speaker 2:a dementia patient? Yeah, I do, I think so. I remember parts of it.
Speaker 1:So tell me, why do you think that I have this theory? Because I can't remember shit, first of all, okay, and why does that play against you? What do you mean? You don't remember shit, right? Yeah? And we're here to remind you of that shit, yeah, every single day. And therefore you actually are suffering from this right now because we're trying to wake you up so you can. So I'm in a deep coma. You've been dead for a very long time.
Speaker 2:What the fuck man? It's all a dream. Grew up in a magazine Salt and pepper, heavy D up in the limousine, hanging pictures on my wall.
Speaker 3:Are you?
Speaker 2:black, no what the fuck, fuck you what's happening with the dog? I don't know, but to be all honest, right yeah.
Speaker 1:Are we having a different conversation or no?
Speaker 2:I can agree with you. We are having a different conversation. No, I can agree with you. Right, when, the way it usually goes right, the children become successful. Yeah, the children become successful, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then, after the parents, took care of them, and raised them it's then the kid's responsibility to take care of them. That is correct, yeah, but I'm going to tell you right now I'm going to tell you right now, if you level up faster than you're supposed to, this happens a lot faster they don't like it and it's supposed to happen. They don't like it. They don't like it. I agree with you.
Speaker 2:So if I go, hey, they don't like it.
Speaker 2:So if I go, hey, ma, right, yeah, I level up, I start making good money, I say hey, ma, I'm going to help you out. Yeah, you're going to come live by me. Her first response would be I'm not going to go back to Jersey, you're going to come live with me. You're going to come live by me, I'm going to help you out. I don't want to live by Jersey. Well, you're not doing so good where the fuck you are, and she ain't going to like that.
Speaker 1:Correct, but it takes a long time. Right the process and that conversation that you're talking about. You're going to keep raising awareness about this fact, the fact that she's not doing well over there. If you come here, you're going to prolong your life and she's going to feel that and she's going to come. See, there was times.
Speaker 2:But right now you're a loser. Fuck you.
Speaker 2:There was times already, you know, my mom would message me and I don't have a problem doing it because I know my mom will pay me back. She always does. My mom would text me when she wasn't receiving her benefits and shit. Is there any way I can borrow $20, $40, $100 until the first and I would give it to her? My mom always pays me back when she says she would, sure she'll forget. Sometimes I'll message her and say hey, did you receive your check? Yes, I did. Okay, just a reminder. You owe me this. Oh, thank you for reminding me. She sends it over. Wow, unlike some people. Yeah, john, oh my God.
Speaker 1:Crespo or Schuster, no.
Speaker 2:I'm not even sure which one it is. I'm not trying to blast him, but yeah. It took a little bit for him to remember and for me to receive my funds. Okay, don't send him this fucking podcast, asshole I'm not sending shit to anybody, bro.
Speaker 2:But uh, yeah, my mom, I already help her out when it comes to times, right, but she never I don't think would ever be accepted of me taking her under my wing, you know, because that's not the way it's supposed to be. Why not? She feels a parent is supposed to always take care of the kids. Your mom has lost her mind. We already know this. Her mind is not. We already know this. She has a disease that fucked her up. So what the fuck are we talking?
Speaker 1:about here.
Speaker 2:And you know the crazy part.
Speaker 1:Your mom is the easy case here, you know what the crazy part is?
Speaker 2:Okay, my aunt is supposed to be taking care of her. Yeah, she's paid as a caregiver to take care of my mom.
Speaker 1:Yo off air.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh, mm-hmm. Right, no, she's paid as a caregiver. Take care of my mom, but guess who's taking my aunt's all fucked up in the head? Mental health, the whole nine yards.
Speaker 1:A fucked up person's taking care of a fucked up person my mom is the one taking care of my aunt. Oh my God, Do you understand what's happening here See?
Speaker 2:we kept hearing. You know, my mom fell while walking the dog. Well, why are you walking the dog? We already discussed this. You can't walk the dog. You fall too many times. Why isn't my aunt walking the dog? Jill's not feeling well. I was like I don't care. This is the fucking fifth time. You fucking fell. What the fuck? Yeah, and she makes excuses for my aunt. But the point is we keep telling my mom right, You're eventually going to break something that's not going to be able to be repaired. Oh shit, and she goes. I get it. I get it. I'll talk to her. Never happens, Never happens. My sister-in-law, Brittany, came to the point where, you know, my sister-in-law works in a nursing home and she was getting to the point where she was going to challenge my aunt for guardianship. My aunt is considered her caregiver on paper. My sister-in-law was going to challenge that in the court and demand that her and John be given guardianship Because they didn't believe my mom as her caregiver.
Speaker 2:Because right now, on legal paper, my aunt is lifted as her caregiver and Brittany was not comfortable with that because she didn't believe my aunt had what she?
Speaker 2:needed to take care of her because my mom was taking care of my aunt. She was doing all the shit that she was getting her and it got to the point where my sister-in-law Said fuck this, I'm a registered Caregiver in facilities. She's gonna come live with me and your brother. My mom would not Fucking have it. She goes. You have all this stuff on your Plate. No, no, no. I'm still able to Do shit. She won't admit she needs help At times. So how do you expect Me? No, no, no. I'm still able to do shit.
Speaker 2:She won't admit she needs help at times, so how do you expect me?
Speaker 1:That's a very good question, harris, and I think it takes some time to get that trust or that understanding with your mom to say that Harris is a competent human being who has the ability to take care and make decisions for them, right. Obviously, right now you're an idiot. Oh, fuck you, man. Fine, you know what I'm saying. So it's going to be a hard time unless you obviously have the ability to pull resources to be able to then show competency. But that's co-signing.
Speaker 2:Hey man, listen, I'm about to win the million dollar jackpot over at this casino boy. Is that what you're looking forward to? No, I'm looking forward to going out with the boys. Unfortunately, eldar here is missing out on a good time, man.
Speaker 1:I'm missing out on your time, but I'm still going to have a good time where I'm at you. Understand this or no? Yeah, man, but you know, One day it'll be all synchronized, don't worry, Uh-huh.
Speaker 5:You know what I'm saying? I don't know. Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Uh, yeah, fine you believe that or no?
Speaker 2:No, you don't. I've seen shit that it blew my fucking mind. Boy, that's regular shit. No, but this shit right, uh-huh. If I would have done what I, what you did with catherine, yeah, it'd lead to a whole big fucking argument we wouldn't talk for fucking days.
Speaker 1:Are you under the impression that I know something that you don't?
Speaker 2:Well, how do you change? I'm not trying to sound crazy here how do you change a woman's mind? A KitchenAid, Fuck you, oh shit. How do you change a woman's mind that has a mindset? Listen?
Speaker 1:let's remove the woman out of it. How do you change a mind? Because I think the women have a mind and men have a mind, and it's the same mind you have to understand. How do you change a mind? I was always raised.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we talked about this. Cool.
Speaker 1:This reminds me of a very good hey, shut the fuck up man, yeah, can you shut the fuck up, please.
Speaker 2:I was always raised that the woman is always right, happy wife, that the woman is always right, happy wife. You hear this all the time Happy wife, happy life, and I use that sometimes.
Speaker 1:Happy wife, happy life I use that sometimes. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You don't want to piss off your wife, for sure, so you just give her what you give her what she wants, yeah, to keep her calm. Yeah, I want to go here. Oh, no problem, baby. No, no problem, let's go, even if you're miserable. I've seen it with friends of mine they're married.
Speaker 1:Like oh, I want to go here. Do you agree with it or no?
Speaker 2:Yes, no, no, no, no, no. Wait, partly yes, but they're living miserable lives. You see, I have friends.
Speaker 3:Wait a second, you see Something's there to say, like what the fuck? No, but you kicked him there, Elder. No, I didn't. Yes, you did. I have talked to friends.
Speaker 2:I have talked to friends who their wives are like yeah, I want to go here, you're going to go with me. I want you to come out with my friends and their wives. And my friends do it and they put on a smile, they act like they're having a great time and they never admit.
Speaker 1:Have you ever felt that this is the wrong thing and that you wanted to change it for yourself?
Speaker 2:Like in a relationship. Yeah, yeah, you did. I never used to listen to my dad's advice and I used to call my exes out on their bullshit.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it would just lead to an argument and we wouldn't talk for like two days, yeah, and we'd make up and make up sex, and that was it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then it just happened again and then make up sex was good, why?
Speaker 2:I don't know man there was like you don't know why. I actually know why that is. There's this pent up.
Speaker 1:That's what you think, what? There's a very specific thing that happens in the makeup sex that a lot of people don't understand why it happens. What I'm not going to tell you it, you have to figure it out on your own.
Speaker 2:So I talked to my friends, uh-huh.
Speaker 3:And Is it the removal of all the demons and the dirty shit? Fuck you, no.
Speaker 2:No, they talk about how you know they're keeping their marriage together by putting on a fake smile and pretend they're having a great old time. Okay, I say so. You never tell your wife like yo listen, fuck off, I don't want to do this. Yeah, I don't like these people. They go. No, you can't do that. If you want, you know that's going to lead to divorce. Yeah, so he goes. You know I go along with it. I put on a smile. I said let me ask you a question. I said if you say, hey, baby, I want you to come out here with my friends and go fishing, for example, because we used to do that all the time, would you do it? He goes oh, hell, no, she hates fish. And she'll say I'll stay home. He'll say I'll stay home.
Speaker 1:You think you're proposing me a problem that I can't solve.
Speaker 2:What you see what I'm saying, though? No, it's just some fucking irrelevant shit, bro. So my dad always says happy wife, happy life.
Speaker 1:He's wrong.
Speaker 2:And I'm supposed to do that. He goes. You put on a smile, you go. You support them.
Speaker 1:You think he wholeheartedly believes this and he's a rebel. He still was like something's telling him that it was wrong.
Speaker 2:I always used to spew to my dad like, yeah, I called her out, like I got into a fight with my ex Kiri. I got into a huge fight with her because I called her out on some bullshit I don't remember what it was, but we got in a huge fight. Okay, we worked together. Okay, I was. I'm not even going to say it again.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to say it again. I was kind of her boss, but we would see each other and we wouldn't talk to each other at work. We'd just fucking go past each other. Pretend like we were pissed off. We were fucking pissed. We were not talking to each other. I was supposed to be supervising her, but I would not. Every time I saw her I just walked fucking past. We were holding grudges. She didn't want to talk. I'd go up to her like hey, can we talk? I got nothing to fucking say to you and we'd fucking go on and go like that for two days.
Speaker 2:Why were you calling up to her to talk? Because it was ridiculous. What are we in fucking high school? You know what I'm saying and it's like I got nothing to say to you, and she's actually what she's six years older than me, so she was a complete dumbass. But I was like yo, can we talk? And she's like I ain't got nothing to say. I felt like I was in high school and I was dealing with a high school girlfriend.
Speaker 3:He wanted her to come back to you so she can nurse your.
Speaker 2:Uh, no I wanted her to talk about this because I didn't like the awkwardness at work. Yeah, okay, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm supposed to be your supervisor. This make me look bad. I had friends that would come up so what point are you trying to? Make what I'm just. I'm just, I'm just a complete fucking shock at how you do shit, man. I'd love to learn that to the point where it doesn't lead to a fucking argument okay, I'm happy that you are.
Speaker 1:Where is this coming from? Where is the admiration coming from? I'd love to learn how you do things, so it doesn't lead to the same outcomes that I've been conditioned to.
Speaker 2:It's not conditioned. It's to the point where every relationship I ever had, it always leads to the same thing you call someone out on their bullshit.
Speaker 1:So what he's saying is that hey, eldar, I'd like to find out because I want to have a different relationship. Where is that coming from?
Speaker 3:No, he would like to do what he does without it resulting into an argument, and he would like to learn that.
Speaker 2:So you can literally. Let me ask you a question Can you call Catherine out on her shit?
Speaker 1:What do you think I?
Speaker 2:do every single day. I get that, but does it lead to an argument at the?
Speaker 1:end of the day. Are you crazy? Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't.
Speaker 2:Okay, but every time I used to do it, it always had the same outcome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but me and you are different people, do you?
Speaker 2:understand. But how do you do that? How do you get them to accept?
Speaker 1:that criticism. This is why I actually think that you're in good hands and you don.
Speaker 2:I can one day teach you this thing and I'll make you understand what's actually going on, but that's crazy, right, because I, when I used to call my exes out on their bullshit, I did it in a polite manner. I was like yo, you're wrong. I'd look up the evidence, I'd show them. But they would insist I'm right, you're wrong. Don't fucking tell me, like yo, what the fuck I'm in a polite're wrong. Don't fucking tell me, like yo, what the fuck I'm in a polite voice and you're coming at me with. Don't tell me I'm fucking wrong. I know what I'm talking about. I'm showing you the fucking evidence. So you think I'm good at what I do? I know? Yeah, bro, that's why I act that way. When you fucking said that to Cash.
Speaker 5:It's like, hey, sweetie can you take me?
Speaker 2:can you help me take the dogs to the car? Uh-huh, no, I said it like that and my eyes opened like what the fuck?
Speaker 1:You said no and she said, okay, that was it what the fuck and the phenomenon to me is that this was the most basic shit I could have said or done. Right you got. We don't flinch off that shit. You know what I mean? You guys been seen that and to him it's like yo, this is monumental shit.
Speaker 2:If John did that to Brittany, she'd tell him fine, be that way or get your fucking ass up and help me.
Speaker 1:She has to worship the fucking ground I walk on. You know what I'm saying You're God.
Speaker 2:And Jesus is servant.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? You fucking walk that fucking shit.
Speaker 2:You got to keep that. No, I'm not even going to say it Go on, say it.
Speaker 1:Say it, you fucking sexist motherfucker.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying it, say it. You're basically saying you got to keep your woman in line, man. It's not that. You're basically saying she got to worship the war and I won't go.
Speaker 1:What you actually have to do and this is paradoxical is that you have to keep your own mind in mind and check.
Speaker 2:So your own mind in check, so you can't change the way you are is what you're saying.
Speaker 1:What happens is that when you keep your own mind in check your fucking stupidity the individuals in front of you have to align in the way you want them to be, in accordance to your mind, and you create your own reality, which makes you God, like you said.
Speaker 3:Don't do it, Harris.
Speaker 1:Why.
Speaker 3:Don't do it, don't try to figure that out.
Speaker 1:Don't try to figure this one out, I don't even want to hear your advice.
Speaker 2:You've been single for fucking how long. You don't go on dates.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you need to get out a little bit. Get fucking late, bro. You see, like you like giving unsolicited advice, like you think it's fucking, like it's funny or it's no, I'm just saying you're not saying I don't want his advice, man yeah, but you have to have reasons as to why that is like I just did. Man, if you don't want his advice, you're missing out on so much.
Speaker 2:You got advice on a dating life man? Answer the question truthfully Do you have dating life? Figure the fuck out.
Speaker 3:Yes or no, motherfucker? Yes or no? I don't know. Let Elder speak for me.
Speaker 2:That's what I thought, man.
Speaker 1:The bull from New Jersey has spoken so sick yeah. Like without asking him questions around this stuff, how can you make certain conclusions?
Speaker 2:When was the last time you were on a date?
Speaker 1:Those are amazing questions, truthfully, yeah, when's the last time you got?
Speaker 2:laid Yo and don't try to dodge the question. When was the last time you were on a date? When was the last time you were on a date? Oh man, Give me a year. Holy shit, Tell him not to dodge the question, man.
Speaker 5:Don't dodge the question man. Give me a year. Man Ask for a decade.
Speaker 2:When were you on a date? When was the last time you went on a date?
Speaker 3:The same time when Baghdadi died.
Speaker 2:I don't even remember when that was is that true?
Speaker 5:yeah, I mean you gotta trust what he's saying.
Speaker 2:Take his word for it the last time you went on a date was five years ago holy shit why all those questions even matter. I asked him when it last, because man right yeah why?
Speaker 1:why does that even matter?
Speaker 2:because let's put it this way, right, what if no one's dating? Uh-huh, someone's not dating, okay. Can they really give advice on that topic?
Speaker 1:Oh, are you asking a question or are you making a statement? I'm asking the question, but the way you said it it was like hey.
Speaker 2:Well, we all know my tonality sucks.
Speaker 1:No, no, no. I think you're actually stupid. Therefore, you don't have the ability yet to structure questions or statements in such a way where people can actually understand what's going on.
Speaker 2:Okay, that was a question.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Go ahead.
Speaker 1:Say it again in a question way, because I think that it's going to sound a little bit different.
Speaker 2:Can you take dating advice from someone that is not actively dating?
Speaker 1:Okay, what if that person who's not actively dating actually has a perspective that is wider or broader than yours at that moment? Can they? Or can they Absolutely, because they have a broader?
Speaker 2:perspective, let's put it more personal. Oh okay, can Toli give active advice about dating?
Speaker 1:The way I would answer is that when you say the word Toli, I'm not sure if you understand what totally is.
Speaker 2:It's this guy right here. It's this guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that you understand only totally for what you've been presented or given so far. If you really understood totally in totality, I think you would have a very hard time even asking this question in the first place, I've never seen Tully date. Well because I don't think you understand why. Maybe, like, have you ever asked Tully hey, tully, why don't you actually date? Wait, wait, wait. Did you ever ask Tully that? Question.
Speaker 1:Wait, wait, wait. Well, let me ask you this why not? Because I don't want to push? Why not? I don't know, Do you think you this? Why not? Because I don't want to push, why not I?
Speaker 5:don't know. You think that he can't handle that question.
Speaker 1:I think that he thrives in answering those types of questions and because he wants to talk about those things I learned.
Speaker 2:You don't want to crash into who.
Speaker 1:From somebody outside in this room. Yes, okay, who is that? Your mommy and your dad?
Speaker 2:My dad, actually my dad, because he said some he goes, you know people, he goes, even with his friends, right, there's some things he doesn't, you don't want to.
Speaker 1:Okay, so there you go With his friends, right? Have we established that your dad has not really lived the life that he actually desired? Yeah, he doesn't really go out with friends, have we realized that your dad is not living in 2024? Yeah, we've established that.
Speaker 2:So let me ask Toy the question yeah, why is it that you don't date? Oh, now we have a conversation.
Speaker 3:Come on, why don't I date? Okay, what do you consider dating? Come on, why don't? I don't, why I don't date, but like what do you consider like a dating? Like what?
Speaker 2:I'm not just talking about sex, dude. Why don't you date, you know, have a relationship, don't?
Speaker 3:look at me when you're asking this question. Well, because I don't want to right now.
Speaker 1:So you want to be like my brother, david, and live the bachelor life Are you making an assumption, or so you want to be like my brother, david, and live the bachelor life? Are you going to keep asking the question as to why? Why?
Speaker 3:well because, like, not that I understand fully, but I have some inclinations or some ideas, or maybe just some stuff that I've seen and experienced that that, like, leads me to believe that I would like to be a particular type of person, to properly date and not be like a douchebag no, not even a douchebag like. There's particular qualities, I think, that are required to have a proper relationship right, and there's particular qualities, I think that are required to have a proper relationship. I don't want to do that until I'm in a better position to display those qualities and embody them and be that kind of person so that I could have the relationship that I desire. Damn, why? Why Keep?
Speaker 1:Damn why. Why Keep going why?
Speaker 3:Well, well, because, why? Why do I want to do that? Um, because I definitely see the value in having a proper relationship and living a like a particular type of life.
Speaker 2:Um, and I won't settle for anything less oh damn, you know, totally puts on this perspective right and he's got everything fucking figured out like looking at him like you think he has everything figured out right, it's, it's. It's good and bad okay, look, look, look, based on what you just heard now, yeah, it's good and bad at the same time.
Speaker 1:Okay, look, look, look, based on what you just heard now, would it make you stupid, a stupid person, to ask him the questions that you were asking him before? Yeah, it would.
Speaker 2:So I just want to point out right the reason I have this mindset. Okay, that it seemed like totally had everything figured out, right, he's got a good paying job. He's got a big ass house, nice ass out. Right, he's got a good paying job. He's got big ass house, nice ass car, the best car in the world. Yeah, he's got a fucking performance, performance, tesla model 3 performance. You know, it just seems like you have everything fucking figured out, living the best life, but it's. It just proves it's not always what it seems.
Speaker 3:Man, there you go well, it's also not like what it seems. I just think that what it seems to you, maybe based on, like where you're at now. You may have, you may desire a lot of the things that I currently have, but I think you'll get to it. But then, but I think of, if you like, continue at it, then you'll get to a place where you'll realize that that's not what it means to have everything figured out or stuff like that.
Speaker 3:You're wrong about the criteria, yeah, so when you say that, sure, I can have some of the things that you might desire right now or want right now, but it doesn't mean that I have everything figured out.
Speaker 2:Basically, you're saying everything the opposite again of what my dad says. My dad says you need to make enough money that you're living comfortably. He's talking like oh, you want to make. You know the six figures you want to. You know you need to be able to have a house soon. Buy a house.
Speaker 2:All this shit, he says, that's all that matters for your dad that may be the capacity that he can do in his life, which is just fine but he's also the one that says you don't have to enjoy your job. He let my sister go to school for 8 fucking years. I'm just starting my fucking life and he keeps pushing government job, this, government job, this. He doesn't want me to stick here and learn my shit. My sister can go to school this is kind of like a fucking school. Let's admit it, this is a fucking technical training course. Do you realize this? I do.
Speaker 1:And I'm getting paid. I'm getting paid. Come on, he can answer that question.
Speaker 2:I'm getting paid to do. I'm learning a fucking skill that would be invaluable. Is that the word Invaluable? Yes, what's the skill? Sales, right? Yeah, I've watched several videos, just like you and Tully said, learning a sales job goes beyond the fucking job. It goes to the fact of your life. Right, you go to buy a car. You know how to fucking negotiate. You know how to break it down. You know how to challenge the person. You go to buy a house the same fucking down. You know how to challenge the person. Yeah, you got to buy a house. The same fucking way. Mm-hmm, you don't need a fucking realtor to do your fucking bidding, you do your bidding yourself. That's right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:But my dad, right, my dad doesn't get that. He let my sister go. He paid for her schooling for eight years. He's not paying for my fucking learning right, my fucking learning right. I'm getting paid to learn and figure the job out, but he can't give me the chance I feel that he gave my sister. I understand I'm older in my life, I'm not doing it at the same age she did. It might have been a different story if I did it back then, but I feel he's not giving me the opportunity to do it.
Speaker 5:Wait, wait, wait, let me ask you a question boy you ready, boy, yeah, Would you say the approach that you had towards Tully and his dating life was the same your dad had currently towards your job, career and all the other things that he probably thinks about your life. Would you agree with that?
Speaker 2:What do you mean?
Speaker 5:Like you had a certain Do I agree with the way he's coming about it? No, do you agree that that's what's happening? Yes, your dad's impression of your life and things you have figured out is the same impression that you had of Toli when it came to dating. Yeah, absolutely, let's put it this way. So what should be implied? Hold on. So who's I?
Speaker 2:should ask him the questions that I was asking Totally. I should challenge Uh-huh. I just don't want to come off to a point where we have a falling out.
Speaker 5:But the thing is, if you properly ask the questions right Initially, how you started, you started saying like, oh, what you don't date.
Speaker 2:Yeah, see, I think you didn't say hey, why do you not date? I think, in order to do this, I helped him with those questions, mike, I think in order. I helped him with those questions.
Speaker 1:I think, in order to do this, and I think that we need to help him with those questions, I think that's exactly what I was saying.
Speaker 2:I think it kind of has to be like the speech we practice and went over it.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 2:We have to practice and go over how I confront I don't want to say confront Challenge that little switch of confront to challenges.
Speaker 1:that is already a switch of understanding that I might be using the wrong words, because I will explain what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2:When I went, at my dad, I would confront him. I had, I guess you could say, the confront voice. Yes you see, and it would turn heated. Yes, and I would walk outside and fucking hit my vape and sit out there for a half hour and before I walk back in. Give everybody time to cool the fuck off.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Then he'd go. You know, all I want is best for you, right? I'd apologize. He'd apologize and be over. You guys will show each other your private parts. What's wrong with you?
Speaker 1:Something is wrong with me. I'm trying to figure this out.
Speaker 5:I hope you can help me with this, but yeah, but who was like in this situation that just unfolded with Toli, who was under the wrong impression? What do you mean? Like I was under the wrong impression? You were under the wrong impression, and was it your job to go find out and to be under the right impression? Yeah, it's just like the sales job, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you're the one who's making assumptions. So.
Speaker 2:I had to learn how to treat everyday life.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm realizing with Harris why I think he has a chance to succeed, because I think, based on my observation so far, I think he secretly likes to be wrong.
Speaker 1:That's crazy If that's the equation we're going to be wrong. That's crazy. If that's the equation we're gonna be crazy, fucking successful. Yeah, I think he secretly likes to be wrong.
Speaker 3:I've already noticed it a couple of times, because the way he talks about it he's like I don't know if you see it this is the first time Tully's given you a compliment and this is the biggest compliment you can get.
Speaker 1:You better, fucking pay attention. I don't know if you see it, but like this is the first time Tully's given you a compliment and this is the biggest compliment you can get. You better, fucking pay attention.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like I don't know if you see it, but like when he talks about it he's almost like a little bit like yeah, amped up about it. Amped up about it, yeah.
Speaker 5:Well, that's it. You're saying the excitement.
Speaker 3:Like he plays, like like that, like like he'll guide the process of being wrong when talking about it. So you're saying that I was doing this, he kind of knows it, but he's asking a question, but it's
Speaker 1:not a real it's humbly, humbly humbly. I don't even notice this. This is a good thing.
Speaker 3:He's asking questions that are not actual questions, right? So he's like oh, so you're saying that, like the way I talked to my dad was wrong. I was trying to confirm.
Speaker 2:So he's like oh, so you're saying that the way I talked to my dad was wrong? I was trying to confirm it.
Speaker 3:He's not actually asking that question because he already knows, and then you could tell that he's completely fine with it.
Speaker 2:I was trying to confirm it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's a good thing, because wanting to confirm it is humbling yourself and asking the audience of what's going on, to see whether or not you're right or not, and that's a very good call. Yeah, that's very good.
Speaker 2:Back to my dad. Okay, he was a dumbass, I'm sorry. I will not lie about it. Yeah, he will admit he's not the smartest person in the family. He considers himself the third smartest person in the family.
Speaker 1:Did you invite him to the podcast? Because we invited him.
Speaker 2:Don't even get me started, we won't. He considers this woke.
Speaker 1:If this is woke, this is crazy.
Speaker 2:He considers we're doing this to get rich. I explained To get rich. Yeah, I said no, we talk about problems we're having in our lives. Yeah, I said, if anything, this is kind of like don't laugh, all right. It's kind of like jerry springer. Oh my god, why would this be like jerry, you're watching too much jerry springer? Yeah, I got news for you he's actually dead. Okay, dead, you see, oh god. But anyway, um, it's kind of like fucking therapy work. Right, you call each other out, you fucking go over it, you know. Yeah, my psychiatrist asked me are you in therapy? I said yeah. I said sure, I am. We do group therapy every Friday.
Speaker 1:And we do a very good job at it.
Speaker 2:Because he keeps bugging me. He's like yo, you need to go to therapy. I said I'm talking right here, 100%. I said we talk about all the fucking problems we're having in life and we call each other out. Yeah, he's very happy that I'm going to the gym he said it's very good to relieve stress and all this shit Do you realize you can go to Hanson now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do. Back to my dad, okay, it always leads to confrontations. I don't realize how bad it is. I also, half the time, don't realize that my tonality and the way I'm going about things is the wrong way. Why not? I just, I guess, have done it for so long, right, why?
Speaker 1:Oh man.
Speaker 2:I guess it's what I've seen, so it's automatic. I guess it's right. Let's put it this way. My mom and dad, when they were married, they'd always go at it like this my mom would grab us, walk us out of the house, go for a drive, go stay out for a couple hours and bring us back. Okay, I get into an argument with my dad, I walk out, I stay out of the house for 30 minutes, hit my babe, come back and it's over. It's what I've.
Speaker 3:All of these things that you're talking about, everything that you've said today. You can correlate exactly the same things that you're talking about. Everything that you've said today. You can correlate exactly the same things that we talk about in sales.
Speaker 2:See, that's what I was saying. I need to learn how.
Speaker 3:Speaking to your dad, what is that Tonality? Maybe active listening, hearing what he's saying, maybe asking the right questions, understanding how to field objections right, having like, if you understand those things, you can have particular conversations that you can't have when you don't understand them Right. And you see that as you progress in different, different things, you know, like your dad can give you an objection, Like, hey, this is actually going to we, I don't want to put up an electric charger because this is going to devalue the home. Well, what do you mean by that, dad? Right, for example, you start the conversation of there hey, dad, I guess, based on what you think is going on, is most of the auto industry going towards electrics solutions based on all the different brands, or are they more focusing on gas-powered solutions?
Speaker 2:You know, I actually brought that up and I said you know, all the car manufacturers are coming out with electric cars now, dodge got rid of their. You know, superchargers and all that shit. His response His response that shit, his response. His. His response. His response yeah. To me calling out like, hey, all the manufacturers are building electric cars, dodge got rid of their chargers, challengers and all that shit coming out with evs six lines. His response oh, when Trump gets in office, all that shit, all these upcoming laws, are going to just go out the fucking window.
Speaker 1:Trump actually supports electric vehicles in the movement he believes that and his biggest financial.
Speaker 3:He believes.
Speaker 1:Does your dad know this? He believes.
Speaker 2:He believes you ready to hear this. He believes this is all front to get into the office. What these guys say cause half the shit.
Speaker 1:Half the shit that he's confirming that Trump is a liar.
Speaker 2:No, half the shit is true, like the politicians will claim shit but when they get into office it will never happen. Does he know that?
Speaker 1:Elon Musk is the biggest contributor to his campaign. He does. He just did a meeting with Elon.
Speaker 2:He just did a meeting with Elon right? He just did a fucking meeting.
Speaker 1:He endorsed him. He's contributing the most amount of money per month.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he's publicly said that he loves what Tesla's doing.
Speaker 2:But my question is why does he use Rolls Royce instead of Tesla? Who Trump?
Speaker 5:I don't know that. Who said he used?
Speaker 1:Rolls Royce I heard, you just got a brand new Cybertruck?
Speaker 2:Tell me I don't know that who said he used Rolls Royce? I heard you just got a brand new Cybertruck. Tell me, durham got a Cybertruck every video. I've seen he's got a Tesla.
Speaker 3:Every video I've seen but it's different because presidential candidates first off. I don't think he's in a Rolls Royce. I think he's in that one car the Caddy, so is the new presidential vehicle going to be Cybertrucks or Teslas?
Speaker 2:Cybertruck's bulletproof Cybertruck. Can they make it?
Speaker 3:Well, first off, I don't think Cybertruck is a large enough. It's not the intended use of the car. I think he's in a much larger car with particular features that are built for let's put it this way, right. Do I think that Elon Musk can create a better car for presidents?
Speaker 1:By 10x.
Speaker 2:Let's put it this way right the Cadillacs that they currently drive.
Speaker 3:It's an extended version. No, but it's a completely custom-built car. I understand that it's not like a car that you can just buy.
Speaker 2:I understand that, but so are. I've seen it A YouTuber just bought a Wrangler.
Speaker 1:If Elon Musk had a chance, it's extended. If Elon Musk was tasked to create a custom car, like Tony's saying that he will exceed the expectations of Rolls-Royce car by 10x.
Speaker 2:Getting back to it, I brought up the fact that I brought up the fact that all the car manufacturers are going electric. California put out that by 2030, they do not want to sell any more new gas cars. It's banned. They'll sell the used cars, but the new cars it's banned. My dad's like used cars, but the new cars it's banned. My dad's like, yeah, I said New York's doing the same fucking shit.
Speaker 1:By 2030. You don't have to come over here, man, because we have to see the form.
Speaker 2:I said the same shit.
Speaker 1:Before he passes away.
Speaker 2:we have to see the form. I called out his home state, I said New York. The governor put in a fucking thing that they want, by 2032, either all taxis or Ubers to be either electric or hybrids. And he goes yeah, but when Trump gets in office, that's it. It's going to be done. They're not going to push that shit anymore. But why would?
Speaker 1:he even want to wish that upon the world. What's the fundamental problem?
Speaker 2:He holds a grudge against electric cars for some fucking reason. Yeah, he goes.
Speaker 3:yeah, they're fun to drive against electric cars for some fucking reason. Yeah, my yeah they're fun to drive.
Speaker 1:If he's holding a grudge like that, why would he even go in your car or test drive your car?
Speaker 2:His response right. He took the electric Mustang E SUV for a drive at one of the dealerships. He goes yeah, it's fucking fast, but you know they got a lot of problems. And I'm like you. You're admitting a little bit that you like the car speed to it okay, he goes, yeah, but they're unreliable. He won't fucking bolt, but why, what's the grudge?
Speaker 2:you know, I, I want to. I want to either keep going with your tesla or get a new one and I want to drive it for like three fucking years, like hey, dad, you know I haven't needed any maintenance or anything like that, you know.
Speaker 3:But it's not even that Like. The point I was trying to make is that all the things that we discuss in sales and all the stuff, they're all applicable and they're all the same exact principles. Yeah, like principles, the things your dad, I was telling him that you can ask particular conversations, you can learn to field particular objections. That's all that's happening. A stubborn parent is just like stubborn and ignorant.
Speaker 3:Maybe you're an uneducated prospect, prospect Right and like, depending on where your dad is in the sales cycle right now. You might have to follow up in six months or you might have to start with some samples. Samples, and then maybe you get an opportunity with, maybe you show him a sample. He likes what he sees and he might get curious. And if you're in a position where you understand the product or you understand what's going on, you can start answering some questions. You can start asking him some questions.
Speaker 1:Right, it's all the same exact thing yeah the same exact thing you realize your dad is a Neanderthal.
Speaker 2:You know what I realize? Right, he'll admit he likes certain things. Right, but he'll insist he doesn't like him. He likes him, but he doesn't like him.
Speaker 1:Is it an ego play? Is it a pride thing? Why can't we accept progress? Why can't we accept? Oh, you know what? Yeah, it has to be the ego play. Is it a pride thing? Why can't we accept progress? Why can't we accept? Oh, you know what? Yeah, it has to be the ego play.
Speaker 2:You know what he said to me he goes. I said yeah, you know, eldar's giving me a company car, this and this, I'm going to be getting a Tesla. He goes you can't bring it to my friend Mike, he won't work on them. Well, give us fuck. Yeah. I said okay. So what I said? He wouldn't know how to work on them. Anyway, yeah, he goes, he won't touch him. I said okay, so I don't drive into the bronx at 6 am on a fucking sunday.
Speaker 1:What the fuck. That's crazy, bro, that that ignorance level is so deep.
Speaker 2:What a sick threat what a sick fucking threat he goes. You don't understand. Mike gives you deal. He only makes you pay for the parts. I said okay. I said end.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Pretty sure your Tesla's still covered under warranty.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:Isn't it like a high fucking mileage that it's yeah.
Speaker 1:Three years, 300, whatever 30, I don't know how many miles, 50. I said I'm pretty sure the Tesla's still covered under warranty.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh, I said plus, if something happens.
Speaker 1:Plus it's a company car yeah.
Speaker 2:Like put it on me and I said you know. I said you know, I said you're making shit right, how much? Would it sure, the batteries cost a lot of money, right? Mm-hmm Say, the tire popped, the same old fucking tire.
Speaker 1:Why does it always have to be doom and gloom with your fucking type?
Speaker 2:With my dad.
Speaker 1:No, with your type.
Speaker 2:I don't know, but he goes. You know you're not going to get a good deal on brakes. I said they're the same fucking brakes.
Speaker 1:You see that this is gravitational force. Yeah, I said.
Speaker 3:Trying to hold on to like the smallest.
Speaker 4:Oh my God, you're not gonna get a good deal on brakes. Yo I said dad, I said dad.
Speaker 2:I said dad. I said brakes are fucking brakes. Why wouldn't Mike be able to put on brakes, regular brakes? On a fucking Tesla? Sure it's electric, but you're not talking about anything that's actual mechanical.
Speaker 3:Exactly you know what I'm saying electrical yeah, again, like the prospects that have nothing to stand on and say the most ridiculous shit Is the stupidest.
Speaker 2:Are the stupidest and the easiest to talk to.
Speaker 3:You need like.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm going to do. I'm going to buy a brake caliber for a Tesla. I'm going to show them what it looks like. I'm going to buy a brake caliber for a Honda Accord.
Speaker 1:And I break caliber for a hundred cord and I'm gonna put the two together it's.
Speaker 2:It's a waste of money and time. Well, you have another break out. If that's what he needs, then that's what he needs. Yeah, you have another break out before you break out so here we go.
Speaker 1:Let's get back to our topic, and our topic was parenting, and it sounds like, harris, that what we're talking about is that you parenting your dad. It sounds like you're the dad and your dad is becoming the son. Yeah, yeah, into the what, into the world, into the progression, into the fact that we're doing things differently, right, he said, harris, you're not supposed to get paid and like it, you're not. You're over here learning all day long, you're having fun, you're drinking coffees non-stop, you know, you're chilling, you're hanging out, you're laughing, you're farting.
Speaker 2:You're shitting. What the fuck man you can put me on blast like that.
Speaker 1:Eating fruits You're doing everything, all foods. You're doing everything that's good for you. Going to the gym and guess what. We're paying you for it, you know what? Because we believe something different that your dad does. Because, at the end of the day, if you figure this thing out, you can give tenfold and that's going to be great, not only for us, it's going to be great for you as well, but your dad doesn't believe in this structure?
Speaker 2:No, he doesn't, and every day I come home it's either. Have you been applying for these jobs?
Speaker 2:Oh fuck man, that's crazy. I had such a great day at work, I made $2,000 today. Yeah, you know, down the line I'm not going to want to keep doing this. So eventually, you know you're going to take over. Maybe I don't want to fucking take over. He's like. He's like implementing it in me. He's like you know you're the only person that really wants it. Sick and like you know, yeah, he's the only person that really wants it. And sick and you know he goes you know my brother, what are you doing?
Speaker 1:this my brother.
Speaker 2:He's like. You know. My brother started this. When he died. I took it over. You know you're gonna keep this thing alive, like sure when I was a kid.
Speaker 2:I want to take over the business yeah but seeing how hard it is right you lose customers, like he keeps saying, like if I lose Sansone, my company's going to take a huge hit. Why do I want that? You got to go out and you got to find another major fucking company to survive and he did this for over fucking 30 years. Do I really want that fucking headache If I lose this big fucking company? Watching it, sure, sure, when I was a kid it looked all grand. Right, he's done in 10 minutes with the job. But I've seen, I saw him when after covet yeah, hit, he lost a major amount of his company from making 100 to 150 000. It's only making 50 000 a year. Yeah, because he lost, a lot of the people were like, oh, we don't really need to do this to actually sell a fucking vehicle. So he lost his Ramsey dealerships. He's lost his Jack Daniels dealerships, cut back, and they only called him when they needed to work them, when a customer came in or they noticed something. So I'm like it's not worth the fucking headache. See, the new generation is smarter. And he didn't want to hear it Because I said Dad, it seems like you have a whole bunch of headaches.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I said you got to think about it. When a pandemic happened. You went down from 100 to 150,000 to 50,000. He goes, yeah, but I'm going to have my best year yet he goes. I'm going to be close to two this year. I said okay, I said what happens if something else happens in this world Are these conversations?
Speaker 3:actually happening?
Speaker 2:No, I did. I confronted him. I said what happens? I'm not going to lie, it was not a challenge. Thank you, harris. And he said.
Speaker 1:I said You're your dad's bitch. Come on, man Huh.
Speaker 2:You're your dad's bitch. Come on, man, huh, you're your dad's bitch right now I might fib a little bit Say yeah. I'm applying for the job you know like, leave me alone. Yeah, because it's every day I come home. It's the same old shit. Did you hear anything back from this? Damn, did you hear anything back from that? You're at the bottom of the pole, bro. Bro, I come to work. Okay, I work longer hours than he does. Oh, my god, all right he leaves the house at seven o'clock.
Speaker 2:He's back home by one, two in the afternoon exactly what the I come home and I gotta listen to this fucking bullshit. I'm exhausted. I come back from the fucking gym after a long day.
Speaker 1:Leave me the fuck alone, totally riding you all day.
Speaker 2:Leave me the fuck alone. And sure, sure I'm going to fucking snap, bro. I come home after a long day. Leave me the fuck alone.
Speaker 1:Yo, we have to evict him, yes or no. You have to make sure you make as much money as possible. If we get to fucking buy his house, I'll kick him out of the house, yes or no?
Speaker 2:You know what the crazy part is.
Speaker 1:He bought his house for $250,000.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he put $50,000 into it. What a cheap Jew. And he can get over $500,000 for it right now. I said, dad, why don't you sell? He goes, oh man, where the fuck? What am I going to do? Go back to renting? Yeah, what the fuck am I going to do?
Speaker 1:Yo, I'll buy it for $500,000 right now. Tell Tom to get the fuck out of there.
Speaker 2:He ain't gonna fucking do it. He ain't gonna do it. I said the market's never gonna. I'm fucking selling him, bro. I said I just like the fucking shit. I said, dad, the market's as high as it's ever been.
Speaker 5:Yo, he has a magic conversation.
Speaker 2:No no.
Speaker 1:I literally no, I literally said to him I said literally, said to him.
Speaker 2:I said why don't you sell?
Speaker 3:yeah, I don't know if you remember elder, but when they would bring up examples he'd be like I fucking told her like yes, yo, I fucking that guy did you say like that he's like
Speaker 2:no, I didn't say like no, I did though. I did though. I said, dad, why don't you sell? You can get 500. He's talking about it he's talking about it.
Speaker 3:He's talking about it. He goes. You know, my house is worth over. He's all riled up. He goes my house is worth over $500,000 now. No, no, literally.
Speaker 5:No, this is why we get into arguments.
Speaker 1:You're a bad, bad wolf bro, fuck you.
Speaker 3:Do you ever take the pepperoni stick from the fridge and slap him around with it or no.
Speaker 2:It's actually not a pepperoni stick, holy fuck but no, this is why we get into fights, because I'm like Dad. You say it's worth. You can get over $500,000 for it. You paid three in total.
Speaker 1:What the fuck's wrong with you? You're adding $200,000. Doubling your money, man.
Speaker 2:I said go buy a fucking condo somewhere. Calm down, you know what I mean A little bit and I said you know house just like your mother did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, his mother gave him a hundred thousand dollars to put down on that house and back in the day that hundred thousand was probably 400.
Speaker 2:This was. This was 15 years ago exactly. And I I said your mom gave you how much he goes. Yeah, she paid for half the fucking house as a down payment. She goes. It was my early inheritance.
Speaker 1:I said how about we do this again. We have to kick him out.
Speaker 5:He didn't want to fucking hear it, don't worry His parents paid off a $20,000 credit card debt.
Speaker 2:Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1:We can do whatever we want with your dad.
Speaker 2:His parents paid off a $20,000 credit card debt. Right yeah, he said it was a one-time thing. When I got in debt, he let me borrow the money and I? He said it was a one-time thing. When I got in debt, he let me borrow the money and I had to owe it. I was like I didn't get no one-time fucking buyout.
Speaker 1:Don't worry, you're in good hands. We're going to manipulate your debt whichever way you want. Right Easy, easy bro.
Speaker 2:Whatever you want out of it.
Speaker 1:He won't even meet you guys.
Speaker 2:Bro, you just got to do. I got to throw a barbecue in the backyard. You guys just come over there.
Speaker 1:These are my friends, man. This is what we're doing. The whole Tesla gang is going to show up. You know what I mean. He's going to be like yo.
Speaker 2:Who are these guys? Why are there like fucking four Teslas outside right now?
Speaker 3:Something tells me that you're not going to fall in love with us? No homo, no dating. Yeah, I guarantee you you can buy. That's from the first shot.
Speaker 2:Guarantee yeah, but he'll hide it. He'll hide it.
Speaker 1:He'll tell you no, he won't hide it. Yeah, he's probably going to be buzzing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yo, you know what the crazy part is, you can bond with him right. What the fuck, what the fuck you in Brooklyn? He lives in the Bronx. The fuck you think I'm going to bond over those fucking things, he will legit say oh, we're in Brooklyn, I mean that might be the hook for your dad, because he's a loser, but don't worry about it. He'll say you go back to Ukraine. You know, He'll tell you to go back to Ukraine. I'm going to slap him with my watch.
Speaker 1:Throw that watch in his face, He'll go okay watching his face, I go okay, alright, let's do some final thoughts. Harris, it's been three hours, you fucking didn't say anything about fuck you man oh, my god man that's anybody on parenting, and then what totally he's talking about? What do you guys think this?
Speaker 2:world is fucked. It needs to be changed. That's what you. Is that the final thought? No holy shit, I learned a lot. I have to implement sales with my parents in my everyday life. That's gonna be interesting, though it's a funny thing that he associates it with the word sales.
Speaker 1:Well, no, I said that he's gonna start associating it with what you say bro, I'm already doing that shit.
Speaker 2:You saw what I did to Tommy today. I did, yeah, I did. You got me fucking saying this shit. Totally yeah, I was asking tommy, so what are you saying? Yeah, you got me fucking saying this shit asshole yeah, you're fucking rubbing off on me bro, I think it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1:If it's a, it's a good influence.
Speaker 2:It's good as long as it's understood properly tommy's response is are you, you know, mim know? Mimicking Eldar. I said no, you know what I'm realizing? Mimicking Dolly, I'm fucking mimicking Dolly. Yeah, because every day Tolly would sit in the car and he'd go. What are you saying? And. I'd say what are you talking about? I'm not saying anything, so what are you saying?
Speaker 1:Listen. For a very long time you were mimicking your mom and she she led you astray. Hopefully, tully will lead you in the right direction and Tommy goes you're mimicking Eldar.
Speaker 2:And I said no, I said actually Tully, he fucking rolled his eyes like god, but okay, final thoughts final thoughts let's try not to be pessimistic. Let's try to be a little more optimistic, for you at least final thoughts is I have to try to use what I learned here to teach my parents a little bit. I have to become their teachers. Wow, that's basically what you're saying.
Speaker 1:Is that universal knowledge? I'm not going to say parent.
Speaker 2:I have to become their teacher. Right, I tried to teach my mom that trust is dead. She thought I was absolutely high and fucking drunk.
Speaker 1:Yeah, out of your mind.
Speaker 2:And then she went on to blame you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, regular shit, Thank you.
Speaker 2:Harris. Teach. Mike, you're up, man.
Speaker 1:Mike. What are we experiencing here, man? You didn't say shit today. Yeah, you're out, man, mike. What are we experiencing here, man?
Speaker 2:you didn't say shit today yeah, you're a fucking loser.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I'm a pussy. No, I think what we're experiencing is when we're talking. One thing that kind of kept coming to my mind is this thing like people say like deja vu, right? I think that's an interesting feeling. And I wonder say deja vu, right? I think that's an interesting feeling. And I wonder if deja vu is an indicator that at some point or another that maybe you were talking, you know, totally was Plato and I was with somebody else and I was somebody else fuck you man, why you say it like that.
Speaker 1:I think that's what deja vu, you know? Yeah, and Harris was somebody else, and I was somebody else. He was a slave boy. Fuck you man, why do you say it like that?
Speaker 5:You know Yo.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's what they were kind of.
Speaker 2:Yeah, plato and a sock. What the fuck is going on? I don't know. Some gay shit, I don't understand what the fuck you talking about Socrates the philosopher. I don't know who that is. Yeah. Where did you learn this?
Speaker 1:Well, no, Mike's having these feelings.
Speaker 2:I get that, but who's Socrates?
Speaker 1:Socrates is a philosopher that we've been learning about for quite some time now.
Speaker 2:Book learning, not my touche.
Speaker 1:Socrates actually was an old man who was then sentenced to get killed because he was corrupting the youth. Let me guess the Romans.
Speaker 2:The. Greeks. This was the Greeks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in Athens, right, they said. The government said hey, like yo, you're actually corrupting the youth. That was his charge.
Speaker 5:And you know what he was doing, how he was corrupting the youth. Harris.
Speaker 2:He was challenging them.
Speaker 1:He was going around asking them a lot of questions.
Speaker 2:The government's gonna kill me.
Speaker 3:He created our sales methodology.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, yeah. So are we gonna get killed by the government for challenging?
Speaker 1:No, maybe we won't. Potentially, we'll be killed by you or your fucking ancestors. You know what I mean. Who's going to be disagreeing with you? With us?
Speaker 2:Why the fuck would I kill you guys, man?
Speaker 1:Well, we're going to see. You're going to be the dividing factor. Right now we're in like this, like balancing beam. You know what I mean. We'll see. Either you leave, you stay, whatever We'll see what happens. Just make it quick. Oh, shut up, man. If it's going to be really bad, I'm not planning on doing anything man.
Speaker 3:I only said that so far, that the only person that can kill me without me pressing charges is Tom it's.
Speaker 1:Tom right yeah.
Speaker 2:You can't press charges, fool, you'd be dead.
Speaker 5:We don't breast charge it yeah, mike, okay, yeah, so that's. I'm not saying like that's playing out, but you know, sometimes I wonder if that's what it feels like and I think sometimes maybe that's what it means like does deja vu mean that that at one point or another we all knew each other in a previous life and that we're recollecting those moments, those conversations?
Speaker 2:I think I would remember if I ever met you guys.
Speaker 1:Something tells me that you will one day. You wouldn't yeah, you might one day If you stick around, if you have a thick enough skin.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, that's all, that's all I want to say, because I think a lot of times I mean that's big his name is what?
Speaker 1:Socrates, socrates what a sick phenomenon.
Speaker 3:Right, it's only like who the fuck is this guy? Oh my god, totally oh what he's.
Speaker 1:One ugly man, jesus Christ imagine that, harris, that might have been you it looks like you it looks like what the.
Speaker 2:It looks like you. It looks like what the. It looks like he got my dad's nose man Totally.
Speaker 1:What do we got? Final thoughts. Parenting or some of the stuff that you said, I always hate giving final thoughts because it's like, yeah, there's so much to say, right.
Speaker 3:Well, I don't like it because it's like so much is discussed and then you kind of like Leave it. Yeah, it's a cliffhanger. On like one little small thing, you know.
Speaker 1:But you know what? I agree with you. I think it's like that. Final thoughts are like designed to be bad.
Speaker 3:You're right, they're fucking bad, it's like a tactic.
Speaker 1:Like you have to give them because we have not evolved yet.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Every podcast has final thoughts. On what topic exactly. Whatever? You want, whatever you have in you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I feel like, when it comes to bad parenting, I definitely am agreeing more with the fact that there may not comes to bad parenting. I definitely am agreeing more with the fact that, like, yeah, there may not be any bad parenting, that like, everyone got the parenting that they needed at that time in that life yeah and that might just be it, because it led you to particular places, right.
Speaker 3:So it's like the realization of bad, oh, for example, of maybe bad parenting, if you want to call it, that has led you to discover maybe better things, right. So if, like what, if there was a better parenting, a bit better, but you wouldn't be in as good of a place as you are now, that's right. Right, like, how can you guarantee that? You can't, you know Ever. Yeah, like what you can imagine. The most perfect example sure, but like is that reasonable or doable.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:You know you want to say something, harris. Yeah, I just found one of Socrates' quotes here. Say it into the microphone young man, oh shit.
Speaker 1:Why don't you say it before you spray it? Hold on.
Speaker 3:What's going on here, and can you put your vape in your NAPAC please?
Speaker 1:Oh, what's going on here. Can you put your vape in your any pack, please?
Speaker 2:that's a nice one so the quote from this guy Socrates strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people yeah, why did that? One resonate with you, yeah, the secret of change is to focus all of your energy not on fighting the old, but on building the new.
Speaker 1:Why are you looking at me like that man?
Speaker 2:So what the fuck? So what the fuck? Is that basically telling me not to focus on my dad?
Speaker 1:Wow yo.
Speaker 3:That's epic, right? Holy shit, he said so what the fuck? You know? Remember I was telling you. So what the fuck.
Speaker 1:You know, remember I was telling you, mike, that like the fact that like we're not really saying anything new bro, we had a fucking hundred episodes that we fucking discuss a lot of these concepts on too. You know what I mean. And like he's like yo, why are we talking about parenting? Because we talked about parenting. But the fact that we have Harris and that it's those ideas are landing on Harris and the way that he's perceiving them are so interesting, the way he's perceiving it is absolutely sick To us. It's like it's new. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5:Because he's perceiving it in the most. But also, harris is like the biggest, like genuine way. That's all we had too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like he's, like what the he's the youngest, he they try to understand it.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean Like this one. There are some who are naturally fitted for philosophy and political leadership, while the rest should follow their lead and let philosophy alone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see, he's saying that some people are just cut out to be fucking idiots and they should just go and die on the fucking front lines, you know the punishment which the wise suffer, who refuse to take part in the government, is to live under the government of worse men this is a very interesting one and I've been struggling with this one a little bit about voting and shit.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, you know, yeah, but I think that because I I don't think that socrates, um, maybe took an account the fact that the government could be so big, that it's not just greek.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is I. This. This would agree with that. Oh, the measure of a man is what he does with power. Sick bro. Wise men speak because they have something to say. Fools, fools, because they have to say something. Wow, so I'm a fool right now.
Speaker 1:Tony, it's your point, alright. Well, fuck man, there were so many good things that I wanted to say. Or I thought I was, um, tony, can you finish your things again? Fuck man, there were so many good things that I wanted to say. Or I thought I was um, tony, can you finish your things again? My things, yeah, it was like remind me of some of the things you said, because I was going to roll off of that.
Speaker 3:He's drunk, that's a good point the last ones that I was saying yeah, like you said, there was two things the parenting, oh, like the different topics, you're saying yeah, yeah, yeah, we discussed bad parenting. Uh-huh, we discussed. Why do people view the truth as hate? Okay, I guess, right. Yeah, and like how do we get to that place where I guess this happens? Yeah, oh, yeah there you go. That's it, I got it happens yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, there you go. That's it, I got it. So what I was going to say is that, on both topics is that the kicker a lot of the times, the kicker that it's kind of irking us a little bit is the judgment on things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yes, yeah, okay that we judge the fact that like oh, it looks like this is the way it is, and like something is the way it is, and like something is bad or good, something is bad as good or good. And I think that if we have the ability, as maybe philosophers or thinkers, to be able to remove that a little bit and seeing things again just for what they are, because we understand that like look, we can't really answer Toli's question about like wow, how did we get here? Like what the fuck? Because there's so many variables that got us here. It's hard to identify all those variables.
Speaker 1:So we kind of like if we were to take a more empowerment, that seems to say like it is what it is and the reason why we're here is it's destined, there's a cause and effect of things and it's everything is proper. There's a cause and effect of things and it's everything is proper. There's a domino effect to all the stuff and, trust me, it's correct. I can't use the word trust me, because we debunked that, but understand, or like understand, that this is the correct sequence of things, of events that got us here. So if there was a sequence of events, how can we have any kind of displeasement or a bad taste about how things are happening.
Speaker 5:Yeah, how I feel. A lot of times Tully has that struggle, he does. He does have that struggle. Yeah, with that like yo, how do we get here? How do we get here? He always wants to answer that question.
Speaker 1:And I think that the life and the way things are and like there's justice in the world. Despite the fact that sometimes we can't see instant karma, like we say on the internet or whatever there is instant karma. I mean delayed karma, not instant, but delayed maybe. Probably there is instant as well all the time. We just can't see it or we're not sensitive enough to understand how it's affecting us. So, because there's justice, it gives me a sense of peace, like, like yo, like everything's the way it's supposed to be, despite the fact that we a lot of times we're like oh fuck, why the fuck is this happening?
Speaker 5:but what you're saying, if you, obviously, if you believe that, no, that is tremendously empowering. It's hard to do. It's hard to do I understand it, yeah, but then to universally apply that knowledge, again because of our own attachments.
Speaker 1:To be wise is to be able to implement what I just said in totality. Yeah, and I'm not doing that. I just, oh, yeah, in the realm of understanding it and trying to like pick a little bit out of it, to to embody myself, to be stronger and be okay with it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It's hard, that task is hard to do, but if we do it, I think that we get closer and closer to understanding how things are, gravity and all this other stuff that works psychologically in us that brings us closer to some kind of oneness, or like peace and happiness.
Speaker 2:Your mom.
Speaker 5:But is the oneness, the peace, the happiness Is that, in other words, we're saying understanding and respecting the way things work. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And seeing things for what they are and accepting them obviously into our lives and then allowing our lives to live in accordance of that same structure, and when we do that we feel good about ourselves and we have peace.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, just feel that like it's more like, once you realize these things and start to understand them, and maybe you like, along the way, you try to challenge some of those concepts. Why? Well, like the, the challenging, I think, of some of those concepts come with the resistance of the application of them towards your already existing life. That you know, because it's a lot easier to apply those concepts and have that belief towards things that you haven't like, you haven't created attachments to it, like almost, if you want to call it, your previous life. Okay, does that make sense?
Speaker 1:It's hard to make sense. Mike, did you understand that? Do it again.
Speaker 5:I always thought you were going somewhere completely different with that oh.
Speaker 3:Like. I'm viewing it as that like, for example, like like um before like you, you, uh, before you um stumbled upon some of these like, for example, like truths or like concepts or like ideals right Like you. Some of these like, for example, like truths or like concepts or like ideals right like you, were a particular person with particular types of relationships, like with particular, let's say, like family right or if you or or if you had it in close friends, but but I'm more talking about it with family, but it also does, I think, apply to uh friends right was like an identity that, like you, were right and partially like still are right.
Speaker 3:I think it's a little bit more challenging to apply those towards more existing identities and like with family, for example, than it is to like new people that like come into your life like post this kind of this kind of part of you right, like um, um, because there there aren't, those like existing attachments or existing things that you have buried inside of yourself, that you may not be exactly so conscious about or understanding, but they caused you, but they still cause you some levels of like potential happiness or or pain, right, um, but you, but you're not so so conscious to them yet because they're like they're more hidden inside of you and you don't see them yet because you're you're trying to like the new, you is trying to understand, possibly like part of like the old you right, and um, the application of those things to the old you are like very tangled and and then, and then and, and sometimes difficult to like, uh, unwrap, right, yeah, so that that, um, that's what I was saying. Does that that make make sense?
Speaker 5:Yeah, no, I understand what you said, but like, how did like? Why are we saying that? Um, how does it tie in? Like, it's just like a statement which I agree with.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, it was the same. When I think, in response to what, what were you guys saying?
Speaker 1:Harris is having a very hard time staying awake.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not staying awake.
Speaker 5:He's hungry. Who's it called?
Speaker 2:I'm hungry and I'm lost.
Speaker 1:You know what, but it's good that you're actually saying that.
Speaker 3:Yeah you were talking about something and I was having a response to what you were saying. Do you remember?
Speaker 1:what you were saying, are you crazy? I'm a little bit drunk, bro.
Speaker 3:You don't remember what you were just saying.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to lie, I had a shot you rambled for it Me and Harris were in the same land. I looked at him and was like, yeah, exactly, I feel the same way.
Speaker 3:No, we were talking about. Why is something difficult? Or why is it like something in my Something?
Speaker 1:difficult was why Tolly has a hard time with some of the things that we discussed, which was accepting the fact that, oh, yes, Elder was talking about that, like he tries to pull in to some of these ideals and apply them into his world.
Speaker 3:And then you guys, and then Nick, you were saying that I have difficulty with accepting like the process of things and like the natural order of particular things.
Speaker 5:No, no, I was saying that a lot of times you ask the same question. You try to get to the core. Where did this start?
Speaker 3:But that's because I have a problem at times with the natural order of things or the process of things right. So sometimes in the different topics that we talk about, I'll go that route where I'll try to figure out. I guess almost like a hack.
Speaker 5:Oh okay, so what you're saying is you're trying to make sense of this by digging in the history of that thing.
Speaker 3:No, I'm saying that I find it at times difficult to apply, or maybe to do, some of the concepts on the attachments that I created prior to the acknowledgement of these attachments that I created prior to, like, the acknowledgement of these things that we're talking about now. Um, because, like they're so like tangled in like who you are and like what happened in, like the attachments that you created, and you're not, like fully aware of what of like what's actually going on, and it's a lot more difficult to apply some of these concepts to people like that, like your family, for example, than it is on like, for example, like someone like Harris oh fuck you.
Speaker 2:Why do I always go for an example man, for example? Thank you for that totally yeah like that.
Speaker 1:That's what I was saying you know what it's like it's yes and was saying yeah, but that's like. You know what it's like. It's yes and no because, at the end of the day, life is going to continue and it's going to be inevitable for him to go towards the fact that, like what the truth of the matter is, because the truth always.
Speaker 5:I agree with that. Yeah, so it's like there's a reason that I guess there's a reason that those webs that you are saying are tangled. There's a reason you haven't untangled them, but eventually you will get to that in the trajectory of the way you are, there's something stopping you now, conscious, unconscious. There's 100% a reason. But the way the trajectory of your life is, you will eventually have to face them yeah, I think so yes, and you will eventually have to face them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think so, yeah, and yes and no, like it has to face them. But I think it's going to just be an organic transition towards like growing up and maturing and some of the things will require like they'll come from a place of growth and growth and like needing to fulfill your purpose. If you don't fulfill your purpose, it's going to be like life or death situation. It's just going to be fight or flight, and the fight or flight is, I mean, at least in him, I think, or anybody else. It's just like all right, cool, I just got to have to act Like you're not going to choose fucking fault. You just can't. I think that's what it is.
Speaker 1:It's not even a matter of choice anymore.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's just a matter of time.
Speaker 3:But like in regards to what?
Speaker 1:To making the choice of where you want to stand, because life is life.
Speaker 5:Yeah, we're gonna get old.
Speaker 1:Our parents will die. Sickness is part of life. Old age is part of life, mm-hmm, like we live. Mm-hmm. Like calm the fuck down and carry on Acceptance of all that processes. What are you gonna do? So how do you like.
Speaker 2:How do you know if you're? Do you not feel guilty, right Can?
Speaker 5:you put that out About what Hold on, I'm going to explain it About eating that extra cheesesteak.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, Fuck you. Oh, okay, my dad, right, my dad, like I, was making plans. I was going to go out with some friends, or I came home from a long day day and I just wanted to relax. Yeah Well, I'm going to go visit grandma. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I was like, okay, he goes, so are you not coming? I said, well, you know either, I had a long day. I made plans and he'd ride the guilt trip Like, oh well, you know she's not going to be here forever and you know you'll only see her once in a while, yeah, and it's like so you turn around to your dad one day or I say, hey dad, uh, that's part of life, bro.
Speaker 1:So what? And he's like you know, no one day. It is what it is Like calm the fuck down.
Speaker 2:But what he's saying is, if he's going to visit, right Okay.
Speaker 1:That's your choice, dad. You're still.
Speaker 2:He always tries to guilt trip. You're still fucking.
Speaker 1:You know guilt tripping this bullshit.
Speaker 2:Like I should revolve my life around her. If she wasn't sick, would we be doing this shit, these rituals? She's 89 years old. My grandmother on my mom's side. She doesn't remember anything you even said.
Speaker 1:My grandmother on my mom's side.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's not much younger, right, she's 87. Okay, she lives alone in Jacksonville, florida. Mm-hmm, my mom wants to try to get her to move down wherever they finally stay. Mm-hmm, stay my grandma's, like I ain't going shit, I'm staying my ass right here in Florida. You know she's surviving. We have a relationship, everyone has a relationship with her. We fucking Skype, we do all this shit. Why does my life have to revolve around? I'm not trying to be rude my grandmother, that's right, it's not supposed to, bro, because she's getting old. I need to have a life.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's supposed to. And I don't think that if you sat down with your grandma and said, hey, grandma, she wouldn't remember anything the next day. Number one, she would not remember anything the next day. And number two, if she actually understood what you're saying, she's gonna say son, go fucking live your life. You fuck, you want from me. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like I mean my grandmother asked me every time you got a girlfriend, every fucking five minutes you got a girlfriend, just wants you to fuck and you know, are you gay.
Speaker 3:Oh my god I don't have a girlfriend, but are there any hoes around here looking for a?
Speaker 2:young boy. She goes, she'll. Probably. No, it's where to go? She'll probably go, I don't know. Let me ask you know. That's just who my grandmother is.
Speaker 1:So, harris, to answer your question, is that yes, at the end of the day, if you really pay attention to what's going on around us, a lot of times we've been in the perpetual cycle of some nonsense that's been preached on from years, decades, centuries to us, over some nonsense and shit that we shouldn't be believing. We should change our lives and make it for the better. The truth of the matter is your 90-year-old grandma. She's going to fucking die. She's going to die sooner than hopefully you do.
Speaker 2:Can I just share something a little funny before we go down this sad?
Speaker 1:rabbit hole. It's not a sad rabbit hole. It's not a sad rabbit hole. It's actually a very good hole.
Speaker 2:But anyway my grandmother. One time she asked me she goes, you got a girlfriend? I said no, she goes, I'll be a girlfriend.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I'm like yo. Where the fuck is this going? What if?
Speaker 3:you tell her you better take out the indentures, then what the fuck? Where is this going? What the fuck?
Speaker 2:My dad goes, mom. My dad goes, mom. That's Harris, your grandson, oh, oh.
Speaker 4:You were trying to get a quickie in I thought I recognized that smile.
Speaker 2:I was like what the fuck? You see, that's crazy. Like some days she'd recognize me, she goes. Oh, you still never got the those, those buck teeth fixed.
Speaker 1:Did you realize that she was about to suck your dick if your dad wasn't there?
Speaker 5:oh my god, that's disgusting yo, that's not what happened she has, she has a boyfriend she has a boyfriend.
Speaker 1:She forgot she has a boyfriend named Sid she goes to my dad all the time she goes.
Speaker 2:yeah, your father was just here and my dad goes. Mom, my dad is Gene, not Sid. Dad died a long time ago. There you go, no. No, I just saw him the other day. No, that was your boyfriend, sid.
Speaker 3:Wait Sid visits her in the home.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he stays the night, oh shit.
Speaker 1:Sid is packing huh, so he got a nine iron, or what.
Speaker 2:Nine iron yeah, he's 98.
Speaker 3:Whoa wow, and he visits her.
Speaker 2:Dude. I asked him. I said what the fuck is your? You didn't say that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I did, I did, I swear to God.
Speaker 2:I said how the fuck did you live so long?
Speaker 3:Did you tell him how the fuck? Yeah? No, he didn't say that. No, he curses like a steam train.
Speaker 2:She said excuse me, sir. No, I said fuck, do you live so long he goes? Actually, I worked out until I was like 88. I ran fucking half a mile marathons. All the time I said what the hell he goes. I'm extremely fit. Well, now he's starting to slow down a little bit, yeah, but he goes. I worked out every day and I stayed fit. Look at chuck norris. Fuck's sake, 88 fucking still lifting what 300 pounders yeah, I don't know, but whatever, all right.
Speaker 1:So what are your final fucking thoughts, motherfucker?
Speaker 2:Our second round of final thoughts. Second round hey, fuck you, we already gave final thoughts. I'm going to give one more. I'm going to give one more.
Speaker 3:I'll fuck you.
Speaker 2:Go fuck yourself, turn down, fuck lane, fuck road, anything you want.
Speaker 1:Talk about your parents.
Speaker 2:Let's go. Stop fucking guilt tripping your kids, man. If they don't want to do something, don't make them fucking do it. They're adults. Let them live their fucking life. If I want to go have a, drink.
Speaker 1:Don't do it, paris. This is philosophy. Why do parents use this method of guilting their kids into it? Why do they use this method? Put on your thinking cap to get what they want oh is that selfish or no?
Speaker 2:yeah, it's selfish.
Speaker 1:Wow, go ahead, mike. What anything else? We're good. I think we're good. Let's get everyone's opinion why?
Speaker 2:do parents guilt trip? Mine is selfish, mike his is selfish, it's definitely selfish but, I hear a bug coming selfish.
Speaker 5:Mike, his is selfish. It's definitely selfish, but I hear Buck coming, I mean that's the right answer Harris. But it's the only language they know.
Speaker 3:How is that supposed to make sense? It's the evil version of philosophy.
Speaker 5:They're working with what they know, so they're approaching that subject with what they know, what they think is the right thing to do. My mom doesn't do guilt, and that language is guilt.
Speaker 2:She doesn't do it. If I say something, she accepts it. You're an adult dude.
Speaker 5:But if you want to get out of it, you have to find the right language to explain to them why you have your reasons for not doing that, instead of just throwing a fit and flaring your paws.
Speaker 2:Like even my aunt, right, she got COVID. She goes damn, I'm not going to be able to go visit mom, but it's not like she's going to be able to remember it anyway. What is the guilt? Where is the guilt in this statement? I'm just stating my dad doesn't understand. Like my aunt goes oh shit, I ain't going to be able to visit mom because I got COVID, but it's not like she's going to remember it anyway.
Speaker 2:But my dad insists you know it's about being there. She doesn't even know. She thinks I just arrived every two minutes. Hey, it's great to see you. How you doing, you got a girlfriend. No, five minutes later, hey, it's great to see you, you got a girlfriend.
Speaker 1:That's sick yeah.
Speaker 2:It's kind of you gotta be patient, you think your dad lost your mind or no?
Speaker 1:What His mind?
Speaker 2:in his mind. My dad thinks he's going to lose his mind, like his mother, or he's going to die. He's anticipating his death.
Speaker 1:It sounds like he lost his mind and you know who? The only person that can save him right now? Me Really.
Speaker 2:Isn't that what you're going to say?
Speaker 1:Is that like an obvious answer, or was it like you actually thought about that?
Speaker 2:No, you said I got to become his teacher, his parent. I'm the only one that could save it again, guys.
Speaker 3:It's an obvious answer, though, elder, you always do this.
Speaker 2:You just can't give anyone fucking credit. Kiss my fucking ass. Outro Music you. Thank you.