130. Evolution of Harris

What if your foul-mouthed, "lizard man" quirks could launch a viral career? In this transformative episode of Dennis Rox, hosts Eldar, Toliy, Harris, and guest Tommy (with talent scout Joe from Viral Nation) chronicle Harris's raw journey from Nebraska hardships to becoming a podcast phenom. Watch as rock tumbling becomes a metaphor for personal growth—polishing rough edges into shine—while Joe spots Harris's goldmine of catchphrases like "go fuck yourself" for merch, reality TV, and brand deals. Dive into self-reflection, detaching from ego-driven goals, and why writing (or any passion) should fuel joy, not validation.

Key takeaways include:

• Embrace your breadcrumbs: Follow life's subtle clues for authentic self-examination and growth, avoiding forced paths.
• Detach from attachments: Serious ego ties to outcomes breed defensiveness—let go to defend less and live more freely.
• Monetize authenticity: Viral traits like Harris's "lizard" reactions can expand beyond podcasts into content creation empires.
• Balance goals with happiness: Pursue passions like writing for fulfillment, not riches—true success follows naturally.

The most insightful moment? Tommy reflects: "What we're talking about really is for me to try to examine the truth, examine myself. I think it came to that point because I've just, in a way, been following my own breadcrumbs." This captures the essence of organic evolution.

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Transcript

[00:00:00] Dennis: On this week's episode, 

[00:00:02] Tommy: what we're talking about really is for me to try to examine the truth, examine myself. I think it came to that point because I've just, in a way, been following my own breadcrumbs. 

[00:00:13] Eldar: When you take yourself seriously and you develop attachment to certain things, as soon as those things are being out in the open, and people disagree with you on those things, but you naturally have to defend yourself.

[00:00:23] Why? Because you have a horse in a race. 

[00:00:26] Joe: If, if writing is what makes you happy, 

[00:00:28] Eldar: yes. 

[00:00:28] Joe: Then let writing just make you happy. Don't let writing or making this book an ultimate goal to prove something, to make you rich, to become a writer.

[00:00:44] I am here before prob, I don't know if you had anyone else come. 

[00:00:47] Eldar: Well, yeah, we actually submitted it to, to a, to a couple, and you guys are the first ones who kind of reached out. 

[00:00:52] Joe: Okay. 

[00:00:52] Eldar: So we were like, okay, let's just, let's see what, you know. 

[00:00:54] Joe: Yeah. You, because this is, this is fairly fresh. Yeah. Really. And the quicker I can get, you know, involved with, uh mm-hmm.

[00:01:02] Representation. 

[00:01:03] Eldar: Yeah. 

[00:01:03] Joe: The quicker, um, you know, ta the, the talent that's here, Harris and whoever else is part of, part of this team mm-hmm. Can, uh, can find that so 

[00:01:13] Eldar: mm-hmm. 

[00:01:14] Joe: You know, thi this, this is, this is what I'm here to scout. We had, we had, we had people scout. 

[00:01:20] Eldar: Mm-hmm. 

[00:01:21] Joe: We've had people, we had the attention on him.

[00:01:23] Okay. And, uh, they sent me the agent Perfect. To see, to see, to see. What's out there? 

[00:01:29] Eldar: Okay. 

[00:01:29] Joe: Well, 

[00:01:29] Eldar: do you have any, do you have any questions regarding the clip that was submitted? Like how, how did that resonate with you at least, or Maybe So there was, you know, the biggest buzz around that clip was they, they didn't understand what Lizard Lizard people, lizard man was.

[00:01:44] Can you bring, can you, yeah. So the lizard is just, I guess one of the many, if to explain it is one of the many little, um, trademark little things that, uh, Harris kind of does. 

[00:01:54] Joe: Mm-hmm. 

[00:01:54] Eldar: Right. It's a kind of a natural little response to maybe, uh, uh, to really define it as to like, maybe he likes something, he tried something, he really liked it, so he gets like a response to like a lizard response.

[00:02:04] So it's like sticking out the tongue and kind of like, oh, you know? Yeah. It's like 

[00:02:07] a, like a tail wag. 

[00:02:09] Like a tail wag. Yeah. Yes. That's a good, that's a good way to put it. Yeah. You know, so, um, and we, we found that to be brilliant, you know? Um, so that's why we're, we want to incorporate that in all the little short clips that we have.

[00:02:20] But before, I guess we continue, Harris, do you want us to go 

[00:02:23] change your diaper here 

[00:02:25] Harris: or go fuck yourself? 

[00:02:28] Joe: Yeah, 

[00:02:28] Eldar: yeah. 

[00:02:29] Joe: There you go. That's another 

[00:02:30] Eldar: one, right? Yeah. 

[00:02:30] Joe: That's like the go fuck yourself 

[00:02:32] Eldar: is a very 

[00:02:32] Joe: natural kind of occurrence. Oh, fuck 

[00:02:34] Eldar: you. 

[00:02:34] Joe: Yeah. 

[00:02:35] Eldar: Oh, fuck you. 

[00:02:35] Joe: Yeah. So that those, those specific, uh, clips have been being, you know, reshared over and over and over.

[00:02:43] Go fuck yourself. 

[00:02:44] Eldar: Yeah. 

[00:02:45] Joe: And all those things. So there seems to be a soundboard of a lot of his sayings. 

[00:02:49] Eldar: Yes, for sure. And like I said, he's got a bunch of them and, you know, I think we, we think at least that those things are kind of gold. Yeah, 

[00:02:56] Joe: we even have some, uh, prerecorded, right? 

[00:02:58] Eldar: We do not, not not on this card, but Oh yeah, we do.

[00:03:00] We definitely have those, but like I said, we don't want to give everything away right away. Mm-hmm. You know? So, um, but yeah. Um, yeah. So I'm glad that you like the lizard. 

[00:03:10] Joe: Yeah. So I mean, with, with, um, with, with a lot, with what we do 

[00:03:15] Eldar: mm-hmm. 

[00:03:15] Joe: You know, the talent that's out there, they, they could find themselves expanding beyond podcasts.

[00:03:23] I don't know how long you've been, been on, involved with the podcast world. 

[00:03:27] Harris: Two months. 

[00:03:28] Joe: Two months, okay. So if this is your main source of, of entertainment or if you expand outside of there, uh, that's what, that's what the agency is looking to gravitate, to figure out and, and, and capitalize and monetize you as best as possible.

[00:03:44] Now, if you hear and, and your, uh, your thoughts and your, your comments and your stories are best told on a podcast, then, then you go with that and you got ad revenue that comes in that you could submit into Dennis Rocks. You have partner deals. We 

[00:04:01] Eldar: actually, we are actually already talking about merch and stuff like that.

[00:04:03] And actually product. Exactly. There's a, there's a thing that's gonna come out. There's a whole season gonna come out about him actually, uh, getting into a new hobby, which is called. 

[00:04:10] Harris: Rock tumbling. 

[00:04:12] Eldar: Yeah. Yes. Rock 

[00:04:13] Joe: tumbling. 

[00:04:13] Eldar: So that, yeah, that's something that's in our back pocket. That's definitely, uh, one of those things where we're gonna sell some products as well.

[00:04:19] So can you 

[00:04:20] Joe: expand on, on what rock tumbling is? 

[00:04:22] Harris: Well, it was actually, uh, ELD a's brilliant idea. Uh, I've been living, I was living in Nebraska for, what, three years? 

[00:04:31] Joe: Yeah. 

[00:04:31] Harris: Uh, I'm, I guess you could say I'm kind of an idiot. Uh, everything I do, uh, I got a foul mouth. Uh, go fuck yourself, bro. Okay. But, um, they have been trying to, I guess, shape me into what I need to be, but they're trying to take everyone on a journey of my day-to-day life, how I act around them, how I am in public, and, you know, people just like it.

[00:05:03] Eldar: So do you tumble rocks at all? 

[00:05:06] Harris: Well, you know, 

[00:05:06] Eldar: well, yeah. Connect. Connect. He was, yeah. He was gonna, yeah. Let him connect the 

[00:05:09] Harris: story. So we just finished our first week of tumbling the rocks. You know, you put all the, uh, polish in there. Mm-hmm. Uh, and you make them sparkle like they're trying to do with me right now.

[00:05:19] I'm a blank rock. 

[00:05:20] Eldar: Mm-hmm. 

[00:05:21] Harris: And they're trying to evolve 

[00:05:24] Eldar: me. But you're not fondling these rocks. 

[00:05:26] Harris: No, I'm not fondling to make 

[00:05:28] Eldar: sure, but some of them do look like anal beads. 

[00:05:32] Harris: You sound of a bitch. 

[00:05:33] Eldar: Yeah. So, uh, yeah, no, there's a significance there. Right. Um, what we've discovered when we started doing a little bit of research about rock tumbling for Harris is that it takes a long time to tumble a rock.

[00:05:44] Joe: Mm-hmm. 

[00:05:45] Eldar: You know, and like you said, he's connecting the fact that we're trying to maybe tumble him a little bit, um, into a better human right. Like you said, he got a, a foul mouth. Maybe he's a little bit rough around the edges. Right. But hopefully in this environment, he can go into something, he can grow into something much better and much more beautiful.

[00:06:02] Right. And the rocks that he's actually tumbling now is going through the same thing Right. Through the whole process of, you know, uh, shuffling them up together with grit, you know, for a very long time. First week, second week, third week. And there's a whole steps to it, the whole process. And we actually documenting it right now in hopes that a, a at the end of it all, after many, many, many weeks, you're gonna see a very nice, beautiful product.

[00:06:23] And we hoping the same thing. Obviously polishing a human, it takes a lot longer. Right. But I think that there's a connection between those two, uh, activities. You know, so, and, uh, we'd like to document that because I think that in our hands, at least in this podcast and what we're trying to do, I think Harris can grow into somebody who is competent, who is, uh, good, productive, and all the other things that make a good, productive member of society.

[00:06:48] Joe: It sounds good because, you know, not only filing, not are you stumbling, we are stumbling across, you know, viral content creators. There's also a great message behind the fact that 

[00:06:59] Eldar: yes, 

[00:06:59] Joe: you're not just out there trying to, you know, um, make a mockery of, of people or the society. You're actually trying to build something on top of that.

[00:07:08] So you got two positives. You're, you're becoming viral because of the character you are, and people are falling in love with that. And also you are on a journey to better yourself. It will only propel, uh, you know, your image higher and expand yourself out to more and more companies that want to get involved, whether it's reality TV shows, whether it's commercial work, whether it's brand deals, you know, uh, everything, the, the choices there are that they are endless.

[00:07:39] You know, it, it could, it could go as far as you're willing to expand yourself. So that's 

[00:07:44] Eldar: a good, yeah, and I, and I think, I think we, we've come to this phenomenon. We've, when we first had a couple of podcasts told, I think you remember it, where, um. We had a topic, I forgot what the topic was, but I think it was the second or third podcast where we talked about very specific thing.

[00:07:56] And Harris was still about, I wanna be viral, but I wanna be stupid. I wanna do jackass stuff. And we were like, you know, we started digging deeper and deeper in that, and Harris found, found himself to be, I guess, maybe reflecting on all that stuff. And he realized that he doesn't want to be, that he doesn't want to be a stupid kid who just hurts himself in order for people to laugh and then hold on Harris.

[00:08:16] And then within that realization and, and, and reflection, we actually saw that Harris actually was turning to be a, like, he looked better, like right in front of our eyes. We, we recorded it on audio, but me and Mike, we all confirmed like, wait a second, he looks different. Because he had the sense to realize what he realized.

[00:08:35] And he is like, yeah, sure. I, I might've been an idiot, or I had to be a thug back in the day when I was in a shelter on all this other stuff. He had a really good story, right? But now he doesn't have to be, he can be vulnerable, he can be a good person, and he can really go lean into a, you know, a, a better life.

[00:08:49] So we saw that, and I think that there's a great potential for that. And I think if the world sees that, I think this can be actually very good. 

[00:08:55] Joe: Yeah, I mean, if you're documenting it, uh, and exists for people to see, people to hear, that's all you really need. Uh, you know, we take care of the rest. You know, we have a team that figures out your A to B, how you get to places, whether it's, you know, uh, ordering your Ubers, uh, taking care of your documentation, uh, getting your plane tickets to go to and from.

[00:09:19] Um, uh, ha handling other podcast interviews, YouTubers, creative content collaborator, events. Um, and this is where you showcase and expand. And when these people all come together, they know who each other are. Uh, they work together. They just continuously, uh, expand and grow. So the more you document the better.

[00:09:41] Um, yeah. And, um, 

[00:09:43] Eldar: um, I think that's in a nutshell. 

[00:09:45] Joe: Mm-hmm. 

[00:09:45] Eldar: Right. And obviously there's a lot more meat and potatoes out there, which you get to see maybe, right. Um, sooner or later as I'm, I'm preparing that portfolio for an unveil. Um, 

[00:09:56] Joe: yeah. So today, I, I'm, I'm, I'm left to, to go back to headquarters, um, and discuss what I, what I, you know, what I encounter, what I discovered, and if there's anything else you wanna send me with Yeah.

[00:10:08] Whether it's we shoot something. I see you have a DGI mm-hmm. Uh, pocket recorder. Those are all over the office. That's, that's like the industry standard of what all the content creators are carrying. Uh, 

[00:10:20] Eldar: okay. That's sense. 

[00:10:22] Joe: So if there's anything you want to put together that you wanna brainstorm while we're here, shoot a little skid, whether it's a comedy, whether it's a, um, a prank, whether it's anything on the whim that we could I, that I could take back along with what I'm getting gathering from the podcast.

[00:10:38] Eldar: Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:10:38] Joe: That would be even. Cherry on top. 

[00:10:41] Eldar: Yeah. 

[00:10:41] Joe: Um, so if there's anything you could think of while we sit here. 

[00:10:44] Eldar: Uh, absolutely. A lot of, a lot of the things that we do is kind of on the fly and naturally organic. Right. We don't, we don't prepare anything that's like prepared. Okay. You know, let's do this to do this.

[00:10:54] You know what I mean? No, it's very organic. It's very, yeah, it's very on the fly kind of goes, it's very real, 

[00:10:59] Harris: like I'm saying. Uh, he usually just walks around with video camera all day and come and 

[00:11:04] Joe: that's 

[00:11:04] Harris: how you do it up to me. Yeah. He's just videoing what I normally say and the shit I do. 

[00:11:10] Joe: Yeah, exactly.

[00:11:11] Harris: It's like a reality show. 

[00:11:12] Joe: Exactly. 

[00:11:13] Harris: Totally real. 

[00:11:14] Joe: Exactly. That's, so that's how reality show a film. 

[00:11:16] Harris: Yeah. 

[00:11:17] Joe: It's around the clock, 24 7, 3 crews. You got accrue from the morning time from when they wake up to around, uh, lunchtime, they break. Then you have a team that's from lunch to about nighttime for like their dinner break.

[00:11:30] And then you have a team that, that is around in case something goes on in the middle of the night. They need to have like a smaller crew that if something comes, comes about. So those reality shows that you see are around the clock panels, shifts of people recording, so they don't miss any content no matter what, whether it's the lights are off, but the cameras are still rolling.

[00:11:49] Um, anything. So that's, that's smart on his part because that's what got, you know, the attention of, uh, you know, and the buzz around, you know, around you. 

[00:11:59] Eldar: Oh yeah. And like I said, I have a lot more in my back pocket already. 

[00:12:02] Joe: That's, that's great. 

[00:12:03] Eldar: You know what I mean? So, yeah. So not, not that we want to shoot something right now, it's just, I definitely have something that's really good 

[00:12:08] Joe: mm-hmm.

[00:12:08] Eldar: That you will enjoy. And I can send that to you in private. 

[00:12:11] Joe: Okay. 

[00:12:12] Eldar: Yeah, that's okay. That's great. Alright. Uh, alright, so back to the topic, right? So the two topics that, uh, we wanted to talk about today. And, uh, number one, we could talk about gratitude, right? Uh, being grateful, right? Uh, what does it mean to be grateful?

[00:12:27] Why are some people grateful? And some why are some people are not grateful, right? And then we, maybe you can transition to another topic that the guys brought, uh, brought up was, which, which was the woke mind virus, right? Talk about what that is, why that is, and what's really going on with the world.

[00:12:42] Because apparently there's a lot of people that are, uh, infected or affected by this woke mind virus. And maybe there are some people in here, um, that were not just pegged by the, the dildo Ddo Fucking Tommy. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so we'll talk about that. So what do you guys wanna talk about first? 

[00:13:02] Tommy: Um, I'm nibbling on the woke mind a little bit.

[00:13:04] Okay. 

[00:13:04] Eldar: Yeah, 

[00:13:04] Harris: me too. You ready to get called that boy? 

[00:13:08] Eldar: So tell me about why'd you guys, uh, wanted to talk about this or what's going on? Totally. Talk to me. 

[00:13:13] Tommy: Well, I think Tom's infected. 

[00:13:16] Eldar: You think Tom was infected? 

[00:13:17] Tommy: Yeah. 

[00:13:18] Harris: Infected a long 

[00:13:18] Eldar: time. 

[00:13:19] Tommy: You think everyone's infected? Doesn't matter what it is. 

[00:13:22] Eldar: Another thing, 

[00:13:23] Tom, why do you think that is?

[00:13:24] Why do you think totally thinks that you're infected? 

[00:13:28] Tommy: He lives in a kind of bubble. He's afraid of the outside world. Mm-hmm. He's, he likes to live in, in a comfortable zone. 

[00:13:37] Eldar: What does that have to do with 

[00:13:37] Tommy: the world? Anything that, anything that contradicts, anything that he believes is reality is an instant threat.

[00:13:43] Eldar: Really. 

[00:13:44] Harris: Uh, Tommy, you 

[00:13:45] Tommy: are literally about, he's not curious about himself. He doesn't have the curious kind of 

[00:13:49] Eldar: Yeah. 

[00:13:49] Tommy: Self-nurturing. 

[00:13:51] Eldar: Okay. 

[00:13:51] Tommy: Cultural ability. If it's outside of what he, you know, we're, I think it's just because we're afraid of what we don't know. 

[00:13:57] Eldar: Is there any chance that he's saying this because he actually cares for you?

[00:14:01] Tommy: Possibly, yeah. Maybe. 

[00:14:04] Eldar: Hmm. 

[00:14:04] Tommy: And that's a good thing. 

[00:14:06] Eldar: Um, would you be okay with him expanding on what he, he thinks about you being affected by the woke? My virus. 

[00:14:13] Tommy: I don't think he should get into it. I think it'd be a waste of energy for him, and I'm telling him that 'cause I care for him. 

[00:14:18] Eldar: Wow. 

[00:14:19] Harris: Uh, can I just jump 

[00:14:21] Tommy: in?

[00:14:21] Here's, but I'm nibbling on it. Yes. Why? Because I've been reading women's literature recently. Oh 

[00:14:26] Harris: my God. 

[00:14:28] Tommy: I, it's feminist literature. Okay. And I, I feel the implications of it, but I don't do it because of any influence of the outside world. I do it because I was influenced to read some of the best books.

[00:14:40] And I've, I've come across this kind of, uh, way of thinking that I feel has direct consequences to being in a social sphere, like being in a, uh, a place where other women reside and, right. And like to have a sense of something that you can empathize with. Uh. Such a, you know, kind of bi binary system, you know, men, women.

[00:15:07] Okay. I'm just saying I feel like it's a good thing to have, you know, it's like people go through bias training now, you're aware mm-hmm. You're aware of some of the problems that are, that this population is faced with. Okay. And you can take a, a different approach when you hear someone say something offensive or when someone brings up a or some kind of stereotypical remark.

[00:15:28] And you can, in a way coordinate how people, you know, talk to each other. I think that's, it's very similar. 

[00:15:35] Eldar: I understood your whole point. I, 

[00:15:36] Tommy: I 

[00:15:36] Eldar: don't, I'm gonna ask one question Totally. And I don't want you to answer it. Okay? 

[00:15:39] Tommy: Okay. '

[00:15:39] Eldar: cause I want to give the floor to Harris. I'm gonna ask this question, but I want you to think about it.

[00:15:43] Tommy: Okay. 

[00:15:44] Eldar: Is this this whole thing, is this a ploy to be a better person? To be a quote unquote good person? Don't answer that. Go ahead. 

[00:15:51] Harris: Okay. You're dodging the whole effing question here, bro. 

[00:15:55] Tommy: Me dodging it would be like saying, Hey, look at Eldar and Anolis faces. 

[00:15:59] Harris: You dodging it and then you looked, you dodged it, and then I got you.

[00:16:02] Hey, you dodging it is because, all right. You're afraid to get called out again. I'm just gonna put it out. 

[00:16:07] Tommy: Okay. Look at elder and an's faces. Alright. 

[00:16:09] Eldar: Now, did you think 

[00:16:10] about my question? 

[00:16:11] No, I'm not sure about that, but I don't often give Tom compliments. Right. Okay. It's fair. 

[00:16:16] Tommy: Okay. 

[00:16:16] Eldar: But what he said, 

[00:16:17] Tommy: wait, wait.

[00:16:18] Uh, be careful. Don't gimme a 

[00:16:20] Eldar: compliment. Was the first time I heard someone say something in so many words. That meant absolutely nothing. So I commend them for, for doing that. 

[00:16:29] Tommy: See, now I would like to know how your mind works. Explain to me how you can come to these, uh, absurd conclusions that are always the same 

[00:16:38] Harris: because you're completely outta your goddamn.

[00:16:39] Tommy: Now, do you do that? Wait, do you do that in order to establish, uh, some kind of fraudulent problem? No dominance. Is this your viewer? It was 

[00:16:46] a 

[00:16:46] Tommy: dominate, correct? Correct. 

[00:16:47] Joe: Yeah. 

[00:16:48] Tommy: Yeah. But pushing, I, I would call that I, I could actually call this something. I would have a name for it, because he does this all the time.

[00:16:54] Joe: Mm-hmm. 

[00:16:54] Tommy: He said all this stuff, and then you lead the person into this, into your layer, into your pervert. Be careful pervert layer, right? Like, be careful. T this where, where he sits with, what do you call that? The one of those, uh, flaps over his swing. 

[00:17:09] Eldar: Yeah. 

[00:17:09] Tommy: You know, like he has a little, uh, 

[00:17:11] Eldar: Tom on the serious note, 

[00:17:12] Tommy: rd 

[00:17:12] Eldar: on the serious 

[00:17:13] Tommy: note, ger 

[00:17:13] Eldar: on the serious note.

[00:17:13] Tommy: Something like that. 

[00:17:14] Eldar: Is this a fucking ploy of you being a good person? 

[00:17:18] Tommy: A ploy? Yeah. Like, like as a, as a trick or a con or something like 

[00:17:20] Eldar: that? No, not a con or a trick, but like you raising awareness or learning about women's rights or, you know, what, two years ago you came to me with this shit about black people and you wanted me to invite my black friends so you could touch their hair.

[00:17:32] So you can kind of relate and understand what the hell is going on. 

[00:17:35] Tommy: I think you 

[00:17:35] Eldar: to 

[00:17:35] Tommy: goddamn 

[00:17:36] Eldar: my boy, 

[00:17:37] Tommy: bro, I think we're, what we're talking about really is for me to try to examine the truth, examine myself, and it's, I think it's more profound. So that, why did I ever come to that? Um, I think it came to that point because I've just, in a way, been following my own breadcrumbs.

[00:17:55] Let's, let's put it 

[00:17:56] it 

[00:17:56] Eldar: that way. The thing is, I wish there were yours, but the thing is, a lot of times you align with what actually the world is dictating. Whatever fa whatever fa whatever, whatever the fad is out there, which is right now the woke mind, right. Where everybody's like, oh, I won't 

[00:18:06] Tommy: argue against that.

[00:18:07] Eldar: All right, fine. So you are being affected by the masses, right? I, I wish it was a creative point 

[00:18:12] Tommy: where you I will agree to some ignorance. Yeah. Okay. 

[00:18:14] Eldar: Would you claim that's 

[00:18:15] Harris: creativity? 

[00:18:16] Eldar: Absolutely not. 

[00:18:18] Tommy: I, I wouldn't say ELD a's affected being affected by the masses, but to in fact be, you know, some way shaped, uh, it, it frightens me to be shaped in, uh, way by my environment.

[00:18:29] It 

[00:18:29] Eldar: frightens. So then why are you continually doing it? Constantly 

[00:18:33] Tommy: doing it? Well, I, the thing is, I, I maybe perhaps don't have. So last time we talked about being blocked. Right. And, uh, so Jonathan. Joe. Joe, 

[00:18:43] Eldar: sorry. No, Joe. Joe. 

[00:18:44] Tommy: Joe, you were not here, but we talked about being blocked. 

[00:18:47] Eldar: Alright. Can, can we ask Joe?

[00:18:50] Yeah. Joe's from the city, right? And, um, you probably experienced all the stuff that's all the different movements that's been going on in the last three, four years about raising awareness on this woke shit. How do you feel about that yourself 

[00:19:03] Joe: raising awareness? 

[00:19:04] Eldar: Like, you know, just the woke stuff, right?

[00:19:06] Like Yeah. The, the BBL M movement, right? What was the other movements? Uh, the women's rights movements, right? What else is now, 

[00:19:15] Harris: uh, 

[00:19:16] Eldar: Israel Palestine movement 

[00:19:18] Harris: That's gotten too far, dude. 

[00:19:19] Eldar: See? You think so, right? But like, well, 

[00:19:22] Joe: a lot of the movements, you know, 

[00:19:24] Eldar: all these things you 

[00:19:25] Joe: see, uh, 

[00:19:26] Eldar: oh, the presidents right, right now, Biden versus Trump movement, all these, that's 

[00:19:29] Harris: Kamala Harris versus Trump.

[00:19:30] Now. 

[00:19:31] Eldar: Okay, fine. Come on, Kamala. 

[00:19:35] Joe: Yeah, I mean the, um, this, these newer generations definitely, uh, have different platforms. There's different ways of communicating now, and there's sort of like a, there's sort of like a, a judgment, but a, a almost like a peer pressure, like a group think type of mentality that pushes a lot of people in a bubble or category that if you aren't lining up in this line.

[00:20:05] Along with everyone else, and you step aside because you feel, hey, you know, I have different opinions on this, but if you were to express that, you get outcasted, you kind of, you know, get pushed away, you kind of get categorized and you're not accepted. It's almost like, you know, back in the day before cell phones were a part of school.

[00:20:23] Eldar: Hmm. 

[00:20:24] Joe: When you're in school, before cell phones, there were clicks, there were the, the jocks, the nerds, you know, uh, all, all those different things. And, uh, 

[00:20:33] Eldar: the emo people 

[00:20:34] Joe: emo people. So, you know, you obviously wanted to be, be part of a certain group or, or, you know, stuff like that. So now, you know, it's very easy to determine well, what side you're on.

[00:20:48] And, uh, for the most part, people are gonna, you know, all flock to a certain side because they feel that this is the, this is the popular side. Even if it's not something they think is actually personally agree with 

[00:21:02] Eldar: or affect them during the day, day-today, life. 

[00:21:04] Joe: Yeah. 

[00:21:05] Eldar: Like, yes. Yeah. I feel like it's, it, it, um, that's 

[00:21:07] a very good point.

[00:21:08] Yeah. Like to me it's like there's like, uh, um, two things happening. One, people flock to it because it's like a, it's a community thing. 

[00:21:17] Yeah. Right? 

[00:21:18] Yeah. 

[00:21:18] Okay. 

[00:21:19] So 

[00:21:19] Eldar: now if, if you have this stance, you are of part of a community, something 

[00:21:22] Wow. 

[00:21:23] Or part of something that you weren't part, part of before. 

[00:21:25] Okay.

[00:21:25] Mm-hmm. 

[00:21:26] And I also think 

[00:21:27] you stand for something. 

[00:21:28] I see this is just speculation, but 

[00:21:30] mm-hmm. 

[00:21:31] Uh, think it's accurate. 

[00:21:32] Yeah. 

[00:21:33] If you're hardcore on whatever that thing is. 

[00:21:36] Yeah. 

[00:21:37] Anything you do or say else is accepted in that community. 

[00:21:41] Oh no. That's crazy. That's deeper than I, I, 

[00:21:43] yes. A second. That's also why 

[00:21:45] Harris: I'm gonna state here.

[00:21:46] Eldar: Hmm. 

[00:21:46] Harris: That this woke mind 

[00:21:47] Eldar: be as, 

[00:21:48] as possible. I would, I would love to explore that. Yeah. But go ahead, Harris. 

[00:21:51] Harris: Well, this walk mind virus, my, I have several family members who suffer from this shit, where they'll go on social media, they'll go on all this shit and start rambling on and posting all this stupid shit.

[00:22:03] Eldar: Is, is this why before you joined this, you wanted to become a woman? 

[00:22:06] Harris: Fuck you dude. And that never fucking happened. Fuck what? 

[00:22:10] Eldar: But you told, tell us. You asked us before working here. You said, can I wear a bra? Went to work. I 

[00:22:13] Harris: said, no, bro. We made a bet. And you tried to get me to wear a fucking sundress you saw of a bitch when I lost.

[00:22:19] All right. You let it go. I have to dye my fucking hair green, bro. 

[00:22:22] Eldar: Did he do it? He he lost the bet. He is 

[00:22:25] his hair green hair's green. 

[00:22:26] Joe: Okay. 

[00:22:26] Eldar: You don't see 

[00:22:27] Harris: it's 

[00:22:27] Eldar: there. 

[00:22:27] Harris: It's, he wants to do the fucking eyebrows too. But it said on the phone, always going for 

[00:22:33] Eldar: the eyebrows. He had us that he could, uh, not eat for three days.

[00:22:37] Three days straight. 

[00:22:37] Joe: That's tough. 

[00:22:37] Eldar: And he didn't make it past the first day lunch. 

[00:22:40] Joe: Oh. So half a day. Half 

[00:22:41] Tommy: half day. What did you eat on that day? 

[00:22:43] Eldar: Yeah. 

[00:22:44] Harris: Ended up eating the 15 inch salad. 

[00:22:47] Eldar: Jay, 

[00:22:48] Harris: fuck you. 

[00:22:49] Eldar: Why you guys, why You always gotta reflect it as inches. 

[00:22:53] Harris: Bro, that's what it's called. A 15 inch fucking sub, bro.

[00:22:55] Well, 

[00:22:55] Eldar: why you making your hands like that? Like you're holding a big dick now. Where is 

[00:22:58] Tommy: that? Is that at Quiz Nose, subway, or how'd 

[00:23:01] you 

[00:23:01] Eldar: take that sucker 

[00:23:02] Harris: down? Where the hell does Subway or Jersey? Mikes? Yeah. High Nose make a fucking 15 inch 

[00:23:07] Tommy: or Jersey. Mikes is called a giant. Oh, you went to Hogie to No, 

[00:23:10] Harris: it's Jersey Mikes bro.

[00:23:11] It's a giant, but it's called a 15 inch one. Well, actually I 

[00:23:13] Eldar: don't think that out. Curiosity. How many smaller options were there below the 15 

[00:23:17] Harris: inch one? There were two. 

[00:23:18] Eldar: And you chose to get the, the largest 

[00:23:19] Harris: one? Yeah, bro. I was fucking starving, dude. 

[00:23:23] Eldar: So there's a, there's a foot long, which is 12 

[00:23:25] Joe: inches. Yeah.

[00:23:25] And it is 

[00:23:26] Harris: 15 inches. They had a nine inch, a nine 15 inch jersey parking bike expansion. Did 

[00:23:31] Joe: you, did you? 

[00:23:34] Harris: Oh, yeah, 

[00:23:35] Joe: we could probably get you partnership with them. 

[00:23:37] Eldar: Oh, 

[00:23:38] Joe: subs for life. That's 

[00:23:39] Harris: nasty shit. 

[00:23:41] Joe: What do you mean? That fucking, so, you know, so, you know, way you want to 

[00:23:42] Eldar: open your mouth like that on camera, 

[00:23:45] Harris: bro.

[00:23:45] I already my mouth like that on camera. Fucking dime, bro. You wait. You actually, 

[00:23:49] Joe: this dislocate your job to 

[00:23:52] Eldar: eat 

[00:23:52] Harris: Don fuck yourself, man. 

[00:23:54] Joe: So, uh, you know, Jared from Subway, he was, you know, he was a celebrity. You were a child mo molester man. Well, 

[00:24:01] Harris: yeah, he was, 

[00:24:02] Joe: bro, his previous career before all that. Before all that, 

[00:24:05] Eldar: yeah.

[00:24:05] Joe: He lost a lot of weight. You know, he was, he was, he was taking care of by Subway. Uh, he made a, a huge killing on it. So if you have a, if you have an infatuation with the actual company itself, they love to hear that because, you know, not only do you, you enjoy going to them. You, you could collab with a, with a company like Jersey, Mike.

[00:24:25] Eldar: Yeah. I think the infatuation is more with the size, not necessarily Oh my 

[00:24:28] Harris: god. Repriming. Your home state things 

[00:24:31] Tommy: today are much spicier than 

[00:24:33] Eldar: representing, 

[00:24:34] Tommy: that's for sure. 

[00:24:34] Harris: Representing your home state. What's the reprimanding? Your home state, bro, representing your home state. Right. It's Jersey, right? That's true.

[00:24:40] It's all over Jersey. 

[00:24:41] Eldar: Yeah, but you're not from Jersey. Listen guys, 

[00:24:43] Harris: bro, I grew up here. 

[00:24:44] Eldar: You're a fucking corn Husker. 

[00:24:46] Harris: Fuck you bro. I've lived there for three years. Three years. And you judge it against me. Sure. I sound a little country now, but you moved to Nebraska, you moved to fucking North Carolina.

[00:24:55] You're gonna sound a little country too. 

[00:24:57] Eldar: Totally pun on your rock. Um, 

[00:24:59] Harris: don't make me sing that bro. You know, I can't hold myself back. 

[00:25:04] Eldar: Alright. You wanted a skit, right? You said? Yeah. 

[00:25:06] Joe: Listen, anything that goes, 

[00:25:07] Eldar: yeah, 

[00:25:07] Joe: anything goes. 

[00:25:08] Eldar: Alright. Well look, I, I think there's really good points is being made. Joe said that, you know, because everything is now social media based.

[00:25:14] It's like everybody, 

[00:25:16] Harris: oh, fucking God bro. Come on.

[00:25:24] Really? 

[00:25:25] Eldar: Can see what you got. 

[00:25:27] Harris: Was my first crush. Neither had a clue,

[00:25:37] okay? And was my first truck. I rusted. We had a beat up and she jumped in. Fell brand new. I can't, I can move myself back.

[00:25:53] Joe: That's, that's fashion you can't control yourself. That's what we're looking for. You need stuff that's gonna make pull you out of yourself and be your true self. That's it. So, so you like kid rock, love kid rock. Listen, 

[00:26:04] Eldar: at the end of the day, John's 

[00:26:05] Joe: favorite. Okay. 

[00:26:06] Eldar: Joe, you, Joe. Joe. Not John. Joe. Joe. Um. You didn't ask why the name was the name of the podcast?

[00:26:14] No. Of Harris's movement. Harris is in good hands. 

[00:26:17] Joe: Oh, okay. Harris, do you realize 

[00:26:19] Eldar: that he's in good hands? 

[00:26:20] Joe: I mean, this is his team. 

[00:26:21] Eldar: Yes. Yeah. 

[00:26:22] Harris: I've known Eldar probably since I was 13 years old. I known that's all these guys. No. 

[00:26:29] Joe: Yeah. What do you mean by that? 

[00:26:30] Harris: Before, don't say it like that El happening, right?

[00:26:33] Yeah. 

[00:26:34] Eldar: Put put your hands down. 

[00:26:36] Harris: Fuck you man. That just makes it weird. Go fuck you. So, uh, but before I knew Eldar, uh, Eldar here was a social worker. 

[00:26:43] Joe: Oh, okay. 

[00:26:43] Harris: And he ran this program called Youth Partnership. 

[00:26:46] Joe: Bo 

[00:26:47] Harris: what, 

[00:26:48] Joe: what 

[00:26:48] Harris: youth partnership? It's a federal program. 

[00:26:50] Joe: Mm-hmm. 

[00:26:51] Harris: Uh, basically gives, uh, teenagers, baby sitting, people, teenagers a safe place to hang out.

[00:26:56] Joe: Yeah. 

[00:26:56] Harris: Uh, get some food, uh, be around a safe place. And it gives us, uh, we had some good times and, uh, was that the 

[00:27:03] Eldar: first time you took down a 15 inch? 

[00:27:04] That is, 

[00:27:05] Harris: fuck you, bro. 

[00:27:06] Eldar: Listen, this is the weirdest thing you ever said. What do you mean we just had food? No, we volunteered. No, we good things in the community.

[00:27:11] Service 

[00:27:11] Harris: gave us a safe place to go. 

[00:27:13] Eldar: Yeah. Yeah. Safe. You have to explain it. You know, we did things around town. We helped all elderly people. We cleaned up parks, we cleaned 

[00:27:19] Harris: up and, but eldar basically, uh, 

[00:27:21] Eldar: yeah, 

[00:27:22] Harris: I guess you could say kept me outta fucking juvie, jail, all that shit. Mm-hmm. Uh, I've suffered from mental health my entire life.

[00:27:30] Uh, and if I probably wasn't on the right meds and didn't have good, uh, good hands, people around me, you would be a. 

[00:27:38] Eldar: Kamala Harris supporter? 

[00:27:40] Harris: No. I probably, no, he'd probably be a Kamala. I know. I'm probably be in prison right now. 

[00:27:45] Eldar: Okay. 

[00:27:45] Harris: Yeah. 

[00:27:46] Eldar: Good. He would be a Kamala. Would you dress up as Kamala Halloween?

[00:27:51] Harris: Fuck that bro. 

[00:27:54] Eldar: For the right, for the right amount. 

[00:27:55] Harris: Trump for life, man. 

[00:27:56] Eldar: Alright, fine. Hey, I'm cutting that out. 

[00:27:58] Joe: No, there's a lot of people out there that would, uh, you know, that would supportive for that. Yeah. 

[00:28:03] Harris: I'm just 

[00:28:03] Joe: saying, man, you can't cut, you can't cut off your so, so, so, so, so, you know, don't, don't cut off who you truly are.

[00:28:09] Uh, any, any beliefs you have, any support you have, let that bleed through. Don't let anyone control you. 

[00:28:15] Harris: That's what I used to do because when don't, last time I wasn't gonna vote for Trump. 

[00:28:20] Joe: Yeah. 

[00:28:20] Harris: I didn't vote at all. 

[00:28:21] Joe: Yeah. 

[00:28:22] Harris: Because I wasn't registered at the time again, 

[00:28:23] Joe: you're still not registered 

[00:28:24] Harris: by I am actually.

[00:28:25] But the reason Right. When Trump was in, no one fucked with America. 

[00:28:31] Eldar: Mm-hmm. 

[00:28:32] Harris: People stayed in their place. Mm-hmm. Shit. He's the first, uh, president to meet up with King Jon. Um, 

[00:28:38] Eldar: what the hell 

[00:28:38] Harris: is that? That crazy son off the way. Is that an 

[00:28:40] Eldar: Asian restaurant in New York? 

[00:28:42] Harris: Yeah. That's the fat guy from North Korea, bro.

[00:28:44] The craziest son of a bitch out there. 

[00:28:46] Eldar: Wait, and that makes him what? 

[00:28:48] Harris: That makes him have balls. Right? He kept people in line. No one messed with our country. And then immediately after he left, people were threatening, oh, you're doing this right. We're gonna come and get you. You better stay in your place.

[00:28:59] We need Trump back in office. 'cause guess what? He will get this country back to where it needs to be. 

[00:29:05] Eldar: Gun to your head 

[00:29:05] Harris: right now, we're on the brink of World War III with three different fucking countries. 

[00:29:10] Eldar: Gun to your head. 

[00:29:11] Harris: What about it? 

[00:29:12] Eldar: Trump is running versus kid rock. Who? Who you voting for? 

[00:29:15] Harris: Damn. 

[00:29:16] Eldar: Uhhuh.

[00:29:17] Harris: They're both Patriots, man. 

[00:29:20] Eldar: Well, you know who they're voted for? 

[00:29:22] Harris: Who? 

[00:29:23] Eldar: Come on long hair. Don't care. 

[00:29:27] Harris: Damn, brother. Him that, bro. Don't throw me in that, right? 

[00:29:31] Eldar: Fine, 

[00:29:31] fine, fine. Listen, Harris for president, um, 

[00:29:36] Harris: that's another one of my nickname. President? Yes. Oh, pte. 

[00:29:39] Eldar: Alright. So, yeah, so I think we, we have a pretty good point here and, uh, I, I definitely wanna explore what Toley said, which is pretty crazy, uh, regarding social media influence.

[00:29:48] And then when you part of a pact, you almost can be anything and do anything without having to be called out. That is crazy. That is absolutely crazy because, um, he's almost saying that people get passes. 

[00:30:03] Harris: What do you mean by that? 

[00:30:04] Eldar: To totally expand on that. 

[00:30:05] Yeah. I feel like if you're in one of those things, like if you're showing support towards it and like you're, you're really about it.

[00:30:13] Yeah. You could do or say anything else and it's almost like normalize. 

[00:30:18] Harris: I wanna say something because do 

[00:30:19] Eldar: you understand what 

[00:30:20] Harris: he just said? I understand what he said. Okay. Can 

[00:30:21] Eldar: you explain to me what he said? 

[00:30:22] Harris: Hold up. 'cause I have something on my mind real quick. 

[00:30:24] Eldar: Okay. 

[00:30:25] Harris: All right. We talked about all these different groups, right?

[00:30:28] You have the groups about what's going on in Israel and fucking Palestine? The one thing I don't like about it that people are doing. 

[00:30:35] Eldar: Yeah, 

[00:30:36] Harris: okay. Me being Jewish myself. 

[00:30:38] Eldar: Mm-hmm. 

[00:30:38] Harris: They're judging every fucking Jew for what's going on over there. 

[00:30:43] Eldar: Um, can you do me a favor without saying anything right now?

[00:30:46] Okay. Without any reactions. Can you turn around, roll up your sleeve and show Joe one your arm Without saying anything? 

[00:30:53] Without 

[00:30:53] Harris: saying anything. Fuck you. 

[00:30:54] Eldar: Without saying anything. 

[00:30:55] Without saying anything. Fuck 

[00:30:56] Harris: you. It was 

[00:30:57] Eldar: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I was fucking, I'm mut, I'm mut him. Hold on one second.

[00:31:02] Just 

[00:31:02] show him 

[00:31:04] I'm muting you. Fuck. You just show, just show. You just said, you just said that You being Jewish yourself. Can you do me a favor and show Joe? I have two different No, no, we're not asking for explanation. 

[00:31:18] Joe: Okay. Got the cross though. 

[00:31:20] Tommy: I love the Foley though. I love the, the sound that came through the, the lean in and the keys and the, and the couch.

[00:31:26] Harris: 15. 15. 

[00:31:27] Eldar: Fantastic. That's, that's a, that's a Christian Cross. 

[00:31:30] Harris: I'm gonna, I'm gonna make a statement here. 

[00:31:31] Eldar: Okay. 

[00:31:32] Harris: My biological father, 

[00:31:35] Eldar: uh, we don't want explanation though, 

[00:31:36] Harris: was Christian. My mom is Jewish. Okay. Technically I'm Jewish. 

[00:31:40] Eldar: Okay. That's true. What was your other father? 

[00:31:43] Harris: My, my dad that raised me. My real, who?

[00:31:45] I consider my real dad. 

[00:31:47] Eldar: Yeah. 

[00:31:48] Harris: He's Jewish. 

[00:31:50] Eldar: Why 

[00:31:50] Harris: is he okay? I was pressured into this. 

[00:31:53] Eldar: Why 

[00:31:53] Harris: North Carolina 

[00:31:54] Eldar: friends? 

[00:31:55] Harris: No, by. I say my fa my father's family. We moved there because just for the 

[00:32:02] Eldar: record, what state did you get that tattoo in 

[00:32:04] Harris: North Carolina. I was pressured into it by my father's family. Um, I'm not gonna name names, I'm just gonna put it out there.

[00:32:13] Okay. But I was pressured into it and I got a fucking cross on there. 

[00:32:18] Eldar: I was 

[00:32:18] Harris: singing, I was pressure. Wait, but 

[00:32:19] Eldar: before you, before you explain yourself why you're wearing painter's pants today. 

[00:32:23] Harris: They're not painters, dude. They're fucking jeans. What's your fucking deal, man? 

[00:32:26] Eldar: I'm just saying. Did you have a job early in the morning?

[00:32:30] Harris: Yeah. Had a job. I was fucking your mom. 

[00:32:32] Eldar: Oh no. But you giving her that sweet dick. 

[00:32:34] Harris: Oh, I was, bro. She fucking loved it. Keep the families together, bro. 

[00:32:38] Eldar: Yeah. Good. Uh, so 

[00:32:41] Harris: what I was finishing, right, 

[00:32:44] Eldar: so finish something that you were saying. 

[00:32:45] Harris: I was pressured into it, right? Yeah. Over there. Uh, my mom thought it would be a good idea.

[00:32:50] It was cheaper to live down there. We were struggling to pay the rent up here and 

[00:32:52] Eldar: for the wait. So your mom thought it was a good idea. And just for the record, what religion is your mom? 

[00:32:57] Harris: She's Jewish. She thought it was a good idea to go down to North Carolina. What does it matter what religion is? I'm just asking.

[00:33:01] I'm just asking there, bro. We were around the Charlotte area. Charlotte. Charlotte area, right? It's very neutral, right? You have every ethnicity, you have every religion. It's not a big deal. Sure. 

[00:33:13] Eldar: I just wanted Joe to be aware of what was going on, you know, because, you know, uh, so we're fluid Joe. Yeah, we're fluid.

[00:33:20] So today he is, uh, Jewish. Tomorrow. He's Christian. 

[00:33:23] Harris: Oh, would you 

[00:33:23] Eldar: stop? Today's a man tomorrow. 

[00:33:24] He's a woman. What 

[00:33:26] Harris: I've noticed, when I was down there the first day of school in North Carolina, uh, I sat down next to this guy in his three class, and he's rambling on about, oh, Hitler this, Hitler that he should come back and, you know, I wanted to fucking really, 

[00:33:42] Eldar: what the 

[00:33:42] Harris: hell hopped that motherfucker in the face.

[00:33:44] Eldar: Mm-hmm. 

[00:33:45] Harris: Uh, I wanted to punch him so bad, 

[00:33:46] Eldar: but instead you sat on his lap. 

[00:33:48] Harris: Fuck you, bro. No, uh, you know, I kind of fucking ignored it because I felt, I guess you could say unsafe in that area, right? Uh, especially where I was. I didn't know who, uh, was a threat, I guess you could say, if they knew I was Jewish.

[00:34:06] So that's another reason I got across on my own. 

[00:34:08] Eldar: Right. So you punked out. Got it. Moving on. Um, is this whats happening to, there's a lot of hate 

[00:34:14] Harris: into this fucking 

[00:34:14] Eldar: world. What is this, what's happening to Tom? Pretty much? 

[00:34:17] Harris: Oh, 

[00:34:18] Eldar: fuck 

[00:34:18] Harris: you bro. Don't compare me 

[00:34:19] Eldar: to fucking Tom, bro. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. What, what I'm saying is that totally made a crazy accusation about the people that are a part of these little movements, fads and stuff like that.

[00:34:28] Right. Like I said, any movement that has kind of two division lines, right? Black, white women, men, cops, no cops, Trump Biden. What other things that out there, uh, Israel, Palestine, all these little things. Right. As long as you're part of the movement, you're kind of like, oh, whoever's shouting the loudest, you almost become like this person who's l Yeah.

[00:34:50] That stuff. Right. You almost become like, this person's like, yeah, I'm also good. I'm also good. I'm, I'm for the movement. Right? Yeah. I, I understand. I empathize with them, I sympathize with them, whatever it is. Mm-hmm. Virtual 

[00:35:00] Joe: signaling. Mm-hmm. 

[00:35:01] Eldar: Huh. 

[00:35:01] Joe: It's called virtual signaling. 

[00:35:03] Eldar: This is, this is is a word 

[00:35:04] Joe: Virtual sig signaling.

[00:35:06] Eldar: Virtual signaling. Virtual 

[00:35:07] Tommy: signaling. 

[00:35:07] Joe: We're trying to signal that you're virtuous that Oh, 

[00:35:09] Eldar: oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Virtuous. Yeah. Yeah. Signal. Yeah. That you're good, almost. Right? 

[00:35:12] Tommy: Oh, right, 

[00:35:13] Eldar: right. Um, and that almost, um, creates this little illusion that you're now immune to some of the things. 

[00:35:23] Yeah. Like you can be as weird, as weird as you want, 

[00:35:26] as long as you're supporting the cause, as long as you support, because the cause is bigger than you.

[00:35:29] Yes. And everybody within that cause is accepting of everything else. As long as you're about that cause. Oh my God. 

[00:35:35] Harris: Oh, I'm confused. God, didn't we, like when I was growing up, yeah. I felt like the world. Right. Uh, finally everyone was being accepted. Right. When I was growing up, you didn't hear about. These people getting killed or mm-hmm.

[00:35:50] All this shit going on. 

[00:35:51] Eldar: Yeah. 

[00:35:51] Harris: When I was in school, right. Everyone was together. There was no problems. But I guess we did live in a pretty good fucking neighborhood. 

[00:35:57] Eldar: Yeah. But you knew Nicole. 

[00:36:00] Harris: I didn't know Nicole back then, bro. 

[00:36:01] Eldar: She ran shit. 

[00:36:02] Harris: You know, she ran in Nebraska. I grew up in Fairmont until senior year, bro.

[00:36:07] Okay. But the whole point, right? I guess I was sheltered a bit. But even on the news, bro, you didn't hear about all these fucking protests and this fucking shit. 

[00:36:16] Eldar: No. It's because maybe we didn't pay attention as much 'cause we were younger or whatever. We didn't care about it. And social media also had a very highlighting effect to all these little things.

[00:36:24] Right. But do you agree with what, what is being said here with the, the, uh, totally serious That the fact that just because you're part of the cause now you can almost hide in the shadows of your own stupidity and all the little things that you do. 

[00:36:36] Harris: I think people just want to be a part of something.

[00:36:39] Yeah, they 

[00:36:39] Eldar: want to fight 

[00:36:40] Harris: something. 

[00:36:40] Eldar: But why? He said he's explaining why, because then all your sins wash away. Is this what's happening with Tom? A friend Tom? What the fuck? Fuck, 

[00:36:51] Tommy: what's happening? 

[00:36:52] Eldar: Is this what's happening with you? Oh God, you fucking 

[00:36:53] Harris: lost 

[00:36:53] Tommy: bro. Penning penny. 

[00:36:54] Eldar: You wanna be part of a movement 

[00:36:56] Tommy: No.

[00:36:56] Eldar: That makes you quote unquote good. 

[00:36:57] Tommy: Correct. 

[00:36:58] Eldar: So 

[00:36:59] Tommy: yes, 

[00:36:59] Eldar: you can be then be accepted for all the weird shit that you actually do and nobody's gonna call you out on, 

[00:37:02] Tommy: oh, I'm sorry. That is why it's 

[00:37:04] Eldar: so d 

[00:37:04] Tommy: to come 

[00:37:05] Eldar: here. 

[00:37:07] Harris: What's so funny? What's wrong with this 

[00:37:09] Tommy: fucking man? Yes and no elder. I don't know about the this woke movement.

[00:37:12] I don't wanna be a part of that. 

[00:37:14] Harris: You're already a part of it, bro. You 

[00:37:15] Tommy: No, well, you just said that you are influenced by the masks. No, no. I'm influenced by, by by teachers. People who, um, people who introduce you to the woke mind virus. Very, very fine literature. And in a way, I, I think I've been on this journey where I discovered these amazing, you know, um, things unknown to me before.

[00:37:35] And, uh, and I followed through, which is a, a sort of a, a self-improvement to the person who I was before, who I was kind of, you know, not, not literally, uh, not literary, I don't think that's the word. Um, but, you know, I was not interested in, in intellectual life at, at an earlier time in my life. And for me, this is, he's explain this, all of my virus, this to bridge this gap to, to, is to basically look at my psyche, you know, like this, to kind of, uh, to, to sort of look at the before and the after picture of myself is sort of the, the, the big problem.

[00:38:11] Eldar: I have another question. 

[00:38:12] Tommy: Yeah. 

[00:38:12] Eldar: That just came about. Okay.

[00:38:17] Harris: I just wanna state, hold on, Tom, you're outta your goddamn fucking mind bro. 

[00:38:21] Eldar: Harris, listen 

[00:38:22] Harris: man, virus, you 

[00:38:22] Eldar: might learn something. Harris, lemme ask this question. Uh, do you guys think that the reason why this is happening in the first place also is, is in the way of trying to explain your own condition or your own suffering as well?

[00:38:39] Harris: Oh damn. 

[00:38:39] Eldar: Explain it. Like explain it or to realize like, what's actually happening to you because maybe you're not happy about something. Maybe something's not actualizing for you that you wanna actualize, so therefore you kind of align yourself amongst these things. So you're trying to, to almost say that I'm not good enough and somebody else has to teach me about these things so I can line up with Good.

[00:38:56] It's, you wanna get 

[00:38:57] into a community. 

[00:38:58] Yes. I think it's 

[00:38:59] like people 

[00:38:59] Tommy: worshiping 

[00:38:59] Eldar: that will 

[00:39:00] buy your bs. 

[00:39:01] Joe: Well, it's like, may interject 

[00:39:03] Eldar: Joe. 

[00:39:03] Joe: I mean, Joe, you have, have you ever investigated or researched on, on uh, cults? Oh, shit. 

[00:39:10] Tommy: No. It's just not my area of interest, but I guess what I'm trying to say, what I tried to say earlier was my, the exposure to, uh, the voices, um, the people who were really influential has the, uh, has the positive effect of, uh, ga gaining knowledge as an individual and having that, uh, sort of be part of your new.

[00:39:33] New, new reality, I guess. So what else is it When you read, when you read a great book, right? And you're influenced by this book and, uh, sort of maybe the, some of the ideas they stick with you. Um, I mean, I've always found that to be a, of a beneficial thing. 

[00:39:48] Joe: What I find interesting and, and, and what brings people towards cults is because, uh, you see the average person mm-hmm.

[00:39:56] You could see the most vulnerable person. You could see the, even the most smart, successful people, uh, can fall into a, um, an understanding or a belief that they're being, their upgrading, their, their mental, um, awareness. Right. Their intelligence. I 

[00:40:14] Eldar: think 

[00:40:14] Joe: their community, they're, they're, they're all in agreeance with each other.

[00:40:18] You could, you could literally be taken over by, uh, someone who could in a way, swindle and manipulate your way of thinking into Right. Very, very easily. 

[00:40:29] Tommy: Right. Right. 

[00:40:30] Joe: To, to where all I, all I, all I gathered from it was, if you could stop a person like yourself and say, if you were in a cult and we knew you were in a cult, but you didn't un, you didn't realize you were in one.

[00:40:45] If we could get you to admit, I may be in a cult. I understand what you're saying. I'm looking at, I'll look at it from the outside in. I'll consider I'm being manipulated. If you could take that position and then. Reanalyze, reevaluate the steps. You, you know, the steps you're taking the, the route and the life you're, you're living and say, you know, it all felt good.

[00:41:11] I felt every, like, everything was right. But if people are making comments, this is your, this is the prime opportunity to step back, listen to what other people are noticing and saying, and then re-question, look in the mirror, re-question your thoughts and your, your, your, your mind, your ways, the steps you're, you know, the journey you're taking.

[00:41:32] Because you could be stuck in a, like a another parallel universe along with everyone else that's living, but you're stuck in a, almost like in a small cult right. Way of thinking. And, uh, you can't unthink or get out of it because Wow, it's taking over, it's be getting stronger and you're not, 

[00:41:49] Eldar: you just potentially explain the next 20 years 

[00:41:51] of my life.

[00:41:51] Yeah. To have holy two comments on, on, on that one. I think people that before they get into it, 

[00:41:59] yeah, 

[00:41:59] right. They, um, I think one of the big reasons to that they get into it is because, um, they see an illusion of what other people have that they currently don't, and they think they, they have that. So if they're searching, for example, for like friendship or happiness Yes.

[00:42:15] Or like blissfulness. 

[00:42:16] That's what I said. Yeah. 

[00:42:17] The, the lacking. So the cult or like that, that group gives the illusion 

[00:42:21] that 

[00:42:21] they have it, that this is what they have it. Yeah, they have, and this is what they experience. And you as the outsider. You want that? And then when you're, the, the, um, second comment is that, um, I think when you're in it, what actually happens is that, um, I think it's no coincidence.

[00:42:41] Everything that happens happens in a group setting. And what happens is that there's things that are being done and said, and everybody just, if you're new, you act like the people that have been in it for a while, and it's a chain reaction where you just act how others are acting. You just line up with 

[00:42:57] it.

[00:42:57] So for example, like you 

[00:42:58] have to model it 

[00:42:59] like, uh, uh, what's called, let's just say that like Trump says something, right? The people that have been in it for the longest, they're the first ones to say, yeah, yeah. And the people on the chain reaction, 

[00:43:10] yeah. 

[00:43:10] They just look at how others are acting and do the same thing.

[00:43:13] They have to until they're trained enough to do that themselves. 

[00:43:15] Joe: There's a very viral, viral clip, holy, that I could share that explains that exact, uh, scenario. Scenario. So the, you could look it up if you want, but there's a, there's a festival where this one guy who's very silly looking, he dances silly, he's just enjoying the music.

[00:43:33] They're on a big grassy field. And from afar, everyone's sitting, no one's up dancing. No one's enjoying themselves except this one guy. And it takes one individual to run up and wanting to join. The, the participation, the fun. Uh, and then they, they start feeding off of each other, the two of them. And then the rest of the crowd, the, the, the rest of the crowds just start to spread that message saying, go join.

[00:44:00] Go join. And then before you know it, the one guy that people were filming and laughing at, 

[00:44:04] Eldar: everybody's 

[00:44:04] Joe: doing it and not wanting to join. 'cause he was like the weirdo or the outcast. Now, if you're not joining this bubble, 

[00:44:10] Eldar: you're the weirdo. 

[00:44:10] Joe: You're the weirdo. So now, now everyone thinks it's okay. 

[00:44:13] Eldar: Yeah. 

[00:44:13] Joe: To go up there, have fun.

[00:44:14] And you see, you see that huge crowd just, you know, 

[00:44:19] Eldar: explode, 

[00:44:19] Joe: develop like that. 

[00:44:20] Eldar: Yeah. 

[00:44:21] Joe: In a matter of a minute. It's 

[00:44:22] Eldar: the dancing. Do you realize you're part of that crowd? You idiot. 

[00:44:24] Harris: I'm not part of that fucking crowd. 

[00:44:26] Eldar: Okay. 

[00:44:26] Harris: So I've never fucking changed, man. I remained the fucking same. 

[00:44:30] Eldar: Yeah, but you're the one who's chanting Trump.

[00:44:33] Harris: Dude, I'm picking a fucking candidate to vote for 

[00:44:37] Eldar: it. Sink in a little bit. 

[00:44:38] Harris: Dude, I'm ki I'm picking a fucking candidate to vote for. Okay. What the fuck are you saying? The most competent. What the fuck 

[00:44:44] Eldar: are you saying? 

[00:44:45] Harris: Candidate matter in my fucking mind, man. What's 

[00:44:47] Eldar: the matter with you, man? 

[00:44:48] Yeah. But you haven't looked up anything about the other candidate or.

[00:44:52] Done your 

[00:44:53] fucking 

[00:44:53] Harris: research. You did your research. Has she done as vice president, bro? What does she fucking know? Do 

[00:44:57] Eldar: you know that there's other candidates available besides Kamala and fucking 

[00:45:00] Harris: Trump? I got news for you. Those candidates will are not gonna win. 

[00:45:03] Eldar: Not 

[00:45:03] with Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[00:45:05] Harris: I'm not voting for RF fucking 

[00:45:07] Eldar: K. Are 

[00:45:07] Harris: you, 

[00:45:08] Eldar: are you fucking a front runner? Oh my God. 

[00:45:11] Harris: I'm not voting for r Are you a foreign voter? Let, let me ask you a fucking question. 

[00:45:14] Eldar: No, no, no, no, 

[00:45:15] Harris: no, no. 

[00:45:15] Eldar: Wait, wait. Why? No, no, no, no. I'm gonna ask you one question here. Mm-hmm. Okay. Do you vote just to vote 

[00:45:21] Harris: no 

[00:45:22] Eldar: for somebody to win?

[00:45:22] Or do you vote based on what you actually, 

[00:45:24] Harris: I'm voting for Trump, right? We're gonna make America great again. 

[00:45:27] Eldar: Here we go. 

[00:45:27] Joe: So, RFK could be, could be this guy on the hill that I was explaining that went, that went viral and that that got the crowd coming to him because all it took was someone to stray away outside of their bubble.

[00:45:39] It's, it's no longer a Democrat, Republican, and Trump and Harris. There is someone that could potentially win. He is, he has the most traction that any independent has ever had in any. 

[00:45:51] Tommy: That's 

[00:45:51] Joe: amazing, 

[00:45:52] Harris: sir. I, I just don't like him. Have you done any research on him? I don't like it because I believe I, I've watched videos of him and I believe he's just living off his dad, his brother.

[00:46:01] That's what they want you to 

[00:46:02] Joe: hear. 

[00:46:03] Tommy: That's not very different from Trump, is it? 

[00:46:04] Joe: That's what, that's what the media's feeding you. 

[00:46:06] Harris: Oh. Was his dad a fucking politician? His dad 

[00:46:08] Tommy: gave him a million dollars and he just spun that million dollars and made a billion dollars. Wouldn't that be a great story for anybody?

[00:46:15] Harris: Well, can you repeat that? He made a fucking billion dollars. Is that what you just said? 

[00:46:19] Tommy: I'm saying his dad gave him a million dollar loan 

[00:46:22] Harris: and he made it into a billing. 

[00:46:24] Eldar: What do you mean a loan? Yeah, he paid it back. 

[00:46:26] Tommy: His his, 

[00:46:26] Eldar: he paid it back. 

[00:46:27] Harris: Wow. No, 

[00:46:28] Eldar: I actually 

[00:46:28] Harris: have no fucking clue. Hey to no fucking call loan.

[00:46:30] Hey, hey Tom. Hey Tom. Is that million 

[00:46:32] Eldar: dollar back? That's dollars. Back when he gave it to him in like 1980s or whatever, you know how much it was worth? A lot. 10 million today? A 

[00:46:38] Tommy: lot. A lot. 

[00:46:39] Harris: Tom, let me ask you a question, 

[00:46:40] Eldar: Harris, 

[00:46:41] Harris: is that not a big accomplishment to you, Harris? He called 

[00:46:42] Eldar: it a 

[00:46:43] Tommy: small loan too. 

[00:46:44] Eldar: No.

[00:46:44] Is that not a big, that's not an accomplishment. What do you mean turn a million dollars into a fucking you? He's trying to, he's 

[00:46:50] Joe: not self 

[00:46:50] Eldar: made. 

[00:46:50] Listen to me. If my dad is a fucking huge fucking, uh, brand already in the city 

[00:46:57] with every connection, 

[00:46:58] with every connection available to me, I'm his son. My cosign name is, is Trump.

[00:47:04] I'm Trump, bro. Everybody's fucking with me because I'm already Trump. 

[00:47:08] Harris: All right, I'm just 

[00:47:08] Eldar: gonna, and I got $10 million in my fucking pocket. 

[00:47:10] Harris: I'm gonna claim 

[00:47:10] Eldar: what do you think is gonna happen? 

[00:47:12] Harris: Harris 

[00:47:13] Eldar: James got drafted to how 

[00:47:14] Harris: old? Shit. Let's not bring up that. 

[00:47:17] Eldar: Why did LeBron James Sun get drafted? 

[00:47:19] Harris: Let me, let me claim something here.

[00:47:20] Eldar: Can you stop jerk off the fucking mic? 

[00:47:22] Harris: Fuck you. 

[00:47:23] Eldar: Oh my God, Joe, 

[00:47:24] Harris: let me, let me claim something here. Listen, I'm complicit here. When I was, when I was young, I also wanted to study realistic. Be shut, bro. Talented speaking. You got your goddamn mind. Know your plays bro. You are a guest. 

[00:47:36] Tommy: I was hoping for the fuck you, buddy.

[00:47:38] Harris: You'll get that later. I promise you that. You keep it up. 

[00:47:41] Eldar: Yo, can I just 

[00:47:42] Tommy: say 

[00:47:42] Eldar: a word? You 30 seconds, 

[00:47:46] Harris: Tom, we're gonna tape you up and we're gonna throw you in the fucking closet. 

[00:47:49] Tommy: Actually, I'm gonna start with the bathroom. You guys, you guys wanna throw me in the bathroom first? 

[00:47:52] Harris: Damn. Tom, you didn't want like eldar.

[00:47:55] Just blow that bitch up and we'll, we'll do it. We'll throw him right in there. We'll 

[00:47:58] Eldar: do it right in the wrap. 

[00:47:59] Harris: Forgiving. 

[00:48:01] Tommy: Listen, listen. I was confessing something. Okay, just go. Just quick confession to this. 

[00:48:05] Harris: You're gonna hold that confession in for a little bit, okay? 

[00:48:07] Tommy: Yes. Alright, no problem. I that. 

[00:48:09] Harris: Okay. So like I was saying, stop drinking the mic.

[00:48:12] Fuck you, bro. But, uh, listen. All right. The reason I like Trump, right, is because he doesn't give a fuck. He doesn't back down to anyone, all right? Right. We don't need to make deals with these other presidents and shit, all right? The reason they don't fuck with him, they didn't fuck with him was because they were afraid to, okay?

[00:48:35] Now they think of America as a fucking joke right now. All right? We're on the brink of fucking World War III with three different fucking countries. Trump gets back in office. I watched a video where Putin was asked, you know, uh, uh, what do you think about Trump talking about he's gonna end the war in Ukraine?

[00:48:51] He watched what he fucking said about fucking Trump, because guess what? He's a fucking afraid of Trump. 'cause if Trump gets back in office, Trump will not hesitate to fucking go after these people, or they fuck with us. Is that 

[00:49:02] Eldar: because he has an orange hair? 

[00:49:05] Harris: Fuck you, bro, Harris. I'm just saying, you 

[00:49:07] Eldar: know how usually totally gives a speech to, uh, Tom about saying absolutely nothing, 

[00:49:11] Harris: bro.

[00:49:11] I just proved why I'm for Trump. It's because Trump is strong. Trump's got fucking false. Harris. If 

[00:49:16] Eldar: you're found guilty 

[00:49:17] Tommy: of this, I can help you with that. 

[00:49:18] Eldar: I'll, he doesn't right now. You're in the same campus as Tommy 

[00:49:20] Harris: said. 

[00:49:20] Absolutely 

[00:49:21] Eldar: nothing. Oh 

[00:49:21] Harris: my God, bro. Don't make me pull up that bag. Daddy fucking video.

[00:49:25] I fucking love that shit. When they compared Obama announcing Osama's death. Yes. When Trump announced bag Daddy 

[00:49:31] Eldar: reenacted right now 

[00:49:33] Harris: he's dead as a fucking dog. He's dead as a dog. Ain't go through the door. That blew the door up. I fucking love that shit. 

[00:49:40] Eldar: Yeah. 

[00:49:41] Harris: I wish I could take credit, but I couldn't. But he's dead.

[00:49:44] He's dead as a dog. He was a dirt back. He died like a dirt back. Loved. But Harris question, loved 

[00:49:48] Tommy: question. Where, where were you on nine 11? Do you remember? 

[00:49:51] Eldar: He was in his daddy's dick. 

[00:49:52] Harris: No, I wasn't, bro. I was. You 

[00:49:53] Eldar: were born already? 

[00:49:54] Harris: Yeah, bro. Oh, 

[00:49:55] Eldar: I 

[00:49:55] Harris: was born in 1998, bro. 

[00:49:57] Tommy: Okay, so you were three. 

[00:49:58] Harris: Yeah. 

[00:49:59] Tommy: Yeah. 

[00:50:00] Harris: You were.

[00:50:01] What? I'm gonna, I'm gonna say you were 

[00:50:01] Tommy: sucking on a sugar tit. 

[00:50:02] Harris: Fuck you, bro. I'm gonna say this. 

[00:50:04] Tommy: Harris, growing up, Harris Harris shut. I was in my seventh, seventh grade science class. 

[00:50:08] Harris: You shut up for a 

[00:50:08] Tommy: minute, and when Obama came out and he said, we killed Osama Bin Laden, that was a highlight of my life.

[00:50:13] Harris: You don't get it. I might have been a baby, but not 11 chance. Fuck that shit was 

[00:50:17] Tommy: powerful. 

[00:50:18] Harris: Nine 11 changed our fucking lives as well. I'm gonna state this. Okay. I lived in fair, long New Jersey. Okay? We were 23 miles from New York City, okay? 

[00:50:28] Tommy: Mm-hmm. 

[00:50:29] Harris: We grew up in seventh grade. We watched all the fucking videos of what happened over there because we're so close.

[00:50:35] We learned about it. We took a field trip to the nine 11 Museum. Mm-hmm. They were building the Freedom Tower and all that shit. 

[00:50:42] Tommy: Mm-hmm. 

[00:50:42] Harris: Building the thing. We learned about that. 

[00:50:44] Tommy: Mm-hmm. 

[00:50:45] Harris: I have several, several, but they 

[00:50:45] Tommy: didn't tell you about that Pakistani guy, 

[00:50:49] Harris: bro. Would you Shut up. 

[00:50:50] Tommy: Sorry. 

[00:50:52] Harris: I have several, several friends that enlisted because of that fucking trip because of that shit.

[00:50:57] Yeah. Makes sense. They fought, makes sense. Trying to get this son of a bitch, trying to get all these son of a bitches to make sure this never fucking happens again. 

[00:51:03] Eldar: Wait, so then how did you end up milking bulls? After 

[00:51:06] Harris: my, oh, fuck you, bro. I tried to enlist. Alright. I was denied because of my mental health, bro.

[00:51:10] I wanted to fucking fight. I wanted to go after. I wanted to make sure nothing like this fucking happened to our country again. Unfortunately, I was denied. 

[00:51:18] Eldar: Unfortunately. 

[00:51:19] Harris: Unfortunately. 

[00:51:20] Eldar: What do you mean? Fortunately? 

[00:51:21] Harris: I said, unfortunately, are you 

[00:51:22] Eldar: stupid? You have a fucking greater cause here. What's the matter with you?

[00:51:27] Harris: Ever since I was a fucking 

[00:51:28] Eldar: kid, you would've fucking been just dead. 

[00:51:31] Harris: Why, why? You gotta on, you would've 

[00:51:32] Eldar: been the first person you would've died. A hundred percent. 

[00:51:34] Harris: I have several. You don have a chance that have done four combat deployments and they're still fucking alone. 

[00:51:38] Eldar: Now you have two left feet. 

[00:51:40] Joe: You can't go viral if you're dead.

[00:51:41] Harris. Harris, you're not alone 

[00:51:43] Harris: when I 

[00:51:43] Eldar: was a kid, kid. Now you have the ability to influence a lot of people in a good way. I get that. 

[00:51:46] Joe: What do you mean? Just you just, you have the potential t-shirt once you're dead and then you're forgotten. 

[00:51:51] Eldar: Yeah. 

[00:51:51] Joe: We need you alive. 

[00:51:52] Eldar: Yeah. 

[00:51:53] Joe: Viral Nation, thank you. Is looking to represent you.

[00:51:56] I 

[00:51:56] Tommy: I wish we could pull up the, uh, Tom. I'm here, bro. Tom does, uh, fuck Tom serves life episode right now. Yeah. So we can just listen to a quick clip of it. Tom 

[00:52:03] Harris: serves life. Damn, John. Damn Tom, you going to fucking prison for life? I, 

[00:52:06] Tommy: I had a a I had a 30 minute chat, 

[00:52:08] Harris: guys. All that. Some money to your commissary 

[00:52:10] Eldar: guys.

[00:52:11] Something tells me that Harris and Tom actually cut from the same cloth. 

[00:52:14] Harris: Yo, fuck you bro. Don't compare me to this guy. 

[00:52:17] Eldar: Oh, you heard that? I whispered that to Totally. 

[00:52:19] Tommy: But I came here today as a writer. 

[00:52:21] Eldar: Oh God. We're talking about 

[00:52:24] Tommy: how much of the same it may have. Perhaps, perhaps what writer, but look, I, I am, I am alluding to the fact that I did sit in the PO at the podcast and talk to Elder.

[00:52:33] We had a, yeah. Private conversation. Powell. Well, not a private conversation, but are you gonna show us 

[00:52:37] Eldar: your book? 

[00:52:38] Tommy: It's a 30 minute podcast episode called Tom Serves Life. And I I came to ask for advice about going to the National Guard. I thought it was a great idea. Um, 

[00:52:46] Eldar: I think now it's called Tom Declines.

[00:52:48] $20,000. Oh. Was a 

[00:52:49] Harris: weekend soldier. 

[00:52:49] Tommy: Oh, yes, yes, yes. That's right. 

[00:52:51] Eldar: Yeah. You, you declined the 20,000. 

[00:52:53] Tommy: Well, it was a win-win at the end because I am writing a book, I have chosen a path in life. 

[00:52:57] Harris: Oh, you chosen a path. 

[00:52:58] Tommy: Yeah. You 

[00:52:58] Harris: become a weekend soldier. 

[00:53:01] Tommy: No, but that's, that's what I was thinking. I came, I came to ask for advice.

[00:53:04] Joe: Tom, I'm interested, are you also, uh, a talent, are you, are you interested in, in being rep, in rep representation or, I'm just trying to get a feel of, of, of the book just for the record. Um, Joe, 

[00:53:17] Tommy: um, I, I, I think about going down 

[00:53:18] Eldar: viral. 

[00:53:19] Tommy: Sometimes it's a 

[00:53:21] Joe: fake, it could be imaginary 

[00:53:22] Eldar: or it could real, could be imaginary.

[00:53:23] We're not sure yet. Have, have you guys ever had a, wait, wait, actually, do you guys have experience with clients that have imaginary, 

[00:53:29] Joe: so 

[00:53:30] Eldar: talent, 

[00:53:30] Joe: I'll tell you, the most successful show on television, Seinfeld, which is a show about nothing. So essentially, if it's a book or it's not a book, or it's an idea of a book that isn't a book that's, I'd like 

[00:53:43] Eldar: to speak to you in private about Tom is art.

[00:53:45] Joe: Okay. If you're willing, this is why I'm here. 

[00:53:50] Tommy: It's growing on me. 

[00:53:51] Joe: Okay. 

[00:53:51] Tommy: I must say, 

[00:53:52] Joe: yeah. 

[00:53:52] Tommy: I, I must say it is turning into a kind of gem. 

[00:53:54] Joe: If I could walk away with two possible, you know, options, uh, to be an agent for, uh, I would, I would love, I would love to You have 

[00:54:03] Eldar: that capacity. 

[00:54:04] Joe: You, you 

[00:54:04] have 

[00:54:04] Eldar: that. 

[00:54:05] Joe: We have a huge team.

[00:54:06] Tommy: Full disclosure, I smoked crack in high school. 

[00:54:09] Eldar: Oh, here we go. 

[00:54:10] Harris: Why would 

[00:54:11] Eldar: you fucking 

[00:54:11] Harris: say that, bro? 

[00:54:13] Joe: That's gotta 

[00:54:14] Tommy: be 

[00:54:14] Joe: yourself. 

[00:54:14] Eldar: Yeah. You have to be 

[00:54:15] Tommy: yourself. That's what I was up to in high school. 

[00:54:17] Harris: That's totally fine. 

[00:54:19] Tommy: You know, 

[00:54:19] Eldar: in those communities. 

[00:54:20] Tommy: I, I, I figured, you know, senior year you're at the tail end. Why not just 

[00:54:24] Eldar: No, but totally, totally, totally.

[00:54:25] To be fair, uh, in our community, that's perfectly fine too. Yeah. You, you know that. And I think that we do a much better job in of acceptance than that. I actually, it's 

[00:54:34] Joe: different, 

[00:54:35] Harris: Tom. It's 

[00:54:35] completely 

[00:54:35] Joe: different. 

[00:54:36] Harris: Okay. I don't spew about all the shit. I 

[00:54:38] Eldar: so, oh, sorry, sorry. I didn't realize we were talking about, uh, don't, don't, you guys don't have 

[00:54:42] Joe: to compete with each 

[00:54:43] Eldar: other.

[00:54:43] Yeah. Don't, this is because 

[00:54:45] Joe: it could be 

[00:54:45] Eldar: your 

[00:54:46] Joe: own individual 

[00:54:47] Eldar: venture. Remember Tom's gift, Joe is, is one thing, is aging. And, uh, if, if it puts your mind into a blender, I can explain it in private. It already sounds 

[00:54:56] Tommy: like a very good strawberry milkshake to me. Like 

[00:54:58] Eldar: there so good. 

[00:54:59] Tommy: Yeah. That's, that's good. We can definitely talk 

[00:55:01] Eldar: about that.

[00:55:01] Tommy: It's good. 

[00:55:02] Eldar: There's a lot of talent here. 

[00:55:04] Joe: This could be a, uh, a team, Dennis Rock Rock's podcast team where you're represented that way. Where the podcast is, is, is something, or it could be on an individual basis. It could be totally. It could. Uh, what 

[00:55:17] Tommy: by the way, is the new, is the new dentist, is it a pile of rocks?

[00:55:21] We just say Dennis 

[00:55:23] Eldar: Strawberry. I'm glad that you mentioned that because of 

[00:55:25] Tommy: rock 

[00:55:25] Eldar: strawberry. There's a connection between Dennis Rocks and now that hy is tumbling rocks. 

[00:55:32] Tommy: Wow. 

[00:55:33] Harris: Fuck you bro. Look like right 

[00:55:35] Eldar: now. 

[00:55:38] Tommy: That's mind blowing. 

[00:55:39] Eldar: You understand 

[00:55:40] Tommy: this? Now that I see that the connection, it's unbelievable. And 

[00:55:42] Eldar: the rocks are on this.

[00:55:43] Thank you very much. That'd be fucking considerate. 

[00:55:47] Tommy: That is putting my mind through a blender for sure. 

[00:55:49] Eldar: Before, can you believe that? Are you, are you, you and the blender? And you actually in the last episode, mentioned that you like collecting rocks. Collecting rocks. Yeah. And then I was collecting rocks at that same time in Greece.

[00:56:00] And now we're back. And now Harris is gonna be, he actually put some price tag on some of the rocks. And some of the rocks are gonna go for 30, 20 or $10,000. 

[00:56:07] Harris: Yeah. Some of them are good rock charms, man. If they survive the, the tumbling 

[00:56:11] Eldar: man. The tumbling. Yeah. 

[00:56:11] Especially once they get, 

[00:56:12] Hmm, 

[00:56:13] Harris: interesting. 

[00:56:13] Eldar: The lizard 

[00:56:13] Harris: of, yeah.

[00:56:14] Eldar: Oh yes. It's gonna 

[00:56:15] Harris: be certified with the lizard lick. 

[00:56:17] Eldar: Yeah. Yes. So Joe, you know, as you, as you know, the lizard is like the big thing, so the rocks are gonna be sold and if the, you know, the certificate, 

[00:56:27] Harris: thanks for sharing. 

[00:56:28] Eldar: Yeah. The certificate will be, uh, Harris actually, personally will, uh, number one, inspect every single rock for imperfections.

[00:56:35] He'll make sure that all the rocks are perfect before they go out into the market. And then, uh, each individual that buys the rock will get a personal video that is not shared anywhere in the social media. Right. It's only gonna be shared with them as a certificate. It's gonna, 

[00:56:51] Joe: so it's a f of authentic 

[00:56:52] Eldar: authenticity.

[00:56:52] Authenticity, yeah. Of him actually taking the rock and licking it on camera. 

[00:56:57] Harris: I just wanna stay not licking. It's the lizard. The lizard. This man, I was pressured into this, man. 

[00:57:02] Joe: Listen, people trade Pokemon cards, uh, and get 'em graded and 

[00:57:06] Eldar: encapsulating, people sell NFTs. Right. Those are not even real. They're 

[00:57:10] Joe: not even real.

[00:57:10] Eldar: They're not even real. But this is gonna be actual real things and, uh, it's gonna be people love rocks certified by, by Harris. Yeah. And the thing is, we have to, the, the lizard right now is, um, it's an organic thing that comes out out of nowhere. Mm-hmm. I have to find a way to be able to implant the rock real quick, to get the real lizard, you know?

[00:57:29] Yeah. No, it can't be a thing where you do it intentionally. Yes. It has to be where you're holding a rock. 

[00:57:33] Yes. Yes. You know what I'm talking 

[00:57:35] about? Yeah. I know what you're talking about. Good. You have 

[00:57:37] Harris: to just, so the reason the Liz happens, right? I'd be drinking something. Right. And I I go, you really like it?

[00:57:43] Eldar: Yeah. It'll show, show it first, just so we're all aware. 

[00:57:46] Harris: I do like a turtle down and then lizard 

[00:57:49] Eldar: turtle. Yeah. So, yeah. 

[00:57:53] Harris: And then I lick it, bro. And they're obsessed with it 

[00:57:57] Joe: as a, as a, as a st It's a stamp. Yeah. It's stamp. 

[00:57:59] Eldar: It's a stamp 

[00:58:00] Joe: that I really like it. A stamp of approval. Yeah. So, so when a lizard in, in the actual, in the world, in nature, they, they stick their tongue out there investigating the environment.

[00:58:10] They're, wow. 

[00:58:10] Eldar: Yeah. 

[00:58:11] Joe: Getting signals. They're reading, they're, you know, it's like a, it's like antenna or a 

[00:58:16] Eldar: sensor. They're downloading, you know what I'm saying? That, you know, I found myself that I like it so much that like, sometimes when I start eating the food or drinking something that I'm 

[00:58:22] Joe: doing 

[00:58:23] Eldar: it, I, I have an internal lizard too.

[00:58:25] It's not coming out yet. 

[00:58:26] Harris: No. Eldar insists. It just runs in my family. Because you've pointed out that my brother does it before. I 

[00:58:32] Eldar: think I've seen your brother do it as well, so, 

[00:58:34] Harris: but John also, if he's writing something, he'll go, 

[00:58:38] Eldar: we gotta be careful that he doesn't try to 

[00:58:40] Harris: counterfeit anything. Yeah. Hung out.

[00:58:41] Eldar: Yeah. No, we can't have John counterfeiting our lizard. 

[00:58:44] Harris: We'll have to get him to sign an NDA Is 

[00:58:45] Eldar: John on this podcast as well? 

[00:58:47] Harris: No. 

[00:58:48] Eldar: No. John. John John's, 

[00:58:49] Joe: his 

[00:58:50] Harris: brother 

[00:58:51] Joe: John. 

[00:58:51] Harris: There's another 

[00:58:51] Joe: John friend who's not here today, but he's 

[00:58:53] Harris: also, 

[00:58:54] Joe: he's, he is a character on the podcast. Yes, he's a 

[00:58:56] Harris: character. Uh, he's a very interesting, uh, character, that's for sure.

[00:59:00] Joe: Yeah. Is he looking for representation too? 

[00:59:03] Harris: Uh, I don't know about that because he's more like one foot in, one foot out. Mm-hmm. He, uh, John, if you're listening to this, uh, you're an asshole. Asshole. What's his 

[00:59:10] nickname? 

[00:59:11] Harris: His nickname? Crispy. 

[00:59:12] Joe: Crispy. 

[00:59:13] Harris: Crispy. If you're listening to this, bro, 

[00:59:15] Joe: why Crispy? 

[00:59:16] Harris: His last name's Crespo.

[00:59:18] Joe: Mm-hmm. 

[00:59:18] Harris: But, uh, he's got a little bit of an attitude problem, right? Yeah. He's one foot in, one foot out. He's not, he's not being serious right now. And, 

[00:59:26] Eldar: and he smells bad. 

[00:59:28] Oh my God. 

[00:59:29] Harris: Totally. 

[00:59:29] Eldar: But 

[00:59:30] Harris: he's gonna be listening to this, 

[00:59:31] Eldar: bro, so It's true. He's stinking 

[00:59:35] Harris: damn Tom and you were his favorite person, dude. 

[00:59:39] Eldar: So look, if the woke my mind virus is actually a virus, Tom, we obviously, as your friends, we are concerned about your wellbeing.

[00:59:48] Tommy: Yeah. 

[00:59:48] Eldar: And we hope that you don't get infected by it. The, 

[00:59:50] Tommy: the one virus that I have is addiction, I guess. Yeah. Addictions. That's the one virus. 

[00:59:56] Eldar: We can definitely talk about that. But, you know, the guys are clearly concerned about your 

[01:00:00] Tommy: virus. And so it's virus, it's possible that in some way that I, I, I got addicted to, uh, people pleasing.

[01:00:06] Eldar: Oh, 

[01:00:06] Tommy: can we go there 

[01:00:07] Eldar: Okay. 

[01:00:07] Tommy: With it? 

[01:00:07] Eldar: Yeah. 

[01:00:07] Tommy: You know? Of course, of course. Because I think that's, that's, 

[01:00:09] Eldar: so you almost feel like, uh, people pleasing 

[01:00:12] Tommy: today? Today, for instance. 

[01:00:13] Eldar: Yeah. 

[01:00:14] Tommy: Just today my parents asked me to go out to the, to the diner, and, um, and I kind of stood there. I was like, you know, one of my kind of stupors like, um, uh, and I knew that I was going out to, to, to read, you know, I knew that I didn't really have much of a plan.

[01:00:32] Um, and I was like, no. And then I kind of talked myself into changing my mind. 

[01:00:38] Eldar: Why? 

[01:00:39] Tommy: And I, I realized why I guilt. I, I, I, I, Matt, you 

[01:00:43] Eldar: being a bad son. 

[01:00:44] Tommy: I realize that when there's something meaningful here to it, but the I, the idea is very much based on the fact that I am trying to be something greater. You know?

[01:00:57] I guess I'm trying to do something that will in some way have an impact on the world. Yes. And I'm thinking about what others think of 

[01:01:06] Eldar: me. Yes. It's not people plea pleasing. Oh, well let's called there. What is it? It's not an addiction. It's, it's not an addiction to people pleasing. It's an addiction to people accepting, 

[01:01:15] Harris: people accepting woke mind virus, man.

[01:01:17] Everything's, he keeps going. He wants 

[01:01:19] Tommy: it is a, okay, I'll, I'll agree. It is a little abstract, but I, I went to this principle that I've kind of thought about lately, which is kind of be close to my family and be, have gratitude actually, it's very much based on this idea that to be grateful is also somewhat, to be considerate and to be, um, you know, it's okay to say no to certain things, you know, but how do you choose and how do you say, okay, it's time for me to be spontaneous or, it's okay, it's time for me to, uh, kind of lock off any kind of distraction.

[01:01:51] How do you, uh, how do you decide when you're free and when you're not? How do you So, I mean, it's, it's weird being a creative, I'll be honest, I, that, that I'll say, 

[01:02:01] Harris: oh God, here we go again with this creative shit. 

[01:02:03] Tommy: There, there are times I've realized that I cannot write and there are times that I've realized that I cannot read and accepting that has actually been very, very liberating.

[01:02:14] Very liberating because now I'm not forcing myself to be so strict with a kind of regime. I, I have a routine, but, um, I now accept that I won't be putting my, uh, more and more effort than I really need to be putting into something. Uh, when, you know, like I was just saying Natoli earlier, I was saying to you, I want to write something very fine, and that I've realized might take longer than I originally thought.

[01:02:50] I wanna write a, a good book. And I told you also recently that I'm doing more research now that I have something very rough. Um, and it's a, to me, it's a sign that I'm evolving as a, as a creative. And it, what it requires is actually, um, I mean that's pretty, I've said everything, said everything, but yeah.

[01:03:11] How do you allow yourself and, and at what point? So sometimes I think to myself, okay, on the weekends I can relax on the weekends, I should just step away from work. Um, but like I said, it's, I'm here today, right? You guys often say, I don't come around much and all that stuff, but something compelled me to come today.

[01:03:33] I think that it's not always certain how things are gonna turn out no matter what you do. And so, you know, um, I changed my mind today and I realized that life is about these kinds of forks in the road where you can make a choice and your choice is made. Once it's made, it's made. You know, um, 

[01:03:51] Eldar: I 

[01:03:51] Tommy: commend you for that time.

[01:03:52] Let's good. At what point are you gonna say yes, you know, to the, the opportunity that comes to you? And at what point are you gonna say, eh, you know what? And let that opportunity go forever. 

[01:04:02] Eldar: Yeah. And, uh, I commend you for that. Before we move anywhere. Yeah. Like, before we progress, pat, that's this. I think this is appropriate.

[01:04:13] Tommy: And Mr. Who, uh, 

[01:04:15] Joe: wait, what is this Mr. 

[01:04:16] Eldar: Madison? 

[01:04:16] Tommy: I knew it insane. What you just said 

[01:04:19] Clip: is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. 

[01:04:23] Harris: Got a goddamn fucking up. No point. 

[01:04:24] Tommy: Okay. I understand where we're going here. Coherent response. 

[01:04:27] Harris: Yeah. I'm glad you do. Were you even close to anything? Are we gonna have another walkout?

[01:04:32] Tom? 

[01:04:32] Tommy: I accept this and I think this needs to happen. This room is now dumber clear. We we're gonna get here with the digital Millennium Mag bullshit. Uh, 

[01:04:41] Harris: for Oh, hold up. Hold up. Before we go any further, before he walks out, I wanna make it clear. Can 

[01:04:44] Tommy: you give him 

[01:04:45] Harris: a fuck you for me? You were in here, right? Uh, 

[01:04:47] Tommy: yeah.

[01:04:48] Sorry 

[01:04:48] Harris: Joe. You weren't here last time. Tommy was on the show. 15 minutes in, he claims it's 30. Tom got all pissed off and he walked off. 

[01:04:57] Tommy: I was not 

[01:04:57] Harris: pissed. He said, fuck this shit. Tom totally back me up here. 

[01:05:01] Tommy: He was pissed. Was pissed. This is what I call protecting your recovery.

[01:05:08] Harris: Seriously. Come on, do this. Great.

[01:05:18] I don't want to cry. Tell them if I don't serve loud. Bone freak. Bone freak, born freak

[01:05:37] free.

[01:05:54] Joe: Thank you. So, Tom, why did you, why did you walk off the last 

[01:05:58] Tommy: one? You know what, I, I have not really gone into, um, you know, uh, how I'm really perceived by these guys. I just kind of go based on, um, you know, what, what I hear. I go based on kind of what I've experienced. 

[01:06:17] Eldar: Totally. Can I get some strawberries? 

[01:06:20] Tommy: Um.

[01:06:23] But I think that my approach to the kinds of, um, you know, kind of, uh, highly critical thinking or whatever, whatever, uh, comments, right? Credit critical, um, kind of, uh, you know, it was a kind of judgment, but, you know, poking fun and teasing and things like that. Um, I think that my approach to my, my response to that has been an appropriate one.

[01:06:49] And I think it's been, um, effective the way I've approached, uh, responding to, you know, uh, just, 

[01:07:00] Harris: okay. 

[01:07:00] Tommy: There, there, there are ways that these guys sometimes say things, you know, that. You know, they, they, they pretty much drive an argument, 

[01:07:09] Harris: okay. 

[01:07:09] Tommy: Directly at what I love to do. And, uh, I don't think anybody would want someone standing over them and saying, Tom, you know, your job is meaningless.

[01:07:18] Or something like that. 

[01:07:19] Eldar: We got the point. And I, I'm going to 

[01:07:20] Harris: spell that. I just, I just wanna state something here. Okay? Tom, the whole point of this PO podcast, right? The whole point of this thing right, is you get called out, everyone gets called out, right? But you can't take it to so serious. You have to kind of laugh at yourself a little bit.

[01:07:35] Eldar: Harris, I agree with you a hundred percent, but I'm ex I'm gonna try to go a little bit deeper with deeper one step further, as Dennis will say. Um, but you have to and explain to you why, why people take it serious, why it's difficult to do, do that. Admit, yes, it is. 

[01:07:47] Harris: You have to admit when you're wrong, 

[01:07:48] Eldar: dude.

[01:07:48] I ta Harris, I agree with you. I agree with your advice and your reflection on it, but I'm ex I'm gonna try to explain to you why this actually happens, this phenomenon. 

[01:07:57] Harris: Go, 

[01:07:58] Eldar: would you like some strawberries? 

[01:08:00] Harris: I had strawberries. Thank you. When 

[01:08:02] Eldar: you develop, right? When you take yourself seriously and you develop attachment to certain things that a so-called you or yours, 

[01:08:10] Harris: yeah, 

[01:08:11] Eldar: right?

[01:08:12] As soon as those things are being out in the open and people disagree with you on those things, they're yours. They're being attacked, okay? So you naturally have to defend yourself. Why? Because you have a horse in a race. 

[01:08:24] Harris: Yeah. 

[01:08:26] Eldar: And I think a lot of suffering in general, people psychology, a lot of suffering comes from this phenomenon.

[01:08:32] And for a lot of people it's hard to grasp or hard, hard to let go. But it is the truth. 

[01:08:38] Harris: I'm not gonna lie. 

[01:08:39] Eldar: Did you understand what I just 

[01:08:40] Harris: said? I do, but if you remember when I was younger Sure. When I was a kid. 

[01:08:43] Eldar: Sure. 

[01:08:44] Harris: I took everything too fucking serious. 

[01:08:45] Eldar: Yeah, sure. 

[01:08:46] Harris: I grew up, I learned how to laugh at myself.

[01:08:49] Eldar: Yeah. 

[01:08:49] Harris: And I learned how to make some fun of myself as well, dude. 

[01:08:53] Eldar: Yeah. 

[01:08:53] Harris: You just kind of gotta brush it off, Tom. You can't take anything too seriously. 

[01:08:57] Eldar: That's, that's the me walking out again. I think that it's a premature advice. I agree with that. I, I think, I actually think that what you just said and your, your insight is actually a gift that was given to you based on what you realized earlier.

[01:09:12] He may have not realized the same thing. That is why he's not blessed with having the ability to not take things seriously. Do you understand what I'm saying? I'm complimenting you here, Harris. 

[01:09:22] Harris: Yeah, I know. I'm just gonna stay. When I was younger, I got in a lot of trouble because I took things too seriously.

[01:09:29] That's right. In school, I fought like hell because someone said something and I took it too seriously. Yeah. Ended up getting suspended. That's right. Ended up getting, 

[01:09:38] Eldar: because you were attached 

[01:09:39] Tommy: to those things. Well, I've also been blessed with, I guess now the, um, you know, 

[01:09:43] Harris: I'm been blessed 

[01:09:44] Tommy: now, now in hindsight.

[01:09:45] I've also, uh, well, I've also have time, had time to, that's what I'm trying to say, to sort of digest or, or mull over what, what it means to be faced with this kind of barrage of, you know. Uh, this belief that what you're, what you say and what your actions are, there's some kind of discrepancy in between.

[01:10:06] Eldar: No, Tom, I think that, uh, like I said in general, I think that the reason why we have you have this type of reaction in the first place is because you come Right. A lot of the times here. Right. And not consistently enough for, for us to have enough glue to understand. Well, 

[01:10:19] Tommy: but, but remember what I said is I did learn from this.

[01:10:21] Eldar: No, no, 

[01:10:22] Tommy: no. Which is why, 

[01:10:23] Eldar: which 

[01:10:23] Tommy: is, which is nice. He's saying, no, no, no, no. This is a perfect example. You're saying No, 

[01:10:27] Eldar: no. The reason why I'm saying that is because earlier you were angry, you were displaying anger yet again. Hold on, Tom. What I'm saying is that you make a statement like I'm a creative. You come here and say, I 

[01:10:36] Tommy: did not make that statement.

[01:10:37] I talk about writing or I talk about, uh, things that I've learned throughout the creative process. Look, 

[01:10:41] Eldar: the guys were here, right? You say it many times that you're, you are a creative, right? And a lot times I know 

[01:10:45] that 

[01:10:45] Tommy: he, 

[01:10:46] Eldar: last week, lemme speak to Harris Harris, remember why I told you, when people have attachments to certain identities and certain things, this is a strong one for him.

[01:10:53] So when he comes and says that, that's his identity, that's what he's attached to. Anytime somebody who, you guys, for example, the, the, the external world goes and attacks that, that becomes personal to him because he's identifying himself as a creative for us it's like, oh, wait a second, wait a second. We don't really believe this.

[01:11:10] Yeah, we don't have the same attachments to, we don't have a horse in a race. He does. That is why there's a clash. It's a natural 

[01:11:15] Harris: clash. I, but can I just remind Tommy for for a minute? This is, I 

[01:11:18] Tommy: agree with that. 

[01:11:19] Harris: Hundred percent. Can I just remind, I'm, I'm 

[01:11:20] Tommy: expressing a self Harris, that's kind 

[01:11:21] Harris: of what I said.

[01:11:22] Can, can I just ti remind Tommy for a minute? Uh, Tommy, when you, we finish this, right? Mm-hmm. I want you to go back to the last episode to the bathroom on Right. Fuck you. 

[01:11:32] Tommy: But maybe I don't want to. Harris, last 

[01:11:33] Harris: episode, 

[01:11:34] Tommy: do you, did you consider why I walked out? Why I left? 

[01:11:37] Harris: I do. But 

[01:11:38] Tommy: let's, I feel like everything resolved itself.

[01:11:40] I, I feel like that we've started at one point. We dis I discussed it. Okay. You know, I was attacked for it, but I eventually resolved it and I felt that that was enough. I think that that's, that's the rightful punishment, Harris. 

[01:11:51] Harris: Well, well, Tommy, I'm, I'm gonna say, first of all, we, we never attacked you 

[01:11:54] Tommy: so Harris.

[01:11:55] Eldar: No, no, no, no, no. But we did. 

[01:11:57] Harris: But 

[01:11:57] Eldar: I'm, you guys did, I'm sorry you guys did. You guys gotta understand that anything that the individual attaches themselves to, it becomes theirs. It's part of their identity. Therefore if you attack those ideals, 

[01:12:09] Harris: yeah. 

[01:12:10] Eldar: It is them that you are attacking the moment. So we can talk about 

[01:12:12] Tommy: ideals.

[01:12:13] Absolutely. 

[01:12:13] Eldar: For the moment 

[01:12:14] Tommy: we can talk about 

[01:12:15] Eldar: it as, and the reason why the person is suffering is because of the attachments that they have. Oh, let, it's a natural occurrence. Lemme let just, you like Trump. Fuck Trump. He's a fucking idiot. 

[01:12:22] Harris: Go fuck you sir. 

[01:12:24] Eldar: You see? You see what I just did? Oh, a natural organic lizard.

[01:12:27] Harris: Fuck you, bro.

[01:12:32] Tell me, listen, I'm gonna just go back. You know how you said you never claimed, uh, you said you were creativity. Last podcast you claimed it. 25 something times, bro. It kept going back to that you were creativity, uh, and then you claim totally here has no creativity. Uh, and he doesn't do any of that. 

[01:12:50] Eldar: Oh, 

[01:12:51] Tommy: yeah.

[01:12:51] We needed some creativity. Yeah, we did get, we did get to that point. That's correct. But you, you know what, and as I said, did learn 

[01:12:57] Harris: creative, 

[01:12:58] Tommy: as I said, I did learn. And, and as a matter of fact, I think it's quite creative that we, you sit in a group and you discuss something about, about, uh, about viewpoints, about when you have dis a discussion and, and some, the discussion goes somewhere and it emerge it like new things emerge.

[01:13:15] I think that is also very creative thing that I did not think about before, which, which makes us all in some ways involved in the creative process. Um, and I, I find these actually, these questions very fast, you know, fascinating. They're, they're 

[01:13:28] Harris: interesting. So I, I think, you know, an apology to Toley Wow.

[01:13:31] For saying he was not a creative. Wow. 

[01:13:34] Tommy: You know, I don't know if, if apologizing to your bully is exactly the right thing to do. 

[01:13:38] Harris: Well, well, totally. In, in honesty, you might have been bullying totally too, because you were claiming he didn't do anything that was creative. Have you ever thought of it like that?

[01:13:45] Tommy: Well, Harris, I don't know. I, I feel that the way I deal with him is a way of just letting the narcissist through. 

[01:13:52] Harris: So maybe he's doing the same thing with you. Have you ever 

[01:13:54] Tommy: thought of like that? You know, just allow that person to go through their process. There's an actual 

[01:13:57] Joe: beef here, 

[01:13:58] Tommy: man, until they're, they've calmed it down.

[01:14:00] I, I think this is the correct way of doing. 

[01:14:02] Harris: Have you ever thought he, he was doing the same thing with you, 

[01:14:04] Joe: Tommy. I've learned in life sometimes your bully is your, is your teacher. Oh, 

[01:14:10] Harris: listen, may these guys, 

[01:14:11] Eldar: this 

[01:14:11] Joe: guy look like 

[01:14:13] Eldar: the type to you. 

[01:14:15] Joe: If you, if you label him as a bully and you think of him as, as your enemy, sometimes those are the people that are actually 

[01:14:23] Eldar: helping Joe's very organic man.

[01:14:24] He fits right with that Dennis Rocks podcast, man. Yeah. 

[01:14:27] Joe: Wow. 

[01:14:27] Tommy: But he folds, that's the thing. I know him. He, he, he eventually, he compensates 

[01:14:32] Harris: so. Tommy, I, I'm gonna let you know something, okay? You were talking about friends, right? Uh, last podcast. True Friends, I got news for you. True friends. They bust balls a lot.

[01:14:44] Harris's. One thing that makes I also got news for you. 

[01:14:47] Tommy: I don't watch the news. How'd 

[01:14:48] Eldar: you like the, 

[01:14:50] Harris: some of my best friends, we bust each other's balls to the point where, guess what, dude? Yeah, you gotta laugh at it, bro. I was waiting for its gay. Gotta throw something back. 

[01:15:00] Tommy: You 

[01:15:01] Harris: gotta, 

[01:15:01] Tommy: I was waiting for, that's gay.

[01:15:02] You 

[01:15:03] Harris: gotta, 

[01:15:04] Tommy: with this 

[01:15:04] Harris: dude when they bust your balls, right? Make a fucking joke. You know, you can't let a hit hard. 'cause what, what you gotta come back at with yo here? 

[01:15:11] Eldar: This, you gotta understand that the busting of the balls becomes more serious when the person has enough attachment to the thing that they're talking about.

[01:15:18] Harris: Well, you gotta, Tommy, if it totally says something like this creativity shit, you gotta come up with something. Like, no, something to his hit him. I get that. He 

[01:15:26] Eldar: takes, I don't know if that's the right, the right way to respond. No, Harris, he takes creativity very seriously, dude. So this is, you also 

[01:15:32] don't understand Harris, you actually have to be creative to do that, 

[01:15:35] to be, to be creative.

[01:15:36] Harris: Don't start that, 

[01:15:38] Eldar: okay? I see what kind of mess I've left, I've left the turmoil here, 

[01:15:41] for sure. Guys, guys, guys, I'm gonna tell you this one thing right now, right? Let's, if we define creativity, I'm gonna tell you right now, every single person in this room is very creative. Very creative at a maximum, and nobody's better than anybody.

[01:15:54] Harris: All 

[01:15:54] Eldar: right. Nobody, for example, creativity is this. Nobody threw this toy the way I'm about to throw it ever in their life and the way it landed, 

[01:16:04] Harris: stop torturing the dog, man. 

[01:16:05] Eldar: You understand this. 

[01:16:06] Harris: Stop 

[01:16:06] Eldar: torturing the dog and everything that happened after what happened. This cannot be recreated. 

[01:16:11] Tommy: Go get it. Pin.

[01:16:12] Eldar: This is as creative as a guest. 

[01:16:14] Harris: Watch. Penny's gonna fucking climb this fucking thing right here. 

[01:16:17] Tommy: She, she has a, she has a, she's gonna like leap off your 

[01:16:20] Harris: leg, I think. Oh, fuck God. She's starting, bro, you better get her bike away. 

[01:16:23] Joe: That's disgusting sometimes. Uh, creativity, 

[01:16:25] Harris: fuck you 

[01:16:26] Joe: needs criticism, and it needs to 

[01:16:28] Tommy: be correct.

[01:16:28] But, but think about it like this. If the, if the thing that they're criticizing is not the thing that I'm presenting, really, but they're criticizing the person who's talking about these things as ideas, I'm sharing ideas. So, you know, I'm not exactly looking at critics here. You know, it's, it's not their, that they've read a book or that they've watched a movie, or that they've looked, they've looked at art and they've presented, uh, because look, I, I've never been in that position.

[01:16:54] I'll, I'll just say that outright. Mm-hmm. I've never been in the position where I've made something. I've put it out there now. People are seeing it. 

[01:17:00] Joe: Well, if you offer, 

[01:17:01] Tommy: but I would like to, 

[01:17:02] Joe: let's say you offer totally an example of something that you're, that you're doing or that, that, that you consider creative and have him.

[01:17:10] Have him debate or, or analyze and, and, uh, give you, give you feedback on something that you can 

[01:17:17] Tommy: represent. It's funny, I I, I don't know if I'm that smart, um, but you know, when I think about, for example, thought experiments and stuff that's, uh, that, that, that would be an idea presented to somebody and hey, like I could ask, what do you think about that?

[01:17:30] You know? 

[01:17:30] Joe: Yeah, I would, I would throw, throw something at him that can, he can actually produce something that's towards your creativity rather than your, your person, you know? Is it 

[01:17:41] Tommy: correct? Yeah. So 

[01:17:41] Joe: if 

[01:17:42] Tommy: you wanna 

[01:17:42] Joe: give him material, given 

[01:17:43] Tommy: so material, so Harris, in a way, you are, uh, Harris, I will say that you, you are right in some respect.

[01:17:48] I did think, I'm not gonna lie that you're not supposed to, 

[01:17:50] Harris: okay? I'm not 

[01:17:51] Tommy: gonna lie to take it so personal. Yeah. 

[01:17:53] Harris: I'm not gonna lie, right? 

[01:17:54] Tommy: However, I will say this, that 

[01:17:55] Harris: on every podcast, all, even some of the videos, Al Dar shoots, right? The whole point 

[01:18:00] Tommy: he's going to bat for you a hard time like heart. 

[01:18:02] Harris: I'm just stating, right?

[01:18:03] You go, if you watch some of my videos, my response is right. This is our life right here. We bust balls. And if you look back on the podcast, you'll see how they bust my balls. They busted every time, dude. But I learned throughout my life, what you're gonna need to learn yourself is to let it roll off the back and have a good laugh.

[01:18:22] They're not laughing at you, they're laughing with you, dude. That's it. 

[01:18:27] Eldar: At the end of the day, we have to define the work creativity. What the fuck do we mean by that? And I think that if you've come to actually, um, understand what it really means, Tom, you realize that, um, at a core level. You should not. If you actually understand what creativity is, it is the most, it should invoke the most compassionate side of you, which means that everybody in life is creative and they're, they're not lesser or better or less than you.

[01:18:51] Tommy: Yeah. Okay. So, you know what I'm saying? In, in some ways though, I, well actually I'll look at it just like this. When you, when a bully continuously does something or continuously provokes you or offends you and things like that, um, this person is clearly, they clearly have had something in their own life perhaps that is causing this behavior.

[01:19:09] Eldar: No, Tom don't. But that's not a creative thing. I'm gonna side with Joe here. When he said that your bullies actually, your teacher, and I'm gonna tell you right now, that the reason why Toley is shooting that stuff down is because he wants to keep your ego and your pride in check. That's it. And if it comes across to you that it hurts, it's supposed to hurt, does.

[01:19:27] But I'm telling you that's exactly the point here. 

[01:19:30] Tommy: Here. It doesn't. But 

[01:19:31] Eldar: he don't give a fuck if you can't 

[01:19:32] Tommy: take, 

[01:19:33] Eldar: if you can't 

[01:19:33] Tommy: take Neither did I. That's why I left. 

[01:19:36] Eldar: Well, no, actually you did. That's why you left 

[01:19:38] Joe: Tommy. If you can't take 

[01:19:39] Tommy: No, I didn't. I didn't. I had enough. You know, like, I 

[01:19:42] Eldar: think, well, you gave a fuck.

[01:19:43] That's why you left Tom. I listened to the whole thing. 

[01:19:45] Tommy: Well, you know, uh, so you did have a good point by saying that. I'm discussing this with people who are not actually respecting it or who are not actually in the same 

[01:19:55] Eldar: No, 

[01:19:55] Tommy: they're not. They don't understand 

[01:19:57] Eldar: it. Think, I think that you don't understand it.

[01:19:58] That the people that you're discussing it with actually are two steps ahead of you to understand something even deeper than you are in that moment. 

[01:20:04] Tommy: Well, how did you put it before? You, you, you, I understood what you said when you said you're talking to them about creativity and they don't necessarily, they don't engage in this process themselves.

[01:20:14] Precise. 

[01:20:15] Eldar: No. What I'm telling you that that's precise. If you precise, precisely sat down and spoke to Toley about the definition of creativity, if you actually want to come down to the truth of what it actually 

[01:20:23] Tommy: means, you, yourself said they were attacking me. So you agree with that, right? 

[01:20:26] Eldar: No, no, no. They're attacking very specific side of you.

[01:20:30] Harris: Time out. 

[01:20:30] Tommy: I don't think they can, they can specifically say what they're doing. 

[01:20:35] Eldar: Let him speak to each time out, time out. And 

[01:20:36] Tommy: Mike, Mike is not here, 

[01:20:37] Eldar: Joe. Sure. Let him speak. Joe here. Say, had something, say, okay. Sorry Joe. Go ahead Joe. Yeah, Joe's our guest. 

[01:20:42] Joe: Well, if you can't take, uh, the criticism of the room of you, the close, how 

[01:20:46] Tommy: much of it do, do you take?

[01:20:47] Joe: Well, 

[01:20:48] Tommy: that's the question. 

[01:20:49] Joe: Or, and in the outside world, 

[01:20:50] Tommy: you know, how do you decide? You listen, you hold on and you, you know, 

[01:20:53] Joe: so in the outside world, when you present what you're trying to present here in your circle to the public that don't know anything about you, and they're gonna take face value of just what you're offering them, you're gonna get a lot more off the wall type of critiques.

[01:21:09] What he's, I don't know how long you guys known each other for, but what he's developed, if he has a relationship with you, is he sees. You and much more of, of, of what you're bringing to the table. And if he has a more, almost a more valuable opinion on what's going on here than someone that doesn't know you, giving you that opinion, that's more valuable for you to digest what he's saying.

[01:21:32] 'cause you go out to the other world and if you walk out of this room, you go to the real world or the public's eye and you'll just delete your account in a, in a sense, once you, once you get to hear a taste of what the people out there are gonna view and, and, and, and say about you that don't know you, they might have a, a whole different opinion, at least, where he's giving you a more curated understanding of more than just you, if that makes sense.

[01:21:59] Tommy: Hmm. Yeah. I look what's very clear to me is that this is a very general and very reductive all the time. Very, very, very reductive conversation. And that does not involve any of the things that I inquire into. And I think when it comes to you specifically, or Mike, um, I think that there's some kind of like barrier, um, in which, you know, the, the most rational thing for you to do is to, to, you know, outright.

[01:22:29] Say like, you don't believe, you don't, you don't actually, um, you know, like, you're not buying into this, it's a lie or it's a, it's clearly some kind of sickness and that's fine, but you don't say that. You just say, come on, you know, stop bullshitting us and things like that. Um, which is, no, I don't think anybody would want to be faced with that continuously.

[01:22:50] Eldar: Tommy, do you know the 

[01:22:51] Tommy: movie? But I'm not, I'm not personally offended. I walked away and I thought that that was the right thing to do. Why? Because 

[01:22:57] Eldar: But you also admitted 

[01:22:58] Tommy: that this is so you have to choose your battles. You know, 

[01:22:59] Eldar: you also admitted that it wasn't the right choice. Tommy, do you know the movie 

[01:23:03] Tommy: crime 

[01:23:04] Kid?

[01:23:04] Tommy: I, I admitted, no, I admitted that. I'm admitting in fact, that there is some aspect to both of what, uh, what Harris said and what you said about first not taking it personally, and then at the same time knowing that, uh, if you understand what creativity is, then it's sort of, um, you know, it, it sort is, it's very, it's it's everywhere.

[01:23:28] It's pure and it's kind of, um, it, it, it, it allows for all these things. It allows for the teachers and it allows for people to sort of 

[01:23:37] Eldar: correct 

[01:23:38] Tommy: conce. Correct. 

[01:23:39] Eldar: And the way you weaponized the word creativity that day was incorrect, Tom. And when that is being said, and the way it's being said, the people who are actually paying attention and listening, they feel that at their core.

[01:23:52] And that is why they're giving you the most real. Uh, reflection of who you actually are. And if you don't like it is because you don't like yourself. Hence, where I'm going back to what Joe said is that 

[01:24:03] Tommy: we did not define creativity that day. And I don't, 

[01:24:05] Eldar: I don't think we, I'm explaining to you that 

[01:24:07] I 

[01:24:07] Tommy: don't think we were compensated.

[01:24:08] Eldar: You didn't even get to that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, that if you sat down and actually had a conversation about what creativity actually meant, like I said, you would retract everything that you said when you used the creativity in such, such a way, and this, and us to 

[01:24:18] Tommy: what Harris said 

[01:24:19] Eldar: about not taking things personally in front of the people that actually just as creative as you are.

[01:24:24] And probably in that moment, I would say even more creative than you. 

[01:24:27] Yeah. But that would, but that would subject Tommy to a conversation that involves a logic and reason, which is something that he's not willing to do. Oh my God. 

[01:24:34] So Tommy, 

[01:24:35] what the 

[01:24:36] Joe: hell? So Tommy, if, if, if Toley, let's say is the bully, and I, and I said sometimes could be the teacher in the movie, 

[01:24:43] Tommy: he's a naysayer.

[01:24:44] He is not a 

[01:24:45] Joe: bully. That's fine. In the movie Karate Kid, if, if Toley is Mr. Miyagi 

[01:24:50] Tommy: mm-hmm. 

[01:24:51] Joe: And he's telling you he 

[01:24:52] Tommy: is definitely not. 

[01:24:53] Joe: He's telling you clean, clean that window. Clean Uhhuh, well, I came here to, I came here to learn karate. We'll go clean that Uhhuh. Well, why do I gotta clean that? And he feels like he's getting punished.

[01:25:03] It feels like he, he's getting misused and he's, he's like this, you know, he feels like he's not being understood. At the end of the day, what he really didn't realize was he was teaching him karate with the tasks that he was being told to do, even though he was resisting that type of teaching. And, and he took it in a negative light at the end of the day.

[01:25:25] He got what he, he needed to get out of the student. The student couldn't see it when he was trying to instill it. So sometimes you 

[01:25:32] Eldar: badmouth the teacher. 

[01:25:34] Joe: Yeah. So sometimes you gotta look at it where, I don't know what you do, do in the position and let a friend, what's your position? 

[01:25:44] Eldar: I'm in sales. 

[01:25:44] Joe: Sales. So in a way you need to have a, a few steps ahead of the people you're talking with, kind of.

[01:25:51] Eldar: Well, well, uh, that's what I was saying is that, um, for, for my job and what I've been doing for about 10, uh, years now, is that I speak to different people every single day. Right. And they want different things. They, they pose, you know, different arguments on different things. Right. And I need to hear them out, listen to what they're saying, and then I need to make appropriate, like, uh, um, challenges back to them or like decisions.

[01:26:18] And I need to know also where to spend my time. Right. Based on what they're saying too. So when I hear the things that, to Tommy has to say, the way that I challenge him back, he in general has a problem with, because, um, he would prefer not to address that actual thing and have an, a logical conversation to it.

[01:26:39] So I will forever be an enemy to, to him or feel like an enemy until he changes his mind about doing that. And that's how I am with, with everybody. 

[01:26:51] Harris: So. 

[01:26:52] Tommy: So it seems like we're more cut the same cloth. 

[01:26:54] Harris: So, Tommy, I'm, I'm gonna make a statement to you. Okay? 

[01:26:58] Tommy: Oh, shut. Yeah. Can you follow it with a question, please?

[01:27:02] If you're gonna make a statement, it has to follow with a question. 

[01:27:04] Harris: Oh, shut up. Go fuck yourself. 

[01:27:06] Tommy: Because this is not a dictatorship. 

[01:27:07] Harris: You need to learn to just 

[01:27:09] Tommy: zip 

[01:27:10] Harris: it, zip it, zip it for a little bit, bro. You need to relax. Okay? I feel right. I go through the same shit you're going through, right? Every day.

[01:27:24] Eldar: You're not, no. You're Harris. I'm, I'm gonna, yes and no. Because again, at the end of the day, it's impossible for you to be going through the same stuff because you're not walking out. 

[01:27:36] Harris: No, I'm not. 

[01:27:37] Eldar: You're not getting your panties in a bunch. 

[01:27:38] Harris: Tommy. Tommy, the whole point right, is I know they care, right? 

[01:27:42] Eldar: Oh, 

[01:27:42] Harris: you are 

[01:27:43] Eldar: in good hands.

[01:27:43] Harris: Yeah, I'm in good hands. I'm not gonna lie. What, what's the name 

[01:27:46] Eldar: of the company? 

[01:27:47] Harris: Harris is in good hands. 

[01:27:48] Joe: Yeah. 

[01:27:48] Harris: All right. How many 

[01:27:50] Joe: hands? Four hands. 

[01:27:51] Harris: I don't know, man. We never discussed the 

[01:27:54] Joe: shit. It's extra money, right? But it's more hands. It's extra money. Yeah. 

[01:27:57] Harris: But, um, the whole point, right? Nine hours out of the day, I'm with these guys.

[01:28:03] I know. They care. They do this shit. People you care about, they make remarks like this. 

[01:28:09] Joe: So the guy you care about is not here right now. Would he be willing to call. And check up on his wellbeing on his phone. 

[01:28:16] Harris: Oh. Oh. 

[01:28:17] Joe: That's point. Because that's part of 

[01:28:19] Eldar: why I, I hear, I think you gotta call. Yeah, you gotta call him, man, because then you have to call your friend 

[01:28:23] Joe: as well.

[01:28:23] That's what touched the, that's what touched the world. That's what touched the internet. 

[01:28:26] Harris: Okay, here we go. 

[01:28:29] Eldar: Make sure, put the speaker closer to the mic. I

[01:28:38] Mike: Hey, what's up? 

[01:28:40] Harris: Hey, what's up? I'm nuts. How feeling? What's 

[01:28:43] Mike: going on man? I'm alright. How you doing? 

[01:28:45] Harris: You, you are live on Dennis Rocks. 

[01:28:50] Mike: Oh shit. What's up? Dennis Rocks. 

[01:28:52] Harris: What's going on Mike? 

[01:28:54] Mike: What's up guys? 

[01:28:55] Harris: So are you done faking this, uh, this illness here? 

[01:28:58] Mike: Uh, no. I think I wanna milk it till the rest of the week.

[01:29:01] Harris: Yeah? 

[01:29:02] Mike: Yeah. 

[01:29:04] Harris: How you feeling though with you? 

[01:29:05] Eldar: That's not the only thing. He's milking you. 

[01:29:06] I'm 

[01:29:06] Mike: okay. 

[01:29:06] Harris: Oh shit. What else are you? Milk him, bro. 

[01:29:10] Mike: Uh uh. Hopefully I'm milking you later. 

[01:29:13] Eldar: Oh, 

[01:29:15] Harris: you guys got it like that? You should, uh, you should ask your mom. Uh, how much comes outta there, bro? 

[01:29:24] Eldar: Oh 

[01:29:24] Mike: yeah. I'll ask her. 

[01:29:27] Harris: Uh, is she gonna come visit tonight?

[01:29:30] Mike: Uh, yeah, I can send her your way. 

[01:29:31] Eldar: Uh, can you tell him to call her lipsticks that you want her to wear? 

[01:29:35] Mike: Yeah. What's up? What's up? 

[01:29:36] Harris: No, like a magenta maybe. Something like that. 

[01:29:38] Eldar: A magenta, 

[01:29:40] Harris: you know? 

[01:29:41] Mike: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Nice. 

[01:29:44] Harris: You eating your soup? What are you doing right now? Man? 

[01:29:46] Mike: Right now I, I'm drinking tea. 

[01:29:50] Harris: That's fucking boring, dude.

[01:29:52] Mike: What do you think I should be doing? 

[01:29:54] Joe: Skydiving. 

[01:29:55] Harris: Skydiving, man. Do something. Sky diving, 

[01:29:58] Joe: hunting, fishing, mud. 

[01:30:01] Harris: Oh shit. He knows it. He knows I guy. God, I love this guy. Right?

[01:30:12] Mike: The guy's over there? 

[01:30:14] Harris: Yeah, he's right here. 

[01:30:16] Joe: Name Billy Bob. How, how you doing, Mike? It's Joe Franco. 

[01:30:21] Mike: Who is it? 

[01:30:22] Joe: Joe Franco, 

[01:30:22] Harris: man. 

[01:30:23] Eldar: Hey Joe. 

[01:30:24] Mike: What's going on? 

[01:30:25] Eldar: Tell him the name 

[01:30:25] of 

[01:30:25] Eldar: the company. Tell the name of the company's, pardon? 

[01:30:29] Harris: What is it called again? 

[01:30:31] Joe: You don't remember the name of the company? That's word. It's called Viral Nation.

[01:30:35] Harris: Oh, that's right. Viral Nation, Mike. Oh, okay. Joe. 

[01:30:38] Joe: Joe. All right, Joe. Nice. We saw your video, Mike. Um, uh, we got a lot, I got a lot of attention, Harris reaching out to you. Part of the reason why I'm here, but, uh, oh, yeah, so, so, so the internet knows who you and Harris is more of, uh, Harris's face. Not so much yours, but, uh, we'd be, we'd be excited to see yours as well.

[01:30:59] Mike: Yeah, I'd love to be there, Joe. I mean, I'm sick right now, so I couldn't make it for today's podcast. 

[01:31:04] Joe: That's fine. Uh, I'm, uh, pretty confident I'll be back. 

[01:31:08] Mike: Yeah. I hope so. 

[01:31:09] Joe: Wow. 

[01:31:11] Mike: So what was your impression, first impression of, uh, Harris? 

[01:31:15] Joe: Uh, I mean, he's definitely living up to the hype that the, you know, the, that the organization was, was telling me that I was gonna experience, 

[01:31:25] Mike: he's a fine specimen, right?

[01:31:27] Joe: Yeah. I mean, he just 

[01:31:28] Eldar: did two lizards out of excitement. I didn't do too 

[01:31:30] Mike: fine. What is, fuck you. Yeah. 

[01:31:32] Joe: The internet, the internet is, uh, is very curious about, uh, about the lizard in him and they're trying to understand Oh yeah. The 

[01:31:40] Mike: lizard. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, definitely. 

[01:31:43] Joe: It's a trademark. It's new, it's new to the, to the world out there.

[01:31:47] So they're, they're very interested and the, I don't 

[01:31:49] Mike: think they've ever seen, uh, like that or heard of it 

[01:31:53] Joe: and, and hearing the, the business, uh, idea that, uh, that eldar brought up about the, about the rocks that Harris will be licking. And so 

[01:32:03] Harris: I also got some, 

[01:32:04] Joe: I'm notarizing 

[01:32:04] Harris: on a 

[01:32:05] Joe: t-shirt, 

[01:32:05] Harris: man, do I not? 

[01:32:06] Joe: Yes.

[01:32:07] That, that, that sounds very, uh, very interesting. Odd but interesting. And, uh, you know, I don't think the internet and the world is ready for that. Mm-hmm. 

[01:32:16] Mike: I agree. I agree with you, Joe. 

[01:32:19] Joe: So definitely, definitely more to come. So I'm, I'm excited to see what else we got here. 

[01:32:24] Mike: Yeah. Yeah. You, you, you'll see what the world's been missing, what we've been kind of just getting to experience this past few weeks.

[01:32:30] Joe: Selfishly. 

[01:32:32] Mike: Selfishly. Yeah, a hundred percent. 

[01:32:34] Joe: Yeah. I wish you, uh, uh, a speedy recovery in your health and uh, thank you sir. Hope to see you soon. 

[01:32:41] Mike: Agreed. Yeah. Likewise. 

[01:32:43] Joe: Nice to, uh, informally meet you. 

[01:32:46] Mike: Likewise. Nice to meet you virtually. 

[01:32:48] Harris: Yeah. When you decide to come back from Russia, let me know, bro. 

[01:32:51] Mike: All right.

[01:32:51] You got it. 

[01:32:52] Harris: All right. All 

[01:32:53] right. 

[01:32:53] Joe: Cold crispy, 

[01:32:53] Harris: enjoy cold crispy. 

[01:32:56] Eldar: Yeah, cold crispy. 

[01:32:57] Harris: All right, bro. Feel better bro. 

[01:32:58] Mike: Thank you, boy. 

[01:32:59] Harris: Alright, bye. 

[01:33:00] Eldar: Alright. Try to cold crispy now.

[01:33:04] Is he still going to a strip club tonight? 

[01:33:06] Harris: I don't know, man. I ain't paying for that shit. 

[01:33:08] Eldar: How old is John 

[01:33:09] Harris: My age? We've known each other for over 20 years. 

[01:33:12] Eldar: How old are you? 

[01:33:13] Harris: 26?

[01:33:21] Crispy: Yes. 

[01:33:22] Harris: Hey, what's up asshole? 

[01:33:24] Crispy: What's up, Gaylord? 

[01:33:25] Eldar: Where is he? 

[01:33:25] Harris: Oh. If we gonna fuck you up, man, you are live on Dennis Rocks. 

[01:33:31] Crispy: Nice man. 

[01:33:33] Harris: Damn bro. 

[01:33:34] Eldar: Where is he? 

[01:33:35] Harris: Where are you right now? 

[01:33:36] Eldar: Tell him the Coronas are here. 

[01:33:38] Crispy: I'm away. 

[01:33:40] Harris: Away. Where are you doing evil things right now? 

[01:33:43] Crispy: I'm in Nebraska. 

[01:33:44] Harris: Go fuck yourself, bro. 

[01:33:46] Tommy: That's the outside, outside of this strip club voice.

[01:33:49] Hmm? I'm 

[01:33:50] Harris: away. Who the hell asked you, man? Are you at the strip club right now? You went without me. 

[01:33:56] Crispy: But you wanted to go to the men and I didn't wanna. 

[01:33:58] Harris: Oh. Oh my God. Oh my God. Fuck you bro. 

[01:34:03] Tommy: Oh my gosh. 

[01:34:04] Harris: Oh gosh. Fuck you. You know since you didn't come through, bro. I ain't paying tonight. 

[01:34:10] Crispy: You ain't, you're not gonna pay anyways.

[01:34:12] Harris: Damn, bro. That's fucked up. Who picks up the tab most of the time, asshole. 

[01:34:18] Crispy: I do. 

[01:34:19] Harris: Oh, that's bullshit, right? You're 

[01:34:21] Crispy: all bored. 

[01:34:22] Harris: Oh, fuck you bro. The New York trip that went on my credit card. 

[01:34:27] Crispy: Show us the credit card. Show us the numbers. 

[01:34:29] Harris: Oh, don't worry. My accountant already saw that shit. My Rosen Ball. 

[01:34:37] Eldar: Mike Rosen Ball.

[01:34:39] Harris: Isn't that his last name? 

[01:34:40] Eldar: Yeah it is 

[01:34:42] Harris: Mike. How already saw that shit? 

[01:34:43] Eldar: Rosen balling 

[01:34:46] Harris: Ballsack. Oh shit. What's wrong with you bro? What'd 

[01:34:48] Crispy: you say? 

[01:34:49] Harris: You missing out bro. Joe's over here having a good time, man. 

[01:34:53] Crispy: Joe? 

[01:34:55] Harris: Yeah. 

[01:34:55] Joe: Joel, 

[01:34:56] Harris: Joe, Joe. Wait, is it Joe or Jonathan? Say Hi Krispy. 

[01:35:01] Joe: Hi Crispy. This is Joe. Joe Franco. Joe Franco from Viral Nation.

[01:35:07] Crispy: Do you know, um, Harris is the gate. 

[01:35:10] Joe: I'm starting to learn that, uh, he has a li little bit of a lizard in him. 

[01:35:14] Crispy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a shed. His skin, 

[01:35:19] Joe: a shed. His skin. Oh, I hope, I hope I get to see that. 

[01:35:21] Crispy: You don't want to, 

[01:35:24] Joe: Hey, uh, John or Crispy, how do you, how do you like to go by? 

[01:35:29] Crispy: I like the pussy Destroyer.

[01:35:32] Joe: Okay. So is there a chance, uh, that I'll be able to, uh, get to meet the Pussy Destroyer in real life? 

[01:35:40] Crispy: Uh, I dunno. 

[01:35:42] Joe: Are you really in Nebraska or are you, are you close by? He's 

[01:35:44] Harris: bullshit. 

[01:35:45] Crispy: I'm really in Nebraska 

[01:35:47] Harris: East. He's staying with, 

[01:35:48] Joe: he's with, he's with his mom. He's with, with, uh, Harris's mom. Is there any way you could, uh, send a screenshot of your GPS location?

[01:35:55] Crispy: Uh, I did. Harris just deleted it for 

[01:35:58] Harris: some reason. I told you he likes to fuck around. Hey, John, if you don't get the memo, Joe here would like to meet you. 

[01:36:06] Crispy: I got the memo. You memo. 

[01:36:09] Harris: Joe, why don't you tell him why you would like to meet him? 

[01:36:11] Joe: Well, I'm here. I'm here, uh, trying to represent, uh, some influencers, content creators, um, anyone who's looking to, uh, expand themself in the creative world.

[01:36:23] We got a lot of traction, um, from some clips of Harris. Uh, a lot of traction from the characters or actors here on, on the podcast. Dennis Rocks, your name actually came up because you're friends with Harris. Uh, there's a lot of, 

[01:36:39] Crispy: I don't even know. Harris never met him in my life. 

[01:36:41] Joe: Okay. There's a lot of good banter between the two of you.

[01:36:44] So even if you don't know each other, uh, viral nation's looking to represent, hire, 

[01:36:50] Eldar: hire new, uh, imaginary friends. 

[01:36:52] Joe: So Harris, so I'm an agent, uh, and that works for Viral Nation. I'm looking for people that look want to be represented. So if that interests you, uh, I say come over to Dennis Rock's podcast. Uh, before it, it shuts down for the episode.

[01:37:11] Crispy: Interesting. 

[01:37:13] Harris: Of course he says 

[01:37:14] that, bro. John, why are you 

[01:37:15] Crispy: laughing over there, dude? 

[01:37:17] Harris: Get your ass over here 

[01:37:18] Crispy: right away. 

[01:37:19] Eldar: Texting about the money. Man. Giggling over there right away is interested, you know? 

[01:37:23] Harris: Yeah. You know, John, you've had one foot in the door, bro. Get your ass over here, bro. We told you once the train, once the train leaves the station, that's it, bro.

[01:37:32] You left behind 

[01:37:33] Crispy: Harris. Wait, shut up. Harris. Harris, why do you sound like a little girl giggling? 

[01:37:38] Harris: Go fuck yourself, man. Go fuck you. That's not what your mama said last night, bro. Okay. 

[01:37:44] Crispy: Told me that. 

[01:37:45] Harris: No, bro, 

[01:37:47] Crispy: my god, my escape.

[01:37:54] Harris: Hey man, get your ass over here and know everyone knows you're not really over there. Retro Fitness. Working your ass off, bro. 

[01:38:03] Crispy: Did I? They, what did they think? 

[01:38:05] Harris: They think you're over there doing evil things. Whatcha putting in those drinks, bro? 

[01:38:08] Tommy: You're getting swollen, 

[01:38:09] Crispy: bro. Check, check the window. I'm right there.

[01:38:12] Harris: I can't believe I really looked. You fucking asshole. Are you coming or what? 

[01:38:20] Crispy: I'm already there. You just can't see me. 

[01:38:22] Harris: Okay. 

[01:38:23] Joe: All right. Well, uh, it was nice to meet you, uh, over the phone, John. Maybe one day we'll meet you in person. 

[01:38:31] Crispy: That's a good one. 

[01:38:33] Harris: What do you mean good one? 

[01:38:35] Crispy: Don't trust, don't trust Harris.

[01:38:36] Harris: Oh, fuck you. Are you coming? Or what?

[01:38:42] See what I mean by one foot in, one foot out? 

[01:38:44] Joe: Mm-hmm. Well, listen, uh, the question is will you forget about 'em when you make it big or 

[01:38:49] Harris: absolutely not. I've always made it clear that I will remember where I come from. Well, 

[01:38:54] Eldar: first you gotta slap 'em with a stack of bills. 

[01:38:56] Joe: Yeah, 

[01:38:57] Harris: bro. What is wrong with 

[01:38:57] Eldar: me? You need to slap 

[01:38:59] Harris: yo.

[01:39:00] This is one of my oldest friends. Right. I've had friends that, you know, when they get older right? They forget about where they come from. They, they go to college, they do all this shit. Mm-hmm. They move away and they don't remember who their friends are. This is one of my oldest friends, 20 years. 

[01:39:14] Joe: So you're, you're ba Margera and John's Ryan Dunn.

[01:39:18] Oh my God. 

[01:39:19] Harris: Oh shit. I don't know if I wanna be compared to Bam. Bam. Used to be one of my favorite game. 

[01:39:22] Joe: Well, bam. Well, bam is bigger. 

[01:39:24] Harris: Yeah. 

[01:39:24] Joe: He's popular because of who he is. Yeah. Ryan was just his friend. 

[01:39:27] Harris: I would definitely 

[01:39:28] take 

[01:39:28] Joe: John with, 

[01:39:28] Harris: is your 

[01:39:29] Eldar: company familiar with him? 

[01:39:30] Joe: Oh yeah. I mean, listen, that, that, that show Jackass had a group of people and then what happened with the talent inside that group, they realized that these people needed their own, their own shine, their own show.

[01:39:44] Bam got his own show Party Boys, and, and Steve o got their own show. Everyone branched off into something that they were able to take out that 

[01:39:53] Harris: group. I was a huge Jackass fan and I grew up skating everyone. We grew up on this one street called Parmley, and we had like eight of us, eight of us kids, we all skated.

[01:40:07] We, we, we grouped a, a crew growing up and, you know, fair Lawn did not have a skate park. So we go to different areas and skate, but we get kicked out, we break bones, uh, they put up no skateboarding signs and uh, eventually we were doing stupid shit and we grew apart. But the point is, we grew up watching Jackass.

[01:40:27] We grew up watching Bam and yeah, bam. Was a true one. That was 

[01:40:32] Eldar: a mess. Right. Now 

[01:40:34] Harris: I know, I I, I've heard about that. I've seen him, I've seen, you know, why 

[01:40:37] Eldar: Bam is, is a mess right now. 

[01:40:39] Harris: His best friend died and he's not been saying since. That's what I, 

[01:40:42] Eldar: unlike you, bam. Was not in, 

[01:40:45] Harris: I I get that, but I'm gonna be honest with you.

[01:40:48] When his friend died, he died. He's gone to a point where a lot of people have gone. 

[01:40:53] Eldar: Mm-hmm. 

[01:40:53] Harris: And has allowed booze to take control, has allowed drugs to take control because what? Because he was not 

[01:41:00] Joe: in 

[01:41:01] Harris: good hands. I get that. But he 

[01:41:03] Joe: BA's not the only person who's lost a friend. 

[01:41:05] Harris: No, I know, but 

[01:41:06] Joe: so that 

[01:41:08] Harris: he's chosen an outlet that is not a good outlet.

[01:41:11] Joe: Yeah. He's, he, he's pointing that out. It, it was, it was his environment, his uh mm-hmm. You know, that allowed him to abuse substances and get to that point and, 

[01:41:19] Harris: and he's had his jackass family that did try to attempt to help 

[01:41:23] Joe: mm-hmm. 

[01:41:24] Harris: Get him help, but they cleared it. Were 

[01:41:25] Eldar: not the good hands that he, 

[01:41:29] Harris: he needed, but Okay.

[01:41:32] Even with people trying to help. Right. Even you said it. 

[01:41:36] Eldar: Yeah. 

[01:41:37] Harris: If they're not willing to accept the help, they can't really do anything. 

[01:41:41] Eldar: Mm-hmm. 

[01:41:42] Harris: You know? 

[01:41:42] Eldar: Yeah. 

[01:41:43] Harris: They tried. Yeah. Unfortunately, he's not, he wasn't at that point, ready to accept the help. 

[01:41:48] Eldar: Yeah. 

[01:41:48] Harris: Whether or not he will be able to accept the help.

[01:41:51] We'll have to be seen. 

[01:41:52] Joe: The 

[01:41:52] Eldar: jury's still out. 

[01:41:53] Joe: So do you, do you accept the help that's provided to you here today? I 

[01:41:56] Harris: do. I do. 

[01:41:57] Eldar: We're gonna transition at times. We're gonna transition quickly, Tommy. Oh, at times. Hold on one second. We're gonna transition into gratitude. Yeah. Right. Um, Tommy has probably nothing to say about this topic.

[01:42:07] Gratitude, but nonetheless, yeah. You, you know, you have obviously, 

[01:42:10] Tommy: didn't I just start it off? Didn't I say, uh, 

[01:42:13] Eldar: yeah. 

[01:42:13] Tommy: That I was thinking about gratitude, being grateful for my parents and going out with them and not, 

[01:42:17] Eldar: it doesn't mean 

[01:42:18] Harris: that you said anything. I don't think that has anything 

[01:42:20] Eldar: with that topic on, man.

[01:42:21] Tommy: It does, it does. Everyone 

[01:42:22] Harris: has gratitude towards their parents. 

[01:42:24] Eldar: Yes. That's easy. 

[01:42:25] Tommy: Well, yeah. It's through action, through goodness. 

[01:42:28] Eldar: Yeah. 

[01:42:28] Tommy: That we 

[01:42:29] Eldar: totally said at times, Joe, you know, show Harris does have gratitude towards us, but sometimes he doesn't. 

[01:42:34] Joe: What are those times? 

[01:42:38] Eldar: Maybe we can start a little bit. Why are you in good hands?

[01:42:40] It's much 

[01:42:40] harder for people to accept help than to actually help them. Oh wow. 

[01:42:45] So 

[01:42:46] Joe: it's want to accept help much 

[01:42:47] Tommy: harder for people to accept help. 

[01:42:49] Eldar: Yeah. Like for example, if you have an issue with something, right. And we're competent, right. For example, it's a lot harder for you to put yourself in a position where you can accept the help mm-hmm.

[01:43:00] And change yourself than it is for us to figure out what we actually need to do. Right. Because I think if we collectively put our minds together. I think it's very easy to find solutions to particular problems or issues. Right? The understanding of it, the changing of it, the implementation of it, the mindset changes that are required, the lowering of the ego, the being humble, right?

[01:43:25] All of those things that you, that you would need to go through. Those are, um, much harder, I think to do than the people that have to figure out what, what you need to actually do. 

[01:43:36] Joe: Yeah. 

[01:43:37] Eldar: And that's for, I, I believe that that's probably for every single issue out there. 

[01:43:41] Joe: Actualization of the, of the thought.

[01:43:42] Eldar: Yeah. Yeah. Like all the knowledge, all the information is, you know, out there. It's within us like all, all that. It's all out there. Right. It's much more, it, it's much harder for you to, to accept that information and, and kind of, uh, understand it and implement it and do it like that, that whole process is much harder than figuring it out.

[01:44:03] Same, same, same thing with Harris's a case right? Case. We can have all the, an, all the answers to all of his issues, but it doesn't mean that he's in a position to accept any of them. Yeah. 

[01:44:14] Harris: So, so that's basically where these guys had the idea for Harris is in good hands. Yeah. Is to show my progression throughout.

[01:44:24] Eldar: But we also wanted to raise awareness about very specific things, Joe. And that is, um. The early stages of, uh, Alzheimer's. Oh, shut 

[01:44:33] Harris: bro. They, they insist I have an early onset fucking Alzheimer's. 

[01:44:38] Eldar: Yes, 

[01:44:38] Harris: bro. 

[01:44:39] Eldar: That is why we we're, we came up with the whole thing that a Harris is in good hands because he can always go back into find out like, what does it mean to actually be in good hands?

[01:44:46] Mm-hmm. We always want to remind him that he's in good hands because one day we believe that he, he will not think that he's in good hands, and that is the time when he's gonna be experiencing that sickness, that illness Oh, Griffin thing. And we hope that we're leaving enough crumbs out there for him to be able to find his way home and understand that he's actually is in good hands.

[01:45:05] Harris: Oh, Eldar, shut down. I'm 

[01:45:06] about to Alzheimer machine. 

[01:45:09] Joe: Well, I mean, and like in the movie, uh, 

[01:45:12] Eldar: the 

[01:45:12] Joe: Notebook, the notebook. 

[01:45:14] Eldar: Guy guy's. Good man. 

[01:45:15] Tommy: I watched it recently, guy's. Good. I watched it because you brought it up on the podcast. Let's see, Joel, 

[01:45:18] Joe: so no one, Noah had to read to Allie every night for her to come back.

[01:45:22] Yeah. So, you know, if, if, if one day, God forbid, you lose you, you know, you lose your marbles. 

[01:45:28] Eldar: Yeah. 

[01:45:29] Joe: Or your rocks. Yeah, that's good. If there's something that you can come back to, whether it's a podcast or a YouTube channel, 

[01:45:36] Eldar: yeah. 

[01:45:36] Joe: You just rewatch the stuff that shaped, uh, that shaped you, that you, you see the, the hands that, that were 

[01:45:43] Eldar: Wait, you wanted us to call you Ally this whole time?

[01:45:45] What? Fuck you. What the fuck 

[01:45:48] Harris: Goddamn mind, bro. 

[01:45:50] Eldar: Listen, that's a very good analogy. Have you seen a notebook? 

[01:45:53] Harris: I have not. No. Oh 

[01:45:54] Eldar: my God. 

[01:45:55] Alright. Tos homework. Wow. It's for you to watch The Notebook tonight. 

[01:45:59] Harris: Well, I mean, 

[01:46:00] Eldar: all this weekend, the only point I've 

[01:46:01] Harris: seen 

[01:46:01] Eldar: it twice. 

[01:46:02] Harris: The only point 

[01:46:02] Eldar: is, and you have to, the only thing you have to do is you have to see yourself 

[01:46:05] Harris: when that notebook came out.

[01:46:06] Listen, hold on, hold 

[01:46:07] Eldar: on, on. You have to see yourself in Ally. And if you decide to come on Monday and you want us to start calling you Ali, we're completely fuck 

[01:46:15] Harris: co either. Either 

[01:46:16] Eldar: you 

[01:46:16] Joe: watch The Notebook or Brokeback Mountain, you choose. 

[01:46:19] Eldar: Whoa, whoa, whoa, 

[01:46:20] whoa, 

[01:46:21] Eldar: whoa. You wearing the same pants that dude was wearing before you went up there?

[01:46:24] Man, 

[01:46:25] Harris: that's disgusting. Oh, fuck you. When the Notebook came out, I remember I was in school, right? The only people that went to go see that is when they were taking their girl to see that shit Uhhuh. 'cause that was the Makeout movie of the time right now, bro. Wanted to 

[01:46:37] Eldar: finger banger. 

[01:46:38] Harris: Oh my God. That's exactly right, bro.

[01:46:40] You, you sit in the fucking back, bro. That's exactly what you do with the fucking movie. So 

[01:46:43] Eldar: why did you invite your boy crispy for the fucking movie? Fuck. That's disgusting. Fuck. 

[01:46:46] Harris: Disgusting. 

[01:46:47] Eldar: Yeah. You wanna shove that finger up his ass? Listen, 

[01:46:50] Harris: yo, you're a fucking asshole. You son, bitch. 

[01:46:53] Eldar: So, yes, as Joe was saying, goddamn fucking mind, we're leaving these crumbs for you, for you to find your way back.

[01:46:58] Because at the end of the day, 

[01:46:59] Harris: where the hell am I going? 

[01:47:00] Eldar: Where you're going is that we're gonna push you to a place where you're gonna think there're enemies. And the world's gonna try to make you believe that. Remember these words. We're gonna see whether or not you're gonna be able to test of time. I got 

[01:47:13] Harris: question for you.

[01:47:13] Right? I got a question for you. What the fuck have you been smoking, bro? 

[01:47:16] Eldar: I'm not smoking anything. I'm explaining to 

[01:47:17] Harris: you exactly 

[01:47:18] Eldar: what's gonna happen. 

[01:47:18] Harris: Yeah, yeah. To your God mind, bro. I'm smoking something. 

[01:47:21] Joe: These are secret service. These are your secret service team. Oh, I know 

[01:47:25] Eldar: Harris. There'll, 

[01:47:26] Joe: there might be a fly.

[01:47:27] Yeah. They're jumping on top of it. There 

[01:47:28] Eldar: might be a day 

[01:47:29] Joe: your body 

[01:47:30] Eldar: or you feel the same way about us as Tommy does. 

[01:47:34] Harris: Oh, don't, don't compare me to this guy. 

[01:47:37] Joe: I'm sorry. There might be a day. Yes. Listen to what he's saying. 

[01:47:39] Eldar: Yeah. And when that happens, we're gonna try to remind you. We might as, as we can, we might fail.

[01:47:45] Yeah. 

[01:47:45] Harris: That I'm in good hands. 

[01:47:46] Eldar: Yeah. Yeah. 

[01:47:47] Joe: Well, how long have has either or been in the picture? 

[01:47:52] Eldar: Well, Tommy has, has 

[01:47:53] been with us for much longer. 

[01:47:55] Joe: Okay. So then, 

[01:47:56] Eldar: but, but it's 

[01:47:57] Joe: possible. 

[01:47:58] Eldar: But, 

[01:47:58] but much shorter at the same time, 

[01:47:59] but 

[01:48:00] Eldar: much shorter at the same time. It's a paradoxical thing. 

[01:48:02] Harris: I've, 

[01:48:03] Eldar: where Harris has been with us only two months, but he's closer to our hearts.

[01:48:07] Harris: But 

[01:48:07] Eldar: if that makes sense. 

[01:48:08] Harris: But, 

[01:48:09] Eldar: but for now 

[01:48:09] Joe: and the worlds, 

[01:48:10] Eldar: but no, no, no. But for now, 

[01:48:12] Harris: Eldar has known me, like I said, since I was 13 years old. He's been a big impact in my fucking life. I 

[01:48:19] Eldar: hope so. 

[01:48:20] Harris: Uh, 

[01:48:21] Joe: so I have a question. Elda, do you think that as close as you feel that he is now, do you think you could lose him like that?

[01:48:28] Eldar: A hundred percent. 

[01:48:29] Joe: Yeah. 

[01:48:29] Eldar: I think that the world, I think he's still, um, I'm between the battle of Harris. Understanding who he is and believing in his own power versus what the world might tell him he should believe. And that's the, the battle that I'm having. So, and until I, until there's, you know, an actual, like a break where, how Harris actually believes in himself and doesn't allow the world or the world to dictate, you know, for him, like his parents, his friends, the, you know, the listeners, the fans and stuff like that, or what it is, I'm not yet sure.

[01:49:04] So the jury's still out on that. 

[01:49:05] Yeah. I think the me the metaphor for it is, and I think may maybe we've all experienced this, you know, when you go to the shore, you go into the water and you go a little bit deep with your friends, right? 'cause you enjoy like jumping over the waves, you know? Mm-hmm. And kind of having some fun.

[01:49:20] You could do that, let's say, you know, every day and everything could be fine. Wave comes, you see it, you know, you go under, you go over, you know, you have your fun, you leave, you go home. But one day there could be a day, and this has all happened to us, right? Where we get caught off guard and the wave fucking slaps us.

[01:49:37] Yeah. Right? And we kind of fall in water. 'cause you 

[01:49:39] Harris: dunno what you're doing bro. 

[01:49:39] Eldar: And when that happens, comes a test. Are you strong enough? 

[01:49:44] Yeah. 

[01:49:44] Eldar: You know, 

[01:49:45] Harris: that's 

[01:49:45] Eldar: because you don't 

[01:49:46] Harris: know what 

[01:49:46] Eldar: you're doing, 

[01:49:46] Harris: bro. 

[01:49:47] Eldar: To get hit by that wave, you know, and pick yourself back up. Yeah. And continue moving forward. Or do you get sucked in?

[01:49:54] Harris: That's 'cause you don't 

[01:49:54] Eldar: know what happen. And that could happen at any point. 

[01:49:57] And any flash. At a flash at 

[01:49:58] a moment. Yes. Mm-hmm. Yeah. 

[01:50:00] And we're gonna see people drown every day. Yeah. People get shot every day. B you gonna be all right? 

[01:50:05] Harris: Yeah. Why you gotta, yo you don't know what you're doing in the ocean. And that's okay, man.

[01:50:11] Eldar: All right. Listen, 

[01:50:12] Harris: I've never got, 

[01:50:13] Eldar: only, only time will tell. 

[01:50:14] Harris: I've never got stuck in the undertow, man. I knew what I was doing. You gotta know when jumped out. Oh yeah. But you have a natural 

[01:50:19] Eldar: floating device. 

[01:50:20] Harris: What is that? 

[01:50:21] Eldar: That tire got your shirt. You worried? 

[01:50:24] Harris: What? What? You 

[01:50:25] Eldar: have your shirt, Charles, the nippy.

[01:50:28] Hey.

[01:50:32] Yeah, yeah. 

[01:50:33] Harris: Hey, fuck you man. 

[01:50:34] Eldar: Thank you. I appreciate that. Fuck you. By the way, Joe is actually compliments that you get from Harris. Yeah. So the more you can get out of those, the better it is for you. 

[01:50:40] Harris: So how it started was me and my brother, we never said, you know, like normal family members, like, oh, I love you, shit like that.

[01:50:48] Our basically Love you was Fuck you, bro. 

[01:50:52] Eldar: Yeah, 

[01:50:52] Harris: fuck you too, man. That was our way of saying I love you, but not showing any emotion. 

[01:50:58] Eldar: Mm-hmm. Yeah. 

[01:50:59] Harris: So I just carried around. That's how I express like, thank you man. You're great. 

[01:51:07] Eldar: Mm-hmm. 

[01:51:07] Harris: You know, I appreciate you. Thank you. 

[01:51:09] Eldar: I, I, I'm racking a lot of these up, so I'm like, he's blessing me with a lot of these.

[01:51:13] Have you ever, have you ever tried actually with the sentimental side? 

[01:51:16] Harris: Uh uh. I have, but this is how I've been most of my life. Uh, what you don't know is I spent a lot of time in a shelter 

[01:51:24] Eldar: sitting on someone's 

[01:51:25] Harris: lap. Oh, fuck you man. Oh, that is weird. That 

[01:51:28] Joe: is weird. Don't 

[01:51:28] Harris: fucking say this. I spent a lot of time, uh, I spent about 10 months in a New York City shelter.

[01:51:36] You, you're from New York? My 

[01:51:37] Joe: hometown. 

[01:51:39] Harris: Uh, it was during COVID. Uh, I lost my job in Jacksonville. Uh, my family, a lot of my family was, uh, 

[01:51:47] Eldar: just, just for the record, before you continue the story, what is a certain female from Jacksonville call you? That's your nickname. 

[01:51:56] Joe: I saw the lizard of the tongue 

[01:51:57] Eldar: Sweet dick.

[01:51:59] Harris: The bull from New Jersey 

[01:52:01] Eldar: Bowl. The bull? Yeah. 

[01:52:02] Joe: Bowl or bull? 

[01:52:03] Eldar: The 

[01:52:03] Harris: bull. 

[01:52:03] Eldar: Why bull? 

[01:52:05] Harris: She calls me the bull from New Jersey. 

[01:52:08] Joe: Okay. 

[01:52:09] Harris: Because the sex was absolutely insane. 

[01:52:13] Tommy: Or where was bullshit? 

[01:52:16] Eldar: Hey, it's not me. 

[01:52:17] Harris: Why work? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I would last for a good 45 to 50 minutes. 

[01:52:23] Eldar: What did you put on your junk?

[01:52:26] Harris: Well, that's 

[01:52:26] Eldar: all natural. 

[01:52:27] Harris: I went all in, dude. 

[01:52:29] Eldar: Yeah. 

[01:52:29] Harris: I'm gonna be honest. 

[01:52:29] Eldar: Can you, can you show, can you, can you voice some of the noises that you, the Gru? 

[01:52:33] Harris: Fuck you. But, uh, I, I showed El do the text, bro. And he is like, god damn. 

[01:52:40] Eldar: Oh goddamn boy. Yeah. 

[01:52:42] Harris: And, uh, but uh, yeah, she called me the bow from New Jersey. So now it's, uh, Harris, 

[01:52:46] Eldar: the bow.

[01:52:47] Harris: That's 

[01:52:47] Eldar: the bull from New Jersey. That could be 

[01:52:49] Harris: naturally. Mike fucking stole that fucking nickname, bro. He made it his fucking PlayStation. Fucking id. That was the boat from fucking New Jersey.

[01:53:00] Fucking asshole. Yeah. But anyway, back to the serious note. I was in the shelter for a good 10 months. And if you know anything about New York City shelters or you heard about it, it's 

[01:53:09] Joe: very gay. 

[01:53:10] Harris: It's not very gay. Oh my God. Really? It's, it's actually like, they're actually, they're actually one of the most dangerous fucking shelter systems in all over the country.

[01:53:19] Eldar: Mm-hmm. Dangerous as in like, if, if you're straight or 

[01:53:24] Harris: my as if you cross someone, you got gang bangers in there. You got 

[01:53:28] Eldar: crossing sword, crossing sword, gang 

[01:53:30] Harris: bangs. No, you got gang bangs. There's gang bangs in there. What the fuck you got? You got parolees that if they don't have, if someone at home right, has a felony or something, they put 'em in the shelter and the parole agents come.

[01:53:41] We've had, when I was there, we've had FBI agents fucking come in. How many times did you 

[01:53:45] Eldar: fight in the, in the shower. 

[01:53:46] Harris: Fuck you, bro. Like, they're dangerous, bro. You, you, there's a lot of stabbings. There's several people that were dead in the fucking bathroom and they'd sit there for five hours waiting for a fucking p in the fucking morgue to come pick up the fucking body.

[01:54:01] I mean, it was fucking dangerous as fuck. So I had to create a persona for myself that I 

[01:54:06] Eldar: mm-hmm. 

[01:54:07] Harris: That I was fucking bad. Right. I show do 

[01:54:09] Eldar: anything can show, can you show Joe that thing with, when you go into the, uh, subway system and what you do? 

[01:54:14] Harris: What do you mean? 

[01:54:15] Eldar: That thing? Joe wanted a skit actually. 

[01:54:17] Harris: What 

[01:54:18] Eldar: That thing that when you stand in the subway, what do you have to do?

[01:54:20] Joe: Oh no, but he has 

[01:54:21] Eldar: to 

[01:54:21] Joe: go get the jacket, the subway 

[01:54:23] Eldar: platform. Get the jacket? Yeah. The subway platform. Yeah. Yeah. Show When you go inside the subway, you have to, you have to do something. Remember? 

[01:54:28] Harris: What are you talking about, 

[01:54:29] Eldar: Harris? Do 

[01:54:30] Joe: you reach for a fake gun, 

[01:54:31] Eldar: Harris? Oh 

[01:54:32] Harris: yeah, I do actually. My dad told me 

[01:54:34] Eldar: about 

[01:54:34] Harris: this 

[01:54:34] Eldar: jacket when he was 

[01:54:35] Harris: in the eighties.

[01:54:35] Eldar: No, no. Can you get your jacket? How 

[01:54:38] Harris: did you know about that? 

[01:54:38] Joe: I mean, I'm from 

[01:54:39] Eldar: New 

[01:54:39] Harris: York that my dad told me, so I was doing it. Wait, get the jacket. Get jacket. If you were ever uncomfortable, put your hand in your pocket and no one's gonna fucking approach it. Paris, the jacket, like, don't be afraid to do it.

[01:54:49] Get the jacket. It's hanging 

[01:54:49] Joe: up there. You don't have to show it. Show it. Come on. You showed it to us before. Come 

[01:54:52] Harris: on, bro. 

[01:54:53] Joe: I'd like to go back to, you know, to the headquarters maybe with a photo or video of it. 

[01:54:58] Harris: So what do you mean 

[01:55:00] Joe: of just that image? 

[01:55:02] Harris: Oh, man. 

[01:55:05] Joe: And pull up your pants, 

[01:55:06] Eldar: bro. It's disgusting. Why do you always wanna be naked?

[01:55:08] Yeah. 

[01:55:08] Harris: Fuck 

[01:55:09] you, bro. 

[01:55:11] Eldar: And for the, for the record, when he comes back. Um, the jacket that he's he's wearing was not stolen or wrangled from a homeless person. Wrangled it was given to him. 

[01:55:22] Harris: I was always told to go back to fucking subway and kind of do that. Right. You sit down, go like that. 

[01:55:32] Eldar: Yeah. And 

[01:55:32] Harris: you fucking keep your hand in there like that.

[01:55:34] And I won't fucking approach it. 

[01:55:36] Eldar: Wait, wait a second. Wait. How would you do though? Standing up? 

[01:55:39] Harris: What do you mean, bro? 

[01:55:40] Eldar: Where's 

[01:55:41] Harris: the dildo? Fucking go to the car like that. 

[01:55:45] Eldar: Can you pull 

[01:55:46] Joe: that out? You, the dildo 

[01:55:50] Harris: back from Grace. Friend, friends, 

[01:55:54] Joe: not big enough. Yeah. 

[01:55:57] Harris: But 

[01:55:58] Joe: you know, 

[01:56:00] Harris: I was in the shelter system for 10 months and I had to turn into something.

[01:56:04] I had to fight because it's either fight or be praying there. So I built this. 

[01:56:11] Eldar: Were were there some, some days 

[01:56:13] where you prefer to be the prank? 

[01:56:14] Harris: Oh, fuck you bro. 

[01:56:15] Eldar: Yeah. Yeah. What, what days are those? Mondays and Tuesdays. Or Mondays and Thursdays. 

[01:56:19] Harris: Fuck you, bro. But I, I turned into something in there, bro. I turned into 

[01:56:24] Eldar: a 

[01:56:24] Harris: savage.

[01:56:25] Yeah. I blended in with my area environment. 

[01:56:27] Eldar: Okay. And that's what we're trying, Joe. And because now you're in better 

[01:56:30] Joe: hands. 

[01:56:30] Eldar: No, and Exactly. And now that he, he has to finally come to his senses to understand that he's in good hands. He doesn't have to put up that image anymore. He doesn't have to be that guy.

[01:56:38] So walls are 

[01:56:39] Joe: coming down? 

[01:56:39] Eldar: Yeah. Oh, well, slowly. He's still like, oh, you wanna fight and all this other crap, you know, that he, you've learned from before 

[01:56:45] Joe: to you guys or to public 

[01:56:47] Eldar: to us too. You know what I mean? To us, 

[01:56:49] Joe: you know, sometimes you can't wrangle him in. Yeah. Like the old, old, 

[01:56:52] yeah. 

[01:56:52] Eldar: Yeah. 

[01:56:52] Joe: Harris comes out, 

[01:56:53] Eldar: but it, you know, it's a work in progress, but we're on it.

[01:56:56] Mm-hmm. That's good. I like that. Yeah. Thank you. 

[01:56:58] Harris: But, uh, 

[01:56:59] Eldar: thank you Tom. 

[01:57:01] Harris: Yeah. That place was no fucking joke, man. 

[01:57:03] Joe: But you're in a better place now. 

[01:57:04] Harris: Yeah, I'm in a better place. There 

[01:57:06] Eldar: you 

[01:57:06] Harris: go. And now I got motivation. I don't ever wanna end up at that point in my life and, 

[01:57:11] Eldar: and tell him another big change that you've recently had.

[01:57:14] Harris: What are you 

[01:57:14] Eldar: talking about? Oh my God. No, we not, he's not ready to reveal that yet. 

[01:57:17] Harris: What are you talking about, bro? 

[01:57:18] Eldar: Those, uh, what's his name? Uh, hormone blockers that you were doing? Oh, fuck no, no, no. 

[01:57:23] Harris: Now you're losing your, no, I'm talking about 

[01:57:25] Eldar: an actual good thing that recently changed about him. Oh. 

[01:57:28] Harris: What 

[01:57:29] Eldar: beside what are you doing every day now?

[01:57:32] Harris: What do you mean? 

[01:57:33] Eldar: What are you doing every day? Multiplet? Times a day. Now you 

[01:57:36] Harris: shut up, bro. What are you talking about? What? Taking a dump? 

[01:57:40] Eldar: Yeah. Oh, 

[01:57:41] Harris: so they're talking about to the point where I once, the longest I ever went without taking the shit was two weeks. 

[01:57:48] Eldar: My, and tell 'em why. My God. Tell, tell, tell him why.

[01:57:50] Harris: What, 

[01:57:51] Eldar: why, why? Like, what happened in the first, those two weeks? 

[01:57:53] Tommy: Wow. 

[01:57:53] Harris: I didn't, I could, I could tell you 

[01:57:55] Eldar: what. Come on, stop 

[01:57:56] Tommy: it. 

[01:57:56] Harris: Lemme tell 

[01:57:56] Tommy: you're 

[01:57:56] eating 

[01:57:57] Eldar: McDonald's and drinking. What did you say that one week speci like the second week in particular happened. Why, where were you staying? 

[01:58:02] Harris: What do you mean? 

[01:58:04] Eldar: You were talking about 

[01:58:04] Harris: Oh, oh, you're talking about when it started off, uh, I was staying with my ex-girlfriend.

[01:58:10] So I didn't wanna blow up her fucking bathroom, so I fucking held it in, bro. 

[01:58:16] Joe: She was your girlfriend at the time? 

[01:58:17] Harris: Yeah. 

[01:58:18] Joe: When you 

[01:58:18] Harris: didn't want her to, when just started dating, 

[01:58:20] Joe: you didn't want her to know that you pooped? 

[01:58:22] Harris: I didn't want her to know that I blew the bitch up. Like what 

[01:58:24] Joe: about 

[01:58:24] Harris: her? Did she not take a dump?

[01:58:26] I blew the bitch up. 

[01:58:26] Joe: She little Did you know that? 

[01:58:28] Harris: It was like her, she her fart and her shit smelled like fucking perfume, dude. I don't know what the fuck wrong with her. 

[01:58:33] Eldar: That's not real. 

[01:58:34] What? What would your smell like to? 

[01:58:35] There's no man like a bull from New Jersey. 

[01:58:37] Harris: Yo, bro, that shit is deadly. I'm not gonna fucking lie.

[01:58:40] Like that shit is dead. So what happened 

[01:58:42] Eldar: to you? Did you have to go to the hospital? 

[01:58:44] Harris: No, bro, that ended up, 

[01:58:45] Eldar: did they 

[01:58:46] Joe: suck it outta you or no? No. Were you, were you stuck inside for two weeks? I went into his tits Or you couldn't leave, you couldn't leave the apartment and go like, take your shit at 

[01:58:53] Harris: McDonald's.

[01:58:53] Oh, I just ate like two bags of fucking prunes, dude. 

[01:58:57] Joe: Did you not leave the apartment for two weeks? 

[01:58:59] Harris: No, bro. I felt fine. Like my stomach didn't even hurt. I don't even know what's wrong here. 

[01:59:04] Eldar: Tell 'em what happened last week. 

[01:59:06] Harris: I 

[01:59:06] Joe: could 

[01:59:06] Tommy: see shit into 

[01:59:06] Eldar: a bag. What happened here last week? 

[01:59:08] Harris: What happened last week?

[01:59:09] Eldar: What happened last week here? 

[01:59:10] Harris: What'd 

[01:59:11] Eldar: you do over there? 

[01:59:11] Harris: Fuck you. I'm not bringing 

[01:59:12] that shit 

[01:59:13] Eldar: up. Why not? 

[01:59:14] Harris: That's, no one wants to hear shit. 

[01:59:16] Eldar: No, it's not even about what happened. It's about what was your reaction to it? What did you think would be the best decision afterwards? 

[01:59:22] Harris: Fuck you. I'm not 

[01:59:23] Eldar: bringing 

[01:59:24] Harris: that up.

[01:59:24] So he goes, nah, nah, nah, nah. No one needs shit. 

[01:59:26] Eldar: It's not a big deal. Come on. He goes into the crapper. Right. He takes a shit. I called 

[01:59:31] Harris: the plumber, bro. 

[01:59:31] Eldar: We've we're now, we're now at this office that we're current currently in going into a second year. Right. And nobody has ever clogged the toilet. 

[01:59:41] Harris: Yes, they have Mike clogged 

[01:59:43] Eldar: out.

[01:59:43] It's commercial. Not that's, it's a commercial. Right. It's a commercial bathroom made, made for commercial shit. Right. He went in there, he clearly took an en enterprise level shit, but to be fair, he, but to be fair, he, he is a bull from New Jersey. He is a bull from New Jersey. Yes. Okay. He clogged the bathroom.

[01:59:59] He said that there was just all brown at, at the top come that shit. And he, he just, he was just looking for a piece of paper in here and he, his plan was just to leave it there, cover it, and put it out out an order sign on the bathroom. 

[02:00:14] Harris: Call the plumber, bro. Mike. Mike, I'm about to walk out. 

[02:00:18] Tommy: I'm about to walk out.

[02:00:19] Joe: Yeah. 

[02:00:19] Harris: Mike clog the toilet and he disgusting to 

[02:00:22] Joe: go the bro. That disgust. That is disgusting. You 

[02:00:23] Harris: remember that 

[02:00:23] Joe: shit sometimes. Sometimes you gotta deal with your own shit and get in there with a pl, a plunger. 

[02:00:27] Eldar: No, 

[02:00:27] Harris: I told him that I was plunging the shit. It wasn't going, going, I had to wait until it go, went down a little bit that I told him he could 

[02:00:33] Eldar: just stick his arm down him there.

[02:00:35] Harris: Fuck you, man. And pull 

[02:00:36] Joe: out 

[02:00:36] Eldar: the 

[02:00:36] Joe: mouse. 

[02:00:36] Eldar: That's what I'm saying. 

[02:00:37] Harris: I had to wait for it to go down 'cause so I can really fucking get in there. Because if I would've done that when that was there, that shit would've been Now question. Is this 

[02:00:45] Tommy: a ploy? Harris, was 

[02:00:47] Harris: this a, did you 

[02:00:48] Tommy: have this all planned? Did you have the whole 

[02:00:50] Harris: climbing thing planned or what?

[02:00:52] No. So what happened was they got me eating all this exotic food that I'm not used to 

[02:00:57] Tommy: by exotic Can we can specify, can we Mediterranean please elaborate. 

[02:01:01] Harris: No, it's not just Mediterranean. You got me eating Ke s Mid Eastern fucking Indian. Uh, shit that will blow if you're not used to it. Blow your fucking testing out.

[02:01:13] Joe: Good, good. Is it that that's a, that's that cuisine's far from your, your, your base. Right? 

[02:01:19] Harris: Listen, I was living in Nebraska for three years. Tell were you eating every 

[02:01:22] Joe: day, 

[02:01:23] Harris: bro? So in Nebraska. Every year, my sister-in-law's father right, would have a cow every year and then replace it and he'd send it to the slaughter and then bring the meat.

[02:01:38] And everyone in the family gets a shit ton of fucking meat. And when they run out, they just go to his freezer and get more. So we would have beef every fucking day. 

[02:01:46] Eldar: Whoa 

[02:01:47] Harris: steaks. Best steaks I ever had fall off the fucking bone. No preservatives, no nothing. 

[02:01:54] Eldar: And where, where, where would you get pizza when you were in?

[02:01:57] Was the cow, uh, did the cow, uh, identify as they, or no? 

[02:02:01] Harris: I don't know, bro, but he tasted damn good. But damn. Like when I was down there, I went to my first fucking rodeo. That was fucking awesome. And I told them, I said, I wanna learn how to ride a boat when I go down there and visit my nieces and my nephews and my brother, I'm gonna go over there, there's a rodeo school nearby, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna pay to learn how to ride a bull and I'm gonna see if I can stay on for that eight seconds.

[02:02:26] Joe: You got the, uh, electronic ones you can go to. Oh, we gotta go there in city. We're gonna take 

[02:02:30] Harris: it to 

[02:02:30] Joe: the 

[02:02:30] Harris: city. That's not the real thing. 

[02:02:31] Joe: No. We we're gonna see 

[02:02:32] Eldar: whether or knight he's gonna be able to do an electronic first. Yes. That's a 

[02:02:34] Joe: good stepping stone. 

[02:02:35] Eldar: Yeah, that's a good stepping stone. Well, these 

[02:02:37] Harris: are like 

[02:02:37] Eldar: kitty poles.

[02:02:38] You, and you can be 

[02:02:39] oiled up 

[02:02:39] and then a thong if you want to. 

[02:02:41] Harris: How fuck do you, 

[02:02:42] Eldar: man, Paris and tell, tell Joe what kind of apartment you had over there and what did it cost? Per month. 

[02:02:47] Harris: So yeah, I was paying a hundred bucks for an apartment over there. 

[02:02:49] Eldar: Whoa. 

[02:02:50] Harris: It was, uh, 

[02:02:51] Eldar: Nebraska. 

[02:02:51] Harris: I was basically a living, I was basically a nanny for my brother.

[02:02:54] I was, I I, you know what? You can, he still, he still wearing the titties. But you, you can say 

[02:02:59] Eldar: all 

[02:02:59] Harris: pair. You can joke. But it was actually the best experience of my life because I got to watch my nieces for three years and I got to watch them grow up for the first three years of their life and breastfeed them breast.

[02:03:10] And it was a great experience. 'cause you know why? Because when I have kids, 

[02:03:13] Eldar: yeah. 

[02:03:14] Harris: I'm gonna know exactly what to do. 

[02:03:15] Eldar: Yeah. 

[02:03:16] Harris: I'm not gonna be one of these first parent type things. Uhhuh. I'm gonna know how to change diaper person. I'm gonna know how to change all this shit. 

[02:03:22] Eldar: Yeah. 

[02:03:22] Harris: But it was a great experience because I actually got the bond and basically watch my nieces grow up 

[02:03:27] Eldar: Nice.

[02:03:28] Harris: And they know exactly who I am. When they see, when they hear my voice over the phone on video chat, they come running. It's the greatest fucking feeling, dude. 

[02:03:34] Eldar: Why don't you tell Joe about Nicole? 

[02:03:37] Harris: Dude, we're not doing this right now. 

[02:03:39] Eldar: Why not? 

[02:03:40] Harris: All right. I'm not gonna 

[02:03:43] Eldar: We'll 

[02:03:43] Harris: give I know. Piece of pie. I know better than that bro.

[02:03:44] Eldar: We'll give her a piece of the pie later 

[02:03:48] Harris: because uh, when I go visit there, bro, I'm not coming back. Yeah, you're 

[02:03:51] Eldar: not coming back. Yeah. I fine. We need to stay global. Alright, so gratitude Harris, what are you grateful for? Man? 

[02:03:59] Harris: Being in good hands. Uh, 

[02:04:00] Eldar: wow. 

[02:04:01] Harris: My family, you know. 

[02:04:03] Eldar: Okay. You having a good time? 

[02:04:05] Harris: I am.

[02:04:06] I'm having a great time. 

[02:04:07] Eldar: That's awesome. 

[02:04:07] Harris: I'm glad to be back in civilization. 

[02:04:10] Eldar: There 

[02:04:10] Harris: you go. Uh, down there. It was not the place for a, uh, single guy. Anyone single. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Uh, everything was far apart. I'm proud to be back where I grew up. 

[02:04:24] Eldar: Good. 

[02:04:24] Harris: Even though everything has fucking changed, bro. 

[02:04:27] Eldar: Yeah, everything has changed, but nothing has changed at the same time.

[02:04:31] Harris: I went back to my town, bro. I don't recognize it. You're still single. 

[02:04:34] Eldar: Yeah. 

[02:04:35] Harris: I don't recognize it, bro. You look at all these fucking condos. Falon was known as, you know, everyone had houses. Now you got apartment buildings everywhere. All the fucking pizzerias I knew are fucking gone. 

[02:04:48] Tommy: What if we could get Trump to be mayor of Falon?

[02:04:50] Would you prefer that? 

[02:04:51] Harris: Yo, this is some serious shit, bro. John's pizza no longer fucking exists, bro. Uh, Sal's Sal's are stomping grounds. Fucking gone, bro. 

[02:05:00] Eldar: Yeah. 

[02:05:00] Harris: All you got left is Bella Vita. Fucking Rays. What the fuck? 

[02:05:05] Eldar: Yeah. 

[02:05:06] Harris: Everything I knew about my fucking town is, 

[02:05:08] Eldar: but nonetheless, you're 

[02:05:09] Harris: grateful.

[02:05:09] Non-existent. I'm, I'm grateful. Yeah. 

[02:05:11] Eldar: There you go. That's very good. 

[02:05:13] Harris: But what the fuck, man? 

[02:05:14] Eldar: Listen, life ha, life happens man. 

[02:05:18] Harris: In fucking, what? Nine years. Everything you knew was gone. 

[02:05:23] Eldar: Yeah. 

[02:05:24] Tommy: Not everything. 

[02:05:25] Eldar: That's part of life. 

[02:05:25] Tommy: I mean, maybe, uh, green Dragon's gone. 

[02:05:28] Eldar: Oh my God. But, 

[02:05:29] Harris: uh, who gave a shit about Green Dragon, bro, that last fucking, fucking knew, bro.

[02:05:32] We 

[02:05:32] Eldar: had a huge fire Joe have 

[02:05:33] Harris: to block out. Dude. That was arson. Okay. Recently? 

[02:05:36] Eldar: Yeah. Yeah. 

[02:05:37] Harris: And entire strip malls gone. It 30 in the morning. That was arson. Was arson. Can tear that shit back. Who did it? And they're gonna build, build fucking town homes. Town homes. 

[02:05:44] Eldar: Jewish bakery and what 

[02:05:46] Joe: like 

[02:05:46] Harris: yeah. 

[02:05:47] Eldar: New Jersey government down too.

[02:05:48] Joe: Who did it? 

[02:05:50] Harris: Uh, I, I believe it was the owner. They're gonna tear that bitch down and broke out. Townhouses. Mark my words. There's gonna be townhouses though. 

[02:05:56] Joe: Oh, you think it's fraud? Yeah, 

[02:05:57] Eldar: I'm thinking it's fraud. 

[02:05:59] Harris: He's trying to get shit and now when he gets the money, he's gonna build these townhouses because Fair Lawn, the, the strip mall next to it just served everyone.

[02:06:08] Eviction notices. At the end of the year. That's it. Everyone's gotta go where that, uh, railroad tavern is whatever next to it. Mm-hmm. They served notices that next year everyone's gotta go. 'cause they're building, they're tearing it down and building townhouses are, 

[02:06:21] Joe: are you willing to go on record? 

[02:06:22] Tommy: Wow. Bro.

[02:06:23] Harris: That's 

[02:06:23] Joe: willing to go on record. May build, 

[02:06:24] Tommy: may sushi 

[02:06:25] Joe: building there. 

[02:06:25] Harris: Willing to go. I'm willing to go on record. Watch if townhouses are billed there once they tear that down. Mm-hmm. They're not gonna repair it. They're not gonna build another strip. Mall townhouses are fine. 

[02:06:34] Eldar: Wait, that happens. Wait, listen, listen.

[02:06:35] I'm gonna put this on record too. Yeah. If that happens. And if actually Harris is right that they're gonna build townhouses there, I will buy 'em a brand new dildo. 

[02:06:43] Harris: Fuck you, bro. What the fuck you 

[02:06:46] dildo, bro? 

[02:06:47] Eldar: Alright, fine, fine. Gratitude. Thank you, Harris. Uh, Toi any words on gratitude? 

[02:06:52] Any words? Uh, words on gratitude?

[02:06:58] Like, in what it sounds like? Uh, 

[02:06:59] just in general, what do you think? 

[02:07:02] What I think, I think gratitude is a good base, you know, to come back to. 

[02:07:07] Always, always. But it's very hard. 

[02:07:09] It's very hard. Very, it's hard. Why is it 

[02:07:12] hard? I 

[02:07:12] like that. Because, um, because 

[02:07:17] why, why 

[02:07:17] do we 

[02:07:17] have such a hard 

[02:07:18] time 

[02:07:19] with gratitude? And we always lose sight of it?

[02:07:22] Because, because, um, 

[02:07:25] Tommy: it's 

[02:07:25] Eldar: never enough. Our, our desires and our goals are in vain. Okay, fine. That's a very good answer, Tom. I would love to hear your opinion, but not right now. 

[02:07:33] Tommy: Our desires. Does that make sense? Our desires and our goals are in vain. Yeah. You mean like our desires and our goals are, are they don't matter?

[02:07:43] Is that what you're trying to say? 

[02:07:44] Eldar: No. Like the, the things that we desire and want to do 

[02:07:48] Tommy: uhhuh 

[02:07:48] Eldar: are not rooted in truth, which is why we have a very hard time being 

[02:07:51] Tommy: grateful. Things that we desire and we don't and we want to do, 

[02:07:55] Eldar: are not rooted in truth, date. Uh, having the ability to be grateful is actually a skill that is, uh, constantly being bound by our desires.

[02:08:07] Uh, desires, supersede, toss, precede having, uh, the ability to be grateful they take over and that is why we are constantly not satisfied. 

[02:08:16] Tommy: Is that, is that kind of does, do you agree with that? Yeah, I do.

[02:08:21] Eldar: Joe, what do you think about gratitude? 

[02:08:23] Joe: I think gratitude could easily be taken for granted. You know, you wake up every day that could be taken for granted. You have a good friend that could be taken for granted. A relationship with your family member can be taken for granted. Uh, and you know, being grateful for the things you have in life sometimes is easy to, for forget.

[02:08:47] You have until you actually lose it. That's when people actually become, realize. That they were grateful for things that they weren't grateful for in the present. 

[02:09:01] Eldar: And you, do you think that, uh, it's funny you say that. Do you think that, um, some people have to go through the process of losing it in order to realize it?

[02:09:09] Joe: Yes. That's why they're saying is you don't know what you have until you lose it. 

[02:09:12] Eldar: Hmm. But it's for very specific individuals 

[02:09:16] Joe: for Yes. Because you could learn 

[02:09:18] Eldar: for the ungrateful ones. 

[02:09:19] Joe: Yes. Because you could learn what you have and, you know, while you have it and be aware of it and be grateful for it.

[02:09:26] Eldar: Mm-hmm. 

[02:09:27] Joe: You don't need to lose something in order to 

[02:09:29] Eldar: Yeah. 

[02:09:30] Joe: You know, understand what, what it is you have. 

[02:09:33] Eldar: Okay. Fair. Um, I mean, Tommy, gratitude, being grateful, 

[02:09:42] Tommy: I mean, what totally just said blew my mind about, uh, about it being something that you can return to. I mean, I really have tried to, I don't know, I've subconsciously considered what you said since uh, you were in my car sick as hell coming off the plane and saying, you think it's a gratitude is a skill.

[02:10:01] Um, and that got me thinking about virtues and how I read. Hmm. Last year I did some philosophy workbook called What Would Plato Think? And, uh, one of these, uh, questions was, what are virtues and how do you establish 'em? I think the general idea that the author conveyed was you establish virtues through acting, virtuous through specifically putting into some practice that virtue that you try to establish.

[02:10:28] So I try to look at it like that. Um, and I don't know, lately I've just really been trying to be grateful for everything that I have, you know, to sort of lower the stress and to like, take a moment, you know, to like, um, to, to think before getting angry or, um, or to, to fully consider people, you know, um, to live present in the moment.

[02:10:58] Um, so, and this is profoundly, I think, like affected how I work and how I, what I choose to do. And, um, you know, I, I usually don't feel the desire to come here. I don't, I don't know why. Um, I think it's because I know why I feel threatened. 

[02:11:21] Eldar: Me too. 

[02:11:22] Tommy: Oh, okay. So now I'm now freethinking here, so mm-hmm. Let's just say that.

[02:11:26] Um, but one of the reasons I would say generally, you know, um, you know, without striking a nerve here or anything like that, um, I would say it's generally because I do. I do have this idea of virtue in mind. Um, I have an, an idea of virtue in mind in terms of being like super good. And, uh, to me, these things are directly related to doing more reading and becoming someone in something.

[02:12:00] Okay. Generally, you know, and I know like now I go out there into the world and I say, okay, this is something that as a writer I could potentially engage with. So I try to keep my attention and to me my attention is like a source of finding healing. You know, I could, I could direct my attention to things and this could potentially become something, uh, meaningful to me.

[02:12:23] Writing is meaningful to me, so I'm, I'm looking at myself and treating myself in a way as a creative and as a writer. And I, that's a good thing. But one of the reasons why I don't come out is because I consider certain things like distractions and I consider them traps. And it's not, it's not personal.

[02:12:46] It's. It's my own fault, you know, it's like, it's it's my own. You'll 

[02:12:50] Eldar: always grab the rat bys tail. 

[02:12:51] Tommy: It's my own ignorance. Yeah. And I appreciate that actually. And so, like, I think there's a positive outcome here to not take things personally. We, we, we said that's one thing. And the other thing is that creativity should be a kind of all encompassing thing that will allow for the appreciation of another person's con contribution to things.

[02:13:11] You know, like I think that's what it generally is. So I am, I'm trying my best to be, to have humility and to be humble about like, you know, my life. Um, because I do see this as like the optimal way to live, and I think it is directly related to how well and how effective I'm, you know, um, and it's just like a, a day at a time.

[02:13:36] It pretty much is. But I, I, I don't wanna go too deep into this right now because I do have, I have a history of having kind of struggles. I have a history of that I'm still, that I am trying to el uh, elaborate on through my writing specifically. Like, this is my mission. My mission is not an easy one, but it's one that it's has kept me going and that it is fulfilling.

[02:14:00] Um. And it's one that I directly deal with. And I, I think that the reason why this isn't such a hot button right now is because I've mentioned this before, Harris, like, you may have not been here, you may not have been here, but I've, this has repeatedly come up where my book is related to me, has related my life.

[02:14:17] And that's, these are the bits and pieces that I come in. 

[02:14:20] Harris: Oh, I, I, I know you went on for 15 minutes last time about this man, 

[02:14:25] Tommy: and, and what happened. And look, and here's the thing. I am trying to establish an identity. 

[02:14:30] Harris: So I have a question, 

[02:14:31] Tommy: but I'm not exactly sure quite what that identity is. 

[02:14:34] Harris: So I have a question for you.

[02:14:36] Tommy: Yes. 

[02:14:38] Harris: Can I please have a sneak peek at this book? I mean, we've been asking for so long. 

[02:14:41] Tommy: I'm glad you asked. I I think I'm more open to it now. Um, but, uh, I just want, that does not in any way make me make it an obligatory. You'll 

[02:14:49] Eldar: never see this book. Thanks. 

[02:14:51] Harris: You. You really 

[02:14:51] Eldar: believe that. 

[02:14:52] Joe: But Tommy, sometimes, sometimes, let's say you're the book you're writing.

[02:14:55] Tommy: Yeah. 

[02:14:56] Joe: Doesn't need to be for anyone. You don't need to prove anything to anyone. If, if writing is what makes you happy, 

[02:15:02] Tommy: yes. 

[02:15:02] Joe: Then let writing just make you happy. Don't let writing or making this book an ultimate goal to prove something, to make you rich, to become a writer. If writing is the cre, the creative aspect of writing is something you like.

[02:15:17] Do it because you like it. 

[02:15:19] Tommy: Yeah. That's very 

[02:15:19] Joe: interesting. You know, and don't, don't, don't take yourself that serious where you put all this pressure 

[02:15:23] Tommy: on you just having someone's vantage point. 

[02:15:25] Joe: Yeah. Well, 

[02:15:25] Tommy: is is a, is very, is it's, it, it, it adds, it brings a lot of, uh, information in, you know, so what you, what you said, I think, uh, might be expressed a different way if somebody else said it.

[02:15:37] Uh, and, you know, from a different point of view, I, I really like that. I don't, I don't think, like, you know, I, I like directors for example. They're asked, did you write this role for that particular actor? Um. It's not really like what I'm writing, I don't think would be related. Um, and it might even be advice, I think it might be advice to think about to who your, who's your, who your audience is, like who's that particular person that you write for?

[02:16:05] Um, and I don't know if that's, I think that might, I think that might motivate on some level, you know, just so that like a, the way a cup of coffee might help you wake, it might help you wake up in the morning. Um, but, uh, I, I don't think like that in particular, and I have thought of it. I've tried to explore that.

[02:16:23] Is there somebody who I'm writing for somebody who I'm, um, like I'm trying to master this craft, which is kind of, you know, that's the, uh, that's the challenge. And I, I find that the more that I do kind of what I've been doing. Is allowing me to get there, but it's very hard to gauge and measure it without certain things, which I have not talked about, and I won't, uh, maybe, maybe it's not the right time to discuss that, or maybe it's not, it's not a proper discussion at all.

[02:16:53] Eldar: If you're, if you're, I'm, I'm not sure if you, your company comes down if you're confused or not. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm not sure if your company has considered this, this in the past, because I know it could get it, it can get quite expensive, but have they ever considered paying somebody to not continue being, like, being creative or, or, or creating content?

[02:17:10] Yeah. Um, I would like to install that. Um, I think Tom, Tom's benchmark is actually, uh, aging, 

[02:17:17] Harris: so, 

[02:17:18] Eldar: right. And if Tom has Yeah. Finally bought in, into aging as being the source of his happiness, just aging, I think that that will be gold when it comes to him being creative. But I, it's very hard to do, obviously, you know, it's hard to say, you know what, I'm just aging and I'm happy about that.

[02:17:35] Joe: So. Well, the easiest thing is to say, you know, to each their own. And when you have your own spin on whatever you want, uh, there's always gonna be a customer for it. 

[02:17:46] Eldar: Yeah. 

[02:17:46] Joe: Because what people, one person's trash another person's treasure. 

[02:17:51] Eldar: Yeah. 

[02:17:51] Joe: And you don't, you know, you don't need to have something that's tangible.

[02:17:55] So, yeah, exactly. It could be anything. It could just be, it could just be you aging if it, if it is, like I said, Seinfeld made a show on, on that and made a career out of it, and it was about a show, about nothing. Which became something because it was 

[02:18:10] Tommy: just my attention. Giving my attention to the world has allowed me to, uh, come across something that was very peculiar.

[02:18:19] I don't know where you came up with this aging thing, but, uh, I think it's funny. 

[02:18:23] Eldar: I think it's 

[02:18:24] Tommy: anecdote. It's scary. 

[02:18:25] Eldar: I know. No, I actually think that's the antidote to your suffering, 

[02:18:28] Tommy: per, perhaps. Yeah, perhaps. But, uh, what, what was it? I can't think of it. Um, just gimme a second. It was, um, 

[02:18:35] Eldar: aging Tom. 

[02:18:37] Tommy: No, no, no, no.

[02:18:38] Um,

[02:18:42] Eldar: okay, while you think, why don't we give Paris a go, 

[02:18:44] Harris: Tom, I just wanna remind you, 

[02:18:46] Tommy: oh, 

[02:18:46] Harris: little paper you 

[02:18:46] Tommy: signed there. Yes, yes. It was, it was, 

[02:18:49] Harris: hold on. 

[02:18:49] Tommy: It was the beginning of Susan Sontag's book, and she's a feminist. Mm-hmm. I don't know much about her, but she's a feminist. Yeah. Um, in the seventies, I think. And, uh, it's called on Women.

[02:18:59] And I read the introduction at Barnes and Noble, and the first thing was that she wrote roughly, I'm gonna paraphrase it. I don't know. It had to do with why, how society cares about women aging. And once they reach a certain age, she's saying, um, they sort of become irrelevant or, or something like that. So, and I thought that was very interesting and I think I find this so interesting because, you know, potentially what you've gi given me is something very valuable.

[02:19:29] You know, by, by allowing language to sort of shape the way that I see the world, it could be very valuable. I think the question is, is taking action. How do you go out? Yes. And that's how do you go out into the world and make something of yourself? 

[02:19:43] Eldar: I agree. And that's, I think that as you develop maybe humility through these types of conversations, I think you're gonna ask the right questions about agree.

[02:19:50] How do I age gracefully? Uh, and when you start asking those questions, I think that you'll be able to find certain answers that's gonna be able to liberate you and give you peace. The internal piece that you're looking for. 

[02:20:00] Tommy: Can you play that thing the whole lot or nothing thing the mr thing? 

[02:20:04] Eldar: Uh, he would, 

[02:20:05] Tommy: but doesn't everything feel said is most idiotic.

[02:20:08] Eldar: Yeah. Harris. 

[02:20:09] Harris: So I just wanna state what I was stating. 

[02:20:11] Eldar: Yeah. 

[02:20:12] Harris: Back to your book, right? Uh, yeah, just remember that to the bones piece of paper you signed there? 

[02:20:17] Tommy: Yes. 

[02:20:18] Harris: Because if my name ends up in there. Yeah, this is mine, bro. 

[02:20:21] Tommy: Your, don't worry. I'm gonna call you Lib Baba in the, into my book 

[02:20:25] Harris: instead. Ally, my baba, any of my catchphrases, the things that I said and I, I'm gonna say she climb, they climbed the tree is mine.

[02:20:33] Eldar: Good. Good. 

[02:20:35] Harris: I'm taking your ass to court boy. 

[02:20:37] Eldar: And he has to commit to naming any of his sons. 

[02:20:40] Harris: Yeah. Their last name is gonna be Schu Schuster. That's damn right, bro. They're gonna have my last name. Your grandkids too. 

[02:20:46] Eldar: You heard? 

[02:20:48] Joe: My question is, can I go home with a rock that's gonna lick by Harris? 

[02:20:51] Harris: Oh, absolutely.

[02:20:53] Joe: Can we authenticate it? He has 

[02:20:54] Harris: a free one. 

[02:20:54] Joe: What can we authenticate with the DGI? What? 

[02:20:57] Tommy: He's gotta lick it three times. At least 

[02:20:59] Joe: have an eyeball on this one. Wait, wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We didn't talk about this. 

[02:21:04] Harris: I'll give him one. 

[02:21:05] Tommy: If Harris 

[02:21:06] Harris: swallow a rock right now, that's fucking bad. He gracefully came here, came on the podcast.

[02:21:11] Okay, let him go home with a souvenir. All right? 

[02:21:14] Eldar: Mm-hmm. This could be, this could be okay, but I'm giving you this one and lost time. Listen, because remember Harris, what we talked about, that all decisions have to go through the walk through the panel. 

[02:21:26] Harris: I understand 

[02:21:27] Eldar: that. Yeah. You just made, 

[02:21:29] you just made an executive decision and you just jumped over us.

[02:21:31] And Mike's not even here 

[02:21:33] a ask for the blessing. 

[02:21:34] Harris: Blessing. 

[02:21:35] Eldar: Yes. 

[02:21:36] Okay. 

[02:21:37] But you have to, but you have to call Mike now first. 

[02:21:39] Okay? 

[02:21:40] Oh 

[02:21:41] my. Yeah. Call Mike then, then you definitely get the full blessing. 

[02:21:43] Yeah. 

[02:21:44] Right Now you want how many percent out of three? 

[02:21:48] Harris: Well, it doesn't have to be unanimous, does it? 

[02:21:50] Eldar: All decisions does have be 

[02:21:51] unanimous.

[02:21:51] All decisions have to be unanimous. 

[02:21:54] Two out three as what not Doctor I get. 

[02:21:58] Harris: Hey, listen here. Uh, numb nuts. I, I got a question for you so far. We got two out of, uh, three S's. You would be the third, uh, Uhhuh. Is it all right with you? If I give, uh, Joe here, uh, uh, a rock with the lizard licks, man off authentication, man.

[02:22:17] Mike: Uh, I mean for free. 

[02:22:18] Harris: For free. 

[02:22:19] See, he had 

[02:22:20] Mike: the same idea 

[02:22:20] Harris: for free. 

[02:22:22] Mike: Um, yeah. I mean, as long as you feel, as long as you know, we agree, it's an investment. Our future relationship, you. 

[02:22:30] Harris: This is, uh, the lawyer like guy man. 

[02:22:33] Joe: Well, 

[02:22:33] Harris: I think 

[02:22:34] Joe: people were buying pieces of pizza for, for one whole Bitcoin back in the day.

[02:22:38] They didn't know the value of it. I want to take this rock. Joe's very smart man. 

[02:22:43] Harris: I know. 

[02:22:43] Joe: He's very smart. Have Harris ett. The good thing is we have more rocks. 

[02:22:46] Harris: Yeah. 

[02:22:46] Joe: Eventually, we'll, you know, these, these rocks will, will be moving boulders. We, we'll be building pyramids with these, these rocks looked by Harris.

[02:22:54] So that's what I'm, I'm hoping to take back to, uh, the headquarters and, and, and let them see the video and, and put value into it. Let, let's, let's get the equity up. Return on investment is the whole, the whole idea here 

[02:23:09] Mike: sounds like you're serious about it her, so I think it's worth the find investment on our part.

[02:23:14] Joe: Okay. 

[02:23:16] Harris: Thank you Mike. Thank you Mike. We'll call you afterwards, bud. 

[02:23:19] Joe: Alright, 

[02:23:20] Mike: cool. 

[02:23:20] Harris: Alright. 

[02:23:22] Joe: Okay. 

[02:23:24] Harris: You ready? 

[02:23:24] Joe: Yeah. 

[02:23:24] Harris: Wait, need tequila left in there? 

[02:23:27] Joe: I get the DGI close. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Let's, I want close up. This thing is awesome. 

[02:23:32] Eldar: Need see in there. Whole lizards have to, have to get, uh, recorded right. For the rocks.

[02:23:35] Harris: All right. 

[02:23:36] Eldar: And, and it's only gonna be shared. I'm gonna cut it out. I'm gonna only share it with Joe. 

[02:23:39] Joe: Wow. So, so, so you're gonna And, and the pod. Yeah. 

[02:23:45] Harris: And the pod 

[02:23:46] Joe: with 

[02:23:46] Eldar: a bang. 

[02:23:47] Joe: Alright. 

[02:23:47] Harris: And the podcast with a bang. This is gonna be the last 

[02:23:49] Joe: Thanks for having me. Everyone. 

[02:23:51] Harris: Hold on for 

[02:23:51] Joe: sure. On Dennis Rocks.

[02:23:54] Appreciate having the opportunity. 

[02:23:55] Harris: What? This is the end of the podcast? Yes. 

[02:23:57] Joe: Yeah. 

[02:23:57] Eldar: No, this is when Dennis Cox 

[02:23:59] Harris: begins. I thought we, bro, I thought, I thought we asked everyone's thoughts, man. That's all we 

[02:24:04] Eldar: did. Like the closing thoughts. 

[02:24:06] Joe: Oh, it was gratitude. 

[02:24:08] Harris: That's stupid man. Now we need to go to Pizza 

[02:24:10] Eldar: Town and have a few pots.

[02:24:12] Joe: Pizza Town. 

[02:24:13] Harris: You ever have Pizza Town? Man? 

[02:24:14] Joe: No. I never been out here in this neck of the woods 

[02:24:17] Harris: Pizza Town, man. They're the best man they got. You know 

[02:24:20] you're 

[02:24:20] Joe: talking to a New Yorker, right? Oh 

[02:24:22] Harris: well. Oh shit. Almost every a pizza owner in New Jersey got to, to New York. 

[02:24:27] Joe: Okay, well, I'll uh, put it to 

[02:24:30] Harris: the desk.

[02:24:30] Pizza Town has been around for, what do we say, a hundred years? 

[02:24:33] Joe: Just about 

[02:24:34] Harris: a hundred years. 

[02:24:35] Joe: Mm-hmm. Alright. 

[02:24:36] Harris: California doors. Awesome. 

[02:24:38] Joe: Sun need to be able to buy a pizza town with that rock. 

[02:24:42] Eldar: Whoa. 

[02:24:43] Joe: He's thinking big.

[02:24:48] Harris: Where the hell is this guy? Man? 

[02:24:50] Eldar: I don't know. Maybe he had to go on the crap. 

[02:24:54] Harris: What the fuck happened to you, man?

[02:24:59] Eldar: Wow. 

[02:25:02] Harris: What the fuck have you been eating, bro? 

[02:25:04] Eldar: Palestinian food. 

[02:25:05] Harris: Oh, that's right. We did have, dunno how to 

[02:25:06] Tommy: cut that out. 

[02:25:08] Eldar: Why? What the, 

[02:25:10] Harris: what did he say? 

[02:25:11] Eldar: I said You gonna cut that out? 

[02:25:12] Tommy: Oh my God. 

[02:25:13] Harris: What's your problem, bro? 

[02:25:14] Eldar: Yeah. What's your problem, boy? 

[02:25:16] Tommy: What's that? That's not offensive. 

[02:25:17] Harris: What are you taking sides here?

[02:25:19] Is that what you're doing? I'm not, 

[02:25:20] Tommy: I'm not sure. Whatever. 

[02:25:21] Harris: You need to stop being woke, boy. 

[02:25:23] Eldar: Okay. 

[02:25:25] Harris: All right. 

[02:25:26] Eldar: This is the first one. 

[02:25:28] Harris: The first lizard authenticated rock.

[02:25:41] You can hear his licking in. 

[02:25:44] Joe: Thank you very much. 

[02:25:45] Harris: Wow. 

[02:25:47] Joe: Wow. It has, has the reflection of the lights in the background. It's really, yeah. You can now really see it. 

[02:25:53] Harris: Sorry if I got a little tequila on there, man. 

[02:25:55] Joe: No, 

[02:25:55] Harris: no. It's, 

[02:25:56] Joe: I wanted to air dry. It's, it, 

[02:25:57] Eldar: it's, 

[02:25:58] Joe: uh, smudges. 

[02:25:59] Eldar: Sterilizing. It, 

[02:26:00] Joe: is there anything I could put this in?

[02:26:02] Harris: Uh, 

[02:26:02] Joe: so I, I don't lose, uh, 

[02:26:05] Eldar: the DNA man. You know what? I actually think that you should leave it here. 

[02:26:07] Joe: Okay. 

[02:26:08] Eldar: Um, the reason for that is, is because if this is gonna be a continuing relationship, that I think that it will be, 

[02:26:14] Joe: mm, 

[02:26:15] Eldar: uh, that rock should be going to the next stage. Mm-hmm. And Harris can explain that, obviously.

[02:26:20] Harris: Oh, 

[02:26:20] Eldar: that 

[02:26:21] Harris: it, yeah. But then the DNA will come off. 

[02:26:24] Eldar: I think we can give 'em another one afterwards. Right. Where, 

[02:26:27] Harris: yeah. So this has, these rocks have several stages. 

[02:26:31] Eldar: Yeah. 

[02:26:32] Harris: Uh, the Tumblr, they have four different, uh, polishes they have to go through. Mm-hmm. They have to shine. 

[02:26:40] Eldar: That one only went through the first one.

[02:26:42] Crispy: Mm-hmm. 

[02:26:42] Eldar: And we are waiting for it to go to the next step with finer grit and then in finer grit. And then it's gonna go into polished grit. And then it's gonna actually shine. Shine. It's not gonna be, uh, what you're feeling right now, which is broth still. It's gonna be so 

[02:26:55] Joe: sharp. Like a diamond. Oh 

[02:26:57] Eldar: yeah.

[02:26:57] Shiny 

[02:26:57] Joe: like a diamond. Okay. You want give 

[02:26:59] Harris: back? 

[02:26:59] Joe: I believe that. Yeah. So 

[02:27:00] Eldar: just remember that one. That's the one you wanted. And we could definitely save that. 

[02:27:02] Joe: Oh yeah. Put it in a safe place. Yeah. 'cause I have now grown attachment to it and I'm invested in that rock. Awesome. All right. Perfect. 

[02:27:10] Eldar: Sick. 

[02:27:10] Joe: All right.

[02:27:11] So, uh, are we gonna Pizza town Uhhuh. Oh, you've heard about this place? 

[02:27:15] Harris: I talked about it said, invited me to pizza. He said, you gotta remember I'm from New York. I said, you gotta understand that moats pizza owners. 

[02:27:22] Eldar: Yeah. 

[02:27:22] Harris: Come from New York here in Jersey, 

[02:27:24] Eldar: we could definitely do that. All right. Well, thank you so much for coming.

[02:27:26] These are our final thoughts and uh, let's go. 

[02:27:28] Harris: One 

[02:27:29] Eldar: last go. Fuck yourself. Just wanna say, uh, uh, I got the Okay. From Viral Nation to, uh, to, uh, to pay for Pizza Town. Really? Pizza. Oh wow. Oh wow. All right. Thank you.