Dennis Rox

142. From Skate culture to Art: Zeek's mastermind behind his street brand - Skazoodle

• Eldar, Mike, Harris, Zeek, DJ • Episode 142

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Can authenticity in art truly exist without evoking emotion?

Join us on a lively exploration as we ponder this compelling question, and more, in a chat that covers everything from Kanye West's creative genius to the peculiar concept of Eldarism—a movement inspired by a humorous misunderstanding. With plenty of laughter and playful debates, we dive into the essence of artistic freedom, the role of nostalgia in self-expression, and the whimsical notion of grooming our friend Harris for a presidential run in the distant future. This episode is packed with humorous anecdotes and thought-provoking exchanges that blend art, identity, and the unpredictable twists of life.

Our guest Zeek from Australia, the creative mind behind the street fashion brand "Skazoodle," brings a unique perspective to the table. Listen as he shares the vibrant intersection of art and fashion, influenced by the local culture of Queanbeyan, New South Wales. His journey is a testament to the additive nature of creativity, where layers of art and music intertwine to shape personal and brand identities. From humorous tales of metaphorical blacklists to the deeper exploration of trust and skepticism in the public sphere, the conversation is as enlightening as it is entertaining.

We also touch on the dynamics of personal personas and self-discovery, using humor and humility to navigate the challenges of authenticity and public perception. From the unpredictable journey of skateboarding to the unexpected life lessons learned along the way, this episode celebrates the resilience and humor that come with embracing one's true self. So tune in for a vibrant blend of insightful discussions, laughter, and the occasional inebriated debate, all woven together into a tapestry of creativity, personal growth, and the ever-evolving nature of identity.

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Zeek:

On this week's episode. I think an artist has a reason, but just because you have a reason to do something, you might not always have a definition for it. Should you, though, as a good artist? Oh, as a good artist, yes.

Mike:

Now, if you, as an artist, are able to tap into your true self and present your true self to the world, you will get discovered. Because I just think it's inevitable. I think that's just how the world works. You can only be truly happy when you are your true self.

DJ:

Everybody's capable of creating something.

Eldar:

But here's my argument with Kanye West or anybody else who's profound right? Like sure, they're creating stuff and they're doing stuff, but aren't we creating every single day? You're probably wondering who's Nate right? So he's like he got tired of us calling him Nate. This used to be our buddy, true. But, he's not here anymore. He's not like he's still like in the physical realm, but he's not spiritually with us anymore.

Mike:

Right, right, you know what I mean.

Everyone:

He's been blacklisted.

Everyone:

He didn't die, yeah, he's been banned.

Eldar:

He's been blacklisted.

Everyone:

He's sitting on. Yeah, the brig.

DJ:

Yeah, but yo we made him walk the plank.

Everyone:

The craziest shit is that when he joined us, right.

Eldar:

We're like, holy fuck, what the fuck that Nate and this Harris. His name is Harris, right, they have so many similarities. They're like what the fuck you know? Completely two different people. But mannerisms, the way they talk, the way they understand, see the world and the way they have their outbursts it's the fucking identical.

Zeek:

Oh, fuck you. You guys are raised by similar parents. All the wolves yeah, the wolves raise all people equal. You see this.

Everyone:

You want to hear about the parents. You're mildly bro. You want?

Eldar:

to hear about the parents.

Everyone:

Listen to the episode about parenting.

Eldar:

That's right. Learn a little bit about my parents, that's right. Going forward, zeke. We are his parents, as you can see.

Everyone:

This is Papa Elder and Papa Mike, as you probably witnessed.

Eldar:

Yes, Papa Elder and Papa Mike, that's right. Yes, and Papa totally was left and yeah, if you don't know, but now you know we're actually grooming.

Mike:

Oh you're about to find out. No, what you don't want me to tell him.

Eldar:

Go ahead, we're grooming him to be the next president of the United States of America 25 years we put on. However we put on, it's going to take some time to develop a person. So we're giving him 25 years to ripen up and then, when he's 50 years old, we're going to have him be the president of the United.

Everyone:

States and I'm never leaving the White House.

Zeek:

You just like luck yourself in, but board yourself in.

Eldar:

No, no no, no, nobody's going to want me to leave. The boarding would be done by the people because they're going to fall in love with them so much that they're not going to let them out, and then it's going to be passed down to family and family kind of like the king no, you need Fuck you.

DJ:

But, we're starting a new political party.

Everyone:

I don't want to live till 200, bro.

Everyone:

Why not? Because then you watch everyone die. What do you mean?

Eldar:

Oh no, We'll extend the ones that you want them to extend.

Zeek:

Okay cool. What do we do? We like hook him up to a bunch of machinery so he just you like walk into a room.

Everyone:

No, I'm going to be like the guy Walt Disney I'm going White House.

Zeek:

Do you guys believe that I actually froze him and that he's still alive? That's a myth. I don't know Nothing about that. I mean yeah.

Eldar:

So yeah. So what we're saying is that Harris is actually the next president of the United States, but it's going to take some time.

Everyone:

We're going to start with mayor.

Eldar:

Calm down. Let me just introduce you, okay, because I know how to do it in such a way you start with Jersey.

Zeek:

First you become Like, you become the mayor of Jersey, correct?

Eldar:

Mayor of the town. Governor, right, it's mayor of the town where he's from Then the governor of the state.

Everyone:

It might be easier to get in Congress Then get into Congress. No, it might be easier to get in Congress first.

Eldar:

That's what I said. You said, governor, doesn't matter, whatever Congress, the house, whatever, get those seats and then walk his way up to presidency.

Zeek:

I think we should have an attempted assassination on you by a kid with a potato gun when you're in the governor position. It'll show that people are threatened by your energy. And so, from there on, it's like we're creating a new political party.

Everyone:

What's it?

Everyone:

called Right now we have the Republicans, the Democrats the.

Mike:

Green Party Libertarian and then you got.

Everyone:

Independent. We're creating the party of Elderism.

Eldar:

He's now going to define it. Sure, you can define it now.

Everyone:

Elderism was created because Anatoly who's not here, we talked about it His parents, or just his mother?

Eldar:

I thought it was his rival. But what? I thought it was Anatoly's rival.

Everyone:

but what are you talking about, bro? You said Anatoly's parents thought the same thing.

Eldar:

Before you become president, me and you have to have these stories the same way and straight. All right, whatever, so we don't confuse the individuals.

Everyone:

Anyway, my mom said he felt Eldar was running a cult-like environment. Oh shit, she was saying how I was starting to change and all this different shit. So Eldar created a term called no, no, no, no, no.

Eldar:

I didn't create the term Tully's. No, who, tully's rival? You can't say rival, bro. You know who the rival is, who?

Everyone:

Oh Dennis, do you know who the rival is? Who? Oh Dennis, fuck you. Dennis Backstab his own bitch. Hey, what are you saying like that? I'm just saying All right cool.

Eldar:

He's still rough around the edges. As you can see, we're going to take some time to polish him.

Zeek:

It's a progress.

Eldar:

It is a progress.

DJ:

Rome wasn't built in a day.

Everyone:

Dennis, who is a former ally, friend, whatever.

Eldar:

Afghanistan, yeah, bro.

Everyone:

Paki, yeah, pali Pali, former Pali, created a term called elderism Because Eldar, he said, would manipulate and fucking put shit in your head and different shit. So elderism was created. So you better be careful.

DJ:

The energy of this whole podcast is spreading elderism.

Zeek:

The next time I come on. He better not have Kool-Aid, otherwise I'll be asked for questions.

Everyone:

You heard of the don't drink the.

Zeek:

Kool-Aid. You know where it's from right. Yeah, I know it't drink the Kool-Aid. Don't drink the Kool-Aid. You know where it's from right? Yeah, I know it's from the Kool-Aid.

Everyone:

He killed over 900 people, made them drink the Kool-Aid. He ran away from America. Yeah, went to Africa. Always flee to Africa eh.

Zeek:

It's just easier to get away with there's no law, really law there.

Everyone:

No one enfor of the world there. I don't want to force this shit.

Zeek:

You think that's where you think Hitler was still alive. You know how? There's a whole rumor, how he escaped. Like Adolf Hitler, and the rumor was, you know, he escaped to Africa and then they set up like a. I hope he escaped.

Everyone:

I hope he burned.

Zeek:

Me too.

DJ:

I don't know anything about that.

Everyone:

One thing I'll hear is we are all Jews. What, yeah, you're a Jew Really, I'm Greek, but You're Greek, yeah, really. Oh shit, no shit Greece is dope, yes.

Mike:

You were born there.

Zeek:

Born in Australia, australia yeah, how are you Greek? Disappointingly, but mom and dad side. And then I was raised by Yaya and Papu, which is grandma and grandpa being raised by them. It was like I was brought up in this Greek environment. Yaya's after school She'd hook up the slice, the slovlaki. It was more like this pizza, she'd make pizza. Oh really, yeah, for real, we're not like diehard.

Everyone:

That's the thing about Jews. You got different sets. You got the Orthodox. You got the Orthodox. What are the ones that I've seen them? There is Orthodoxy.

Zeek:

We are what you consider casual.

Everyone:

Casual, you only celebrate on a holiday or when someone's getting married or when they're giving out money. Major events the holidays, major key. Or when someone's getting married or when they're giving out money yeah, bar mitzvahs, major events, money included the holidays yeah, major key, the bar mitzvah turn 13, you become a man but I'm not sure, like uh, if we identify as jewish well, I don't really think we can call ourselves jewish, because I mean, what does it mean? We don't really celebrate.

Zeek:

What's the defining factor?

Mike:

Like, yeah, like what is that?

Zeek:

I mean in the.

Everyone:

Jewish religion. If the chopper's clipped In the Jewish religion is, if your mother's Jewish, guess what You're.

Zeek:

Jewish Right, but if dad's not, then you're still Jewish. Oh, you're still.

Everyone:

Whatever your mother is, you are Right, right, okay In other religions, whatever your father is.

Zeek:

I guess spiritually I agree with that. Well, we got a celebrity, oh we have a celebrity. That's my boy, dj.

Everyone:

Ain't this a fucking surprise man DJ. Ain't this a fucking surprise. What's going on?

Eldar:

He was here for the barbecue. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fireworks, that's real.

DJ:

That's fireworks man.

Everyone:

It's hard to find good fireworks man, but we're going to take a trip to Philly, or I am. That's what I'm just going to do yeah, true.

DJ:

You guys have crazy fireworks here I know that Phil as firework, which are ones that don't go too up Too much up, unless you're like licensed.

Everyone:

What's happening?

DJ:

So you gotta go All the way to Pennsylvania. To pick up some fireworks, the real boom sticks, you know. Wait, hold on. I'm double headphoned right now, weird.

Mike:

I never seen you With braids like that, yo With those cornrows, yeah, it's my first time Rocking cornrows.

DJ:

Yeah, sure Sick, yeah, you had the other ones, the cheese doodles. Yo yeah, the twist.

Everyone:

We watched a video, the other day with you in it, man YP days. Oh, okay. What was the video on Remember Josh Jaffe?

Mike:

Josh. No chance he remembers that Yo come on. No chance he remembers that kid that kid I brought to YP.

Everyone:

You put on a song. He was rapping and you scared the shit out of them.

DJ:

bro, DJ did too many drugs, man.

Everyone:

Yeah, my memory's shot guys. You scared the shit out of them, bro, really. Yeah, I saw them.

DJ:

What's going on? Man Cheers Salute.

Everyone:

Hey, salute man.

DJ:

Ah yeah, I'm too late, man we're doing it telegenetically A song came on.

Everyone:

You were getting hyped up, you kind of jumped the shit out of him, bro Zeke that's my boy, dj, dj.

Eldar:

What DJ? We've known each other for many, many years. He likes to skate, he likes the culture, respect. You know what I'm saying and I think that he'd appreciate some of the shit that you'd be saying and what you're about and your fashion, dj. That's my boy, zeke. Now I don't know if you remember, best friend, that we grew up in Brooklyn.

Everyone:

He then moved to Australia, right.

Eldar:

This is his boy from Australia, okay, word.

DJ:

You know what I'm saying? He hit me up. Yeah, he's got an Aussie.

Eldar:

So if you don't understand his accent, just holler at us.

DJ:

It's not crazy, though it's not crazy.

Zeek:

I got a mellow Australian accent Easy, yeah, yeah.

DJ:

Now I'm hearing it because I'm like so yeah, so he's from.

Eldar:

Australia man and it's pretty cool. He's doing his rounds, he's you know, he's meeting people, he's networking and stuff. I guess he's doing research right now to see how the market is and stuff like that.

DJ:

For a street brand.

Zeek:

Yeah, yeah, this is what I make Skazoodle, skazoodle, skazoodle, yeah, okay, yeah, so it my taste of fashion through, like what I can create with with um, with garments, you know, with t-shirts, beanies, yeah, just heaps of stuff. We're kind of getting into like a bunch of things right now. Like it's sort of it's really was inspired by, like when I started working with, you know, artists to like make merch for them, and then you know, like it's like it's this interconnected sort of matrix where, like I'll do something for an artist and like push the boundary, and then it inspires what I might produce for the brand you know.

DJ:

It's like yeah, you get some more ideas.

Eldar:

Can you expand on that? Like, what are you talking about this, interconnecting this stuff, about interacting with the artists and stuff? Like what, how'd you get inspired into that? Like, I guess, like.

Zeek:

I've always I've always been a creator. I've always made stuff, Whether it's been like when I first got a phone, the first thing I did was shoot this Lego stop motion videos. As soon as I've been able to create something, I did some of those too.

Eldar:

Yeah right.

Everyone:

Shout out to Lego.

Eldar:

I kept moving them.

Zeek:

Yeah, yeah, the Noah's Ark.

Everyone:

I did the Noah's ark recreation with the lego figures and shit.

Zeek:

Yeah, and so like. Uh, ever since the the days when I was like I think there's this old, old photo when I'm like four years old, in gumboots and I'm like completely naked, drawing on a chalkboard, oh wow, I hold myself to that photo at all times. That's like that was yeah, that's when he was born. That's the yeah, the artist that's sick, zeke picasso. Yes, but yeah, the artist that's sick, zeke Picasso. Yes, but yeah, like and so like.

Zeek:

I've always just created and and then for a while, you know like, it was a while where I was working, you know, heaps of jobs, just hella, jobs. I was saving all this money. I didn't know what I was going to use it for, and then it kind of it sort of, I guess a building where back home in I'm from an even smaller town in Australia called um Queanbeyan, which is in um New South Wales, so like Canberra, is like ACT and it's its own little like, like you know, state, because I want it to be unique. It's the Australian capital territory. New South Wales makes up the rest of the coast of Australia and anyway, we're going in depth here, but I got to give you some of this background history for it to all kind of unify.

Zeek:

And then, yeah, so I started doing my own thing in Queanbeyan. I just started doing freelance work, like lots of murals and things like that, like just connecting with the community there, the little community there that's interested in street art and that and was super invested in Banksy's take on art. You know, like that being just aggressive, it's like you don't want to look at it with like too bad, it exists now and that's kind of, I think, a big premise of like a lot of how I make music, how I make clothes. It's like, you know, it just presents itself in a way that contrasts against like the world that we have, and I think which is what makes it fun.

Eldar:

I like that. Yeah, the contrast description is sick.

Zeek:

But then I guess to go more in depth with the matrix concept. It's that what I started realizing that by doing so many different creative things, I started seeing like creativity as more just a process of like how you can express yourself through adding layers into whatever it is you're working on. Because, like that's all art really is. You know, like you start with the base. It's like if it's an 808 or something it's like, and then you might add like a snare or something, and then it builds and everything builds onto it. It's like you might add too many layers If it's a canvas and then you lose.

Zeek:

If it's a canvas, it's kind of hard. You might lose the bit of the image. It's hard to take back things you can't control Z. But by adding and knowing when to add and subtract layers, it really just like it took away a lot of like the categories of art that I had in my mind. You know, like this is graphic design, this is pencil art, this is this style of art, and it just made me realize that like, well, if I'm listening to music, like that's actually flowing in while I'm making something, while I'm painting on the canvas, you know, like if you're listening to, like if you're listening to, like if you're in a dark environment and you're listening to like death metal, like you're not really going to be drawing, like the prettiest sunflower, like that you could draw. It's just yeah, it's going to be a little bit more.

Eldar:

Dj, I'm glad you fucking came, because you can fucking translate this shit that he's saying right now to us. Maybe one day, you know, oh yeah yeah, because you into the shit you know yeah. That's cool.

DJ:

What you're saying makes a lot of sense. It's all about layering. Yeah, you do music, dj, yeah, yeah, yeah, I do, and coding too, it's not coding. Oh yeah, that's like an art form. I feel crunching and just annoying, but I actually I love to do it. Yeah, it's more, it's yeah it's creative.

Eldar:

It's definitely more creative. Yeah, yeah, he's definitely more music inclined, so if, when you referencing music, that's our guy for it oh yeah, I just started doing, uh, some engineering at finnegan's uh-huh hoboken that bar. Okay, they have bands come through, so like I just got that job you have not invited us yet, so don't just want to let that know yeah, well, we're making sure everything's good.

DJ:

All right, cool, I just got it make sure?

Eldar:

yeah, good, good, all right. Well, congrats and good luck coming soon. Yes, the engineering is cool.

Zeek:

Uh, it's. It's more like the old alternative rap. I brought a usb actually, if it does hook up later on um but yeah, it's kind of like lyrical.

Zeek:

It's very fun. It's still finding like the exact groove that it's sitting in. So the demo tapes that I've been like running around Sydney are just like full of everything that I'm presenting because I'm just going to drop an album when I get back. You know, there's this whole like debate of like as a musician, like I just do singles and then work to build towards an album. But I'm like you know what, like music's not my main thing. Like I can just have fun with it and do what I want. There's no pressure. Like I felt pressure for so long to be like oh, like damn, what are people going to think if I drop an album? Or like what are people going to think if I don't build EPs but I'm like shit, why am I even stressing about that? There's there's a lot that we stress about. That's like how much of it is. Is just us like overthinking the two steps ahead when it's like let's just take a couple steps back?

DJ:

90% of the time it's just overthinking. That's a very good question yeah very good question.

Eldar:

Damn, yo Zeke came with some substance, yo you know what I'm saying. We got the substance I like it, I like it, but let me play a couple of things off of his Instagram. Maybe that's the sound that you were talking about.

Everyone:

You get an idea.

Eldar:

You're cut off, bro. You can't fucking talk, man, what the hell.

Mike:

We've been drinking, bro, we've been drinking and.

Zeek:

I mixed it with an edible. He was signing something up. No, no, no.

Everyone:

I've been drinking, but I also mix it up with the edible, so you're cut off, so everything you say is nullified.

Everyone:

I'm just saying it.

Eldar:

Just make sure you cut everything off.

Everyone:

He's saying right from going forward. Fuck you. So, Zeke, you're going to be the next famous brand.

Everyone:

You're not famous.

Everyone:

You're not famous Famous and famous, famous is a skateboard brand. Dj knows what Famous is. Dj's also a skater so Famous.

DJ:

Yeah, yeah, it's like, oh yeah, it was a streetwear brand though what's his name?

Everyone:

Bam Margera no.

Mike:

Oh my.

Everyone:

God, the drummer for Blink-21.

Eldar:

Blink-21,.

Mike:

Travis Barker. Bob Barker, I didn't know that, bob Barker.

DJ:

Oh, okay, no, I know.

Zeek:

I mean, I've seen their imagery before, Not like super acquainted, we don't have much famous in Australia.

DJ:

Famous is big here, dude, it was. He sold that shit the hundreds In the 2000s. I felt like it was huge.

Zeek:

You guys have the hundreds here. Yeah, the hundreds was dope for a little bit billabong. Yeah, yeah, some of these brands that like, uh, become more of like a studio I think I was having this thought today and I'm like, I realize that, like this is is gonna is going to be iconic because of what else it employs, you know, but, um, anyway, following what you were saying as well, what were you meaning?

Everyone:

by that you were gonna be the next famous. Famous was really fucking big here. Wait, how do?

Eldar:

you know this? Do you have a PhD in predicting the future?

Zeek:

He's got the internet. He's from the future. What the fuck?

Eldar:

I wore it Everyone in school wore it you know what I'm saying, okay, fine.

Everyone:

How did?

DJ:

you just put that together.

Everyone:

It was famous back in the famous hats.

Eldar:

No, you didn't. That's fucking Mike Fake news.

Everyone:

What the fuck man it's real.

Eldar:

So, how did you do this Real quick? Just tell the audience, because they really Don't care about it.

Mike:

I think he's gonna so famous.

Everyone:

Wait, wait Was a big skater brand.

Eldar:

Fuck famous. Tell me how you connected Him to be the next famous.

Everyone:

Because it was a unique design. Fuck that, fuck that. You know why he's a little tipsy Fuck that.

DJ:

It had a niche community, no stop this nonsense.

Eldar:

That's an insult.

Zeek:

It has this very niche community.

Everyone:

Famous was popular among skaters. It was a very skater brand.

Eldar:

Zeke, before you take any of that in those compliments. Those are not compliments, those are insults.

Everyone:

They're not insults.

Eldar:

And I'm going to start translating what everything Harry's saying because, like I said, he's cut off.

DJ:

Oh, fuck you man.

Eldar:

Wait what.

DJ:

Look, look, he got him in a one shot.

Zeek:

Are you serious yeah?

Eldar:

the soundboard goes crazy. Listen, guys. All right, explain to me why. Why did you fucking make the connection?

Everyone:

It's a unique fucking brand. It has a big community, but it also has a specific community. Okay, what does that mean by specific? It was among skaters. Okay, been there, done that.

Eldar:

Okay, zeke just explained a very interesting thing. I might not remember because I'm a little bit drunk, but you definitely don't remember because you didn't even understand it you know what I'm saying mike's not drunk, so he's gonna be able to help me out.

Eldar:

I think, zeke, it's an insult when you compare him to this fucking famous shit, because I, if I'm gonna make a compliment, and that's a premature one, probably because I don't really. I think, zeke, it's an insult when you compare him to this fucking famous shit, because if I was going to make a compliment, then that's a premature one, probably because I don't really know Zeke, but based on what he, some of the things that he said, based on some of the things that I paid attention, if it's true that he's following that thing, he's going to be much bigger than famous.

Zeek:

I do see that. But in saying the famous, there is like a niche group that does like the brand, but it has a global influence.

Eldar:

What you were saying was an insult. No, no, no, before we continue. Number one you have to bring a fucking beer.

Everyone:

Just to redeem yourself.

Mike:

No, no, no One second First. I can give you a heads up here I'm going bringing you your first.

Everyone:

Yeah, I won't want to. No, no, no One second, one second.

Eldar:

You can go and get it First. You can. Only I can give you a heads up here. Okay, I'm going to give you an alley-oop. You can start with an apology to Zeke and then we can proceed.

Everyone:

I think Zeke appreciates what I was saying In school. He's cut off. Were you a jock?

Eldar:

What the hell Does he know what a jock is? Wait a second, that's an American thing, zeke. You know what a?

DJ:

jock is Yo y'all mind if I get some video on it, yeah yeah, Of course baby.

Everyone:

I bet.

Everyone:

Yo, I'm sorry, you got to sign a non-disclosure. Yeah, what's creating videos for social media of me, so you gotta sign a non-disclosure.

Everyone:

I gotta sign some contracts.

Everyone:

I had to sign a non-disclosure. Tommy had to sign a non-disclosure.

Zeek:

You just can't mention the big bed out back right. Look at that big XXXLodge bed.

Everyone:

Anyway, please, but let me Like I was saying right. When you were in school, were you part of what you would call the outcasts, the?

Zeek:

gang I was kind of like in this weird Like flow zone, you know, I was just kind of like cool with everyone.

Everyone:

You were cool, but you weren't jock cool, no, I was more nerdy.

Zeek:

Because, like all jocks secretly Like want to be the nerd and the nerd Wants to be the jock. Cool, no, no, it was more like nerdy side because, like all jocks secretly like want to be the nerd and the nerd wants to be the jock. There's this weird thing anyway but aside from that, like I think.

Eldar:

I think the heresy is a little bit of himself and are we gonna go into the fucking episode where you were bullied and shit? No, I don't want to hear that shit anyway. When they said you were fat, that means you were bullied and shit. I don't want to hear that shit anymore. When they said you were fat, that means you were fat.

Everyone:

That was middle school. Fuck you In high school, my friends were the cool other cool right. We were the outcasts. We liked skateboarding, we liked cat brew.

DJ:

I'm sorry that was an outburst.

Eldar:

You done. I told you I'm developing Tourette's so calm down.

Everyone:

We liked kind of the rock of 2000s. Name one band and your point being like we were part of, we weren't part of the cool we were part of the outsiders.

Zeek:

I always thought that school was very petty. Even from a young age I didn't quite get the whole.

Everyone:

You had the smart kids, you had the jocks. Yeah, we had others.

DJ:

He's cut off. Fuck that, fuck it.

Everyone:

You're going to keep it up man. How did you get?

Mike:

so drunk off of one shot.

Everyone:

I didn't take one shot.

Mike:

Can you get?

Eldar:

me a beer, please. You got drunk off of one beer. No, what the fuck, bro. I had a couple shots.

Everyone:

There's only one beer left, is there?

Zeek:

anyone you want to call out. During school that bullied you consistently for a while, yeah, in middle school I was fucking bullied, dude True.

Mike:

Now's the time, man Spit it.

Everyone:

I'm not fucking blasting his name, all right, because we became friends.

Zeek:

Nah, fuck him. Did you fight him and then you became friends. Yeah, that's crazy how that happens.

DJ:

Who else, who else you became friends with. I had a black eye, I had a black eye Wait, wait, wait wait, paul Wait did you give it to yourself.

Everyone:

Why are you?

DJ:

saying it like that man.

Everyone:

I had a black eye, black eye.

Mike:

Did you give it to?

Everyone:

yourself. We ended up getting into a fight on the bus, and he then offered me a cigarette.

Eldar:

Wait, in middle school you were smoking cigarettes. Did you suck on something?

Everyone:

No, he offered me a cigarette Right there on the bus we're like this is fucking ridiculous. You know, he offered me a cigarette and we became friends.

Zeek:

We became homies. It's the craziest thing. I don't know how to explain it, but I don't know how to explain it, but it happens all the time. You end up fighting someone and it's like you shared this experience. Ufc shit.

Eldar:

Let's get back to what's really important. Hopefully Harris will pay attention and actually listen to what you were saying.

Everyone:

I didn't mean it as an insult, that's all I'm saying. Good.

Eldar:

I hope you weren't, but he doesn't know any better. Throughout the next conversation.

Everyone:

Harris, what's going to happen is and this might- hurt your brain.

Eldar:

Zeke's going to try to explain to us the phenomenon that he's experiencing, that he thinks he should be the next guy, the next it, and why.

Everyone:

I'm going to try to ask very specific questions you don't need to explain this to me, and Mike's going to help me with that. You don't need to explain this to me, you can maybe help me with that.

Eldar:

You don't need to explain this to me. All right, cool sounds good. You can maybe help me, which I doubt because you like to call out now.

Mike:

Now it's probably a good time for you to step out for like half an hour. Yes, we're gonna.

Eldar:

You can sit in the bathroom if you'd like, because I know how much you like the bathroom? Dj, you don't come around enough.

Mike:

yeah, I don't know, you don't understand DJ Fuck you All right.

Eldar:

Fine, I got you Harris. Look, Zeke. We left off on the fact that you meeting these artists right, and you are maybe fascinated by them, or you admire them, or you want to collaborate with them, understand them right, so then you could do what.

Zeek:

I guess, like, what I noticed was that there's so much like potential for creative energy, it's like people don't quite know, like, how to get that out. Some people don't want to, but other people just miss that. The visual side, which is primarily where I like try and specialize in, it's like, okay, let's take this concept, like, let's build the layers into it. Now, you know, because, like, your communication through visual layers is maybe not as developed as what mine is. So we got to take your words and take your emotion of what you want to create and let's make something, whatever that might be, and if it needs to be, maybe not me, making it like, for instance, like Ilya, what do you think of this? And then, because more than one mind makes greatness, you know, like, 100%.

Eldar:

I think it's a very difficult task to take an idea and turn it into a physical form, right, and I think that this is what you're trying to bridge, right? I think is what I'm trying to understand. You're trying to bridge the gap between metaphysical and the physical Right, and maybe that process can be called art. Or what is that called Magic? Okay, interesting Magic maker Magic. Why?

Zeek:

Because magic, by definition of when you see that the dude pull a rabbit out of a hat, is like the ultimate form of art Because, like both, so any art takes practice, right, it takes practice to become, takes practice become to become a magician. Okay, and I think that magic and the magic that a magician does is the purest form of art because it also connects us straight to, like the child again, it's like you see that rabbit come out of the hat. You, you know that it like it's magic as well, but it's also like you can't help yourself, like be filled with feeling.

Eldar:

That is very interesting because, we always had a hard time with the word art, and maybe you can bridge the gap finally, for us at least, because we're more ignorant on it. So, based on what I heard, you're saying that the magician almost brings you back to a childhood. Is that an intrinsic value that art needs to carry, or is there anything else that needs to be in order for it to be called art?

Zeek:

Right, right, I guess to define it by that much, I would say it's linked to that feeling of emotion that is intrinsic.

Eldar:

What if it's not there? We can't call it art.

Zeek:

That's the but. What's like an example that you'd.

Eldar:

Well, some of the stuff that you're mentioning, for example, right, like transforming things, and it's like wow, it went from here to here. Or like, wow, that's magic, and I see how that can be. But some people look at the painting or look at some kind of thing and they're like whatever. Yeah, I mean is it? Subjective, then, at the end of the day, or is it an objective phenomena that we can say that everybody can experience, and then we can call this art collectively, versus art always being the kind of like the subjective.

Zeek:

Like what's, what's? Yeah, the subjective like it's my definition.

Zeek:

Yeah, I mean, everybody's experienced art. I feel like I'm going to say that because when you were a kid, at some point you made something and that's the purest level, you know. That's like that inner child, because in order to create, you have to emerge from that inner child, you have to express from that. You know, it's like if you were scarred as a child. A lot of people make, like you know, you see a lot of crazy messed up art like grotesque figures. They were really abused as a kid. They have a part of them. That's like that's tethered to that trauma, you know, and so it draws on that, for better or for worse. And then I think that all art is really that expression of the inner child, you know.

Mike:

That's just like it's really within you, but that like what you're saying, at least the way I'm interpreting it, the way you and others are saying it. There's something extremely important, special about that childlike feeling and I think we should definitely like explore that deeper. Because I have an understanding of what that is and I'm curious to hear what you guys think about that.

Eldar:

Yeah, this is going to a very interesting place and I think the question that Zeke posed and I'm going to read it out loud because I think it's a profound question, harris this is when you can put some cotton in your ears.

Everyone:

Well, I wanted to say something. Harris, take a nap wait, wait, wait.

Eldar:

I have to see what the cue is. Oh Harris, actually you're next go ahead. Anybody want anything? I'm going to go get it.

Mike:

Yes, beer, what the Q is? Okay, hold on one second. Oh, harry, actually you're next Go ahead. Anybody want anything? I'm going to go get it, yes beer, please Beer, thank you.

Eldar:

Let me ask you a question right.

Everyone:

I saw a piece of art that I guess you could say that went for a couple million Was it, the big black rubber looking thing.

Eldar:

Fuck you. No, that's what I showed you A couple million.

Everyone:

It was a banana with fucking duct tape on it.

Zeek:

Oh my God, it's a controversial point here Is that, considered art. I mean, it's definitely magic, wouldn't you say? It's like magic in the way that you'd look at it and be like how is that art?

Everyone:

Yeah, it's dumb. No, no, no, no, no, she's explaining to you, you're not listening.

Zeek:

That's like some of the magic of it. That's what it taps into. You know, like it's just Wait, wait, wait.

Eldar:

Wait now, zeke. My question is was it intended to explain it the way you?

Zeek:

just explained it. Ooh, you'd have to ask the artist.

Eldar:

No, because you interpreted it and I like it yeah.

Zeek:

I, I guess there is a definition.

Eldar:

Like the artist who created that has a definition being the point of like look at nothing.

Zeek:

Should an artist always have a definition? Zeke? I think an artist has a reason, but just because you have a reason to do something, you might not always have a definition for it. Should you, though, as a good artist, as a good artist? As a good artist, yes, you should, because if you, if you want to be able to recreate something that you've done, then a definition is required. Oh, you know, because it's like, well, if the best art so to kind of step something else into the layers, um, it's like a great artist will be able to replicate what they do, and so that's why they take notes.

DJ:

What about the artists who just like free flow? There is just free flow artists. You know what I mean? What do you mean?

Eldar:

I mean they definitely they don't qualify for the shit that we try to say, man.

Zeek:

Like jazz sort of side of things.

Mike:

Do you think that true art?

Eldar:

because they'll use like a term art, true art, let's say true art, because all they use like a term art, true art, let's say right, use that term, so only true art try to pin something on me that I don't remember saying fine, fine or true art, true art.

Mike:

Yeah, do you think that true art is like something that's open to interpretation, or you kind of just know what it. You know what it is, that it is true art.

Zeek:

I guess there's more. There's more stable categories of the art world. You know you have fine art, contemporary art that then fit into these like defined categories, like expressionism, and then there's so many different categories I'm not like knowledgeable.

Mike:

But you're saying, like art, like you said, it gives you this childhood-like feeling, right, you cannot interpret to receive that feeling right, it's like not part of a it, it's not like a thinking process of trying to figure out how to, how to feel. It's something that occurs, like more naturally and the person who creates it and potentially the person who is also on the receiving end, it's like, I think, a lot of it right. Like, for example, I think comedy is a very good um example of it. Art because, like, if you look at art right, and I think especially the art where it's um on controversial topics, I think that's also very funny, but it you're fucking canceled. It like there's so many borders right that exist, but you can cross those lines in the comedy, right, and it makes people forget about all these like differences or things, and it's able to them for to laugh like a child. So that's why I was asking that question.

Zeek:

Yeah, I guess you go on a with comedy because it's something that's specific, like I've been interested in for a long time as well and like I've, you know, always listened to comedy and sort of studied it. It's that journey, which is when you're looking at great art as well. You know it takes you on a journey. It does. Yeah, you know it's like we went to the MoMA gallery.

DJ:

Feelings and thoughts. Yeah, feelings and thoughts, pretty much true art would be. If anything, if a piece of art can I feel like get most to have like a prolonged feeling or thought about whatever while they're observing whatever art it is, I think that would be true art, you see this.

Eldar:

He just threw in another variable. It's like that's the one that you just said. I don't feel that, nor do I relate with that. That's a subjective experience that he's having. I like the one that you define for me, because if the art has the ability to take me almost a childhood-like experience when I'm like, oh shit, what the fuck magic you know what I mean like to me, I resonate with that a little bit more. But what he said I agree with too. But I don't necessarily feel that you don't.

Mike:

You don't have a personal experience with that. I don't have that Well, I think.

DJ:

Oh, I was making more of a sense of like I thought you guys were talking about what would kind of not be considered.

Mike:

Well, I think, yeah, a lot of things get labeled art Just bullshitting art.

Eldar:

No, but I think no, no, no, no, no. But you see, the thing is, you know what? You can't? Bullshit art. You just can't, Because anybody subjectively can define that in such a way where it works for them, Like, for example, he said yo my man, he taped a banana to the wall. What the fuck?

Zeek:

That's his experience right.

DJ:

Exactly yeah.

Eldar:

Zika's like yo, my man, that artist wanted that experience from you. Therefore it's art, wait, wait. Yo, my man, that artist wanted that experience from you. Therefore it's art. Wait, wait what? That's what that was? That's crazy, I guess, because then the artist has complete control over him, knowing that he's going to have this reaction. To me, it's a crazy phenomenon.

Zeek:

And see that can be an expression of what we might actually have just discovered is part of that artist's psychology. Yes, there's an element of control where maybe the artist feels they don't have or that they have over the art world, and it's like the ability to just tape a banana to a wall and have people look at it while it slowly rots is like this crazy power play.

Eldar:

What the fuck. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm going to call that artist as a fucking, like a bad artist to me because if the intention is to do that out of something like that, it's almost to insult the artist or the perceiver.

Zeek:

But what you said is relevant, dj as well, where it's like the experience reminds you, like when you're viewing something, or like a musical piece as well, like there's lots of songs that, like I, can relate to right and they throw you back to a time where, like you remember the music and the sound from like back in an era like that you used to listen to it as a kid and so it always is like tethered to that part of you, that emotional part of you, like yeah.

Eldar:

No, 100%. That is 100% valid for certain individuals that are looking for that specific thing. You might not have like an attachment to them in that way so then, what the fuck are we talking about? Z?

Zeek:

I guess it's almost, then, a matter of like it's a subjective thing what did you as a child, when you were younger? What did you attach yourself to? Because if it was like bright, contrasted colors, then maybe that's what you want to surround yourself in the world, because it makes you feel comfortable.

Eldar:

You know, it's like yeah, if it's neutral, you want to be a little kind of like you know, in the shadows, then that's who you are. Right, you're more like Batman. There you go. The the city needs a hero, yes, and that's not you.

Mike:

Go ahead, you can go ahead, I'm going to stay, I'm going to stay. Oh shit, I'm going to stay.

Everyone:

You look like a penguin Wait a second.

Zeek:

Oh wait, no, the new Penguin series.

DJ:

he looks like a gangster. Yeah, I heard his voice. I haven't watched it. What is he talking about, don?

Everyone:

I guess why I compared your brand to famous.

Eldar:

Oh, here we fucking go again. Yo, Yo, I'm going to Listen, listen.

Zeek:

You better fucking think before you speak because I'm going to click the button To really think about it.

Eldar:

I'm going to click the button.

Zeek:

Fuck you, he's got something good. He's got something good To really think about it your design brings me back to oh, what the fuck.

Everyone:

My high school days, when you really think about it.

Zeek:

Matt no no, no, it's sort of relevant.

Everyone:

This is what you're trying to do, his design. He's showing the real example of what we're talking about. His design right there brings me back to the skater looks and different shit I used to wear back in the day.

Mike:

What he's saying is JNCO, no, not that it's not about that, jnco.

Everyone:

I no, not that it's not about that I don't think so.

Mike:

I think the subjectivity of it is You're probably not going to understand this, but I'll say it anyway it makes him go back to a time when life was quote-unquote good. Remember, it's good memories.

Eldar:

Is that what it is?

Mike:

Before life got hard.

Zeek:

See before things got hard.

Eldar:

See, the difference is. What I'm going to out is right now is who's the actual artist. Is it Harris perceiving it this way, or is it him making it this way? It could be.

Zeek:

What are you doing?

Eldar:

I mean it depends. You're fucking my boy up, bro. You're fucking reminding him of the fucking use bro psychologically when I used to skate.

Everyone:

Oh, what the fuck. He never skated. You never skated in his life.

Eldar:

He was always around DJ do you have your fucking skateboard in the car?

Mike:

Yeah.

Eldar:

I'm always about to do a kickflip. You're not going to be able to do anything on that thing.

Everyone:

You're not going to be able to stand on it.

Everyone:

I haven't done it in like 10, 12 years.

Everyone:

Exactly what?

Eldar:

kind of skater are you?

Zeek:

What was the best trick that you had? Come on, stop it.

Mike:

Standing on the board, having the ability to stand on it, which is art, Yo, the type of body you got.

DJ:

you know what I'm saying I don't remember you having but you do have a bad memory.

Mike:

I do have a bad memory, I educated.

Everyone:

What's his name? That?

DJ:

fucking came to YP one day. That guy that used to cross-dress.

Eldar:

Fuck you.

Everyone:

Oh, greg, greg no fuck you.

Mike:

Spanish Greg. Spanish Greg.

Everyone:

No.

Eldar:

What Remember the boxer? No Spanish Greg used to be a G bro.

Everyone:

No, whoa, whoa, whoa, greg, that served like several years in prison.

Eldar:

This is an example, zeke of Harris saying absolutely nothing.

Everyone:

Fuck you, I couldn't do a lot of tricks, but I love to.

Eldar:

Look at all the skaters.

Mike:

What he's saying is. Contact Paul Trenacosta Fuck that what he's actually talking about. It's actually fake news.

Everyone:

From when we were kids.

Eldar:

We all had our own little skate career. As soon as you come out, make a left.

DJ:

I don't doubt you, man.

Mike:

I'm just saying I don't know how we got here. Harris, I'm going to speak as your attorney. Shut up, Shut up.

Everyone:

Shut up, you're fired.

Everyone:

You're fired for right now.

Eldar:

Okay, I like that. That was good.

Everyone:

Alright, so I'm Parmalee. We had our own little skate crew. I Alright, so I'm Parmalee. We had our own little skate crew.

Mike:

I'm going to start naming names.

Eldar:

You cannot mention invisible characters.

Mike:

What do they call them Invisible friends? He's naming real people.

Everyone:

Paul Trenacosta, Nick Trenacosta, Lane White, Max White.

DJ:

Lane with the Wait TJ. These are real people. I'm going to yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Lane with the.

Mike:

I'm going to tell you Wait, TJ, these are real people. Yeah, these are real people. I'm going to tell you what's happening, guys. I'm going to tell you exactly what's happening.

DJ:

These people are still shredding.

Mike:

What I said five minutes ago about him reflecting and perceiving that's the best time of his life, okay, is also imaginary oh my god, I just fucking realized it.

Eldar:

I'm gonna explain to you why the thing is. I'm gonna explain to you why he never experienced it, I did experience it, it's very deep okay and it's gonna tie back to something very, very important.

Mike:

Uh, oh, a lot of people. They don't know how to fit into life. Oh my god. They don't know who they are and they recognize those moments as the best part of their lives because they were accepted. Fuck you.

Eldar:

They were living it through someone else's. I was skating bro?

Everyone:

No, you didn't. He never got on a skateboard before he felt good, because he was with a certain group of people.

Mike:

Yeah, he was fitting in because he was never accepted, and those moments he remembers is when he was actually accepted. Maybe it was the case that he was, maybe it wasn't. Yeah, so he made up this narrative for himself. Wow, to kind of get away from the reality of, like, his childhood, which was rough. What are you talking?

DJ:

about.

Everyone:

I can name several, several fucking escape brands. Listen, Tony.

Eldar:

Hawk is not a real friend. New York Birdhouse.

Everyone:

This is not a friend. Tony Hawk is not a real friend.

Everyone:

Zoo, york Birdhouse.

Eldar:

This is not a friend. Tony Hawk and Bam Argyr are not your friends. Fuck you, you've never met them.

Everyone:

Zoo York, birdhouse, alien Workshop yeah, if you can't ride down this hallway in a skateboard right now you can't talk about skating.

DJ:

Yeah, I can ride down the hallway. All right, look at this. That's what we're going to do, all right, guys, guys, guys.

Eldar:

Before we continue, let me bring Zeke in real quick on what's going on here, you know what I mean Before he labels us like yo, these are bullies. You know what I mean. Like these guys are just bullying on Harris and stuff like that. Nah.

Zeek:

This is the Bully Harris show, yeah.

Eldar:

Yeah, bully Harris show. Exactly, Harris came to us with a baggage. Okay, it's a big bag of goods.

DJ:

It's a big black garbage bag.

Eldar:

There's a lot of things in it. There's all sorts of things. There's good things, there's bad things. Right, and if you feel the vibe of maybe like maybe pushing him and pushing his buttons and stuff, is because of the fact that we're trying to challenge him to number one, rid some of the arrogance that he has in him. Right, you don't know, but because you know he's obviously not supposed to know, because he's presented the best image he could right now for you, because you're a guest.

Eldar:

It's beautiful yeah, it's beautiful, right, but nonetheless, there's another image right and that's the one we're working off of, right?

Zeek:

that's our type of art, but that's the one that you know correct, the real Harris, that's right, I'm trying to say the real Harris and the Harris, the real Will Harris.

Eldar:

I'm going to tell you right now it's dope, dope as fuck. Yeah, but for a very long time that Harris has been hiding Correct, he's been in the movie In the ducts. Yes, that he's created for himself and for others into the world, and unfortunately that magic trick doesn't work anymore. You know, I've grown up. I've grown up. I no longer think that you are ripping your thumb off when you're showing me this.

Mike:

Mike, can you do it for me? I don't know how to do it, bro. You know what I'm talking about. I know, of course, when you hide it and you do it like this, yeah, the thumb.

Eldar:

Everybody knows this trick right yeah alright cool, and this is not me showing that I'm sticking a thumb up someone's ass, harris, that's. So. What I'm saying is that we see past what Harris has been creating for a very long time for himself and we call it kind of the mask or the act Right. The reason why he's been doing this for a very long time is because he's been through some pain, and DJ knows this. Everybody knows who went through some pain. We create a certain level of protection, right, and this protection, this macho man, know-it-all person who peddles shock value you know what I mean has been trying to do this on us and unfortunately, the individuals that have the ability to pay attention, zeke, and you understand the importance of that.

Eldar:

they see right through it, and when you see right, through it.

Everyone:

The gig is up, get the skateboard right now, man. The gig is up, get the skateboard.

Eldar:

Don't let me tell Zeke all the bets you've lost. I've lost a lot of bets.

Everyone:

Okay, there's a reason for that. I'm in debt right now to these guys, man.

Eldar:

You know what I'm saying there. You know what I'm saying. There's a reason for that Because Kyrus has the ability to talk out of his ass for a very long time and then, finally, he hit a wall with us. We're like okay, put your money where your mouth is, make a bet.

Everyone:

We don't believe what you're saying.

Eldar:

We don't believe what you're saying we don't believe what you're saying. We don't believe what you're saying. And after a while, I was like. Later, maybe we're going to see this little trick that he's talking about him being able to ride a straight line down the hall with us, because a regular skateboarder who's decently knows what he's doing, he'd be able to ride straight down this hall, right? I?

DJ:

mean he's able to ride.

Everyone:

But thank you OK, so we're going to make a very Listen, we're not asking for no fucking pop, shove it and fucking like kick flips and shit like that I think Harris skated.

Eldar:

I think Harris skated. I can't wait to see it. I think he did, I'm glad you have a fucking skateboard in your fucking back.

Everyone:

I want to get it on with. Let's do it. No, no, we're going to do it at the end. Let's pause it.

Eldar:

I don't want you to break your arm and not being able to continue with this podcast. Bro, I can fucking do it. Dark that we're doing right now and some of that shit that you see that we're bullying him. Quote, unquote Harris is the man. Yes, he is the man, indeed. And, dj, you missed this fucking speech, but I'm letting you know now, and you're one of the first few that will know this, and I think that this is in the future, might cost a fortune, like an NFT or something that you were like the third or the fourth person to find this out Harris will be running for president of the United States of America in the year of 2050. Okay, okay.

Everyone:

He doesn't believe it, man. Okay, why do you say it like that? Look at the smile on his face. Okay, where did this come from? Why are you?

Everyone:

critical of DJ like that DJ you know, I don't fuck around.

DJ:

Whose idea was it? Was it Harris or yours? No, I didn't like the way the country was running. That's right.

Everyone:

And then Eldar said become president. Because guess what? Neither one, none of these guys can become president.

Everyone:

We're all immigrants.

Everyone:

They weren't born yet.

Everyone:

We're all immigrants.

Everyone:

So to get Eldar's word across, I am the puppet that's the real that's, the real that's what.

Eldar:

I was talking about Wait, wait wait.

Everyone:

What.

DJ:

I think he was doing so well Yo.

Eldar:

What you guys Listen, what you guys just experienced, is Harris' superpower. He has the ability To make fun of himself and laugh at himself at the same time. Right, but make everybody else laugh, and I think that's a superpower.

Everyone:

No, I'm gonna spread the views. To make fun of himself and laugh at himself at the same time, right, but make everybody else laugh, and I think that's a superpower.

Everyone:

No, I'm going to spread the views.

Everyone:

I'm still learning, okay, because I agree with what some of the stuff is right now and I don't like the way this government we can all agree Did you vote this year? I did.

Eldar:

Oh yes, Please don't tell, fucking don't say a word.

DJ:

I'm not saying a word.

Eldar:

You have an idea who you voted for right? Oh yeah, for sure. Okay, if you get it right.

DJ:

I'll give you $100 right now.

Eldar:

Go. Please tell me you voted for Trump. Thank you, you lost $100.

Everyone:

I was, I'm not going to say it because, I was coerced into voting for the other one Because I was coerced into voting for the other one.

Everyone:

Coerced, coerced, holy shit, but you wanted to vote for Trump.

Mike:

Wait, you're saying that, but you wanted to vote for Trump.

Everyone:

Listen to the last episode of the podcast. Wait, you're saying you were coerced. I was going on.

Mike:

Coerced. You understand this, oh you go in All right. We got into a huge argument. You, I'm coming back in office.

Everyone:

My family was.

DJ:

But you ain't vote for him.

Everyone:

Yeah, I didn't need to vote for him.

Everyone:

You ain't vote.

Everyone:

I don't need to vote for him. You know why? Because this state was going to go to blue either way.

Eldar:

All right, Guys to bring it back to Zeke to explain what's going on here. As you can see, I'm reading.

Zeek:

I'm not even going to do that.

Everyone:

Our government has been fucked. Most of the people in politics are out for themselves. It's not for the fucking people.

Zeek:

I watched the debate between Trump and the other dude which one Biden.

DJ:

There was one a while ago.

Eldar:

But a lot of the people don't make it about politics. They're not about the people.

Everyone:

We're going to be about the people, but we need to open the people's eyes.

DJ:

You're going to need your own money to do that.

Eldar:

Let's not go into that right now. No, no, no.

Everyone:

There's a big situation, dj. We got to stop. I'm sponsored by Letterfront, that's right, who?

DJ:

Oh, okay, I love. That's what's up.

Eldar:

The beginning's small, obviously, but we have 25 years to make up the ground.

Everyone:

People are going to want to throw money at us, as Donald Trump says, because they're going to believe in our views.

DJ:

I mean all you need is a good TikTok video, I think. I think you can make it.

Everyone:

We already had some interest.

Eldar:

We already have people coming in scouting him.

Eldar:

Okay, so the truth of the matter is he's the shit Zeke. That's all we're saying, Despite the fact that we're bullying him. He's our prized possession, he's the diamond in the rough. It's going to take some time 25 years. All good things take time. Rome wasn't built in a day. We're building Harris to be able to be a good citizen, a good person with good values, in order to then spread those values and govern the individuals, the people that will understand who he is through the journey that we actually documented right now. This is the podcast that you're on. Harris is the Life of Harris. Yes, and I always like to make a reference if people don't understand. We've never witnessed evolution take place. Darwin said that monkeys became human. We never documented this experience, this phenomenon. Well, the attempt is to be able to finally document and show to the people that we can take an animal and turn them into a real human being. Why are you laughing?

Zeek:

Are human beings animals?

Eldar:

Yes, A real human, A real human right. We've never seen that before Are fully evolved, using more and the truth of the matter is, I think we can, because he has the potential, and the potential is crazy. He is funny, right. He's fucking courageous. He has thick skin. We could talk shit, a lot of shit. He takes it Right.

Everyone:

It took me a long time to get that way.

Eldar:

I'm fucking giving you props here. Now you're fucking interrupting me problem, but it took me some time to get there yeah, but that's besides the point that you can definitely explain that to the listeners that will listen, but the fact that he's he's dope, you know what I'm saying?

Everyone:

he's just overall dope so we're gonna start small dj, because you weren't you're gloating again man.

Eldar:

We're working on his pride and his ego.

Everyone:

I'm just saying we're gonna start small. You were explaining this to dj okay, before you went off topic. We already started right here. We're going to start small. Mayor of Fairlawn, then move up man.

Eldar:

We're not sure where we're moving up because we don't know how the system works yet, but we have 25 years to understand.

Everyone:

Either Congress or governor.

Eldar:

Yes, Very good. Right now he's cut off no more beers, no more drinks, right now.

Everyone:

This is the phase where I need to let everything out of my system.

Everyone:

Explain to everyone what that means I'm reckless when it comes to a lot of things. Yes, shout out to that man. These guys jumped on me because we had a whole podcast about it. We did. I'm reckless when it comes to sex. Oh shit, we're going to do that. All right, we're going to podcast about it. We did. I'm reckless when it comes to sex. Oh shit, we're going to do that. All right, we're going to talk about it. We're going to do that. Oh my God.

Zeek:

There's no, you're going to do that with Dad.

Eldar:

Wait what Whoa whoa, whoa, what we're not going to say that on air we're going to bring that shit back.

Everyone:

I've never worn protection a day in my life, oh, okay.

Zeek:

Why do you feel there's not a Like? Some people feel that's essential. Why do you think you don't care?

Eldar:

Because they're security. Don't be fucking, don't lie.

Everyone:

I remember when you answered to this question.

DJ:

It was in the moment.

Eldar:

No, he said word for word before. When I asked this question, he said I want to spread my seed out there.

Everyone:

Hey, bro, it was a joke man.

Eldar:

Okay, fine.

Everyone:

I was joking that I was building my own army. No, you know, a lot of times, sometimes, I was working in the army. Bro, did you say this?

DJ:

It was a joke, man.

Eldar:

Some girls came from Ireland and he had unprotected sex with them. What the fuck.

Zeek:

Damn. You have to be careful. Yes, you're wild.

Mike:

Wait, you squeezed one into her.

Eldar:

Of course he pumped her full of lead.

Mike:

Holy shit.

Everyone:

Bro, they're coming to New York. They're on the fucking pill. Bro, they're coming to the internet.

DJ:

I mean hey, man, if you got them for a one night stand, they probably are, you know what. That's not a bad logic on your end, that's crazy.

Everyone:

I paid like $300 in drinks. It's crazy but it's not wrong.

Eldar:

Oh no, that changes everything, guys. He paid $300 worth of drinks, so he's going to go wrong.

Everyone:

I had like five shots, five beers and it was just going bro.

Eldar:

Oh my God All right so as you can see, zeke we're trying to help you out.

Everyone:

You know, a lot of the women I had sex with supposedly said they're on the pill. But you know there's always the trap. And they also give you a compliment saying that you are a woman. I had a girlfriend that called me the bull from New Jersey.

Everyone:

Oh my god.

Zeek:

That's a big nickname right there.

DJ:

My boy Harrison.

Everyone:

Because you gotta understand. Can you show?

Zeek:

the move. Fuck you, you got a signature move no.

Eldar:

It's a dance. It's not a move bro, it's art bro, it's art but.

Everyone:

I had a girlfriend that she was like eight years older than me cougar 5 year old son oh shit, you know I'm a young guy so I can go for a very long time and when we were done with it she said Jesus Christ, you're like a bull. You just fucking keep on going, dude. Ten minutes later I was going for a second round.

Eldar:

How long did these rounds last?

DJ:

I mean 45. Good Seconds or 45 minutes.

Eldar:

We want to make sure they're clear.

Zeek:

And you went more than once, yeah, more than twice.

Everyone:

The second one was shorter're clear and you went more than once, yeah, more than twice. The second one was shorter, of course, of course, obviously Come on man.

Zeek:

I was about to say if it's longer, then this man really is superhuman.

Everyone:

He's good, he's good, but uh yeah, she would talk about damn you fucking my brains out and all this shit, and it's like yeah she was a regular listener to the spot.

Zeek:

How important how important do you feel like sex is for you Like, is it like? Well, I'm young, I don't want.

Everyone:

I'm young right now, right, so I'm just trying to have fun. I've been in relationships, relationships has gone, have gone bad. Uh, obviously, right, no.

Zeek:

I'm just shout out to crazy bitches, I'm just having fun, fun, while I'm still in my 20s you're still in the world, as they say. I said, you know I'm not getting serious until I hit close to my 30s by that point you'll know exactly how many military soldiers you have out in the field, and then that's right. I've had some scares sleeper agents.

Everyone:

These guys talk to me. They're like yo, you're bound for an STD or something like that, but you're still clean that part. They gave me a gift of condoms as a gift.

Zeek:

What they should give is a gift for like a test, and then you can see, I'm free and clear. I've had the test. That's good. Congratulations, honestly.

Eldar:

All right, let's get back to it. Zeke you have to help us out with this stuff, right? I mean, you're doing a really good job educating us on art. Thank you so much for that. Cool, so okay. So I guess, go through your story, the fact that you started linking up with these artists and then, and then what happened, and like, how did you get inspired to actually then create your own art?

Zeek:

and it's like picking up where we left off from like yeah, so then you know, I discovered more about like, how I can, what I can create. And then it was like music as well became part of what I like to create. Um, and then I noticed that, like things that I would create would inspire other people. Like I would make stuff in art class and someone would ask to buy it.

Zeek:

And that was kind of crazy to me. I'm like, oh, yeah, which is, by all standards, it makes sense. But at that age you're kind of like, oh, whatever, yeah, you're just making it because it's fun or it's an assignment. But then for someone to say like, oh, this is really cool, I actually buy this, it's sort of cool and brought it to that next level. And then, yeah, when I left school, I kind of did my own thing, you know, like just like partying and shit, and like just got really into the gym like super heavily, probably, like why? That's a great question. I think I haven't really quite. I was chasing some sort of fulfillment through that process. I competed in bodybuilding, so that was up on stage posing trunks, which was cool. That was always my intention.

Zeek:

I'm glad he wasn't in the audience.

Everyone:

Oh fuck, Maybe he was.

Zeek:

I heard some weird noises happening in the audience. It was a bunch of clapping, but someone clapping it didn't stop. It was just that guy's not clapping.

Everyone:

Get him out of here.

Zeek:

No no, so that that was like, yeah, that was my progression in in school the whole time. Still, art is is a thing and relevant in my life and then, I did dragon boating, and so we toured I don't know if you guys know dragon boating, it's like rowing with like rowing is usually two paddles.

Eldar:

Have you heard about it? Yeah, two paddles.

Zeek:

yes, I know two paddles Dragon bonings with one paddle. Okay.

Eldar:

It originates in China Left right.

Zeek:

Well, you have someone on your left side and you sit on them switch seats.

Everyone:

This is what you would do.

Zeek:

This is what I did. I competed while I was still doing, you know, bodybuilding. This is happening at the same time. And then we went to like China for it like uni games. We went to we had Thailand, which was like world championships, yeah. So that was like yeah, that whole time was so. It was just cool. It was cool to kind of open the perspective, like that. And then covert hits and yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a situation I feel like for most people, you kind of had some sort of change in who you were during covert or discovery. Uh, we started skateboarding, okay, and then, like damn, I was like fully invested in skateboarding, the same thing that I did with the bodybuilding. I was like yo, this. But but what I didn't realize is that, like, skateboarding is a different whole beast. Like you can gym and you can get pretty good at gym, like most people could compete if they really wanted to. Not everybody can be a pro skater.

Eldar:

Not based on what he thinks. I didn't think everybody could be a pro skater.

Zeek:

He didn I mean for some, I think. I didn't think. I just think time is the one thing right, like because it takes time to learn a trick. I tested that shit, like I would spend whole days like trying to get the tray. Yeah, each flip I was pretty quick, you know.

Zeek:

Yeah, you know he skates, he skates yeah yeah, yeah the time, yeah the time, yeah the time. It's like if you start skating at like 22, I mean by that time it's like you haven't. There's this earlier age where really, I feel like if you take on the skateboarding, then like you're getting a jumpstart on it.

Zeek:

There's people that turn pro later on as well, don't get me wrong. Like far and few, but anyway I'll continue on the track. So, yeah, I start skateboarding with the whole crew during COVID and then I break my arm Just like completely one time From skateboarding. Yeah, we're just hitting like a 50-50 on a rail. There were a couple homies at the skate park and then it just happens, I put out my hand to break my fall and then just fell in a weird way and it just completely blew up.

Zeek:

All I really remember I drove to the skate park that day as well. I used to own like a Silvia at that time, so like mad sports car, there was no way I was driving that back, but like one of the other homies, bless him drove me to the hospital.

Zeek:

I just remember seeing the other G like passed out on the ground in the grass he was not good with the blood Shut up, billy, but yeah. So then I started doing art with my left hand. And now's, when the art like comes back into the scene really heavily after, I'm like sort of well, I could keep skating, but I sort of it did sort of dishearten me in a way, cause I'm like you know, I just kept, I just I could keep skating, but it did sort of dishearten me in a way because I had built up this fictional tale, I think, a little bit in my head or whatever. I'd kind of thought about the situation. So I started doing art with my left hand now, and then back I'm adopting art again now in this sort of new fashion.

Zeek:

And then I guess things started snowballing from there. I did a mural at my uncle's coffee shop this is Melita Coffee Lounge in Queanbeyan and we sort of started putting my art in there and then just kept building and building and people started coming up and approaching me being like, yeah, this is really cool, like would you do prints, and so just using like the outside inspiration as well of my environment, I just have allowed it to sort of push me and I just, yeah, I've just kept allowing it to push me, and now I'm here, really.

Zeek:

Like I owe a lot to that outside level of inspiration, the comparison that I make with myself and the outside world and big, big artists that I look up to as well. Okay, name some of them. David Cho I don't know if any of you have heard of David Cho. He's really, really great. He did this thing with Vice, like hitchhiking across America, where he hitchhiked from the top to the bottom, or Vice, but bottom to top. Yeah and yeah. David Cho, andy Warhol Okay.

Zeek:

We know that, of course, yeah another crazy pop artist, banksy we studied him in college 100% who I think is more than one person but became more than one person, but became more than one person.

Eldar:

You know what I'm saying.

Zeek:

There was always a debate. It's like one guy. It's like no, no, I think originally yes in Bristol, but at some point, like, he understood that like in order to like, really grow, become more than just himself. Yeah, you need to like become collective.

Eldar:

Yeah, that's another story too. That's a crazy philosophy to be able to replicate yourself and spread your idea amongst others.

Zeek:

Elderism or Harrisism.

Eldar:

Or Harrisism.

Zeek:

Yeah, but so then Banksy I mean musicians that come to mind as well like Pharrell, like a creative who just can do. He can do anything, like he made the Lego movie recently. He made that. Has anyone seen that? No, I haven't seen that. I mean the ads. I saw the ads for it. I just saw Lego Snoop Dogg and I was like that is, that's kind of cool. I'm not going to lie. Genius marketing as well. Now all the little kids are Snoop Dogg Lego set with a J Kanye again.

DJ:

Like another crazy, like damn you worked with Kanye no no damn, I didn't work with Kanye.

Zeek:

Oh damn, no, no, no. These are people who I'd love to work with at some point, but we're kind of, I think, the stages of progression.

Everyone:

Kanye, yeah, not a fan, not after his stuff. No.

DJ:

Wait, wait, wait. So you're talking about the artist who inspired you. Yeah, yeah we're talking about the artist who inspired me, so I'm not a fan of Kanye.

Everyone:

He's lost me after he pulled his whole anti-Semitism bullshit.

Zeek:

Come on, man, I thought there was a lot of oh no, oh no, no. I'm reading you now. I'm remembering yeah, he did.

Everyone:

He just did blatantly pull that like he was talking bad about, did he his?

Zeek:

stance. His stance is more on aspects of but did he? He actually like he did, but like people put it out of context, like I don't think he was talking about he wore a shirt that was disrespectful.

Everyone:

Yo, I just want to let you know he's a fake Jew.

Mike:

I thought you said you guys aren't real Jews. Show him your tattoo, man.

Everyone:

I got answers. You got a Jew tattoo. No, I got a cross.

Mike:

Yo listen show him your tattoo. My father was Catholic, that's right.

Everyone:

My father was Catholic.

Everyone:

My father was Catholic.

Mike:

He's a fake Jew man, Fake Jew.

Zeek:

But you're allowed to have an opinion and it's still valid. But I think people take what Kanye did out of context because, like what he was like, yes, he said that about Jews, but there was a specific group that he was talking about?

DJ:

I think he's talking about a specific group.

Mike:

What did he say? What did he say about Jews?

DJ:

I don't think he was talking about all Jews.

Mike:

So about all jews. So what they say about you now like yeah, yeah, what did he?

Zeek:

say exactly, he doesn't know, bro.

Everyone:

Fake news man, because you know, like you know, about the rough childs and like do we know about the grudge because I still hold the garage see that's ignorance right there.

DJ:

But how do you hold it? How do you hold the?

Everyone:

grudges after he started that. Yeah, but how do you?

Mike:

know what. How do you have a standpoint and something you don't know?

Everyone:

you don't know what you't know what you don't remember what he said, bro, then you don't believe in a long time ago.

DJ:

Hey, I mean, you remember being hurt by it.

Zeek:

Yeah, if I play a song right now, though, I guarantee you might find it hard not to bop your head.

DJ:

You can't, you can't you can't admit he's a great musician. They got kona big waves and cans. I don't think I've ever seen it in a can.

Mike:

Harris, your anxiety toy, harris, don't forget your anxiety toy. Fuck you, oh my God.

Zeek:

We touched off on Kanye West. We just got caught up.

Eldar:

What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts on Kanye West? I think he's a genius.

Zeek:

I think that genius is often interpreted in many ways, but it's also capable of many things.

Eldar:

so then the question is this right, okay, it comes down to this, then then everyone is a genius, it's capable of? Well, uh, everybody's, everybody's capable of creating, creating something but here's my argument with connie west or anybody else who's profound right, like sure, they're creating stuff and they're doing stuff, but aren't we creating every single day?

Zeek:

We do. But what is not only the reason, the definition, for when you create something, do you have capacity to express that?

Eldar:

Okay, sure, here it is right. We just had a clear example, I think, with Harris when he mentioned that, look, I'm perceiving this as a banana, as whatever it is. Let's just say that his low frequency of understanding of whatever the fuck in the art was, but maybe it was the highest frequency based on the way you defined the artist it was to be perceived right. He's like yo, I want him to react this way. Therefore, he gave him the exact reaction that he wanted. Therefore, he gave him the exact reaction that he wanted. Therefore, that was actually the highest perception of reality, Instead of you, who's an artist?

Eldar:

Looked at the banana and was like that's not ridiculous at all. That's actually very smart, right? So who's to judge? Right, and, a lot of times, right, based on the question I'm asking you about. Aren't we all special, then? Because the way we move, the way we perceive, the way we speak, the way we do things is the most unique way, and the person who has the ability to actually see that is the true artist. I think the person. Here's what I'm trying to say. Did you understand my question?

Zeek:

Yeah, yeah, like we all have the capacity to create, so therefore, aren't we all genius?

Eldar:

Yes, but no. The ability to perceive that and see that as is is the truest form of actual art and creation, because we are so unique at everything that we do. You might look at Harrison like yo, he's a plain old redneck American, which is true. Which is true Absolutely, which is true. For maybe, hold on, hold on, hold on a second. I'm going to, you know, be stereotype here, for Zeke, right, he is. Harris is, it's just a true redneck American who likes hamburgers, true redneck American who likes hamburgers, waving American flags and screaming.

Everyone:

Trump on top of his lungs.

Eldar:

But the truth of the matter is he don't see what I see. It's impossible for him to see what I see I got a little bit of a country tang.

Everyone:

if you can't see that there is a bit of country tang.

Eldar:

This is ridiculous. There's no country fucking tang. That's a fucking fraud.

Everyone:

What the hell is country tang Did you?

DJ:

just say country tang.

Everyone:

What the hell is country tank Did?

DJ:

you just say country tank, country tank.

Zeek:

You were supposed to be an islander.

Everyone:

No, no, there's a bit of like this post-Malone engine. I lived in Nebraska and North Carolina.

Everyone:

I was born in North Carolina, Same as yeah.

Eldar:

I was born this way by Lady Gaga.

Zeek:

How much do you guys think that you're shaped by your environment? To what degree Zeke you have?

Eldar:

to help me with my question. I have a problem. Yeah, wait, I have a problem. That's a good question.

Mike:

It's a good question, but I think you got to do a better job at explaining it. I'm going to take my shoes off now.

Eldar:

This is not on camera, harris, don't get too excited. Just the shoes, harris.

Everyone:

I will take one. Redneck is an insult, Harris one second please.

Eldar:

Harris.

Zeek:

Toes get you uncomfortable.

Eldar:

I'm taking only one sock off, not both.

Zeek:

So does Queen Tarantino, you know.

Everyone:

No.

Mike:

I don't, that guy's a freak.

Everyone:

He takes the socks off. You think being called a redneck is a bad thing.

Zeek:

People are glad to be called rednecks okay, rednecks are glad to be called rednecks, right.

Everyone:

Yes.

Mike:

He's not a redneck, bro. There's rednecks, right.

Everyone:

They like the truth they can, I don't know. It's kind of like an art you could say. They do a lot more themselves. They don't go to a mechanic shop, they don't do this.

Zeek:

You think being called a redneck is what people associate with the redneck.

Everyone:

It's not used in an uplifting way, but you call somebody a redneck, they'll be like thank you Because to them. Let's talk about my neighbor in North Carolina. I moved there when I was 17. People, all they saw right were junk on his fucking lawn. But he used to fix up washing machines and different shit.

DJ:

Oh, that changes everything he could fix a whole bunch of shit.

Everyone:

He used to do his own work on his truck. Rednecks are capable. Okay, sure.

Zeek:

They don't follow instructions, though right, no. But had we not, and we haven't maybe experienced that side of a redneck in our environment, in our experience, our human experience? We wouldn't have that context.

Everyone:

Correct. Somebody here is redneck. All they hear is racist and this, but they're actually some of the nicest and most helpful people.

Eldar:

They're the biggest pussies in America.

Zeek:

I'm sure they also can be that as well.

Eldar:

No, they are.

Zeek:

Some of the nicest when I went down to North Carolina. You guys are going to come through to the studio.

Eldar:

I'm stereotyping this bitch but based on what we have from Harris, they're the biggest pussies I grew up in North Carolina.

DJ:

I'm not going to lie. I moved here when I was two years old.

Everyone:

I grew up here.

Zeek:

In Jersey.

DJ:

Does anybody ever In North Carolina, both my mom and my dad's side, but yeah, that's In Jersey.

Zeek:

Are they white? Whiteville North.

DJ:

Carolina.

Eldar:

No, no, it's called Whiteville I know, it's funny, whiteville, north Carolina, are they white?

Mike:

Then I would say If you say yes, I'm going to have to ask in jersey, how often does someone actually hold the door for you? What the fuck yo, my man, you don't know. Please, and thank you, yes, please, I'm asking how often do people hold the door for you? Thank you, mike. You don't have basic manners, bro. Yeah, dj, don't fucking answer that.

DJ:

Don't listen this guy's trying to do news dj, this motherfucker you know what I mean.

Eldar:

I bought him a whole case of beer and I stuck the whole fridge with beer because he's like yo, every time we have podcasts, I want to have beer. I'm like, all right, fine, I remember this shit. I brought a whole fucking shit of beer Because I thought Zeke would drink some shit too. I come here today. They had bagels. They didn't buy me a bagel. I love bagels, damn.

Everyone:

He didn't get me a bagel, would have sat and what happens?

Eldar:

I usually fucking warm that shit up and that's it.

Everyone:

You know what I'm saying god mike didn't say oh, maybe we should get eldar one yeah, well why are you hiding behind mike? My fingers like that yeah, but but I'm gonna get back to what I was saying no, no, you're not yes, I am in jersey.

Everyone:

How often do people hold the door for you? I hold the door all the time. You might hold the door, okay, okay for a pretty lady, oh that's just true. No, no, not just any lady In North Carolina there's not a person that will not hold the door Fake news. I had five in a row hold the door and I'm like yo, what the fuck? This ain't right.

Mike:

Wait, wait, wait Were you in the wheelchair at that time or no?

Eldar:

Fuck you Okay.

Everyone:

And then it was a whole new environment right. That's all fake news. Man Pulling up to.

DJ:

North Carolina, fuck you.

Everyone:

Pulling up to North Carolina for the first time.

Everyone:

It was like I passed the gas station.

Everyone:

that was like gun owners Welcome.

Everyone:

Free cup of coffee and I'm like yo what the fuck?

Everyone:

And my mom actually goes. Yeah, it's not a bad idea, you know, because if a gun owner is in there, they're least likely to get robbed, because if a gun owner is in there they're least likely to get robbed and it's like all right, You're walking to Walmart, People are holding guns and shit like that.

Eldar:

Why are we listening to this? We have to address that first thing that you fucking just said.

DJ:

This is why you could be president. Call your mom right now.

Eldar:

Fuck this shit. She has to explain what the fuck does she mean by that. It makes sense, no.

Zeek:

Yes, call her right now. How often are places getting rugged? What the fuck? Thank you.

Eldar:

Thank you All the time.

Mike:

I told you we'll hold doors, man, we're done.

Everyone:

No, this is true, overruled.

Eldar:

I'm sorry. Be quiet, Mike. I'm sorry. People are extremely nice right they go from extremely nice to having to fucking wear a gun. You know what I mean. What the fuck.

Everyone:

It's your fucking Second Amendment, right. Okay, overruled your fucking Second Amendment, right. Are you done? My mom used to carry a gun when she lived in North Carolina, yo you are off the hinge right now.

Eldar:

You want to take a break? Fuck you, I like guns too man.

Mike:

Yeah, bro, I like guns too. Don't smoke your vape.

Zeek:

I think the idea or the meaning of being able to have the gun is what's important. It's like the fact that you're allowing Because it's your right to do it, you know.

Eldar:

Yeah, okay, how about this Zeke, based on everything you know right now, does Harris have a gun? Yes, oh, thank you, zeke. You were wrong Again.

Everyone:

Wow, I'm going to apply for a permit. Here we fucking go, man 26 years old talking all this fucking shit. I believe in First Amendment. I've shot guns, so what? What does that have to do with anything? But in Jersey they just legalized the concealed weapons permit. Yeah, it's pretty strict.

DJ:

In Jersey. They just legalized the concealed weapons permit.

Zeek:

My friend has a gun, andrei has a gun. Guns aren't legal in every state, right? No, no, okay.

Everyone:

New Jersey and New York used to have very strict gun laws.

Eldar:

Now they don't. It happens, the guy who's very passionate about guns and patriotic fucking things. I'm applying for it. He doesn't have one.

Everyone:

I haven't had the fucking time. I've had boxes thrown at me.

Eldar:

Oh no, you're right. You're right, You've been very busy. I'm so sorry. I apologize for everything I said, DJ.

Everyone:

I got a Tesla outside. I write 33 boxes a month, wow.

Mike:

Why are you lying to people now?

Everyone:

Fuck you. Okay, thank you. No, I'm going to be applying for my concealed carry permit here in.

DJ:

Jersey First you got to get a gun permit Fake news.

Everyone:

They made it legal. Everyone filled out application A whole bunch of people.

Zeek:

So if we want to find you anywhere, we're going to find you in a coffee shop. Yeah, what the hell.

Eldar:

Let's, it was a gas station. A gas station, yes, okay, zeke, get back to the point Please. We have a problem. The problem is, if you're a true artist, you have the ability to see everything as art, because the truth of the matter is, this moment is magical.

Zeek:

Truly.

Eldar:

Is it us? Is it the person that's perceiving this moment? Who is perceiving this moment? That, at least me, right now, at least I, right with my subjective experience, can truly tell you that I'm experiencing a magical moment and I have this ability to experience these types of moments a lot. It sounds like you, as an artist, have the same ability to do that when you create your magic, and that's why I would like to come in into your question, which is very interesting that you pose it the way you did. What can we learn from allowing ourselves to be absorbed by our passions? And I think there's a connection between where we're talking about the magic and following your passion. Right, I think I'm following my passion. I'm talking a lot of shit, but I hope I'm saying something because it feels good to me and that's sort of what counts into.

Zeek:

The most part, yeah, is that it feels good.

Eldar:

That's right. That's right. So I think that please at least expand on what makes you feel good about some of the stuff that you do and why it's skadoodle. I'm sorry if I pronounced that wrong.

Zeek:

No, no, it's cool. It's a new word for me Skazoodle.

Eldar:

Skazoodle, skazoodle. You know what I mean. What the fuck is skazoodle?

Zeek:

And why is it fucking Zeke or cool I guess skazoodle is is, um it's. I always have such a difficulty like contextualizing it. Sure, you know, like it's such an energy, yeah, thing that really is more just about like the expression of fun, yeah, that I feel okay in life, okay, and so I'm like what, what am I gonna do? Like, what can I produce? That is is in that, you know Okay, for example, with the shirt it was like well, I'm sick of box logo tees that you can just read.

Zeek:

I'm like, let me just try and make something a bit different. I mean, that's like it's still. It becomes iconic. You can't exactly read it if you don't know what it is, but it's more reliant on you being part of that in crowd which there is a bit of that famous sort of niche thing there. Okay, but I guess, allowing myself to be fully what was the word? Just like fully absorbed, immersed, immersed, yeah, in the creation process it's sort of like there's a level of calculation and a level of trust in the fun following the process of fun. Why should we fuck with you?

Eldar:

I mean nobody, I see it right, but there's so much substance to it that it's almost like it's a cool shirt, but that's all I got. The shit that you're saying is fucking dope. So I'm challenging you to say, like why aren't you rapping more than you're drawing? You know what I'm saying.

Zeek:

There's a level of that where I just can't make my mind up. Okay, on the stability of that. Okay, you know, it's like committing to just the rap game is okay, is big. Well, because you're talking a lot of shit. Yeah, yeah, I gotta talk a lot of shit. I hear it.

Eldar:

I'm here solo, baby, yeah, I know, so I know you said a lot of shit here it's a lot of shit that you know.

Zeek:

If you're stepping in it, you look on your foot and you're like you know what? Like this is the kind of shit that magic mushrooms grow from. Yeah.

DJ:

You know, like cow shit.

Zeek:

Yeah, and like, if you eat one of those mushrooms You're chilling, you're like'm dope, you know what I'm saying.

Eldar:

Like it's about that there you go right, like it's almost like, sure, your t-shirt is cool and the shirt design is cool, but at the end of the day, do you got?

DJ:

the sauce to go with it. Yeah, you know you can't have the fit, but do you like someone? Just just saying? I forgot where I read that it's cool.

Zeek:

But I want more.

DJ:

It's that extra X thing or whatever.

Eldar:

Do you have it? And it just sounds like you do have it. You know what I'm saying. You do have it.

Zeek:

I think there's a level where I'm thankful that I do. It's a natural.

DJ:

You actually seem like you care about actually putting the work in.

Eldar:

We understand what you're doing. You're touring here to you care about, like, actually doing, putting the work in. So then it's almost like we understand that what you're doing, you're touring here to spread the word of that which is you right and skadoodle. I'm sorry, I'm a little drunk. I got it right skadoodle is still work.

Zeek:

Skadooski some people say skadooski, yeah, it's cool, you know.

Everyone:

Let you know I do got some canvas here. I won't mind getting that tattooed, man, yeah.

Eldar:

Oh, that shit is growing on you I like it If you do get that tattooed.

Zeek:

you're coming on tour, Yo, you heard this.

Eldar:

You're coming on tour. You're going to get yaddy Yo chill with that Zeke. That's my talent, bro. You know what I'm saying DJ, dj, dj Woo.

DJ:

No way, yes.

Eldar:

That's crazy. You see that face right there.

DJ:

I was gonna say I like the logo. I was gonna comment on that but, damn you, really you got the brand.

Zeek:

He's a lifer bro the Jersey Bull right here.

DJ:

Yes, he's braided.

Zeek:

He's a lifer, bro. He's a lifer. The jersey bow right here.

Eldar:

Yes, bow, right here. Yeah, it's a very interesting topic what we're talking about here. It's very interesting To be able to bridge the gap Between that which you're feeling, to be able to pass it on To individuals like us. We don't know who the fuck, who Zeke is. You know what?

Everyone:

I'm saying, yeah, you co-signed you.

Eldar:

I was like yo let my man in.

Zeek:

That's the crazy thing as well, right? Is that like my adventures, right, have been tethering me to other people that have then come close to me, yeah, and through this process we're like separate, separate. They've come close to me and then they've done their own thing. Or like they've met and connected and now they're kind of like doing their own thing. And that's what I realized is like I'm like there's a lot of people like I was saying that I'm missing that. How do I get this visual? How do I find this? How do I find that?

Zeek:

And I'm like if this attracts genuine creatives because they like it, because they fuck with me.

Zeek:

It's like attracts life.

Zeek:

You know, if you go out into the't be expecting people to hold the door open for you, because you ain't out here doing that energy, at the end of the day, yeah, what you get outliers, but I'm saying, like, the energy that you put out is the energy that you receive 100%.

Zeek:

And you know, if you just try yeah, everybody has, like you know, dark thoughts, like every now and once in a while, but I feel like, at the end of the day, if you just keep moving through life, you do your best to move through life just with passion and enthusiasm, then you can't go wrong Like you'll be fulfilled at least. Yeah, you might not achieve the ultimate desire, but there's a level of that in which, like, I'm personally chasing like self-fulfillment and so I'm going to do this like by any means and like whether people like roll their eyes when I'm like showing them, like my demo, and I'm like, okay, you can roll your eyes, but I'm gonna leave it here anyway, because, like, fuck, fuck, fuck, pride sometimes you know, yeah, and with that being said, let me play a couple of sound.

Eldar:

I wanted to play a sound like yeah your shit that. Hopefully it is your shit. Some research this one doesn't have lyrics. I'm sorry. Oh shit, I think you deleted it. It was you and Ilya printing some shit and there was a sound in the background oh true, I mean, I could find it, you play, you just bring it to the mic. Yeah, that shit was dope. It's his Instagram.

DJ:

Yeah, he puts stuff on Instagram.

Zeek:

It was like an ad or something. It was, um, it was like a bit of a just a creative video where I was showing mine and Ilya's production process.

Eldar:

Yeah, but in the background there was music that was behind the scenes.

Zeek:

Yeah, yeah, behind the scenes.

Everyone:

I'm big into that Do.

Zeek:

I'm big into that. Do you remember what the video?

Everyone:

was like.

Eldar:

Yeah, you've put a lot of different new stuff up here so I'm a little bit drunk to sort through it. Do you remember what the song sounded like? It was very mellow, oh true, like a river, like I'm just chilling, oh damn I don't know if I'll find it.

Zeek:

Yeah know if I find it, yeah, like a star, wasn't it?

Everyone:

mm-hmm.

Zeek:

I mean, what I can do is I'll play one of the songs. I don't know if it'll be the one, the right one but, whatever, whatever you like, yeah, show us, introduce us to it.

Everyone:

Zeke the kid no, no, no, you gotta change it to the shirt, bro to what to what?

Zeek:

the shirt? I gotta change it to Skazoodle, skazoodle, yeah, man, no, no, you gotta rep the brand, man, I wanted it to be. Like Skazoodle is like its own thing. You know, I didn't want to become because, like, if I become this like, I'm holding this back. If I become this brand like this is already like more powerful than me, like I was saying to Illy, like I feel like I'm serving the brand, like I know I'm the creator, but like the people, yeah, the founder.

Eldar:

I a tour, okay, but like the people, yeah, the founder, I'm just the founder, Like I'm.

Zeek:

that's very interesting that you put it that way. Um, yeah, I think it's important to realize that. Is that a humbling?

Eldar:

experience.

Zeek:

It's the most humbling because it's like is that what it's made?

Zeek:

That's why you look at it like that because it's humbling, it's the reality. It's like a brand really is more powerful. Like imagine like me thinking that me as Zeke the kid, the performer yes, I have the ability to touch like whoever, like thousands oh, that sounds really bad, but you know what I mean. Like perform and that as well, but like as a brand. It's like I mean, you're kind of you might be initially supporting it because of me, but I'd want you to be supporting it and you'd find your own reasons. You know Skazoodle means this to me.

Eldar:

Okay, so it's very open-ended.

Mike:

It is yeah, Is all art subject to interpretation. Is there objective art?

Eldar:

See, that's a question that everybody's been wrestling for a very long time.

Zeek:

Does that depend then, if you go into a gallery and someone nudges you and says that's a? That's a question that everybody's been wrestling for a very long time. Does that depend on if you go into a gallery and someone like nudges you and says that's art? Yeah, the instant someone says that's art to you is there something that we can collectively agree on?

Everyone:

like there's no discussion, like this is art, no, I don't think so I gotta ask you a question, the Mona Lisa and I'm going to start shit with Tommy here.

Eldar:

If you show Mona Lisa to Kyrus, do you think he's going to have the same reaction as you? No, I don't know.

Everyone:

I'm going to say something here, not right now. I'm going to start some shit with Tommy. Hold on. I got a question for Zeke. Do you think everyone has a bit of creativity in them? Yeah, oh my God.

Eldar:

You missed the whole fucking conversation you missed the whole thing, man, we confirmed it.

Zeek:

Every single one does even like, even look in a fucked up way, pedophiles. Because you know what I'm saying? Because it's like the creativity comes from the inner kid and everybody has the inner kid and if that, yeah, p Diddy yeah, yeah, for real like. P Diddy as a kid. Maybe he was like out of the Diddy did P Diddy have brothers? I don't know, maybe he had a control thing, you know, when he finally got to that stage where he could figure out, I can just tell someone to do something, throw them a band.

Everyone:

He made art with that baby oil.

Zeek:

He made art with that baby oil. I sound like I'm advocating.

DJ:

I do not support P.

Zeek:

Diddy by any means.

DJ:

I had to DJ. Where do we go? Let's bring it back.

Everyone:

So, I just want to say Tommy, you were just called out and you're fucking wrong. You fucking Wait what Tommy walked off? He claimed he was a creative Tom Tom Keenan. Tom Tom Keenan.

DJ:

Tom, tom Church, tommy, but he created, he was a creative and the rest of us were not.

Everyone:

Tommy said you weren't creative. None of us.

DJ:

Oh shit.

Mike:

Well, he might be right, because at this time you may not be tapping into your creativity.

Everyone:

How's that book coming along? Tom Correct Z.

Zeek:

This is true. Yeah, there's moments like you're not always like the thing is not every it's like a.

Mike:

We have a capacity to be creative, to be this genius, but if we don't do it?

DJ:

You're talking about DJ DeBator and Saderways right. Yeah, even JK Rowling is like. I wish I could just stay up for like four days when, when you're on you're on. It's definitely true. It's waves, it's all waves To answer your question.

Everyone:

Tom is writing an autobiography and I asked to read it beforehand. This is supposedly. He's never showed it to us, Because I don't want him throwing in those YP days, man.

DJ:

Whoa YP days. Why not Back when you used to?

Mike:

sit on his lap. What are you scared of, Harris? You used to sit on his lap. No, I didn't.

Everyone:

I was a crazy kid back then, dude, you were a bad kid.

Mike:

He was a.

Everyone:

G. I know my mom would come to talk to you almost every fucking week to talk to you.

Eldar:

Now she calls this a fucking cult, See Harris' art is to tell stories, fake stories.

Mike:

Yes, art is to tell stories, fake stories, yes, that's his genius creativity.

DJ:

Oh, fuck you. Fake stories, fake news Fake news is your art.

Mike:

First, he tells them to himself, he believes them, and then he tries to tell them to others.

Everyone:

Yes, oh, fuck you bro, that's a sick art. My mom used to fuck comedy all the time.

Zeek:

No.

Everyone:

I've never met your mom. Oh, fuck you stand-up comedy.

Zeek:

Don't even rehearse anything, Just go. You guys got to pretend that you're going somewhere else. Get him to the comedy club and be like Harris, and he'll be like, and then you step up on stage.

Mike:

We got to take him. We got to take him, and then we should just hit an audience.

Everyone:

You just get up on stage and start shit-talking these guys. Some of my fucking things would be looked. People fucking love it. You just get up on stage and start shit-talking these guys Some of my fucking things would be looked really fucking bad on.

Zeek:

No, no. And then if the crowd starts booing, you just start getting into the crowd. They love that shit. But like you know what Fuck you guy over there Like yeah, yeah.

Everyone:

You should seriously try it though.

Eldar:

The way you're going and who you're going to be, nobody really understands.

Everyone:

Trust me, I thought about it. We do sales calls and Eldar goes. Why don't you throw some of your jokes?

Eldar:

Oh, he's on the team. Yeah, bro.

DJ:

Oh my God, he's been working for six months, son Six months.

Zeek:

Six months dog.

DJ:

Wait, so Okay, six months, six months. I I wait, so okay. I remember we did talk about that.

Everyone:

During fourth of july I was working here, dude, yeah yeah, you started. He's cut off, he's not allowed to have any more liquor but, no, uh, you guys do uh like he said I should throw some of my jokes in there. But most of my jokes are very offensive. I'd probably be cancelled in comedy.

Zeek:

Your jokes are not that offensive, man. Maybe you can find a way to contextualize those jokes in a more like us, I think what Elder's asking for, but Harris doesn't understand.

Mike:

It is actually Elder is asking him to tap into his genius, which is to be your true, authentic self. But Harris is too much of a pussy to do it.

Eldar:

Yes. So there you go, right, zeke. So what we have is a conundrum where Harris puts on this mask for his friends who he's very comfortable with. This macho man, gun-slinging, fucking redneck, is going to kill everybody.

Everyone:

You know what I mean? Hey, I never said I was going to kill everyone.

Eldar:

You know what I'm saying. You always want to break our legs Every fucking day. You come in here like are you serious about fuck you up? You know what I mean. I never say I'm going to fuck you up. You know what I'm talking about. But the truth of the matter is the kid is a very nice kid, A sweet pie, A sweet pie. He's a sweet pie which has nothing wrong with to charm people.

Zeek:

You're not telling him why, but also it's like if he led with that, maybe he wouldn't be the Harris that you know Correct. You love him for it.

Eldar:

Correct, which I need him to understand the fact that there's an actor and it is actual Harris. As long as you understand the distinction between two, we can play the game.

Everyone:

I think I need to some context on why I built up this persona.

Eldar:

Nobody wants to hear your fake story. Listen, nobody wants to hear it, but I'd like for you to say it anyway, you know why I built up the persona.

Mike:

No idea. Say it again.

Everyone:

So I was went COVID hit. I became homeless.

Mike:

Home. All you said Fuck you I became homeless.

Everyone:

Okay, I moved back to New York to be close to the family. I ended up going into the New York City shelter system, oh wow.

Eldar:

Which was a very nice hotel at the time.

DJ:

It was not a hotel.

Mike:

You stayed at the Ritz Carlton.

DJ:

I stayed at.

Everyone:

Schwartz. I stayed at Schwartz Assessment and Selection Okay which it was right off of Harlem on Ward's Island.

Eldar:

Why are you looking at him like he's black? He's not even black. You work in New York, correct?

Zeek:

What he pointed at him as well.

DJ:

Actually, he pointed at him as well.

Everyone:

Wait what you work in New York, what you saying.

Everyone:

Yo that's racist, man. Yo, that's racist. I'm talking to DJ.

DJ:

Why are you talking? He's a redneck.

Everyone:

Yes, ward's Island was right off of Harlem, so in the shelter system it's probably one of the most dangerous shelter systems in the world. Fake news Because you have people that are released on parole and they can't live at home because they have convicted felons that work in their house, so they put them in the shelter system. So you got to get a lot of gang violence, fights, attacks.

Zeek:

So you experienced some of that while you were there as well.

Everyone:

The story he tells I had to build up a persona that I had to adjust to my environment.

Eldar:

Can you show the tough guy that goes on the train with a leather jacket and what he has to do in order to be protected.

Everyone:

Do me a favor. Have you rode the subway? No, you did Alright, so now you know.

DJ:

My dad told me that I wanted to ask that how much of America have you experienced?

Eldar:

Yo time out DJ. That's a fucking loaded question.

DJ:

Have you experienced the?

Everyone:

tweakers on the subway. Have you experienced the tweakers on the subway?

Zeek:

Yeah, yeah, the tweakers on the subway Harris hit us with it.

Everyone:

Why the fuck is that crazy? This is how.

Eldar:

Harris would go into the subway.

Everyone:

My dad, recommended that I enter the subway. With my hand in my pocket Of my leather jacket To make it seem like I had a gun, if anything looked sketchy.

Eldar:

Mike, can you get the sweater Fuck?

Zeek:

yeah.

Eldar:

We have the sweater.

Everyone:

Harris can we show Zeke please. You don't like that in the jacket.

Mike:

Show the fingers.

Everyone:

Show the fingers. Put Show the fingers, put it on the poncho.

Mike:

Put it on the poncho.

DJ:

Come on.

Everyone:

Put it on, do a visual.

Everyone:

My dad doesn't realize that this isn't the New York he grew up in.

Zeek:

Okay, hand in the jacket.

Everyone:

Like this, like this, like he's ready.

Eldar:

Yeah, he's ready, like he's cocked.

Everyone:

Someone walks towards you, looks at you the wrong way hands you a jacket.

Zeek:

Wait, wait, wait.

Eldar:

Do you spray paint the fingers black? But anyway, I built up a persona.

Everyone:

What is?

Zeek:

that a gun.

Everyone:

I built up a persona in the shelter because it was very hectic.

Everyone:

Wait, they were trying to make a release on you. Fuck you.

Everyone:

I met people in there that said they felt more comfortable in prison. What? Because there was more eyes in there. In here they don't patrol the fucking area. There were people that were killed, that laid on the floor for five hours until the coroner showed up. What the fuck?

Zeek:

Yeah, yeah, that's a big thing with prison. How much does it rehabilitate in comparison to how much it like habituates?

Eldar:

those are very good questions, but we're not going to tackle those.

Everyone:

I had to build up this persona.

Eldar:

Harris is definitely not going to tackle it right now.

Zeek:

I probably can't rest until I see the pose, the subway pose from Harris.

Eldar:

We can also do the skating.

Everyone:

We have two things in the queue right now. I just want to state this is the persona that was built up.

Eldar:

Hold on one second. Let me mute the mic before you speak.

Everyone:

I'm trying to get to the persona you fucking asshole. Okay, fine, go ahead. I built up a persona that I had to adjust to my environment, and you're not the first person that I was told that I don't need to act like this anymore. Work with them, not in the environment. But it has kind of stuck because I did that for about 9 months 9 months.

Eldar:

If you said a couple years, okay, but 9 months, are you kidding me?

Everyone:

This is where you have to lie and say 5 years.

Eldar:

Sometimes it's like Right now you can lie. We're not even close to being president yet.

Zeek:

To the public it was 9 years. Yes, 9 years. Fuck you.

Eldar:

To the public. It was nine years. Yes, nine years. He had to act this way, fuck you.

Everyone:

But the shelter environment was like if you looked at ever pictures of a dorm in prison or jail.

Zeek:

you had numbers on your bed and they would come in and bed check every three fucking times. Were you with someone bunking with someone?

Mike:

What the fuck? Whoa he's trying to bring his boyfriend we had 300 people in like a section.

Eldar:

We're not going to talk about his personal life now.

Everyone:

You had dorm one dorm two, dorm three, and you had bed 200. And when you walked into the facility, from coming outside you'd go hey, yeah, bed 219. Oh yep.

Zeek:

Why didn't? You stay with your boy.

Mike:

Crispy instead of going to the homeless shelter that's a different question. His shit is packed. He didn't even know about it. Can we get?

Eldar:

back to the point.

Everyone:

I hit it from my friends man.

Zeek:

It's like we're in a bus, right, and then we're on a highway and all of a sudden Harris grabs a wheel and just yanks it to the right and it's like down Harris Street.

Eldar:

now I'm going to press the fucking button.

Everyone:

If you want to shut the fuck up.

Eldar:

I'm going to fucking press the button.

Everyone:

One more word. Go ahead, motherfucker. You brought shit up are you fucking serious. You brought shit up.

Eldar:

That's strike one, strike one strike two gets you into the bathroom.

Mike:

Fuck you yeah, you finished the podcast.

Everyone:

I'm not gonna let you fucking explain shit without me putting into context how it was created.

Eldar:

listen, our job is to clean your image, not yours. So sit there and calm down.

Mike:

You're not qualified to clean your own image. Yes, we're cleaning yours.

Everyone:

This is shit that's going to help me get elected though.

Mike:

No, you don't know what's good for you.

Everyone:

I was homeless and I came here.

Zeek:

Nobody gives a fuck. You're lying, but the point is, the barricade that you put up in terms of you assessing the outside environment as a threat is something that you're not able to be aware of, because this is something that everybody has it as well. Everybody has this edge, whatever it is. That for you, was traumatic experience, so you built that into your character and it's going to be a bit of a process. You're going to have to do multiple doses of mushrooms in order to consolidate that.

Everyone:

You want a little bit more.

Zeek:

Everybody has this thing, and if you can acclimatize yourself to it, you realize that it's the ego.

Mike:

It's a fake story that we tell ourselves.

Eldar:

Yes, mike, chill with that. Okay, you're fucking, you're just rambling right now.

Zeek:

Well, fake is that's a hard word.

Eldar:

Yes, I know where Mike's coming from, but, zeke, how can art help us with this shit? Because you're over here saying like yo skadoodle, skadoodle, this shit is dope. This is how I feel Everybody should feel this way. How can you transfer that? I'm sorry, no, no. If it's a moment, sure, but at the end of the day, how do we transfer to make sure that the people endure it or have the ability to prolong it, right, and run with it and live by it, or have a way of life and run with it and live by?

Zeek:

it or have a way of life that's dependent on if you can see it becoming part of you. How? How do you do this? You have to Skadoodle it. You have to skadoodle it. You have to put it on powerful people. You have to put it on people like Kanye. You have to put it on people who have vocalization, because the definition they have for their creativity on people like Kanye. You have to put it on people that inspire, who have vocalization, because the definition they have for their creativity is open to a forum of people who are listening and who then absorb that. You know, everybody can create, like you said, but then like what is your immediate circle of influence? Your small group of friends? Maybe that's my small group of friends. Everybody wears my shit, everybody likes it.

Eldar:

I'm going to wear your shit. Your shit is fucking dope. Where is it?

Everyone:

It's cool you fucking calm down.

Eldar:

You're irrelevant right now. I have to wear this shit.

Zeek:

Imagine a room of 30,000 people that think you're cool and that they feel like you're more to them than just a person. Then more of those people take on that expression of yours, that essence, the essence, yeah, yeah. That's the problem I'm having.

Eldar:

I'm having the problem with transferring the essence onto the people, right, so they can experience the skadoodle way. Let's just say, in such a way that you experience it and I'm just having a hard time describing it or transferring it through.

Eldar:

Maybe, uh, whatever your mode of expression is which is right now you're writing it or creating it with, with, with art, right with, like I don't know what is it called painting or doodling, whatever. Yeah, um, I guess, how does the transfer of knowledge happen? You gotta take a tour, man, you gotta take a deep.

Everyone:

What the fuck you gotta take a tour, tour where we gotta open our own church, man.

Eldar:

Elderism bitch, I'm trying. You have to tour around the United States man. I'm trying to understand Skadoodle Church man.

Everyone:

I'm gonna take you to Africa and drink the Kool-Aid.

Zeek:

DJ, do you gig at venues?

DJ:

Yes, no, not right now the wedding venue. I used to gig around I know the gig life.

Zeek:

There's levels to it where it's like in the game you need to be. You need to do that work in order to become somewhere in the scene. You need to do that work in order to become somewhere in the scene.

DJ:

Yeah, no, it's constant work too To build your shit up or just make the right connections Consistent connections.

Zeek:

Yeah, and it's like the timing. I wish it's an easy explanation as to like an answer, but it's such a multifaceted thing. It's like who you know, how you is, how your schedule matches.

Zeek:

There's math variables for sure, and then you could even want it too. You can want it too bad, like you can want success for yourself, so bad that it gives people the wrong vibe. You know, like if I was in here, I haven't at one point said I'm the greatest. Do I believe it? Maybe we're supposed to coin it? Well, it's for other people to make up their decision. Yeah, the point being is that, like, sometimes you know, you just have to, like I said, you just have to move without you need to leave pride behind, you need to leave the ego behind so that you can just, like, do your work. You know, so you can just do your work and let people just experience it, um, and and then just that, like, if they like it it's up to them.

Eldar:

I mean shit like yeah, that's the problem we're having.

Eldar:

You're fucking with your shit, it's dope, it's subjective to you and it's really good. Should it be in a natural progression where the people that you're trying to fuck with, or the audience, should have that same experience that you're having and that's success and that's the binding of your art and their understanding of it? That now it's like oh shit, it is art, I see his magic, I love it, I perceive it, I understand it it, I perceive it, I understand it like is that the synchronicity? That should it be?

Mike:

yeah, like should that be it, or is it just open interpretation and harris?

Mike:

is seeing his fucking jingo jeans and I think like, um, the true, genuine, the truest form. I don't think they should, but they don't have. People will not have a choice. If you present something that's extremely genuine, okay, it's like harris is putting on an act, for example, okay, which I like, which we love. I love that, we love it. Okay, and to a certain degree, we're all actors in this world, right, yes, harris is a really bad one, but yeah, no, but a good one for us, but a good one for us hold on.

Everyone:

Let me finish adults are speaking.

Mike:

Now, fuck you. It makes me think about when you have something that's actually genuine, that you actually were able to tap into, something very special, that your true essence of who you are, without any masks, without any insecurities, but a genuine create, something genuine. I don't think it's going to be able for the world not to discover it. Wow, that is very interesting, like what makes me think. Right, for example, does Zeke have that? What do you think? Does Zeke have that? Oh, I don't know. I have to see. Zeke is pretty dope. The thing is like not me, but I guess we have to see if he's actually able to engage in the world without any masks, right, in the way that it creates art. Is there any masks there? If you are truly yourself, right, you're gonna get this cover, like 50 cent, for example, right? Yeah, I was just thinking about this because I've been listening to some interviews. He was making albums, records for fucking 10 years before, all of a sudden, he became the hottest guy ever yeah he's one of the best like rappers of all time.

Mike:

Yeah, why did that become the?

Zeek:

case him over the edge as well well, push him over the edge right.

Mike:

Something did where he's like y'all don't give a fuck what people think about me. Yeah I don't give a fuck like he almost faced death, whatever right. He almost died, yeah, but then he said yo fuck everybody, I'm gonna create art from the soul, from the heart, not for somebody else, but for myself.

Zeek:

But he also did that whole rap beef phase. That is important in his progression. He wasn't afraid to call out other rappers but he knew Bigger than him at that moment and he knew that if they retaliate to him, any bad press is good press.

Everyone:

He called out his own fucking shooter dude, yeah. Yeah, that as well. I think it's gonna any bad bad press is good press. Yeah, I mean, he called out. He called out his own fucking shooter dude, yeah yeah, that as well.

Zeek:

Like yeah, I think it's that, but like that point being the fact that he's not wasn't afraid to call out people, like just helped, like push him into that upper, kind of but then his album get rich or die.

Mike:

Trying. That was like everybody. No matter who you were, you always know that album was just crazy.

Everyone:

It was the sickest album.

Mike:

But I think that happened because he was able to tap into himself who he truly was, and he wasn't trying to be somebody he's not. He was actually given an authentic version of himself, which is a hard thing to do. Now, if you, as an artist, are able to tap into your true self and present your true self to the world, I think you will get discovered. Because I just think it's inevitable. I think that's just how the world works. Everybody, regardless if they know it or not, is gravitating to do exactly what you're talking about. It's to be truly happy, and you can only be truly happy when you are your true self, and that's such a hard thing to do, when you are your true self and doing the shit that you're passionate about.

Eldar:

We actually talked about this Yo listen.

Mike:

it's okay if you don't understand anything.

Everyone:

Fuck you. We actually talked about this. When I'm here, I act like my true self. Wait to the mic. When I'm at home with my dad or my mom I don't act like this. You're an actor. Yeah, you don't, because first actor. Yeah, you don't, because, first of all, I grew up and if I talk the way I talk here, they'd see it as disrespect. Why are you always cursing? Why are you always doing this? This is just how I talk. Yeah, you know, here you guys are laughing, you guys are having fun if I go out and I'm walking down the street.

Everyone:

I don't do this to people I meet right, because I'm afraid it will come off as disrespect that's.

Zeek:

That's the area of things that like is always something to work on. Like this, like this is the record and shit, like I just I do it anywhere because the most important thing, like when I was still living back at home, like I take a bunch of mushrooms and sit in my room and just do nothing, yeah, and I just sit there with myself and just sit and and think and be like like what the fuck? Like what the fuck is important, like what is important to you, yeah, and one of the things that I decided was important is to not have this like this performer, artist, artist, person, no separation like, which has caused me like, and people around me, yeah, like hell of grief, because they're like, you're not even human. You don't fuck people, you don't fuck, you don't do that shit, you don't drink, you don't this, you don't really like pop, and it's like, well, I don't put on the act of wanting to do it.

Zeek:

That's why it was important for me to understand that the wall is going. The wall, yeah, is going to for me. It was going to impact my interaction with the world and so, like, I tried my best to just acclimatize myself, to just be you. This is the best at the most time, all times. Wow, that's very interesting.

Eldar:

Um, an interesting part of that Ilya's gravitated toward. Gravitated toward the shit, gravitated toward this shit.

Mike:

Oh, ilya, ilya is still fucking.

Eldar:

He's still Ilya, bro. Well, that is very interesting.

Mike:

He's going to tie back to. The thing we always discuss is the recollection of the soul. Yes, that's a huge thing, and this is part of it too.

Eldar:

No, but, like you know, I was like yo. Let's see who Zeke is, and I see who Zeke is and I see who Zeke is. I'm happy for Elliot.

Everyone:

I didn't realize, Can you shut the fuck up.

Eldar:

I'm staying here.

Everyone:

I didn't realize that Because they're laughing right, and they're like.

Everyone:

You know people when they come on the podcast will say you're hilarious, I didn't realize the way I act. Yeah, the way I talk. Yeah, it's funny. Yes, Because I always hear. You know the way you talk, you fucking throw the F-bomb all the time. You do this. You know it's not funny, it's you got a bad mouth and I'm like. My mom used to say that, so I used to hide it from people I meet because I'm afraid if I talk the way I'm going to talk, I'm going to offend this person. You know, with my friends, with my close associates, yeah, I'll say oh, fuck you, dude.

Everyone:

They know me, I'm fucking around. I'll do it with a fucking smile on my face, dude, you know. But if I go out into the world, I'm afraid to show that part of me.

Mike:

I was just having a conversation with another gentleman that you know. His name is James. This guy's a friend of ours. His name is James, this guy is a friend of ours. He, he's I was just having a conversation with. I was saying we just had a conversation. I just had a conversation with James.

Everyone:

I think you know James right, you don't know, james, but I know I was having a conversation with him.

Mike:

Another dope ass cat, another yeah, character. Yeah, what about? About? Regarding what he's saying is like every like in in sales, for example, you call in and you put it on the fact. Oh hi, how you doing this is harris, how are you? I'd like to tell you about my product. Right, this is just a regular sales pitch, fake ass, fucking thing. Right, and I was telling james because he's looking to get into the sales job and I'm like yo, people don't buy the product, they buy the person. If you come in there and you're an authentic self, the way you talk, who you are, it's fucking refreshing.

Zeek:

I can't talk the way I talk. It may be no, not yet you find a way.

Mike:

You have to find a way to be yourself.

Everyone:

But obviously you can't just say fuck you or fuck you or fuck you, right obvious, but the confidence in knowing that if you say fuck you to a friend, they're gonna know that it's not an insult yeah it's the same confidence that you would project to someone who you don't know I also had a friend that told me crispy, oh my god, if you talk in a conversation at a bar, right yeah, and you say fuck you with the smile, people are gonna know you're just fucking around. He goes, you're just afraid to act that way. That's right. Yes, because he goes. If you looked at me and said fuck you and I never met you before with a straight face, yeah, I look at an insult, but he go, you know, if you go, oh, fuck you with that smile you do, people are gonna know you're just fucking and I think that's that's the whole point that people gravitate towards authentic fucking people, not fucking people who are on the phone pretending to be somebody that not this professional fucking sales guy.

Mike:

That's the whole point that I was making to you, to James is saying like, hey, people are going to buy from you based on who you are and if you present an authentic person, I don't see how anybody could turn that down. Think about all the deals that get made. You think it's because the person is like so good at sales or like something else, even if you look at toli.

Everyone:

How does?

Mike:

he sell. He sells by being his authentic self, which is to challenge people to ask good questions. Right? This is like the same thing if you present to the world your true version of who you are, it's undeniable. Same thing for zeke I if he was to present his art, nobody's gonna say, y'all don't fuck with it it's impossible why you were saying now to crack a few jokes, because it's what I do all the time.

Everyone:

That's right, but I you told me you would help me find the jokes to use and what not to use yeah, but it's.

Eldar:

that's a difficult task because, naturally, when you when I'm joking, I throw up.

Everyone:

It comes very naturally. Yeah, yeah.

Eldar:

So we have to find a way to do it, because obviously we run a business here, zeke right. So we can't have this guy telling the fucking customers or prospects fuck you, fuck you all day you know what I mean, but there's certain things that we can do in order to integrate his true self into it, and that's what I want. I want him to have the best time of his life so he can make money, be successful right and hopefully contribute to the company at the end of the day.

Mike:

And I think that also, we will accomplish this. It also extends towards the other person to be their true, natural self. When you show like hey, we're having a genuine moment here. Yeah, we're being our true selves. Like, oh wait, I could be like this way with you too, that's right. Like great, you think that person on the phone is any different than you. They don't think about fucking and doing drugs and banging hookers or being a fucking guy.

Mike:

Yeah game that we're like these nice fucking suits, but the truth is nobody's a suit, bro. We're all fucking horny as fuck. We want to do wild shit. We want to wild out, have fun, fuck shit up. That's it.

Eldar:

Skadoodle, this shit.

Mike:

Skadoodle the fuck out of these whores, man Whores.

Eldar:

Yeah, so look, let's get back to Skadoodle. I think you have a difficult task, zeke. I think you have a difficult task, Zeke. I think the task is to be able to transfer your own understanding of what the fuck this is and why this is, onto the people that have a hard time understanding or feeling it, and then also prolonging it and having the ability to extend it just past the moment of like oh, I just met someone who's really cool and he has this energy and I'm idolizing him. We actually have a podcast last week about idolizing others and that's a fucking sin.

Everyone:

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? There's a lot of that.

Eldar:

Yeah, there's a lot of that right.

Zeek:

So it's almost like, how do you do that to empower an individual through your art, you know, and that's the difficult part that relies on that level of allowing a person to then experience themselves through that thing that opened the door, Like you know, if it's sort of like Okay, Like to put it in my own context, I guess when Pharrell signed with Louis Vuitton, that instantly like perked my interest in Louis Vuitton, which was there, but then when he signed himself to it as a creative director, it increased it drastically. Why?

Everyone:

He co-signed it.

Zeek:

Well, it was originally. He's taking the lead design role. Okay, so then that, in essence, like because I, I like who he was as an artist, I followed him. Yeah, that associated him. That associated him with that brand, which maybe wasn't as much before. And so there's the difficulty there in the idolization thing.

Eldar:

Yeah, because how do you actually know what the intention is?

Zeek:

Right, and you just, you can't always.

Eldar:

Yeah, because that's a dangerous thing. That's a dangerous thing, right? What if we just said and minimize Pharrell to saying Pharrell is black and he will bring black audience and he will design for the blacks? I'm just reducing it just for the sake of the. Let's just say at a tribal level yes, you know what I'm saying and that's like, almost, of using an individual to be able to get a very specific thing to get money out of, to continue the tribalism.

Mike:

Well, I think what you're describing is. I was just talking to my dad. He's like, oh, we're having a political debate with my dad, right, right, a political discussion, rather, and he's like you know, he's like, well, you know, this guy, elon Musk, he's a fucking Trump supporter. So, and Elon Musk, he's a genius, right, he is a genius.

Mike:

He is a genius, but he's a genius in what he does Does not give him the pass and all the other stuff. And A lot of times like, oh, Pharrell, LeBron James, Michael Jordan, they're good at basketball, they're good at music. It gives them the pass on a lot of stuff, but I think that is incorrect behavior because, yes, he's a genius in Tesla, electric cars maybe. Paypal, whatever he did SpaceX, yeah, but he doesn't know shit about politics, or basketball, or basketball or whatever the fuck else, and I think that a lot of times misconstrued.

Mike:

yeah, it's a bad thing where we get into a sticky situation giving people the pass when we shouldn't yeah, like now, we have to listen like right, if I'm a LeBron James, lebron James is my idol.

Eldar:

You know who LeBron James is? Right, oh, I love LeBron James and all this stuff. Whatever he says is gold. But the truth of the matter is, bro, he's a basketball player.

Everyone:

What are?

Eldar:

we talking about here bro.

Mike:

Did he fucking study politics?

Eldar:

Did he study philosophy?

Mike:

No he be capping. There you go he might be a good basketball player but he be capping.

DJ:

He's a basketball player, bro, he's a human.

Eldar:

Yes, thank you. How can he fucking tell us what to do regarding some other shit Like how to fix a car? He's no car mechanic. No, he's not a car mechanic, bro. He plays basketball. What the fuck does he know about putting in the wheels and changing brakes?

Zeek:

He doesn't.

Eldar:

But yeah, we learned to like trust these people as if they're like parents, you know, oh shit, tell Zeke a little bit about that?

DJ:

what did he just say trust?

Zeek:

is dead, it's dead.

DJ:

Harris.

Everyone:

Harris is about to cook right now.

Everyone:

I wasn't here let me tell you this you're on the fence about something and your friend says, oh, we can do this, you can do this, it's easy. Do this, it's easy. Trust me. I ain't trusting that, motherfucker. If you got to tell me, trust me.

Mike:

No, but you have to explain why. What is he actually saying when he says trust me?

Zeek:

Yeah. Why do you instantly go to doubt if someone says trust me?

Everyone:

It's like. Why do you question?

Zeek:

the affirmation of trust.

Everyone:

Because if I trust this dude, if I believe in him, if I you think they should have to say it, I wouldn't have no doubt. I don't think they should have to say it. If you're saying trust me, it automatically should bring in a red flag, like yeah.

Mike:

I wasn't here for that episode when they had this conversation, but the way I'm standing asking for trust is a violation.

Everyone:

You were here. I wasn't here. I think I was sick.

Mike:

No, you were sitting right there I was yeah, oh, I might have been drunk, I might have been tipsy.

Zeek:

Mr President, right there is an essence where, if I'm asking you to trust me, I'm trying to get affirmations on my own.

Mike:

It's that you're not competent enough to understand this, so you have to trust me. Wait a second.

Eldar:

You didn't do a good job.

Mike:

He did a terrible job. Bro, Are you serious? You said he wasn't here for the episode.

Everyone:

Say you're doing something with a friend, Okay. And they say and you're on the fence, Like this is probably not a good idea.

Eldar:

Like what. Trust me Like what.

Everyone:

Sitting on somebody's lap Right. What let's put it this way right Shoot a gun. Dudes let's put it this way right it's a dangerous fucking situation, whatever it is.

Eldar:

We're setting a fire onto the police station. Trust me, trust me, we got this.

Everyone:

Let's use. Friends. I committed my petty crime with. There's a kid. They're like, trust me, you know, it's cold out, it's fucking winter. Let my petty crime with as a kid. They're like, trust me, it's cold out, it's fucking winter. Let's bring a bunch of axe cans and some lighters to the woods at the sports complex. Oh my god, wow, so dangerous. We put axe, we lighted up a bunch of trees and shit.

DJ:

What about the people that you tied to the?

Everyone:

trees. We kept spraying axe on the fire Damn Okay. They said trust me, it'll be fine, it's easy. Trust me. Trust is fucking dead. I should have knew this was a bad fucking idea.

Mike:

You didn't explain, you just explained the situation with trust playing out.

Everyone:

I was like I don't know if this is a good idea, and they're like trust me.

Zeek:

That's an example of why trust is dead.

Mike:

Why is it actually dead?

Zeek:

Like what makes it.

Everyone:

I shouldn't have to hear. Trust right, if you're friends with a person and you get good vibes, you'll follow him to the end of the earth. Oh my God, because hey.

Eldar:

A flat earther.

Everyone:

No, you'll follow them. You'll follow them, you'll follow them. Makes sense, you don't need to think twice about going with them to these fucking places, right. But if they're talking about doing some stupid shit and you have to really think about it, yeah, I think he might have not been here for the episode.

Eldar:

Zeke, I'm going to explain to you one thing. A lot of the podcasts that we do have, harris gets cut off five minutes into the podcast. He can't drink, no more he can't drink.

Mike:

He's one beer queer.

Everyone:

Yeah, oh fuck you, I drank more than that.

Eldar:

Fine, Listen. The reason why we say trust is dead is because when you ask for someone to trust them, we say trust is dead is because when you ask for someone to trust them, you're insulting their reason and their ability to reason through the process that you are going through to know that something is safe and something is okay. So what you do is like, don't worry about it. I'm not going to tell you the equation of how this works. I want you to just trust me. You can just give them the answer me.

Mike:

It's like a blind trust. That's a blind trust without you understanding what's happening. They're telling you to trust me.

Eldar:

You're an idiot just trust me because I got it. You know what I mean. So there you go. This is the reason why actually this happens, where we think that trust is dead because, at the end of the day, don't use trust. Explain to me what the fuck do you mean by that, so then I can come to the conclusion that this is safe and you don't have to use trust against me let's see, but that's a different episode.

Everyone:

Let's use the bermuda trip as an example oh, here we go, the cliffs. Go ahead, talk to the mic. The cliff mike and eldar took me up there. Oh my god, who? The cliff Mike and Eldar took me up there? Oh my god, who On the cliff? Yeah, I was these two gay dudes. Fuck you, fuck you, but I was hesitant about jumping off. Right, it seemed high to me. Eldar explained it's 10 feet. Fuck you. Yeah, eldar explained to me it was high.

DJ:

Yeah, damn, it's a lot of fuck, you's yeah.

Everyone:

This is just how I am man. Eldar explained it's not that hot, it's 10 feet, and he jumped off. Mike jumped off and I'm like I thought about it. I'm like Eldar's not going to send me into a fucking dangerous situation.

Everyone:

With the sharks, and they jumped as well.

Zeek:

right, we jumped first of course Of course come on, look at this guy.

Everyone:

Well, eldar jumped first to make sure he was down there in case something happened. And I thought about it and I was like you know, he's not going to let me jump to my fucking death. And eventually.

Everyone:

I just said I really, really don't like you.

Everyone:

Yeah, and eventually I just said fuck it. And after Eldar I fucking jumped in Fuck. Eventually I just said fuck it, and after Eldar I fucking jumped in Fuck. No Fucking went. What's Anatoly saying? He's not going to fucking do it. He's not going to fucking do it, hey what's up, shaky legs, Yo what is the point.

Eldar:

What I'm saying is what the fuck point are you making? He's tipsy.

Everyone:

Oh, forget about it what I'm saying is he's didn't have to say to me hey, trust me.

Zeek:

Did he say it or no? No, I don't believe in that. I don't believe in that.

Everyone:

I thought for myself that Eldar is not going to take me off a cliff, that I'm just going to fucking go head first and fucking die.

Zeek:

It's almost like you almost might say trust me, because you're trying to confirm to yourself that what you're doing is a good idea. It's like on, we're gonna like, we're just gonna rub these guys like trust me it's trust me like I.

Mike:

I was saying I wasn't here for the episode. He's saying I was, but you were. He's got bad memory. I don't think I was here, but trust me is a way to say like yo uh, don't do the fucking mental work, I'll give you the shortcut yes, but it's like, in a way, offensive. Like yo, you're too dumb to do the short correct cut.

Everyone:

I got no time for you right now, instead of, like I was saying yo it's 10 feet.

Mike:

You're probably not gonna die. You may hurt yourself. This is the stuff. What are you like? What else do you think could happen? Yeah? Addressing the person's questions right, you know how to swim right. And then the person that they can do this, and it's not that serious there's a logic logic.

Zeek:

Yeah, what we're advocating for maybe, then, is like more explanation in those situations.

Eldar:

What we're advocating is that sure you can use the word trust, but at the end of the day, what I want you to be ultimately right elderism comes in is that I want you to be smart enough to not needing to trust anything. I need you to be as as skeptical as possible with everything that people are saying, but ask questions that get you to the point where you don't have to trust anymore because you actually know that when you do this, this will happen Right. Cause and effect. Cause and effect, cause and effect.

Everyone:

So at the end of the day, I'm just going to state I'm glad I fucking did it Because, as you know, I went home several fucking times to get fucking doing it.

Eldar:

You enjoyed yourself, just like I would.

Everyone:

You know, you just got to kind of live life and have fun.

Eldar:

That's all I'm going to say.

Everyone:

I'm saying a philosophy here.

Eldar:

No, you're not saying anything, just got to live life and enjoy a moment. No man, People don't understand this kind of shit. I told you this. What do you mean, bro? They don't understand this anymore.

Everyone:

Before I came back here, I probably experienced the most life I've experienced being here Good.

Eldar:

Thank you, Harris. That's a fair compliment. What did you think? Did you think it was going to be something different?

Everyone:

No, you know, we fuck shit up around here.

Everyone:

That's what's up. For the first six months of being here, I went to fucking Bermuda. Yo you went to philly went to philly went to the casino.

Mike:

What about that girl that did the thing she did you? She cleaned you out.

Everyone:

Her name was the goddess.

Eldar:

He got the release. Oh, All right so release All right.

Eldar:

So let's get back to what we're trying to fucking solve, because this is a fucking art is always fucking difficult for us when it comes to philosophy. How the fuck you transfer this shit over so that individuals actually feel what he feels, because, at the end of the day, right like he's, like yo, I'm empowered. This motherfucker got something because he has some kind of aura, a bubble around him that he now wants to pass on to the individuals that are perceiving his shit. How do you do it in a sustainable way? Do you want it to be sustainable?

DJ:

Yeah, I was about to say like does sustainability even matter? Yes, do you want?

Mike:

to do it for other people to like be able to I don't know recognize it, take it in, take it in, absorb it, like get energy from it. Or are you doing it because you just, you just like love it and you do it because you actually enjoy it just for yourself, or it's part of it is to share with others too?

Zeek:

I think initially. I know initially the brand was for me, but then you know, like I said, what I discovered, it needs to be.

Eldar:

Apart from why, there you go. How did it transition? Talk to me about why did it transition that you actually want to give back.

Zeek:

I noticed the energy of someone who's had a realization that they themselves have the capacity to create.

Mike:

Okay, it's again, it's the realizing. Maybe, again, it's not conscious. He may not talk about it yeah, in certain words that we may use or I may use, but he's saying that I know that I have a capacity to do something great which has happened, something I generally have love for, have a passion for, and with him being able to do that, it's like, hey, here's what I can do, you can do this too but you believe that, actually, that those individuals will that's why.

Zeek:

But you believe that actually, that those individuals will. That's not that extra process is out of my. Yeah, that's almost like too much for me. You know, if I was coaching someone like, yeah, different. Yes yeah, but if the intention here is to inspire at the surface level and then I mean that's very honest.

Eldar:

Thank you for that.

Zeek:

Yeah, but in saying that, that's where as well you can lose the longevity of people holding on to it. That's dependent on just.

Eldar:

And that's why I think that Zeke is dope, because of the fact that he acknowledged this and said that very candid when he's open to saying saying look, the truth of the matter is, this is a very surface. It's a hook. I'm gonna hook you and I'm gonna tell you what it is, but at the end of the day, you have your own life and your own life is fucking. It's bound by a lot of fucking barriers yep and not everyone is like about their life. Yeah, to be an artist.

Zeek:

You know people got to work, I quit all my jobs. Yeah, there you go, because it was. Whatever, it's the type of shit it takes. People say oh you're an idiot, yeah, like. Yeah, I'm one of the stupidest, for sure, yeah.

Eldar:

Amongst those yeah, yeah. So where does the encouragement come from? Like why, what the fuck, what's wrong with you?

Zeek:

That's a great question. I asked myself that.

Eldar:

Yes, thank you. I'd like to know.

Zeek:

They're looking at me like what is wrong with you? Yeah, like what's up.

Eldar:

Mike, one more beer, please, Thank you. Don't give me an attitude when you get it.

Zeek:

Okay, thanks, this is Mike the most?

Eldar:

humble guy ever, Ah hit me babe.

Zeek:

Mike is a very nice guy.

Eldar:

He'll give you the shirt off his fucking back, but he's a fucking too soft for the world.

Everyone:

He's my advisor.

Eldar:

Shut the fuck up.

DJ:

I'm so sorry I think everyone's a little softy here.

Everyone:

Yes, yeah, everybody's got their own soft side.

Eldar:

A hundred percent 100%.

Everyone:

I just want to state I mean the mood lighting as well, Zeke, when you said you quit your jobs and everyone's like are you fucking crazy? Are you stupid? My mom and my dad have been saying the same shit about working with Eldar. Who's paying you what? Who's paying me to learn Money?

Eldar:

Yeah, but in my dad's eyes, wait, wait, wait, don't just fucking brush this over.

Everyone:

Yeah, you did the butt thing.

Eldar:

You're paying you to learn.

DJ:

Explain to him what that means.

Eldar:

This is school okay, no, no, explain to him what that means.

Everyone:

It's to learn as a person but also learn a skill, become a productive member of society. But the way my dad People understand very specific things.

Eldar:

What Zik he comes here? He's been coming here for six months and he doesn't really bring into anything into the company.

Everyone:

I'm starting to bring it in.

Eldar:

Oh you, calm the fuck down. I just want to point out that's arrogance, I know, but let me get to it. Learning process takes some time right Onboarding yeah, thank you. Imagine, dj, you're not bringing anything to the company, but you're getting paid for it. We're investing into the learning process. You're not bringing anything, it's your whole. You keep digging the hole bigger and bigger and bigger. So there you go.

Everyone:

So. But the way my dad Six months my dad doesn't see so. But the way my dad Six months my dad doesn't see this right Because, okay, sure, I'm not making a lot of money right now. But the way my dad sees it when I started this job, he goes all right, if you're good at it, give it a couple months and then, if you're not, wait, because sales is not for everyone, okay. He doesn't see that I'm learning here, because sales is not for everyone. He doesn't see that I'm learning here. He doesn't see the money he thinks I should be making in my life. He doesn't think I should put in the time and learn something. He thinks I should start making that bank now, get a government job or do this. But guess what? I don't want a government job. I've had the government job. I worked for the postal.

Eldar:

I fucking hated it being that that was a government job in the army. That's a good. That's a good job, bro. Yo my man, what the is the point? My point is I like it here.

Everyone:

All right, they allow me to be myself. I think nothing again, right no, he's absolutely nothing I like it here.

Everyone:

I enjoy it here. Eldar pointed it out. He goes are you allowed to be yourself here? Absolutely, do you hang out with the boys? Absolutely? And I compared myself to friends who look like they're being successful and he goes listen, you're more successful than they are because they probably hate their fucking job. It's so stressful. But here you get to be yourself, you get to laugh with the boys, you get out, he's in school and he gets paid Hell.

Eldar:

No, thank you, dj. Have you been in school? That paid you? Not yet, oh.

Zeek:

I mean, you know what, guess what elder ism does this.

DJ:

Hey, miss, I'm you. Are you humble enough?

Zeek:

Did you go too much of an?

DJ:

edge. Nah, it's all, good, it's all good. Dj go too much of an edge yes, but the point is.

Everyone:

It's a good thing. I don't follow what fucking people say. I'm still here, you're still here I'm still here, I've gotten a shit ton from this. I'm learning. I'm learning a skill you're drinking on a job?

Eldar:

what the fuck?

Everyone:

okay, fine, yeah he takes care of his employees, yeah he's giving me a Tesla.

Eldar:

I didn't give you anything, you earning a.

Everyone:

Tesla. I'm earning a Tesla, but the point is he supplies you with everything you need to be successful.

Eldar:

Who is?

Mike:

this guy, this guy's good.

Eldar:

This guy's good Eldar Jeneve man.

Everyone:

Look him up.

DJ:

Fucking.

Everyone:

What's up Elderism man? They supply you with everything you need in life.

Eldar:

As long as you line up and sit on my lap once in a while. You know what I mean. And we kiss each other on the stomach. You know what I mean.

Everyone:

There and we kiss each other on the stomach. You know what I mean.

Eldar:

There ain't no baby oil up in here, you didn't like it when I kissed your stomach the other day.

Everyone:

There ain't no candy for you up in here man, All right, fine, fine, fine.

Eldar:

So all you're saying is that look, you're being slowly groomed yeah of your heart. You're being slowly groomed.

Everyone:

Always.

Zeek:

Yeah, elderism is going to take over the country, you hear that everyone, your point being that, among the judgment of your family, that same level of judgment that exists when I say I quit my job to do what I'm doing full-time yeah, my family don't allow that to change your yeah, your life my family feels like me.

Everyone:

Having this job is tearing me away from my family and it should zeke, yeah, and it should you know why?

Eldar:

because it's tearing you away yes, dj I it to you.

Zeek:

It's turning you into a human being.

Eldar:

Thank you, whoa Zeke. Why the fuck did you say that Zeke is a stranger? I've never met him before, even though you think he might be an actor that I employed. What, what did you say to him?

Everyone:

I paid him to make sure to come over here and say, like when I say elderism shit he's going to be like yeah, yeah, yeah, elderism, no, yeah.

Eldar:

The truth of the matter is we're trying to corrupt him. We're trying to corrupt his worldview as we know it, but through challenging him through reason. And the truth of the matter is Harris has something in him that's fucking magic to us. He has the ability to see it, sometimes get offended, but sometimes take it in and sometimes turn it into something good, and that's crazy to us, right? If Tully was here, he'd be like yo, alda, shut the fuck up. You know, time will tell Shit.

Everyone:

Like that He'll pat him down.

Eldar:

I like to give him compliments because of the fact that it is unique, it is special, but then again I also gave it to other people. Right, mike, I did. And I have this thing where the motherfuckers that get it, they get it. Something tells me that Harris gets it. He knows where he's at. Why are we challenging him? Why do we want him to be better, so he can succeed and flourish into?

Everyone:

something amazing and I tried to spread the actual elderism to my mom and we actually aired it on the podcast.

Eldar:

We did, and you know what she asked me.

Everyone:

I called my mom. I said hey, Ma, did you know? Trust is dead, oh shit. And I started preaching it to her. And the first thing she asked me, what did she ask me? Are you drunk, Are you?

Zeek:

high. Yeah, she went, Mama.

Everyone:

That's the thing your parents go. Then I called her again and said listen, eventually the that your children, you have to become your parents, wow, yeah and she again thought I was fucking nuts. Okay, and then, when I started explaining to her, and you can see that yeah, did you have any siblings as well?

Zeek:

oh, I, I have. Oh, you're red redneck.

Everyone:

I have three brothers and one stepsister and we're explaining that I've had a problem With one of my brothers. I've had a problem with several of my brothers.

DJ:

And Eldar has been trying. How's John doing? How's John doing?

Eldar:

John's listening to this shit.

DJ:

Oh, we're.

Eldar:

Yeah, he's listening.

Everyone:

What up, John?

DJ:

What's happening?

Everyone:

We're not gonna get into that Pull up. We're not Okay, but um, basically, that's the issue okay.

Eldar:

My mom's old school. Okay, we don't know what that means. She's ignorant, okay, oh, thank you, mike, you're welcome.

Everyone:

But he made a point when you're being raised, right, you're being taught your parents' views Okay, and Eldar pointed out that it kind of is sort of like brainwashing yes, their views, right. You grow up you believe in these views because you were taught it all your life and you have to really sit down and think about those views and figure out if you actually agree with them or not.

Eldar:

This guy's good, you see this.

Everyone:

It's a mushrooms token.

Eldar:

Yes, this is an example of what we're talking about when harris becomes president of united states in 2050. This is the type of that we're talking about you're fed all the from the media. You want to vote for me because I promise you that's it won't be no wait wait, calm down with the promises this thing is dead.

Everyone:

I'm just stating no, no, no, no, no.

Eldar:

I guarantee you it will not be no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I guarantee you it will not be bullshit.

Everyone:

No, no, no, you have to say this Harris, harris, harris, we have to revise it, you will guarantee yourself that Harris is the right candidate.

Eldar:

That's it. You know what I mean.

Zeek:

We have to rewire the minds. Uphold yourself yes To a guarantee.

Everyone:

Let me ask you a question when someone becomes president, how often do they complete their actual promises? They complete the release. How often do they actually follow their promises once they're in office? Harris?

Eldar:

very small percentage. However, when you become president, everything that you said will come true.

Everyone:

I know. That's why I'm asking.

Eldar:

You know why? Because we stand behind our word. Yeah, but that's why. I'm asking and we will do the right thing to make sure that the things that we do promise we have enough time to be able to complete.

Everyone:

DJ's laughing because he's like yo. They all say DJ's laughing because he's pretty toasted they always laugh bro.

Eldar:

They always laugh. But when this shit happens, when my motherfucker's president and he's doing the shit that he's doing and you're like yo, this motherfucker's the best motherfucker in the world, you're going to be young enough.

DJ:

I'm just high right now, Harris.

Eldar:

That's why you're enjoying yourself, bro, this shit feels good. No, this shit feels good, yes or no bro?

Everyone:

The point is these guys say whatever they want Once they get into office. Yeah.

Everyone:

But once Congress blocks one thing, they throw their hands, they're done.

Eldar:

Everybody In the room 500, 500 senators. How many senators?

Everyone:

Mike, help me hopefully. Congress Senate.

Mike:

I don't know how many. How many senators and congressmen there?

Eldar:

are Probably 400, I don't know.

Everyone:

You see, how big that fucking room is with those chairs, man.

Eldar:

When you start speaking, everybody's dick will be hard, but the point.

Everyone:

These guys will step down.

Everyone:

What I'm serious Shit is denied.

Zeek:

Putting something in the water.

DJ:

I'm saying no, no See. Come on, man, we're not drugging them, man. No, no, no, no, no, no, Guys guys.

Mike:

Yo.

Eldar:

Harris, I'm trying to fucking.

Mike:

I'm stating now your words will be so potent that their dicks will get hard.

DJ:

Why you gotta say that.

Eldar:

I gotta tweet this shit before I forget it. You know what I'm saying.

Everyone:

You gotta stop bro, we're gonna get a t-shirt of this. You gotta stop, bro. Yo t-shirt of this.

Eldar:

You gotta stop, bro. Yo Zeke, can you show DJ that new t-shirt? Show the t-shirt, zeke, that one right there, which is the one you got. Look at it, Yo DJ. What up baby, what up baby. And then on the back.

Zeek:

It's hard right On the back. You gotta say that Dix is hard.

Eldar:

Yes, that Dix is hard, yes.

Everyone:

Dix is hard. Yes, like everyone right here, dj has a place on my cabinet.

Eldar:

Yes that's it.

Everyone:

You be the black guy that we have to meet the requirements.

Eldar:

Affirmative action yeah, I'll help you with that Affirmative action.

Zeek:

You guys are cool, I'm gonna do the hat that says make America house again.

Everyone:

Yes.

Eldar:

Yes.

Everyone:

Zeke Yo Zeke gets it bro.

Eldar:

We can't use it cause it's too close to Trump. Fuck Trump, bro. Are you kidding me? By that time, in 25 years, he'd be dead. Most of them motherfuckers don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

Everyone:

Trust me, harris, don't worry about it. The point I was making. These presidents promised a bunch of bullshit that we should learn, learn what. First of all, you said nothing.

Eldar:

You're drunk. No, I'm fucking saying something they make promises that will never get true.

DJ:

Wait, wait, you're saying anything, they're saying.

Everyone:

They learn these presidents right? Joe Biden preached this bullshit. Sleepy Joe, ice cream, strawberry, alright, but the point is, I don't know if you ever watched the videos with Joe Biden.

Zeek:

I watched the one. They were talking about golf and they started competing about the golf.

Everyone:

You need to listen to his speeches because he talks about a lot of times ice cream and different shit that comes up. Harris hit us with it, but the point is, the politicians right now are complete bullshit. Thank you, they say what they want to say once they're in office.

Eldar:

Why would you be different, Harris? Why would you be different?

Everyone:

Because I'm going to open the eyes of the world.

Eldar:

No, no, no. You will be bound by integrity, and integrity will be so important for you that if you say something, you have to do it. Otherwise, harris, I'm going to tell you right now and Zeke will read my mind you know what will happen to you you will die.

Mike:

JFK.

Everyone:

The CIA man. Yo, he's going to shoot himself. Yes, no I give permission for the people to shoot me.

Zeek:

Oh, wow.

Eldar:

You see that that's deep, that's deep. You see that that's deep, that's deep. You see that that's respect Paris you see, he just cosigned himself in such a way that it's impossible to cosign, bro. Who would say that kind of shit, bro? That's why he's the truth. Yo, DJ, you know you're walking into this shit yo, Nah, I'm done.

DJ:

You got my vote right now. You got my vote right now yes.

Eldar:

One at a time, one at a time, yo, that's our slogan.

Everyone:

One at a time, one at a time.

Eldar:

Say it Harris, One at a time.

Everyone:

You have to let me out of here.

Eldar:

Yo, all right. So, zeke, let's get back to art. What the fuck are we talking about? All right, here's the big question right Podcast though.

Eldar:

Yeah, answer the question right. What I mean by that? Should we promote our ability to perceive art or should we promote our ability to make art? What I mean by that is that if we are all art right and like, we have the ability to see Harris, who's a redneck and whatever into something that is so unimaginable and the truth of the matter is he's the truth. But if we were to be honest, I think if we took anybody from the street or whatever, we have the ability to perceive that in them as well If we actually tried. Right through your compassion, it seems like you're a compassionate guy. Lots of times I've noticed that he's like, tries to play to the feelings of the individual that is speaking and when he feels like maybe their pain or whatever it is based on, maybe the wrong context, but nonetheless, he has that sorry, alright, cool yes until he figures out what it is and he's like yo motherfucking crack jokes the same jokes we crack, because that's what he's about.

Eldar:

so, mike, help me with the train of thought. So what I'm trying to say is that, look, is it the perceiver or is it the person who's trying to do the perceiving? You're asking about the promotion.

Everyone:

Yes, what should be?

Eldar:

promoted? What should be promoted? Who is it on? Is it the person who's creating the art or the person who's actually trying to perceive it? If it's on the person who's actually trying to perceive it, if it's on the person who's trying to perceive the art, then we are all special and we should just strive towards that by actualizing ourselves as gods and not just idolizing Zeke or Harris or Eldorism or whoever the fuck it is.

Eldar:

Because the truth of the matter is you all are magicians and I truly believe that, because my perception of what the fuck it is, because the truth of the matter is you all are magicians and I truly believe that, because my perception of what the fuck you're saying is actually, like, heightened- it's a conundrum, right.

Zeek:

It is because the world is kind of set up in a way where I feel like we're also geared to be perceivers and be like viewers Okay, like movies. Cinema, I agree.

Eldar:

We're always fed these things, so are you peddling just the perceivers and the fucking losers? I guess, in a way, I am Okay, thank you. That's fucking honest. You know why, and that's why I think Zeke is dope.

Zeek:

I definitely am, because I mean I'm creating for someone, yeah, but also it's like I said, I'm going to create no matter what, yeah.

Eldar:

No, and that's a good thing, but who the fuck is someone? They're nobody. That's a fucking hard thing to fucking jump over.

Mike:

No, but it's not. You just said the same thing we've said many times in different words. What's different about this? What you just said now versus natural selection and survival of the fittest, Not everybody's meant to right. Be the god of their own, of their lives. It's not their time right now. Go do your fucking thing.

Eldar:

Go fucking kill it, bro. And it sounds like you have good intention. It sounds like it. So if that's what it is and if it is to uplift individuals, go kill it out there, that's what.

Everyone:

I'm doing what I learned from you.

Mike:

Oh shit, you learned something. I learned something from you, Good morning you woke up.

Everyone:

I learned something from you To be your fucking self. Don't care what anyone thinks, because what they think doesn't matter.

Eldar:

Oh, wow, that's an insult, but thank you.

Everyone:

How's that mental?

Zeek:

Learning to accept your insult as grace what they think does matter. But how much does it matter to you?

Everyone:

What I've, what I've been trying to do most of my life was I don't care what people think. Okay, I really don't.

Eldar:

Yeah, except when you call your dad, who he spends a very long period of times in the house with and in the underwear.

Everyone:

Well, that's one thing I have been trying to figure out right Because I was always taught you have to respect. You can't act certain ways Like if I'm flying the F-bomb every fucking minute, he's like yo. What the hell is wrong with you? Why are you acting like?

Eldar:

Zeke. The truth of the matter is this motherfucker is vulgar. He is blunt and it's funny. We know how to perceive it as funny. Viewer discretion advised if you don't know him, maybe it can be a little bit cringe or intimidating. But he's fucking funny and it's a good vibe. We know how to fuck with it, we roll with it and we enjoy our time the only time. But the truth of the matter is he can't be himself outside of this room. As soon as he goes out there, he has to be a very specific person. Yes, yes, thank you. No, no, you know he's scared of the world. That's why he enjoys himself here. See, when he calls his dad, he's like yes, sir, I had no idea.

Everyone:

No problem, sir. I was that funny until I started coming on the podcast, joe came here. Yeah, joe was laughing up a story you've always told you you were hilarious.

DJ:

Yeah, that's the thing.

Everyone:

That's crazy, yeah you could just say that you people get that all the time. Oh yeah, you're funny. Like how funny you're a real funny guy yeah. And then Joe was coming on here, a guy I never met laughing his ass off. Yeah.

Eldar:

Zeke came on here laughing his ass off.

Everyone:

I started realizing that people that I never met fucking laughing, having a fucking great time yes, yeah, I never thought, because people that know you just fucking say, yeah, you're hilarious. You know, when half the time you say the same thing, they're really not dude.

Zeek:

That's the magic You're bringing someone into your world. You're like inspiring them.

Everyone:

Yeah, but the only way you realize that is people you've never met saying it. You know what I'm saying.

Eldar:

I think we have Alzheimer's.

Zeek:

I think we have. Yeah, we have this. We have like this Dementia. Yeah, we have like a conscious dementia. Yeah, we choose to forget, that's right. We choose to forget.

Eldar:

And I think there's a real good reasons as to why we do that Right Well, sadly, we're also limited, yes, by cognitive ability.

Eldar:

Yes, I think one yes, but I think it's a very specific belief system that holds us back from being able to be ourselves all the time. And if we can break through, like you're trying to do, right, you're saying, yeah, I'm trying to be whatever myself everywhere, you know, yo, I'm trying to be whatever myself everywhere you know, that I think is very attractive to an individual who is, for example, if paris right, like he's like yo, zeke, fucking traveling the world doing all this shit, jinko shit, you know what I mean. Like I vibe with that because he can't yet actualize that same thing. So he's like yo, this motherfucker's dope, you know what I mean. That same thing. So he's like yo, this motherfucker's dope, you know what I mean. So it's very interesting.

Eldar:

But I'm trying to be able to bridge the gap between your art, artwork and the things that you put out to individuals like Harris, be able to vibe with it and say, like this is inspiring, to then take that and apply it into their life in a prolonged way to actualize themselves as well. But you're saying that, look, truth of the matter is I can just kick start this thing and wherever it goes, it goes. If it doesn't go anywhere, or whatever.

Eldar:

It's all good yeah the matter is you can't be responsible for everybody's actions. Obviously you know what I mean, and that is what is art, and if that's what it is to me to elderism, it's cool. Does it do the job of what I'm trying to do? No, but it's a good start.

Zeek:

It is a good yeah, and maybe it's like it's a good start. It's not meant to do the job for that. Yeah, meant to do the job for that. Yeah. Elderism is your source for explanation in what the fuck?

Everyone:

is going on, yeah, yeah.

Zeek:

Skadoodle is not really that.

Eldar:

But I think it is. You just didn't define it yet, Right? Yeah, yeah, and I think the more questions I ask you about what the hell a skadoodle is, the more you'll come to the conclusion that yo, I'm trying to inspire motherfuckers and this is the equation. And if you took this equation into your life, you will feel the skadoodle that I feel. You're just trying to find the words.

DJ:

It's skadoodle, right, it's skadoodle.

Mike:

Skadoodle works.

DJ:

God damn it. Kazookin, hadookin, kazookin.

Mike:

Hadookin.

Zeek:

Hadookin, skadookin that's like his.

DJ:

Yeah, that's his aim.

Mike:

That's his aim, but your aim may be that, but it's not like the main, I guess, focus of it.

Everyone:

Yeah, eldar's philosophy, I feel, is opening people's eyes and making them realize what's really going on.

Mike:

Wow, Actually, you know what I was going to say. That made no sense at all. What do you mean?

Everyone:

I'm actually kind of His profit, his shit is realization.

Everyone:

I actually agree with you Real sense at all what do you mean?

Everyone:

his profit, his shit is realization, I agree with you realization yeah, he's made. He's opened my eyes on a lot of fucking shit and art has made me realize a lot of shit.

DJ:

Like music has made me realize, like looking at certain photos has made me realize.

Everyone:

Shit that you don't even realize is going on, is going on?

Zeek:

yeah, absolutely. Maybe it's also like the discernment of what matters in your life as well being able to understand does this matter? Does that matter?

Everyone:

I gave you a compliment.

Eldar:

I don't give a fuck about your compliments, bro, your shit your art is making people realize what's actually going on in this world. I'm not trying to make you use the word which is a rape word. You're raping others. Redo it, I'll give you a chance.

Everyone:

Help people realize what's going on in this world. Do you realize what you did before? Yeah, I did. What did you do? I do that often.

Eldar:

I use the wrong words. Why Can you explain to the audience so they understand where I'm coming from?

Everyone:

It's shit you're taught in this world. This is shit I learned throughout my life, and you're making me realize that it's possibly not the best words to use in that particular sentence. Okay, right, I explained that you opened my eyes to a lot of shit in this world that I never really sat down and really thought about.

Eldar:

Like what Give me one Like an actual thing, where it's like oh shit, this is cool, like, oh, this is different, this is art, all right, trust.

Everyone:

Okay, you made me open my eyes about that. Okay, you made me open my eyes about that. Okay, like, really, I in that podcast I literally sat there quiet for a minute, really had to think about it. Okay, wow, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, um, the parenting Okay, children becoming the parents. Yes, at first I was like you know, that's offensive to the fucking parents.

Everyone:

But when you really sit down.

Everyone:

It's like what happens when the parent gets older. Right, yeah, they move in with the kid. Yeah, they move in with their children. You help them, you drive them everywhere they need to go. It's everything they did for you when you were young, and then I came to realization with that.

Eldar:

Right.

Zeek:

I hope there were better explanations, but go ahead. Uh, it's kind of like an energy thing in a way. Right, it's like as a kid, you have all this energy like an exploding like ball of, just like fire, right, and then your parents have let like less because they know how to put like capacity on it. So their job is to like get you and like well, at least by contemporary standards like squeeze that energy into like a more condensed shape or like contain it into a container and then. But when you what's weird is that, I noticed, is when you get old again it's like the energy starts to come out again. Old people like to get freaky, they get funky and shit. They start doing weird shit. Oh yeah.

DJ:

Yeah, funky and shit, they start doing weird shit.

Zeek:

Oh, yeah, yeah yeah. I was sitting next to an old lady on the plane. She was saying some crazy shit.

Zeek:

I'm like I'm like 24, girl, you're not going to funk anymore. That's why you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but they get creative, they have capacity for more, like creative outlets, and whether that be, I think it's multiple things. It's the whole interplay of like oh, I'm old, now I have more time, less stress, I don't need to worry about making money. These are layers that stack on through midlife. They're heavy, they're pressing down on you. You got to pay rent, you got to pay mortgage, you got to pay kids Feed that as well. But in the beginning and the end those things are really relevant. So that's when you're at your most potent. I feel like.

Everyone:

But it doesn't have to be that way. He opened my eyes to say the media, you.

Everyone:

Social media. Like when I first came here, right, I watched Jackass, I watched all these stupid stunt shit and it makes you want to do it. Right, you look up to these fucking people, but you have to really think this is what they are. Right, they're called influencers because eldar pointed that out. They influence people's decisions, all right, and a lot of times it's met with bad fucking endings. Right, my mom shared shit Cause when I talked about this, she got worried because I was going to do stupid shit that these people are doing. She shared a thing where I think it was five teenagers got themselves killed doing fast stunts on a fucking boat. They influence your decision and I never really thought about it Like no, no, no, I just think that's cool, no, it's not. Yeah, that's the you open my eyes to really think about it.

Zeek:

That's the Joker card of life, right there.

Eldar:

If he was to tell you what opening his eyes actually meant. We actually had a stunt right here on the podcast where he said I'll cut my finger off. No, you said a stunt right here on the podcast where he said I'll cut my finger off.

DJ:

He said he wanted to have a thrill.

Eldar:

And guess what, zeke? You know what we're doing. We are here, we handle paper, we have paper cutters and stuff like that. So I said, okay, let's go over there next room and we'll try to cut your finger off and see if you're going to be able to put the finger out before I.

Everyone:

He couldn't gain the confidence to put the hand.

Eldar:

Yeah, you know what I mean.

Zeek:

That's it. But he went, you took him there.

Eldar:

I took him there and I said yo listen, harris, we're going to cut your finger off. Well, he didn't just look at it, he fucking pushed the thing down real fast. I said I'm not going happens to you and it happens to you. You accept this fate? He said yes.

Everyone:

He put objects right under it and fucking slammed the thing down real fast and showed me what the fuck it could do, Just so you're sure that it's not fake.

Zeek:

No magic this is it?

Eldar:

And guess what Zeke. The truth of the matter is, harris is not about that life. He chose life. Yeah, and that's a good thing for me, because that's what I'm promoting.

Everyone:

Yeah, and that's a good thing for me, because that's what I'm promoting.

Eldar:

I don't want this fucking stupidity here.

Everyone:

He also used the war as a kid.

Eldar:

I wanted to join the military. He wanted to jump off of fucking roofs. He wanted to fucking go to war. I wanted to serve my country.

Everyone:

Because growing up, serving your country was the ultimate thing you could fucking do. Yeah, they teach you that, and Eldar opened my eyes to that. He goes all right, I'll give you a gun right now. You can go fight in Ukraine. I'll buy him the best gun.

Eldar:

Buy me the best fucking gun, the best? Yes, go fight, go fight. I will send you over there, you are no problem. I have people right now that can send you to Poland and transfer you from Poland to Ukraine on front lines to go fight with Ukraine.

Everyone:

Well, anybody can really do that. They can show up to Poland, go right to the border and say, hey, listen, I want to fight, I'm here to volunteer, yeah, and guess what he's not about that line but growing up.

Everyone:

I wanted to join the military. I wanted to go to war. I wanted to fight the war on terror because, yeah, it was fed to us as kids. This happened. The ultimate thing you could do is serve your country. You see the commercials and all that different shit. You're seeing them carry the guns. You're seeing them help people. You're seeing them go and you think, oh, my God, this is the best thing ever the Marine Corps does that. They're like you get to wear this awesome uniform, you get to hold this gun, shoot this shit.

Zeek:

They wouldn't serve your country. They didn't do it.

DJ:

Hey, I'm not even going to hold you, me too, bro, for a little while.

Eldar:

Yeah, you know, they got you. They got you Almost, oh shit.

DJ:

Almost.

Zeek:

Nah, they talk about the benefits they show.

DJ:

I was trying to travel.

Everyone:

I'm trying to see the international At the end of the day, the benefits won't help you once you're dead.

Zeek:

That's the end of the line. It's either that or PTSD. Lose your legs.

DJ:

Lose your arms, you can't even jerk yourself off. I know a guy from high school.

Everyone:

Got his leg blown off by the IED, but he still swears to this day it was the best decision he ever made.

Eldar:

You don't know that guy, it's a made up character. No, it's not fake news.

Mike:

Alright, let's get back to the point as Harris was rambling about absolutely nothing, I realized something like what he's being sold on is a dream rambling about absolutely nothing. I realized something. Yeah, like what he's being sold on is a dream of an ideal right Of a courageous guy.

Eldar:

Skadoodle might be selling.

Mike:

He might be selling the same thing.

Eldar:

Skabooby Skadoodle.

DJ:

Now we're drunk. What they do is they sell you on something which is actually yes, it's Kaboom.

Zeek:

Yes, now we're drunk.

Mike:

Now we're drunk. Yeah, boobay. What they do is they sell you on something which is actually extremely amazing, which is to be courageous, to be honest, to be brave, but what they don't explain to you or what you don't understand is like hey, it's actually courageous to do a lot of other stuff. No, you can explain you can be courageous, and being yourself is already a courageous thing, no, nobody fucking says that shit. To be honest, it's the courageous. To be your true self is courageous Facts.

Eldar:

But they try to sell you on this huge image which is so fancy and all that stuff, take a gun that shoots very fast bullets out of them into a target and say that you're a fucking accomplice. Yeah Well, I'm telling you, call your dad and say that your friends would like to come for a barbecue.

Mike:

He's afraid to do this, yeah, and that's the thing my dad is not a people. I don't want to fucking do it, they're chasing the stuff that people do actually want to be. People want to be the best version of themselves, yeah, but they don't realize that, hey, it's just as courageous to call your dad as it is to do something. Thank you, like what? You're saying to do something.

Eldar:

What am I asking for? I'm asking him to put his life on the line.

Everyone:

When you really look into it the military it's fake. I'm going to say it. Stop jerking them off. I'm going to say it. It's kind of brainwashing. Oh shit, because Get to the boot camp. What's the first thing they do? They start fucking screaming at you. They break you down, you need a book. They break you Huh, you need a book.

Mike:

He needs to write a book. You need to write a book. They break you down.

DJ:

He needs the book, he needs to write a book. You need Tommy to write your book. How about?

Mike:

that he needs to mark this journey.

Everyone:

You break this journey. They break you down and they build you into a war fighting machine that will kill on behalf of the country. That's right. They erase everything you learned in life.

Eldar:

Which is rightfully so. That's what they're supposed to do.

Zeek:

It's their job. Let's not mark them as bad.

DJ:

No, they're not bad. This is what they need.

Eldar:

They need individuals who have the ability to do very specific tasks on their behalf. Would you like to be that person? When I asked him that question, he's like I don't even want to cut my finger off.

Mike:

No, he just wants to eat good food, that's right, drink good alcohol and fuck Bermudian goddesses, that's right. I don't care about anything else, bro. Yeah.

Everyone:

That's right. I don't care about anything else, bro. So the way I was pointing it out, in kind of the way, as you put it, you're erasing all the shit I learned. That is stupid and irrelevant. I'm trying and trying to build me into a better person.

Eldar:

Harris, that was very good the way you put it. However, I hope that this was happening, but the truth of the matter is, I'm trying to build you into that which you yourself agree with and that feels good for you. That is the most important thing. That, if it doesn't align with your character and who you actually are, who you feel comfortable with, yes, I don't want it, I don't want it, but the truth of the matter is that the role that he's in right now, I think that he's in a proper role.

Mike:

He's in the best role that anybody could be in. That's right. It's the journey to becoming your true self. Yes, and embracing it, yes, hey mom called last night.

Everyone:

Yeah, yeah, she gave a complaint to you. Yeah, she, yeah, she gave a complaint to you. Yeah, she gave me a complaint, so you didn't perform the job. No, she told me to tell you to stop being a little bitch and complain about every little thing.

Mike:

Oh, that's not what I heard from her.

Everyone:

I heard you saying you did a bad performance what you don't know here, dj, is put me on, I'm with everyone's mom, oh word, she's fucking all our moms.

Eldar:

He's giving them a go-go.

DJ:

I'm keeping families together man.

Mike:

I'm keeping their families together. Man, the bull from New Jersey strikes again.

Everyone:

Yes, I give them a safe spot to have a good time with the young bull man.

DJ:

That's what's up. He's doing God's work, man. Spreading the love, spreading your seed, Guys.

Eldar:

Zeke asked a very good question. Let me read it one more time for you guys, and let's try to see if we can tackle it. What can we learn from allowing ourselves to be absorbed by our passions? What can we learn from allowing ourselves to be absorbed by our passions.

Mike:

I mean that's a good question Now that we thought about it, I have a better answer. Yes, okay, now that we spoke about it, it will allow us to reach the truest, highest essence of what a human being can achieve. Wow.

DJ:

And enjoying it.

Eldar:

Why did you ask that question, Zeke? Because I questioned the question. Yeah, I don't have the answer Can you expand it a little bit, but I believe that I'm on the path to it in a way.

Zeek:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, expanding on the question, I feel like it's Like why did you say that shit? Because that's profound. Yeah, yeah, but I feel like life is profound.

Eldar:

Agreed, yeah, and that question aligns with that. It's profound. Help us with it. Like, why did you say that shit? Cause that's that's interesting To inspire inspired thought.

Zeek:

Oh, wow, okay, you know like cause. I think I don't have the. I'm questioning yourself, I'm questioning the quest that what I see in my environment as well. So my expression is, like me trying to mold the clay.

Mike:

Is it relative to your life? Is that why you asked it?

Eldar:

I'm trying to mold the clay. Is it relative to your life? Is that why you asked it? I'm trying to make sense of your world. I think it's.

Zeek:

That's also an explanation of my world. Okay, let's just then go off of your question. Are you absorbed by your passions, like probably to an unhealthy degree? Wow, yeah all right.

Eldar:

So give us a little bit like what is it that you do? Like what is it that like what? What entails that I?

Zeek:

I mean I, guess you completely absorbed into it To the degree where it's like if someone there's been situations where people have questioned my craft and, regardless of what that is, everybody's open, everybody's down to critique what I do as well. Yeah, and we're doing that right now. Yeah, yeah, 100%.

Eldar:

We're judging the fuck out of you.

Zeek:

It's like in a healthy way you know, it's when it enters into the unhealthy sense, like people see the creativity and perhaps try and take advantage of that. What do you mean by that? There's a lot as a freelance artist where you can open yourself out to people and just in general, you know when you yeah, in general, you just do a lot of and you do a whole lot of work for people who Don't really, who are just taking yeah, you explain yeah.

Zeek:

What I realized with that is that, like a lot of the time, it's just, it's maybe not that that person means that level of disrespect. They just aren't aware they aren't aware.

Eldar:

Can't you outwork them?

Zeek:

Yeah, and that's up to you Right.

Zeek:

If you could outwork them, then who gives a fuck? It's sort of yeah, that's how you need to move. I'll acknowledge that and be like it is what it is Keep moving. Where do we go from here? It's all about where do we go from here. I feel like if we have a problem, how do we solve from here? Yeah, it's all about where do we go from here. I feel like if, if we have a problem, how do we like, how do we solve it? Not like take a step back, like because there's no going back. Yeah, you just got to keep moving forward. Interesting, but I mean what you asked, um, what did you ask exactly before?

Everyone:

yeah, so you live in your uh, the alzheimer's is kicking in there. So you live in your. The Alzheimer's is kicking in, man.

Zeek:

See, it's true, it's true, we forget, like some of the things, some tests that, some questions that test your character as well, like you choose to kind of forget or just Wow, it's like a gray area.

Eldar:

Zeke is dope. That's the fucking title of this podcast.

Everyone:

Zeke is dope Zeke is dope.

Eldar:

You know what I'm going to tell you right now. Aside from the artists, aside from all the bullshit, the gear, all the stuff right, what I'm perceiving at least what I would like to support is him being honest, the fact that, like yo I don't know I'm trying this shit, but the truth of the matter is, I don't know, the fact that, like yo, I don't know I'm trying this shit, but the truth of the matter is, I don't know. So I'm betting on the fact that this motherfucker has enough humility that I'm perceiving and I'm feeling that he has humility and I fuck with that. And I think my nigga Ilya and I don't usually use the word nigga, my nigga- for a long time.

DJ:

You know what I'm saying.

Eldar:

I haven't used that for a while. Yo yo Trump is the president, motherfucker.

DJ:

My nigga DJ.

Everyone:

DJ sit down before we fucking send you back to the fucking.

DJ:

Philippines bro.

Everyone:

You're not giving him the pass.

Eldar:

No, fuck that.

Everyone:

I'm sending this motherfucker to the Philippines. My nigga, you don't give over the past.

DJ:

Yeah, the past, of course.

Everyone:

The past, there's no past man, he don't understand that shit he knows fake news man.

Eldar:

So what I'm saying is if Ilya has the ability to tune in that and see that and feel that shit is dope. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. That's like that's the message I'm feeling from Zeke, aside from everything else his perception of understanding. He's as confused as I am about art, which is fine, but he knows to admit the fact that he don't know. I fuck with that Zeke. Good shit, bro, thank you.

Eldar:

I fuck with you all as well yeah, like you know what I'm saying, like that's big for us. You know what I mean. If you came here With the arrogant energy, we would've tested it, we would've felt it, we would've known like.

Everyone:

Yo, this motherfucker, they would've put you in your fucking place.

Eldar:

Oh yeah, so so. So is, the motherfucker Elliot knows something, or he's asking for something.

Everyone:

No, I gotta ask a question.

Eldar:

Because Elliot hit me up. He's like yo put him on because he's there. See what's up? That's my boy.

Everyone:

I gotta ask a question, man. He saw something. I gotta ask a question when do you find people that blend so well into the podcast? You brought Joe in. Joe did a fucking great job. Zeke here did a great job. What the fuck is going on, man? Who do you think?

Eldar:

is doing the great job, motherfucker.

Everyone:

I get it, but how do you find the people that blend in well in the podcast?

Eldar:

Yo you about elderism, or not? Man, yeah, man. So shut the fuck up.

Zeek:

I'll ask you some questions man, the energy you put out is the energy you attract.

Eldar:

Yes, 100%.

Zeek:

You know this, you're going to attract that?

Eldar:

People are gonna be like. You got one. I stereotype Zeke bro. When I saw his Instagram I was like this motherfucker does drugs. He's about to drink with us. We're about to chill. He said motherfucker, I don't drink. I'm like, oh shit, this is the sober motherfucker that I used to be.

Everyone:

I know what time it is on. I'm not gonna lie. When you walked in, I thought yo this motherfucker is about to get lit, yeah, yeah.

Zeek:

You know, true, true. Hey, I'm not ruling stars and deaths off the table, but I've never had a situation.

Eldar:

No, no, no. So what I'm saying is like, look, I think the common black, white, whatever the fuck it is, australia, america, whatever it is humility is humility. And if the end result of his, his work, is that, that humility, like yo, look, I know what I'm doing, I'm trying to do this, but I don't know. That's fucking cool shit. If you can fucking transfer that to people, that's dope as fuck. If they can fuck with you on on the thing, we're like yo, that's cool as fuck. Yo, yo, he's inspiring me, but I know that it's like we have to be careful. That's dope as fuck. If they can fuck with you on the thing where, like yo, that's cool as fuck. Yo, he's inspiring me, but I know that it's like we have to be careful. That's cool shit.

Zeek:

Like just to be cool on the premise.

Eldar:

On the surface yeah, on the surface, but know that like this is it. And then there's more deeper stuff that we can talk about, asking real hard questions about who you really are, what you're really about, Because at this point right, when we start getting into that kind of stuff, right, we hurt each other. I'm going to tell Harris yo motherfucker, you're a dumbass, what are you doing? And that's okay man, and that's okay, right, because then we're really talking about changing our lives.

Everyone:

That real shit, that real shit, that real shit, man you know, Eldar has always been like this man Calls it out how he sees it, man. Thank you, harry. Has no fucking filter. He will tell you how it the fuck is.

Eldar:

But I hope I have a translation as to why I do it and I hope that Zeke understands it.

Everyone:

Yeah, you always try to better yourself and a lot of times people don't agree with you at first yeah, especially parents.

Eldar:

Yeah, they're not supposed to. I'm supposed to be the person that corrupts the youth. You know what I mean.

Everyone:

I'm supposed to be that person and he made sure to start, mr.

Zeek:

President, yes, the youth that's how we're gonna fuck shit up.

Eldar:

I think you fucking shit up already. You know what I mean. I see it and you see, we fucking shit up too, but on a different level.

Everyone:

Not many people know us, but for now, but when they do, the people that need to know us know us right now.

Mike:

Wow, that's good that's good, that's good, yo like yeah, mr President.

Eldar:

DJ hit me up like yo, I miss you, bro.

Everyone:

I wanna come through you know what I'm saying. He knows what time it is.

Eldar:

You and June, only guys that stop by from YP man, what the fuck you need to calm down, I'm just saying I just say that there's a person that I've met in the weed shop that is coming through, that you have no idea who I met. It's crazy. She's coming back, yes.

Everyone:

Who's coming?

Eldar:

back. I'll hit her up next week. You'll see her who's coming back.

Zeek:

I'm not telling you, I'm not telling you the cliffhanger.

Everyone:

She been on here before.

Eldar:

No, she's new, but it's going to be good, all right so.

Everyone:

Is she hot?

Everyone:

Listen. Yeah, I think it's going to be ecstatic. That's what I mean. It's the timing.

DJ:

It's the timing you don't understand.

Eldar:

He's on point. He's on point.

DJ:

Everybody's dicks Will be hard After Harris.

Everyone:

Yeah, am I gonna be Licking my chops or pulling a wisdom man? You will.

Mike:

Do everything You're gonna take her, take good care of her.

Eldar:

You're gonna take her deep.

Everyone:

You're gonna take her deep Bro, you're gonna take her deep, you're gonna get a release.

Everyone:

Oh yeah yeah, she's down with the and I think she's dope as Deep. Bro, you're going to get a release. Oh yeah, yeah.

Eldar:

She's down with the and I think she's dope as fuck too.

Everyone:

For something tells me she's dope as fuck, and you just met her at the weed shop. I just went to the weed shop, yes.

Eldar:

I did. And I saw her and I was like yo, this is crazy. Yeah, yeah, I hope you're enjoying the fucking shit. Yo, man Zeke is out here. He's fucking killing the shit. I love the kid Kid is good, you know what I mean Hold on.

Everyone:

Yo shut the fuck up, man, I'm just saying whoever's listening to the podcast let's get some funding for the tattoo man. Can you stop begging? Why are you begging?

Eldar:

I'm not begging man. Can you stop begging why?

Everyone:

are you begging? I'm not begging man the tattoo is already funded.

Eldar:

my man, it's funded. What do you want? You already know what it is. What do?

Mike:

you want Zeke's tattoo. You want that tattoo.

Everyone:

I said I'd fucking do it, man Done.

Eldar:

Done Straight up. Done Zeke, that tattoo on his chest is done. Thank you.

Everyone:

Send the fucking files.

Eldar:

My man right there is going to do it.

Everyone:

We're going to set it up.

Everyone:

People are going to ask what the fuck is that what People are going to ask what the fuck is that?

Eldar:

Yeah, I hope you have the ability to explain to them what the fuck Zeke's talking about, and then they won.

Zeek:

Yeah, At some point he's going to know.

Eldar:

Talking point. Let's go. That's what the fuck. What was I saying before you fucking interrupted me?

Everyone:

You were telling Ilya about his boy man. Is that how you say it, ilya? Thank you, yeah.

Eldar:

Ilya, Ilya man, this motherfucker knows some shit. I like it. Stick with it. Is Ilya a helping hand where he's like so selfless he could give you the shirt over his back?

Zeek:

He's one of those cats.

Everyone:

That's crazy.

Zeek:

I'm paying for that shirt, even if he doesn't ask for cash, because I believe in that.

Eldar:

He is the truth, bro. Like the way I've known him, he's always been that guy. You know what I'm saying. But unfortunately his people-pleasing has gotten to a place where he's at.

Zeek:

It does happen like that because the game is a game.

Eldar:

Yeah.

Zeek:

And if you're trying to play for free.

Eldar:

Yeah, and he's been doing that for a very long time.

Zeek:

But I've been telling you You've been, I've been Good Because me I'm done being played, all right. Good, I'm calling out motherfuckers as well right now. Good, you ain't playing Zeke, no more. Good, all right. Good Because I got to stand up for freelance artists as well. Yeah, because people think they can play freelance artists.

Everyone:

Yeah.

Zeek:

And like when it comes to their creative, yeah, that side of things All right, cool, yeah, it's important. But it's also a process of education, because the people who play you are also just, they're just not aware you know. They're like, oh, they just take it for granted, so you kind of have to. Yeah, that's the logistics.

Eldar:

That's awesome. And how'd you learn that? Like did you just get fed?

Zeek:

up, you got to get, you got to fail Because I've been self-taught right.

Eldar:

So it's a matter of, like I had to experience this and be like why did I fuck up so bad there? It's like, oh, this, this, this, this person didn't know this and make them sign this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, good, good. So Elliot has been the brunt of all those jokes yeah, for a very long time, as you can see my man can do it all, he's really good, but he never stood up for himself.

Eldar:

He had that low self esteem you know what I'm saying where he didn't unfortunately put himself a little bit, you know, above others and he gave everything, everything, everything. I think he's a little bit bitter right now.

Zeek:

Well, he was taught by who he trusted someone important in his life. That that's the way to be when you, when you.

Eldar:

I'm going to tell you right now he's a little bit arrogant and I hope that you can transfer that message to him and I hope that you can kick a little bit. You know, kick his ass a little bit, you know what I mean, and bust his balls a little bit, where that arrogance, the way he is like he knows everything or whatever, did not serve him. Well, you know what I mean and I hope that he can put that down.

Zeek:

I'll take it upon myself to employ that.

Eldar:

It's hard Motherfucker's stubborn, but he knows his shit. He's a fucking good one to argue with.

Zeek:

You know what I'm saying? All right, yeah, it's never felt like it's constructive argument. Yes, argue with him.

Eldar:

Yeah, Fight with him. I need you to fight with him If you need to get into a fist fight. He's a fucking sturdy motherfucker. He'll probably fuck me up. He'll probably fuck you up.

Zeek:

It's one of those situations I gotta know you might need to fuck him.

Eldar:

Just clenched my jaw and just yeah, no, he's a bad motherfucker.

Everyone:

You know what I?

Eldar:

mean, but I haven't had the time or chance to punch him in the face.

Everyone:

If I see him.

Eldar:

I'll fight him, I will fuck him up.

Zeek:

You look like you do some jiu-jitsu.

Everyone:

Oh damn, that's a call-out up on here, boy Billy get in the house.

Eldar:

So you know, take it upon me and go fuck him up. You know what I mean, Mentally and physically. I got the elder card 100%.

Zeek:

He's like oh, what the fuck I'd be like elder. Tell me, bitch. That's a message from Eldar, and this is why, you know what I'm saying.

Eldar:

Because I think that he's got you know what I mean and those two has played so much an effect on him. I mean, we've talked about Michael for a very long time. The same shit, you know. I don't know if Ilya has struggled with relationships, mike struggled with relationships and the same thing where he was people pleasing so much. You know what I mean that now he's trying to play catch up as to who he is and trying to have fun and I'm so excited that he met you, bro.

Eldar:

You, I'm so excited that he met you, bro. You know what I mean. That you're about you're so dope, that you're about fun, You're about to have, you know, enjoy yourself and trying to pass it on to people. And if it's, if he's fucking with that like I'm, I'm all about it.

Zeek:

Yeah, yeah, I'm going to see the whores of America.

Everyone:

Yeah, shut the fuck up where the whores are what's your route like in America?

DJ:

where are you going about in America?

Zeek:

it's been mostly in New York right now and then, like I said, I'm here till the 14th this area, new York and then I have a friend in Missouri as well, seth, who's like very humble, very like Rick Rubin style character. I don't know if you guys know Rick. Rubin yeah, that's sort of like down to earth. Yeah, very much like that. So that's sort of going to be the juxtaposition against the New York sort of busyness.

DJ:

If I have it my way, yeah, like Rick Rubin.

Zeek:

Because of Missouri, like Springfield, that sort of area. But I mean personally, I feel like I should stay in this New York. Just this potency, this melting pot, definitely For the end of my stay. Definitely Because it's like damn I'm here. Yeah, like it's like if it's D-Day.

DJ:

Where you been at in New York Like you been out by, like Prince Central Park. You been by Prince, hit me by a prince. Where was that? Prince Street, or I think is that what it's called where all the there's like a there's like a consecutive it's like Prince Street Canal Street by Canal Street.

Zeek:

Oh, I know that I've been down that way. Is it? Where's that near like Broadway? You're using Broadway as like a Broadway is a crossing street.

DJ:

only Mike can help you guys out with this. True, only Mike can help you guys out with this, true Mike.

Eldar:

I'm terrible in New York.

DJ:

City.

Everyone:

You work there, bro, every day bro, I know, but I try to get the fuck out immediately.

DJ:

Immediately is too much for me.

Zeek:

If you're there working different, I'm there like a tourist, I'm like. This is why I don't even remember where I've been.

Eldar:

Of course, man, I'm like blah, blah blah. We don't expect you to.

Zeek:

But I've been up and down Broadway and then the next couple of streets, all the way down, all the way up Central Park, just hella, putting different gems and just soaking it up while I can Getting my New York tan.

DJ:

Yeah for sure you got good weather, man, it's crazy. Yeah, this is October, it's supposed to be brick, brick, cold People are saying they get the best weather right now and I'm like that's crazy good time yeah you did come in again because it's supposed to be cold as right. It's supposed to be cold as, yeah, bro, you have, and you, I remember it snowing on multiple halloweens, yes oh, that's crazy.

Zeek:

Yeah, it's been like it's been like hot.

DJ:

No, it's good yeah, exactly, so this shit is way different. Global warming it's climate change. I don't know about global warming.

Zeek:

It's kazoodle change.

Eldar:

Alright, guys, what do we have here? Did we answer his question, man?

Zeek:

What can we?

Eldar:

learn from allowing ourselves to be absorbed by our passions.

Everyone:

What can we learn about ourselves? I haven't figured that out for myself. Alright, cool, you might be in the best version of yourself by our passions.

Eldar:

What can we learn about ourselves? I haven't figured that out.

DJ:

All right, cool, that's very nice, that's very nice, you might be in the best version of yourself.

Zeek:

What's important to us.

Eldar:

Yes, that we can learn through being absorbed by our passions. If we've discovered what our passions are, it's a very good question what can we learn? What does it give us?

Mike:

Mike? What does it give us, mike? No, I said it. I think it's to me. The way I think about it is it's reaching the highest potential that we can as humans, because, in order to follow your, passion.

Eldar:

What is that? What is that? What is that? Yeah, what is that?

Mike:

It's the ability to tap into the best qualities that we have as humans.

Eldar:

How does that feel?

Mike:

How does that feel? Feels like falling in love. Best qualities that we have as humans. How does that feel? How does that feel. Feels like falling in love. Holy fuck, Mike. But, not only with like another person, but like falling in love with yourself, Wow. And then wanting to share that love with everybody else Wow. It's like you know, the best thing that exists in life and you want to yell at everybody from the rooftops Is that Skadoodle. That's Skadoodle.

Zeek:

That's Sk Because, like I've been saying this as well, it's like you have to learn how to love yourself before you can actually love someone else.

Eldar:

Yeah otherwise it's a twisted love.

Everyone:

Why are you on your phone? You know this no.

Eldar:

Yeah, that's crazy. It it's like falling in love and feeling experiencing of love. Zeke, you want some shit. Yeah, I like it. Thank you, sick question. That's a sick question.

Mike:

Where it came from is interesting.

Eldar:

It is interesting. Yeah, that's his question. Yeah, it's a good question. It's a good answer. Yeah, that's his question, yeah it's a good question. It's a good answer. Yeah, it is a good answer, Mike.

Mike:

Anyone else?

Eldar:

has a take on that answer?

Mike:

What do we experience when we actually absorb ourselves in that fashion, this one's not for you man, this question's not for you, just forget about it.

Eldar:

Do me a favor. There are, you can phone a friend. It's like he wants to be a millionaire.

Mike:

You could phone a friend. Who would you like to call? You can call me if you want. Oh, you can call him. He can help you out. Let's go.

Everyone:

Call him Put on speaker and call him no fuck you what Call him, man?

Eldar:

You have his phone number.

Everyone:

Fuck you.

Eldar:

Listen, let me try to take a stab at it To some degree. It's like euphoria. It's like yo like if you can really tap in into the focus that you should be doing and you really like. It's like whoa, it feels so good. It's like euphoria. It's like you're saying, like it's falling in love, not with yourself, but the process, the world right, everything that it is. That is, which is a crazy phenomenon.

Mike:

But the question you have to ask of yourself is like what do you do right, I guess, to fulfill that this thing? To continue it right, well yeah, like what do you do that contributes to that ability to tap into that.

Eldar:

That's a different question, Mike.

Mike:

Calm down with that. That's very hard and that's for next question. Like, calm down with that.

Eldar:

That's very hard and that's for next time, next time he comes over here, yeah yeah, would yeah would, but yeah, it's like what happens to you, and the truth of the matter is it's like it's a profound experience, probably it's probably on the lines of transformation from a, a monkey, to a human and then the next level.

Mike:

Yeah, If you're able to do that on a consistent basis, then you transform from a human to a God. There it is. Is that what he feels?

Eldar:

Is that what you're saying, he? Feels, Don't fucking lie to me, DJ. That album was crazy, bro. It's amazing. I love that album. Damn, that's what I mean. Undeniably amazing, but I love that album.

Zeek:

Damn, that's what I mean. Undeniably good. But is he crazy? Yeah, fully, but that's the thing. But is it totally crazy? But is it good? That's the art.

DJ:

There we are again.

Zeek:

Okay, but does it hurt? Always? It's like the realization that self-love should, it is the way forward. Yeah, yeah, because life is painful. Think about it no, it's not well you learn how to deal with it, are you?

Eldar:

are you having a good time?

Zeek:

I'm having the best time I haven't stopped. It's the, it's painful. I don't know when it's gonna stop so what are we? Talking about here? Well, I guess we're talking about life no, we're talking about love.

Eldar:

I think you we're talking about love. I think you're having a good time. I'm having a good time too, right? You're a cool guy and I'm exploring you, but I'm also doing me. You know what I mean, and I'm having a really good time, so there's no pain in this. I'm jizzing all over myself.

Mike:

What is wrong with you? I'm sorry.

Eldar:

I have a very small dick that goes inside my ass. Internalized jizz.

DJ:

Yes, you know what. I'm saying Internalized jizz yes Son of a bitch.

Eldar:

Yeah, this is what I'm saying, so I'm not sure. If it's painful, it's supposed to be really good. Your art's supposed to be really good, like, is that what we're talking about, mike? Are we talking about this type of actualization that we can do it for a prolonged period of time, for a very long time, to know who we are?

Mike:

But I think, in order to be able to tap into it always, you have to. You know your shit you have to in order to tap into it in a more consistent and constant. I think it requires a lot of humility and minimal attachments to all the desires. Why do you say that? Because desires are distractions Fuck.

Eldar:

Fuck. So that's why, when Harris has that humility about him and making fun of himself, we're like yo this shit is dope. We like it because it resonates to our core. When Zeke is saying yo, honestly I don't know the answer to it and that's okay. And we feel that, like yo, this motherfucker is genuine, he's genuine. We feel that, well, the truth is undeniable yeah, the truth is on that.

Mike:

You know, like, sometimes, like, uh, like, I'm watching the show right now, yeah, you know, yeah, and I see there's some moments, right, this is like, uh, this love is blind, you're, or even maybe a lot, uh, love, island is a lot, a little bit less genuine moments yeah, yeah, yeah there's.

Mike:

It's a show. It's about where people are trying to fall in love Blindly, blindly, and some moments you can see where the person is like, okay, they're saying all the right words, but you just don't feel it, like, nah, I don't feel like it's real. And some people you watch like, yeah, actually you feel it in your core, like you asked me. I don't remember what you asked me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, we do feel it at the core, because the truth is not is undeniable. It's undeniable If it's real love, it's real love. If it's not, it's not. We have a Humans have a crazy potential to do some crazy wonderful things.

Everyone:

Yeah, the craziest.

Eldar:

The craziest, the craziest. If you can tap into it, zeke. Tap it into it guys. Zeke, are you tapping?

Zeek:

into it yeah.

DJ:

I think he's tapping into it.

Eldar:

Yeah, yeah, why, dj? Tell me why.

DJ:

I mean, he's here right now putting himself forward to a bunch of people he doesn't know, really right? Well, that's one.

Eldar:

That's a good point, this motherfucker came off of my man's word.

Everyone:

He's in a whole different country.

DJ:

You feel me, I don't know how you're set up, how your life's going, but that takes courage, some genuine courage. Dj.

Eldar:

Zeke, were you nervous?

Zeek:

Nervous, surprisingly, for this or for the whole, for this? Oh this, no, no, no, no, because, like there's no desire for, or, like you know, like Mike said, the desire is not there for me in terms of like Outcomes. Yeah, yeah, you know, it's like I'm already here in New York. I'm already here in New York. I got nothing to lose. Yeah, like my plane trips booked, I'm going back on a certain date, but everything that I fill the space with is whatever, and what I'm going to fill the space with is whatever I can. So like for me to be nervous about this? Yeah, there's the regular anxiety, but it's just yeah, it was such a different feeling.

Mike:

Yeah, yeah, being nervous is like a part of it. Oh, it's such a different feeling. Yeah, yeah, being nervous is like a part of a oh, it's being human. No, it's no, I'm not. I was going to say that. I was going to say being nervous is a little bit In your case, or in this case, right, it's a little bit To be nervous. To be arrogant is to say that you know what's expected, but maybe you know, if you come in like oh, this or that, maybe, yeah, maybe not arrogance, but like in a way, it's like you kind of say like you know what to expect and that could be, you know, thought of as arrogant. But if you're coming over, mind that you say I don't know what to expect, I don't know what's gonna happen here.

Zeek:

It's more open-minded and like it's true, I feel like so much of like my life experience has been like I just never knew what to expect yeah and so, therefore, like, the only expectation I have is that, like what people are going to treat me with respect, because I do my best to do the same, and so then that's it. Yeah, the rest, up until that point, is like whatever's written yeah, oh, yeah, it's definitely as.

DJ:

I think that's great, it's definitely, as you said, man, you receive the energy that you put out, and I'm pretty sure that's something like I definitely try to live by. You know, try to live by, like good karma or whatever. Well, not trying to live by it, it's just it's just a practice. It Like damn, maybe I shouldn't do this. Yeah, I wouldn't like that, like you know, you know, you know, but I think that's something we all definitely are into too here.

Zeek:

Yeah, yeah, there's like just a, and then you know, just to be grounded as well. As it's weird because there is a bit of duality, right, it's like to be in the spot where I am. It's like to think that I have to believe that I'm destined for greatness, because I do believe that, but then it's also like we're all human at the end of the day as well. So then it's like, well, my own assessment of myself is like what gives me this edge? Yeah, and what gives me this edge, Because I see it like that, amongst other creatives, I'm like they don't have it. Okay, but why? Yeah you figuring it out as in like the questions that I ask myself.

Eldar:

Yeah, have you figured it out.

Zeek:

Do I know why? I mean, I know I feel like my vocalization of what I have to say is there to be heard. Okay, for reasons that maybe I haven't discovered yet, that I'm still discovering. Yeah, that you guys have put context into through our own discussion tonight, but I know that I'm on a mission to inspire. Yeah, for sure. And then that's sort of.

Eldar:

from that point it's like Did you know that you have the ability to be honest that's your superpower before you came to on this podcast? Yes you did, yeah, okay because the transparency thing yeah, okay something. I try and uphold it like okay so, and that is the biggest part of that is if someone, because the way you came across was very natural, so I would think that you would know.

Zeek:

Yeah. Yeah, because that was my practice. Thank you, yeah, that is dope.

Eldar:

You know what I mean. I appreciate that a lot, you know. Humility we talk about this all the time on this podcast, right, and that's why we're trying to help Mr President 2050 with humility Right To Mr President 2050 with humility to become a little bit more humble and start paying attention to the words that he says out into the world with the arrogance that he's been upholding. And based on what you've been saying, I would appreciate that you carry a certain level of humility and that is why I think that is dope. Based on what I judge the world on, you know what I'm saying. I don't know If I sat down with Kanye West and questioned him. I don't know. Based on what I feel in my heart Paul Fok is arrogant, bro. To some degree you know what I mean. Like what the fuck?

Zeek:

Sometimes maybe we think we know too much.

Mike:

I think it's hard to stay humble and not.

Eldar:

Yeah Well, I think it's hard to stay humble and not success, yes, but I might be also prejudging him you know what I mean without knowing who he truly is. You know what I'm saying, but I'm not sure if he's finding the right words. If Zeke keeps up what he's talking about and the way he's talking about it, I think it's very attractive to the world today, least right where there is this motherfucker's dope. He got dope shit on. You know what I'm saying, but he's humble as fuck. Like I fuck with that because that gives me peace. You know what I'm saying. I like it. I'm not gonna wear his shit cause I, my wife, won't allow it, but but I fuck with his mind and that's what counts, and I'm telling you right now, it's more than anybody who would buy his shit Would do.

Mike:

Because I actually you understand on a different level.

Eldar:

Yeah, I understand on a different level completely, and I think Zeke will understand that as well. You know what I mean. I don't think he needs me to buy his clothes. I think he needs me to Back him up. Yeah, because he knows what I'm about and that's a mutual thing, right, harris? Right Because we don't fuck around here.

Everyone:

No, we do not.

Eldar:

Okay, good, because you've been on the fucking.

DJ:

How you feeling over there, harris, you've been awfully high.

Mike:

It's dropping bro.

DJ:

This is kind of crazy. Go home bro, Go home bro, Wait, so you.