162. No More Hiding: Cracking the Code to Real Connection

Why do we act the way we do in pursuit of connection?

Buckle up for a no-holds-barred dive into the messy world of dating, rejection, and self-discovery with Harris, Eldar, Toliy, and Mike. What starts as a quest to “get girls” spirals into a raw, hilarious, and gut-punching look at why we hide our true selves. From barstool blunders to manic sleepless nights, Harris lays it all bare—his struggles with confidence, meds, and the pressure to be someone he’s not. The crew doesn’t sugarcoat it, serving tough love with a side of laughs as they unpack how to ditch the fake cover and lead with the real you. If you’ve ever felt stuck in your own head, this episode’s for you—expect truth bombs, cringe-worthy confessions, and a roadmap to owning your story.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Intro and Rejection Woes
• 2:43 Bar Tactics Gone Wrong
• 7:10 Dating App Disasters
• 16:26 Hiding the Real Harris
• 23:28 Sales Lessons for Love
• 35:23 Brainwashing for Good
• 46:10 Selling Harris to Harris
• 57:07 Manic Nights, Meds, and Missteps
• 1:09:16 Embracing the Chaos
• 1:19:08 Final Truths and Tough Love

Transcript

[00:00:00] Eldar: On this week's episode, I'm very fun and outgoing person. I'm very caring. I like to try new things. I enjoy watching movies. I enjoy spending time with my friends and family. What the fuck? Normal shit. Exactly. That is why you have no matches. All right, then fix it. When people see your authentic self, they're gonna gravitate towards that because that's exactly what they actually want themselves.

[00:00:19] Eldar: And one day, if you can have the conversation around what I just said, that might spark some stuff. So that's my attempt to sell you to you as much as I could. Can you sell yourself now? That's the question. And when you can finally, I think it's gonna be a, A beautiful journey. It's gonna be crazy.

[00:00:42] Eldar: Here comes, right, today's topic.

[00:00:49] Harris: This is, this is gonna be a good one, Harris. Let me guess. 

[00:00:51] Harris: I guess I'll, you know what? Can I, can I take a while? Guess? 

[00:00:54] Eldar: Yeah, sure. Romance. Wow. Very good. But more specific, niched out. For people that like fucking, I guess headlines and like, oh, like this sounds cool, or whatever. So you're gonna do this over exaggerating this.

[00:01:08] Eldar: You ready? I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna give you one the secret behind getting girls. 

[00:01:14] Harris: Ooh. Oh, what? No, you, you making me feel pathetic when we got into 

[00:01:20] Eldar: this time. Why you saying that? This is a big thing, right? Yeah. It's a big problem. It's a big situation or whatever. What was your question Right before we started this, this topic?

[00:01:32] Harris: Well, it was dealing with rejection. Okay. How to do it. Okay. Uh, totally gave you an example, right? That like, look, you know, a lot of times people after the chick that has the Gucci, the, what do you mean by that? Instagram? Yes. Uh, it's. The girl that's looking for sugar daddy, the girl that's looking for someone that's got a lot of dough.

[00:01:51] Harris: Correct. 

[00:01:51] Eldar: If you're not that sugar daddy, if you didn't pull up on the GWA wearing Gucci and louisie, Gucci mink. 

[00:01:58] Harris: So if I pull up in the Tesla, they're not gonna be impressed. 

[00:02:02] Eldar: Uh, well, the thing is, it's, that's questionable. You know what I mean? I think that maybe they could be impressed for sure. But is that what you're after, right?

[00:02:09] Eldar: No, if they're not after what you have, because then 

[00:02:11] Harris: you just got a fake fucking thing 

[00:02:13] Eldar: and it's probably not gonna work. Right. The, the whole, the puzzle is not gonna fit. Right. So that's number one. But when the, the puzzle somewhat fits. What were your question around that?

[00:02:28] Harris: Had to deal with the rejection man. 

[00:02:30] Mike: No, you said something just now, but I already forgot it. 'cause I'm a little out of it. But 

[00:02:35] Harris: you're out of it, bro. I got two hours of sleep. Shut the hell up. Why? Okay. You know? Um, okay, so we'll start with 

[00:02:42] Eldar: rejection since it's important. 

[00:02:43] Harris: Yeah. Mm-hmm. That's a major thing because.

[00:02:46] Harris: You know, after being rejected so many times mm-hmm. Or whatever. 

[00:02:50] Harris: Yeah. 

[00:02:50] Harris: Uh, the only way I could build up the courage was yeah. Getting drunk. 

[00:02:57] Harris: Mm-hmm. 

[00:02:58] Harris: Uh, 

[00:02:59] Eldar: and going for it. Okay, cool. So check this out. My question would be then, when you are presenting yourself, what are you trying to accomplish with that attempt?

[00:03:09] Harris: Have a conversation, get it going, you know? Uh, okay. 

[00:03:12] Eldar: Get what Going. Get get into, like, try to zoom in into the actual thing as like what are you trying to do? 

[00:03:18] Harris: Well, when I get drunk. Okay. It doesn't always go with what I want. It ends in one thing. Throwing up on someone. No. A release? Yes. Oh, you want a release?

[00:03:29] Harris: Oh, you want, I end up buying the girl drinks and uhhuh racking up. A tab, hundreds of dollars. Yesterday you 

[00:03:37] Eldar: were trying to buy everyone a drink. 

[00:03:38] Mike: Yes, we saw the pattern. He kept pushing me. He was like, yo, buy those girls a drink. You like those girls? Yeah, buy 'em a drink. This is a classic move. Yeah, yeah. You know it's 

[00:03:44] Harris: a classic move.

[00:03:45] Harris: Yeah. The, the drinks get going, they come over, you know, it's nothing real. You will buy your, they come over, the drinks keep flowing. One thing, another happens, you both get drunk, uhhuh, you bang it out, put a soccer on your door and then you go your separate ways. Okay. Is that what the ultimate goal is for you?

[00:04:02] Harris: No. Okay. It's not so, but what 

[00:04:07] Toliy: I think you gotta be honest. Yeah. Like that day, like that, that it's your ultimate goal. 

[00:04:11] Harris: It's not my ultimate goal 

[00:04:14] Toliy: because if that's the ultimate goal, right. Ultimate goal, why waste money on that? My ultimate goal is to find something meaningful. Okay. But in like in those nights out, what you're talking about, you're not looking for anything meaningful?

[00:04:24] Toliy: That's a tricky question. 

[00:04:26] Harris: Well, like I said, the only way I can gain. Self respect. No courage to do it. Yeah. Is to have a little drinky poo of courage, man. No, but I'm saying 

[00:04:35] Toliy: in those nights, the goal is not to find something meaningful. The goal is to Yeah. Because I know it's gonna end this way. Oh, what way is it gonna end 

[00:04:43] Eldar: that you're not gonna get anything meaningful?

[00:04:45] Eldar: Yeah. So you might as well just get, get a nut out. Yeah. 

[00:04:48] Toliy: Okay. Well, yeah, I mean, like, if you're looking for that, like, there, I mean, there's much, much easier path 

[00:04:53] Eldar: to victory. Yeah. It's completely 

[00:04:54] Toliy: different. It's also like if you're going up to them and like, you can't talk, like you don't know what to say. You don't know how to act.

[00:05:01] Toliy: Like 

[00:05:01] Harris: that's what we had. You're, 

[00:05:03] Toliy: you're, you're setting yourself up for failure yesterday. 

[00:05:07] Harris: You know, I had this Q girl sitting next to me. Fine. Yeah. Okay. Uh, you know, Eldar and Mike were pushing yo talk to her, you know, talk to her. Do soft talk to her. Mm-hmm. She's sitting down. She's alone. Yeah. I couldn't get the courage to do it.

[00:05:22] Toliy: Well. Well, yeah, because you're trying to, you're, you're trying to find something in a empty pot. Dang man. No. Just the reality of it, which is okay. Right? But I like, there's plenty of things that you can do where you can fill that pot and you can then reach into it and use it. Number 

[00:05:41] Eldar: one, Harris, right? I think when it comes to dating, romance, relationships, having sex, whatever it is, you have to define what exactly that you want, what exactly it is that you want, right?

[00:05:52] Eldar: Then you can lead with that, right? Let's just say this, I want to have fun and have sex tonight. That's one agenda, right? Mm-hmm. Or I want to find something and like make it more meaningful. You know what I mean? These are two different conversations. Yes or no? 

[00:06:08] Harris: Yeah. 

[00:06:09] Eldar: Right. I think the having fun maybe and ending up having sex with someone, it's probably more lighthearted.

[00:06:15] Eldar: Like you probably have to make a lot of jokes. Right. Probably surface level conversations. Right? Nothing very deep where a girl starts crying and telling you her whole stop story about how her ex-boyfriend cheated on her or whatever, right? 

[00:06:28] Harris: No. Usually starts out with you ordering her drinks. Yeah. You order drinks.

[00:06:31] Harris: What's your name? Where you from, you know? Yeah. And then the next, you know, you talking bullshit. Well, no, that's what I'm saying. It's like 

[00:06:37] Eldar: usually surface level, right? Jokes have fun, enjoying the time, getting a little bit drunk, right? Putting you on the beer goggles and next thing you know, getting a little horny and they're like, Hey, you wanna come to my place and let's get it out.

[00:06:48] Eldar: You know, get to Right. Get the demon out, right? 

[00:06:51] Harris: Yeah. 

[00:06:52] Eldar: Okay. That's how it looks. I think that intention looks pretty much like that. The other one looks a little bit different, right? It's more so like, I could, can I get into a more maybe fun, but yet still interesting, more in depth conversation with someone if I want something long term.

[00:07:09] Eldar: Right. And I think that if you, before you go out, set yourself up to like, okay, what, what are we doing here? Do we want something real or do we want something? Then you'll know kind of what to do. And if you really separate these two, if one day you say, I'm horny, what's wrong with just going to a hooker spot?

[00:07:27] Eldar: Right? Or whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, a whore house, right? Whoa, whoa, whoa. And paying $150 strapping on a condom, getting you a nut out and forgetting about it. What's wrong with you? I'm asking a question. What is wrong with that, Harris, with that scenario? Like, like if you got a nut, then why don't just do 

[00:07:44] Toliy: this?

[00:07:46] Toliy: What's the argument here? Or you also mentioned that Arch does not mind sharing his, uh, toy, right? Fuck you, dude. All right, cool. Um, and he's looking at you right now. I don't know why he is looking at you. Fuck yeah. Yeah, he's frozen. He's frozen.

[00:08:04] Toliy: No man. 

[00:08:07] Eldar: Are you catching my drift? 

[00:08:08] Toliy: Yeah. I catch your drift. Right? Yeah. I think also some people are in like, like a denial or they're maybe not sure of what they're looking for. Correct. So they have this puzzle. Like, to me, no. The way that Harris talk think 

[00:08:19] Mike: it's, I think, I think what you're saying is, is correct, but it's that they're now, they're not sure.

[00:08:25] Mike: I think they're just not decided because I think that's what it is. 

[00:08:28] Eldar: Yeah. That's the same word. It is the same thing, yeah. Yeah. Not sure. Not sure. Not decided. Mike. It's the same thing. 

[00:08:32] Mike: Mm. 

[00:08:33] Eldar: Right. More if you're not decided, you're not sure. Yeah. If you're sure you're not decided. Think about it in a different way.

[00:08:38] Eldar: So you're sure decided. I, 

[00:08:40] Toliy: I, I think maybe, um, you're saying that the, they're not willing to admit with what they No, I think everybody 

[00:08:47] Mike: ultimately wants the same thing. Right.

[00:08:52] Mike: No, I mean, when they're able to tap into their best. 

[00:08:56] Eldar: Okay, now see there's conditions, Mike. Yeah. That's conditional. That's that. That's a crazy condition. 'cause some people are never able to tap, tap into that. Tap into correct Mike. So like you have to look at it as like moment to moment, right? Mm-hmm. And I think sometimes moments are overpowering enough to lead the intention mm-hmm.

[00:09:12] Eldar: And the actions behind it, right? Mm-hmm. Like somebody could just be horny and wants to like bang it out and just forget about it. Mm-hmm. And I think that's a moment in time. 

[00:09:20] Mike: Yeah. 

[00:09:21] Eldar: But overall, if they, you sit them down and ask 'em like, Hey, how do you actually feel? You know? Yeah. You go into the whole therapy thing and you're like, yeah, I'm kind lonely.

[00:09:29] Eldar: I like someone, you know? Mm-hmm. But then why the fuck are you fucking around every night? Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. So we'll totally. I don't fuck 

[00:09:35] Harris: around every night. 

[00:09:37] Eldar: I'm just speaking an example because stay here threw an argument here. Yes. Overall, yes. I think that ol Yeah. Is probably was going pre-programmed, right?

[00:09:47] Eldar: Mm-hmm. To find a mate that is. More long term. Mm-hmm. Like that's just like basic, as basic as it gets Like, 

[00:09:55] Harris: like, let's put it this way. 

[00:09:57] Eldar: Yeah. 

[00:09:58] Harris: I hit the dating apps. Yeah. Regularly. Yeah. They're bullshit. What's regularly? Every other day I fucking swipe I right now, every other day is my super You swipe super.

[00:10:12] Harris: Yeah. How many times? How many times? Yeah. Do I swipe? Yeah. Until I ain't got no more swipes. Mm-hmm. 

[00:10:20] Toliy: Well, every other day he's the limit. And how many, like then and like how many swipes are we talking about? Are we talking about like 150? 

[00:10:27] Harris: A hundred? I don't know how many they offer on OkCupid, but I'm not sure.

[00:10:30] Toliy: Okay. And what, no, nobody bites. 

[00:10:33] Harris: Oh, there's some, but you also got the few women on there that are from like Africa and all this shit. Uh, and I was talking to Mike that I recently changed my occupation on that site to, uh, account executive sales. Account executive. 

[00:10:53] Toliy: I thought you were gonna say to a corn packer.

[00:10:56] Toliy: Fuck 

[00:10:56] Harris: you. 

[00:10:57] Toliy: That means 

[00:10:57] Eldar: everyone who's 25 and under. Yeah. And didn't finish high school will find the word executive. Very important. 

[00:11:03] Toliy: Yes. 

[00:11:04] Harris: Okay. Including I'm found out single mothers. Ooh, they like that. Oh, yeah. Uh, because they don't know any better. She matched. Mm-hmm. You know, we started talking. I felt like, you know, we started 

[00:11:18] Harris: mm-hmm.

[00:11:19] Harris: Hitting it off. Hitting it off. Okay. Then I said, let me take you out to a nice dinner. Okay. And that's when she hit me with the ready Uhhuh. I'm only looking for arrangements or release. Arrangements. She's looking for a sugar daddy. Okay. Uh, immediately I was like, Nope. Mm-hmm. Unmatched. That was it. You know?

[00:11:42] Harris: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

[00:11:43] Toliy: Okay. So why don't, like, like making that statement is crazy because there is, there's a ton of people who are successful on those apps and there's a ton of people who are not successful on those apps. Right? So saying that the app is like, the apps don't work is a crazy thing for me. It's not working well.

[00:11:58] Toliy: That, like for you right now it's not working. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah. But if you throw the app, if you give el the app, I bet you you have success. 

[00:12:07] Eldar: Like the, uh, and I'm gonna tell you right now, I'll put your pictures on it. 

[00:12:11] Harris: My pictures are already on it. You 

[00:12:13] Eldar: didn't understand my point. You want me to pull it up?

[00:12:15] Eldar: You didn't understand my point. What if totally just said if you put Ldo R on it right, with your 

[00:12:20] Harris: pictures, I'm still gonna be successful.

[00:12:27] Harris: Isn't that the whole fucking point? I mean, you did this shit with, uh, I'm not gonna say it on here. Okay. Don't. But you know what I'm talking about. We were in Bermuda. Yeah. You set up an account over there. Yeah, 

[00:12:39] Eldar: no, what I'm saying is that like your, he's trying to say that your interaction with the app and the world is very specific, and right now you're probably not attracting what you actually looking for.

[00:12:51] Eldar: Okay. Well, I 

[00:12:51] Harris: can do it for you if I wanted to.

[00:12:59] Harris: All right. 

[00:13:01] Harris: Let's see. I'm gonna read what's on my profile. 

[00:13:05] Harris: Why? Yeah. What is this for? Technically that's what people look at. 

[00:13:10] Toliy: Okay, well, yeah, but why are you gonna read this?

[00:13:17] Harris: How do I get 

[00:13:18] Harris: why I'm trying to figure out what's going on? 

[00:13:23] Harris: She wants to test me. That's how, that's how this works. Oh, 

[00:13:26] Harris: okay. 

[00:13:26] Harris: What 

[00:13:27] Harris: I'm testing you. 

[00:13:30] Toliy: All right. So what's the point? So, yeah, the point I'm trying to make is that the, like all these different methods for different people work or don't work just based on like, their understanding of it.

[00:13:40] Toliy: Their like under, like, like it, it's, it's like a topic. If you don't understand the topic, if you don't understand the tool mm-hmm. You're not gonna be successful. But if you know the topic, you know the tool, you can use it for success. Correct. Right. Um, so I think it's crazy to say that something doesn't work.

[00:13:59] Toliy: 'cause it's like these apps all exist and have been existing for a long time, for many people to, uh, use, you know, successfully. 

[00:14:09] Eldar: Uh, I'm gonna cut you off here and say that he has a, he has only one thing on his mind right now. Yeah. And you don't have his intention. 

[00:14:15] Toliy: Okay. 

[00:14:15] Eldar: Okay. Yeah. 

[00:14:17] Harris: Tell me what I'm doing wrong.

[00:14:18] Eldar: Okay. You want me to do that now? 

[00:14:20] Harris: Do it on the podcast. 

[00:14:22] Mike: Okay. Wow.

[00:14:25] Mike: I's moving. What the fuck, man? 

[00:14:28] Toliy: Which, which picture did he put you? You look like you just escaped from a gay. Oh my god. Ju a gay juvie. That's a good photo, man. A gay juvie. All right, 

[00:14:36] Eldar: go through the pictures. Yeah, I got you. No. Oh, I have to go through the pictures. Okay. Oh my God. You go from that to this. Oh 

[00:14:43] Toliy: my God.

[00:14:43] Toliy: That's a good photo. This looks like a, uh, these are my best photos. This, this, this looks like a leprechaun auditioning for men in black poor. Fuck you 

[00:14:51] Harris: man. These are my best photos. She said these are these best photos. 

[00:14:53] Eldar: You see this? 

[00:14:53] Toliy: This is terrible, man. Doesn't show my 

[00:14:54] Harris: weight. It doesn't, you know. 

[00:14:57] Eldar: So what you're saying is you're hiding.

[00:14:59] Eldar: I'm not hiding. 

[00:15:00] Harris: This is terrible photo. Good one, man. Yeah. Last photo's a good one, man. You understand what you look at that or no? A person showing a middle finger. 

[00:15:11] Harris: Hmm. 

[00:15:12] Harris: In Bermuda? 

[00:15:15] Toliy: Yeah. Like your selection of photos automatically is bad. Yeah. 

[00:15:18] Eldar: It's 

[00:15:18] Toliy: banned. Yeah. Then 

[00:15:19] Eldar: yeah. Those are the three photos you have.

[00:15:22] Eldar: That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Like, that's terrible. Yeah. I don't have 

[00:15:24] Toliy: a lot of photos. The second one is the first and the second one is, um, serial 

[00:15:28] Eldar: killer. Who's crazy? Where you going? 

[00:15:30] Harris: Lemme see. What do you mean what you get the fuck? What? 

[00:15:32] Eldar: Yo, get the fuck back. Yeah. Set the fuck down. Yeah. This is terrible. Okay. Okay.

[00:15:37] Eldar: That's number one. 

[00:15:39] Harris: You're gonna read the a man 

[00:15:41] Eldar: street monogamous single identity. Enter your own, uh, a little extra. Okay. I'm not all that ju like Judaism, Taurus, politically modern. Like, there you go. Right? Like, why you're putting all this nonsense in here. Like it matters, right? You closing all the, all the doors, you're filters, you're filtering Right now you're, you're filtering, you're not in the position to filter my friend.

[00:16:03] Eldar: Yes. So what? Just delete everything. Of course. If you actually want me want to succeed, you, you need to, you need to hear, get some of our advice. I'm very fun and outgoing person. I'm very caring. I like to try new things. I enjoy watching movies. I enjoy spending time with my friends and family. What the fuck?

[00:16:19] Eldar: Yeah. Normal shit. Exactly. That is why you have no matches, my friend. All right, then 

[00:16:24] Harris: fix it. 

[00:16:25] Eldar: You have bad pictures with normal shit. Fuck 

[00:16:27] Harris: yeah. What the fuck? Fuck. What the fuck you think you, yeah. What the fuck you please man. Please fix it, man. 

[00:16:31] Eldar: Yeah. Oh good. I will help you. 

[00:16:34] Harris: Yo, last time the pictures you, you picked on Tin Man, 

[00:16:39] Eldar: I'll pick the best pictures and I'll give you the best profile and you still won't be able to do shit with it.

[00:16:44] Eldar: What the hell, man? That's not the point because at the end of the day, Harris. Mm-hmm. Right At the end of the day, I'm gonna tell you the problem with dating, okay? A lot of people wanna present the cover of the book, the catfishing of 

[00:16:55] Harris: the 

[00:16:55] Eldar: book. Correct? They wanna present the cover of the book, and you know that saying that they say, what's the saying?

[00:17:01] Eldar: That they say 10 nano. 

[00:17:04] Toliy: Don't eat Tito's while using your phone. 

[00:17:08] Eldar: What saying don't judge the book by its cover. There you go. In dating everybody is using the best cover. Everyone. Okay. This is what they're trying to do. They're trying to put, it's 

[00:17:21] Toliy: bound, it's stitched nice. Like it has like, you know, nice weight to it.

[00:17:24] Toliy: It's, it's perfect. Printing on it is perfect. You know what I mean? And some people are actually 

[00:17:28] Eldar: very bad at doing that as well, you know what I mean? So at least, at least at a minimum. At a minimum, right? You're doing a very bad job with this. Of, of the hook. 

[00:17:39] Harris: Yeah. 

[00:17:40] Eldar: You don't have the hook. What happened to Harris is the hook man.

[00:17:43] Eldar: Nothing. What do you mean? Like people love you there. You know what I mean? You fans. So what, I 

[00:17:49] Harris: gotta tag that in the Dana thing, you know? 

[00:17:51] Eldar: No, what I'm saying is that like, we're not, you're not leading with that naturally, organically. Right. You're not leading with the humor. You're not leading with all the stuff that you actually possess.

[00:18:00] Eldar: You're leading with I'm a family caring man. You're not a caring man. You're a selfish piece of shit. You said this to me. I'm a piece of shit. That's what you should write. I'm a piece of shit. You know, I, I, I realize I'm a piece of shit and I've been doing this for a very long time, but my journey is a very interesting one.

[00:18:14] Eldar: Yeah. You know, I'm surrounded by people that are trying to help me. This is what I'm doing, and people are like, oh shit. I'm intrigued. I wanna know more. You are hiding. You wanna play, keep playing, hide and seek. You're very good at it. Nobody's gonna find you enjoy. 

[00:18:30] Toliy: Yeah. Right now you're capable of, of e eating Chinese food for three meals in a row.

[00:18:36] Eldar: So 

[00:18:37] Toliy: this is, this is 

[00:18:37] Eldar: happening for everyone you understand? Mm-hmm. And on in a dating scene, a lot of times people see these rejections and see these things where. The filters or what people are reading, they're not intrigued anymore. They don't see, like, you know, so if you're coming up to a girl using the same old lines, they don't want to hear it.

[00:18:56] Eldar: They want to see something unique. They want to feel something, something real. 

[00:19:00] Harris: That's why you were telling me to tell the girl, uh, what, I know this is gonna sound funny or weird. Okay. But in 25 years. 

[00:19:08] Eldar: Yeah, exactly. I said, Hey, like, you know, you are lucky. You guys just met the president in 25 of United States.

[00:19:15] Eldar: Yeah. The president of the United States in 25 years at 12, 20 50. They'd be like, wait, what? You know what I mean? Like, if you don't get that reaction, that's a conversation starter. Right. And if they're like, oh, like, kinda like whatever, like, like, hey, you really don't wanna know, like, what's up with you? You don't wanna speak to my campaign manager.

[00:19:34] Eldar: Yeah. Like, you don't want to, you don't, you don't know what's going on here, you know? So like, if you can't have fun with it, you'll never get anywhere. You know what I'm saying? But in order to be able to have fun publicly. And not privately, because I know how, you know how to have fun privately. You know what I mean?

[00:19:50] Eldar: Mm-hmm. You take your pants off real quick. What's wrong with you, man? You know what I mean? That takes a little bit of, I don't know, I don't wanna say courage, but I want, I, I wanna say more confidence. Right? And we in yourself already discovered right here. You show your ass every single day. To us. To us, hey.

[00:20:07] Eldar: And some of it, my testimony, some of it is nice, it's funny, it's quirky and it's clever and it's witty and it's fast. But some of it is, you are mean and you are, you know what I mean? Like, and those other stuff, you know, like that you're a jerk or whatever, you know? And, and not good. So I'm giving you props on one end, which you should be presenting out there in the world, right?

[00:20:29] Eldar: Uh, and removing the mean part. Not being a nice guy, you know, but keeping the other, but you'll never be able to take my testimony for it. You're never gonna be able to lead with it because you don't actually believe it. 

[00:20:40] Harris: No, I don't believe I'm funny. You see, but I mean, everyone says I'm funny. Well. There you go.

[00:20:46] Harris: You don't believe everyone. You see, I remember the, the I. Yeah. Shout out to Joe. Yeah, because I remember when Joe came on the podcast for the first time. Yeah, yeah. Uh, you know, he said, you're hilarious. You gotta lead with it. You know, you gotta try to do open mic nights. You're, you, you're hilarious. People love it.

[00:21:04] Harris: Do proud work. Well, don't, let's not, let's not push it here. Yeah. I'm not, he didn't say do open mic. Yeah, no. He recommended try your hand of comedy. Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, you know, uh, I don't really think I'm funny. I don't see it. Uh, my family doesn't really think I'm funny. 

[00:21:18] Eldar: Yeah. Um, okay. So why do you, why do you do what you do?

[00:21:22] Eldar: Why, why do you act the way you act here in this office? Let's just talk about that. Yeah. Why 

[00:21:28] Harris: don't you act more, more, more serious? I don't know. I'm just being myself. 

[00:21:32] Eldar: You see your organic self. To me. You think I would lie to you? No. Yeah. I wouldn't lie to you. No. To me, it's funny, I think the guys also feel that you are funny, you know, organically.

[00:21:45] Eldar: You know, that's not to say that you're a little bit stupid and it plays to it, but I think that you have some smarts and wittiness and the way you come back with certain things is actually calculated and funny. It's actually good, 

[00:21:56] Toliy: but, but I think before you could be consciously funny. You have, you have like, if you're not consciously funny, you have to be stupid funny.

[00:22:05] Toliy: Fine. Yeah. 

[00:22:06] Eldar: I'll take that. You know? Yeah. And I think he has that. Yeah. Right. But, but there's no way you could present that in front of a girl. Yeah. That's the issue. Bridging that gap is what gonna get you all the girls and the girls that you'll be like, holy shit, I can't believe I bag that. 

[00:22:23] Harris: So I'm saying

[00:22:27] Eldar: mm-hmm. You don't lead with that. You don't lead with, you know, all the funny things that you do have those qualities, you know, you psyche yourself out, right? And then you start looking at like, well, what's wrong with my teeth? What's wrong with my weight? What's wrong with this? What's wrong with that? And next thing you know, all you are just a perpetual cycle of self negative talk and it just consumes you.

[00:22:48] Eldar: And then you can't even utter a word. I say the same thing to Mike. I think Mike's hilarious. And Mike's funny jokes always get me, Catherine and everyone around here, you know what I mean? But as soon as he meets a girl, it's also his Achilles heel. Like, oh, can't do shit. So you're not leading with who you actually are.

[00:23:07] Eldar: Which is a crazy phenomenon. What you mean? He did pretty good? He did. Yes. He's he's actually trying though, you know what I mean? Like we're, you are on a different spectrum of the journey. I know. I ain't trying at all. You're not trying at all. You know, you're talking about, Hey, let's do the classic move, you know, order them drinks.

[00:23:23] Eldar: Like what? I'm going back to the Yeah. Sipping out. You know, you 

[00:23:27] Harris: don't 

[00:23:27] Eldar: gotta say like that, man. Mm-hmm. How, how am I supposed to say things that are the things that I'm trying to describe? Trying to be adrenaline. You trying to be gentleman? Yeah. You see like you hiding behind nonsense, you know? So how do you get them?

[00:23:43] Eldar: How do you get actual girls? I think that our human souls are, are wired for authenticity. Okay. When people see authentic, your authentic self, they're gonna gravitate towards that because that's exactly what they actually want themselves. Mm-hmm. You know, and one day if you can have the conversation around what I just said, that might spark some stuff, you know what I mean?

[00:24:11] Eldar: But for now, you just have to keep sucking the farts outta their ass. 

[00:24:16] Toliy: Yeah. Or what's wrong with you participating in a all you can eat crab leg competitions on Sundays. Yeah. And me and Mike will coach you on that. 

[00:24:25] Eldar: Yeah, 

[00:24:25] Toliy: exactly. 

[00:24:26] Eldar: Exactly, 

[00:24:28] Harris: exactly. So.

[00:24:34] Harris: Any questions 

[00:24:35] Eldar: around that? 

[00:24:36] Toliy: Yeah, like all, all of these different scenarios, whether they're like, like whatever the goals are, like if it's just a, you know, one night stand type thing or, or something more serious or long term. Like you can dissect any scenario that, like you give and you'll be able to find out exactly why something is working or not working.

[00:24:56] Toliy: And you could apply that to like any type of thing. Did you understand what you just said? 

[00:25:02] Eldar: You could be honest here 

[00:25:03] Toliy: a 

[00:25:03] Eldar: little bit. Okay. 

[00:25:04] Toliy: Right. It's like, it's also like, like if you wanna just bring it back to like, to, to, to me at least bringing it back to sales make makes it like very easy to understand, right?

[00:25:13] Toliy: Like, like imagine like you're talking about like rejectionists, like, uh, like rejection is hard for example. Or like that happens, right? Like if you're selling a solution that works, for example, for companies that are 5,000 or more employees and you're trying to sell 'em to five person teams. So what's gonna happen?

[00:25:34] Harris: I think that was three hairs. Sorry. 

[00:25:39] Eldar: That's okay. You did a mouth fart. 

[00:25:41] Harris: That was not a mouth fart. No, that was a mouth fart. That was a yawn, bro. Okay, so 

[00:25:47] Toliy: what, repeat the question. Sorry. Okay. If you have a product for 5,000 person teams and you're trying to sell it to five person teams, it's 

[00:25:56] Harris: not gonna be a good fit.

[00:25:57] Toliy: It's not gonna work. What's gonna happen? Not gonna be taken seriously. What? What's gonna happen? It's gonna be rejected. You're gonna be rejected over and over and over again. So what does that person do? Do they say, Hey, like, my, my, my product doesn't work? Like, is that the conclusion that they make? No.

[00:26:16] Toliy: Right. Like, like may, maybe a little bit of a smarter person saying, Hey, okay, let me examine what's going on. Here's what I'm offering, here's the, the people I'm offering it to. This doesn't seem like they could get, they could get value from this, right? Same thing that the girl's looking for that like, um, super rich person, right?

[00:26:38] Toliy: Um, or like, you know, like, like you said, like you were speaking to somebody and they were looking for a sugar daddy, right? 

[00:26:43] Harris: Yeah. 

[00:26:44] Toliy: What happened there? You're not a good fit for that, right? Mm-hmm. Why? 

[00:26:49] Harris: Well, first of all, I don't want that. First off, you don't want that. Okay. Second off, I ain't got the money for it.

[00:26:54] Harris: Second, 

[00:26:54] Toliy: second off. You don't got the money for it. Does that mean that there's not someone out there that does want that and does have the money for it? Yeah. So what's the problem? There's certain prospects who are better fit for other sellers, you know? That's right. The market is the market. The The market is the market, right?

[00:27:10] Toliy: And if you're selling into the wrong market, or that's your fault. Yeah. That that's 

[00:27:15] Eldar: your fault. You're doing all the wrong things. So in order to sell to the right market, what do you have to do? Harris? 

[00:27:22] Harris: Find the right market and dig deep. 

[00:27:24] Eldar: No, no, no, no. Okay, fine. Find the right market and dig deep. What does that mean?

[00:27:28] Eldar: You gave me a general answer. I want a specific thing. What do you need to do? You can go back to sales and what totally 

[00:27:35] Harris: always told you, what do you need to do?

[00:27:41] Harris: Totally dumb 

[00:27:43] Harris: in 

[00:27:43] Eldar: order to find the right fit or find the right market for your product, right? What do you need to do? What do you need to do to the market or to the prospect? What do you need to do to the prospect? Ask question. There you go. Right? You have to ask questions to the prospect. And what questions would you ask to the girl 

[00:28:07] Harris: a little bit about themselves?

[00:28:09] Harris: I, what are you doing here? Well, no, no, no, no, 

[00:28:13] Eldar: no. Listen to me. If they're at a bar, what are you gonna say? What are you doing here? No, no, no. Well, well, well, yeah. Right. The girl that was sitting next to you. Right. Right. Yeah. Pretty girl. Right. What is she doing here? Right. Isn't that what your mind is wondering towards?

[00:28:26] Eldar: Yeah. Right. Like on your phone. That thing on your phone by yourself bumping and grinding in her own seat. Vibing. Vibing, right? Yeah. You need to find out what toll's telling you. Yeah. What does the market want? What does 

[00:28:41] Toliy: this prospect looking for? Why are they here? Yeah. Yeah. And if you go, uh, if you think about it from like a sales end, like the first, the first step is the, like the first part of the sales process is called a discovery stage.

[00:28:53] Toliy: Yeah. Where you're trying to ask discovery questions. Yeah. To see if someone's a good fit. Like what are you doing here? Usually, yeah. If you have poor discovery, but you still book a demo, you will not get the sale. Right. Do you understand? Mm-hmm. 

[00:29:09] Eldar: Somebody probably just simp out and said, yeah, sure, let's book me for a demo.

[00:29:13] Eldar: Because they felt bad about telling you no in that moment. But trust me, when the money needs to come out, think like, oops, ghost, they're gone. Do you understand what you said? Yeah. Okay. So it, is it important to ask questions so that girl has to be prompted to ask questions like, Hey, hey, you here by yourself?

[00:29:33] Eldar: You look so pretty. Okay. A compliment, right? Boom. You look so pretty. Why are you here by yourself? Right. And Mike did that. He asked though, why are you here? She was looking for a friend or whatever, whatnot. Right? That's the discovery. What were you trying to do? Trying to have fun, trying to dance? What do you guys usually do?

[00:29:46] Eldar: Right? Then you kind of see where she's at. Oh no, I'm actually waiting for a man or whatever, or this and that. Like, what's the end goal here? And the more you dig, the more questions you ask, right? Especially if you can work in some maybe humor or whatever into it. The more you find out what's actually going on here, right?

[00:30:02] Eldar: What does she actually want? And then based on the an answers that you receive, okay, you're gonna qualify or disqualify yourself real quick. I'm just trying to have fun over here. What is it? What do you mean by fun? Well, you know, trying to get in your pants, bro. What is wrong with, what the fuck? Then you're like, yo, I got a chubby.

[00:30:21] Eldar: You know what I mean? I gotta half chubby, we can go to my house. You know what I'm saying? 

[00:30:24] Harris: Yeah. 

[00:30:25] Eldar: But if she's like, Hey, no, nothing, you know, I'm just trying to have a drink, have a good time, and just like maybe listen to the music. You're like, and you came there to dance. Disqualified. Yeah. So you're not trying to dance.

[00:30:37] Eldar: You saying you're not here front of dancing 'cause you were vibing. I see you vibing. You know, why are you sitting on the chair giving the chair a, a, a rubdown? 

[00:30:45] Harris: What the fuck? 

[00:30:45] Eldar: Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. What I'm saying is that if you have the gift of the gab, if you can talk the shit, you can get very far with your 

[00:30:53] Harris: buck.

[00:30:54] Harris: T fuck, no, fuck you. Oh fuck you. That's what I'm saying. 

[00:31:01] Eldar: Yeah. Okay. But that obviously takes, 

[00:31:05] Toliy: but it's also practice. Not, yeah. Not on, not only practice, but see, like, I, I don't, I don't know what happens first. Do you, um, do you practice these kinds of things but don't believe in them? Or do you have to first buy into them?

[00:31:20] Toliy: Well, to practice them properly because like, yeah. See that's a very good question. Like his value comes from like, like having maybe particular clothes on or a watch Yeah. Or buying a drink. Yeah. Or looking a particular way or say, hey. I have this belonging. I have that belonging, right? I make this amount of money, or I do this or I do that.

[00:31:39] Toliy: Yeah. I'm involved in this. I'm involved in sales. Like, like, you know, like if this is where he puts value in and if he's coming from that place, it'll be very hard to practice. And he, he's kind of thing. I agree with that. You'll, you'll be a fish outta water. 100%. You know? 100%. Well, that's what I'm 

[00:31:55] Eldar: saying. At the end of the day, if the focus is not on, actually what you need to be leading with is the nonsense.

[00:32:00] Eldar: Like we was talking about. If you wanna lead out of your insecurity, that's what you're gonna get. You're just gonna a bunch of rejections, you gotta go through a thousand girls in order to find one. Right? Or you disqualify them and you keep it moving. Right? So then it becomes a what? A numbers game. You go into the next first one.

[00:32:16] Eldar: Hey, how's it going? What's going on? What you, why are you here? What are you doing? Oh, I'm here. I'm waiting for my boyfriend next. Okay. Like, there's no feelings to it. You right. You don't care about that. Okay. Next, next, next, next. And you see who you're gonna fit with. You see the product fit you, the product, and you're trying to see 

[00:32:31] Toliy: the 

[00:32:31] Eldar: market fit.

[00:32:32] Toliy: Yeah. That's why I was also saying when, when, when we were doing some ear early, um, like sales training, it's not even a matter of like whether you book a deal or you not book a deal. It's about doing things properly Yeah. And asking the proper questions. Like if you did that discovery to that girl, like Eldar said, and she said, Hey, yeah, I'm just really here to darn know to watch the game and eat a nachos.

[00:32:52] Toliy: Boatload of nachos. Right. Like, if this is what, what you get out of it and like this is what happened. You asked all the right questions, did all the right things. Yeah. You came with the right outcome. Right. Like that to me is successful. Right. But then like if she said, I'm here to do eat nachos and watch the game and I have a boyfriend and then you asking her to dance and getting rejected.

[00:33:14] Toliy: Yeah. Then you are dumb ass and then feeling 

[00:33:15] Eldar: a certain 

[00:33:16] Toliy: type of way. Yeah. Then feeling a type of way about it. Yeah. You you are a dumb ass then you're a dumb ass 

[00:33:20] Eldar: and you should be, you rightfully so. You are a dumb ass. 

[00:33:22] Toliy: Yeah. 

[00:33:23] Eldar: Because a 

[00:33:23] Toliy: prospect. 

[00:33:24] Eldar: Told you, I'm here. I'm waiting for my boyfriend, looking for, I'm not gonna dance.

[00:33:28] Eldar: That's it. Like it is what it is. Yeah. Case closed. You know, obviously if a girl came and she doesn't have a boyfriend, right? Uh, but she said, I'm here to eat nachos and watch the game. You can go with the challenge. Sales has challenges, right? Mm-hmm. Is that what you find fun? Are you serious? Meaning you could kill it on the dance floor.

[00:33:50] Eldar: Boom. That's your challenge back, right? Yeah. And then she responds to it. You see, you kind of, you know, feel it out how she responds and she a gremlin and she's like, I can't wait for me. Then you're like, all right, fuck. I don't wanna fuck with her anyway because she's a gremlin. You know? But if she entertaining the thing, she, you challenged her and you're like, yeah, what the fuck is wrong with you?

[00:34:09] Eldar: Like, here you are a man, right? Let's just say, give you attention. Can give you attention. You can have more fun, personally, one-on-one with a person versus watching some fucking sports on the, on the thing. I don't know. I think that a person should always win over. That's my thing. But there has to be a compelling case.

[00:34:29] Eldar: If you are a fucking loser, you don't really have that thing, then, then 

[00:34:36] Harris: she'll watch the game. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. And that's it. And you'll feel rejected. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So she can also be a dumb 

[00:34:50] Eldar: ass. She might not know what she wants, you know? So even if you make a compelling case, she might reject you, but that's okay.

[00:34:58] Eldar: Then you can leave her like, like she's dumb and you don't feel rejected. That's also a win. Like yesterday that happened, right? Like she was kind of incoherent, you know what I mean? Like the fuck's going on here, you know? So that's perfectly fine as well. So again, you thought that we were gonna have a, uh, a conversation about getting girls.

[00:35:22] Eldar: This conversation about accountability. Mm-hmm. Always 

[00:35:27] Harris: back to that one. 

[00:35:28] Eldar: It is because at the end of the day, this podcast is about what? It's not about pointing fingers. 

[00:35:33] Harris: Yeah. 

[00:35:33] Eldar: Right. It's about pointing the finger finally at yourself and taking responsibility. Yeah, taking it responsibility and saying like, what is actually wrong with me?

[00:35:41] Eldar: What am I leading? What am I doing wrong? Right. And the more you find, uncover this little onion or whatever you wanna peel on, you peel in this onion solely, right. These layers. Right. You find out that it's, the power is all is actually within you, you know? And how you want to control this world or this reality.

[00:36:03] Eldar: There's nobody to blame. Not your teeth, not your small dick. Oh 

[00:36:07] Harris: fuck you. I'm saying you have a small dick. 

[00:36:09] Eldar: I'm just giving an example. You know what I mean? Like, you know, but it's actually who you are at the core, right. Yeah, going forward, all your profiles should say, I'm a piece of shit. I'm not gonna put that man.

[00:36:26] Eldar: Okay, fine. Even though I'm your advisor. Right. So how do you get the girls? What would you answer that? How would you answer that? 

[00:36:36] Harris: I traded as sales, use the same strategy, gather information. Uh, true. I don't think I'd, it would be able to, uh, you know, uh, if they say, no, no, I'm just here to watch the game, blah, blah, blah.

[00:36:55] Harris: I don't think I'd be able to, seriously, you're sitting here. Well, you know. 

[00:37:02] Mike: No. Nice. Uh, I was thinking about this question because I asked you this last night. Yeah. I don't know if you remember 

[00:37:07] Eldar: Uhhuh. Well, if you say it, I'll remember. 

[00:37:09] Mike: I don't know if like, uh, but my thing is like, first you have to find out what you're there for.

[00:37:16] Eldar: Yeah, absolutely. You should definitely have an intention. Yeah. Are you coming here to have fun and fuck? Oh yeah. Or are you here to actually find something potentially meaningful and strike a conversation that can be deeper and have Yeah. Real fun. 

[00:37:27] Mike: Yeah. And then once you find out what you're actually there for Yeah.

[00:37:31] Mike: You can lead with that, like, um, sure. That agenda. Mm-hmm. And then you find out who's actually there for the same thing and who's not. And you keep it moving. Yeah. You know, for sure. Because like I was also came in there Right. Something, trying something new, and I was like, all right, like, I'm not really sure what I'm here for.

[00:37:45] Mike: Like, what do you mean you're not sure? I mean, I know what I'm there for, but it's also like, I'm not like sure how to like, uh, navigate these waters. Like I've never done sales in this kind of area. Yes. So I'm trying to figure it out. Yeah. How do I go about it, but also leave the nonsense, you know, that's in my head behind and out of it, you know?

[00:38:02] Mike: Yeah. Yeah. So, um, that's why I was asking yesterday, like what kind of mindset should I come in there with mm-hmm. To be able to like, you know, not lose my head, but also have, and what did I say? I remember the answer. Yeah. Have fun. You gotta have fun. Have fun. You gotta have fun. Yeah. Don't overthink it.

[00:38:17] Mike: Have fun. Yeah. And, uh, and leave with that, you know, and like I said, 

[00:38:22] Eldar: the fun will resonate with some. Mm-hmm. And fun will not resonate with others. Like it, it just what it is. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because like totally said, right? The market is big. 

[00:38:31] Harris: Mm-hmm. 

[00:38:31] Eldar: And they're presenting different problems and different issues, right?

[00:38:34] Eldar: Mm-hmm. And different needs fits and all this other stuff, right? 

[00:38:36] Harris: Mm-hmm. 

[00:38:37] Eldar: In the bar you have, you know, a hundred girls or whatever, you know what I mean? Could have, you know, a lot of girls that have a lot of different agendas. Yeah. You know, you don't know any of those. Like some people are here for a birthday party, some are here for a bachelorette, right?

[00:38:50] Eldar: Some of them are here because they're broke up with their boyfriend. Some of them are here single in one looking for something, you know, so you don't know any of this stuff, right? Mm-hmm. So at the end of the day that, that, you know. You have to survey people. 

[00:39:01] Mike: Mm-hmm. 

[00:39:02] Eldar: Right. Yeah. And that's like putting yourself out there and I think that's what you need to be concentrating on.

[00:39:05] Eldar: But you 

[00:39:05] Mike: have to also say like, understand yourself, survey about have 

[00:39:07] Eldar: fun. 

[00:39:07] Mike: What do you, what does it mean for you to have fun in this specific thing? Because like Okay. Right. Well my, that's my initial thinking is like yeah. Like I know how to have fun in the areas that already like, you know, thrive. Yeah.

[00:39:18] Mike: Now this is something that hasn't been fun for me. Right. Like the rejection and talking to girls. Well what 

[00:39:24] Eldar: are 

[00:39:24] Mike: you 

[00:39:24] Eldar: trying to do at a bar? Right. You're trying to have some drinks. Mm-hmm. Loosen up. 

[00:39:27] Mike: Yeah. 

[00:39:28] Eldar: So you can dance. So you mo your body moves 'cause you like dancing. Yeah. Right. You like dancing. Mm-hmm.

[00:39:33] Eldar: Right. Uh. Then hopefully dance with someone. Mm-hmm. Potentially. Right. And then maybe have a meaningful conversation or two, or have fun, like some jokes or whatever. Right. Have fun. Mm-hmm. Whatever way you define fun for yourself to be. Yeah. So that's it. Mm-hmm. There's nothing more to that. Yeah. So if that's what you're looking for, that's your intention, I think that you should definitely strive towards that.

[00:39:55] Eldar: Yeah. Right. And you try that mm-hmm. Yesterday. Yeah. You know, obviously sometimes the, the market is not gonna present itself as, as the fit, which is perfectly fine. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? But if that's what you're looking for, you should definitely always make an attempt to do it. 

[00:40:11] Harris: Mm-hmm. 

[00:40:11] Eldar: If you're not making an attempt like Kara saying, right.

[00:40:14] Eldar: Then you're, you're, you are chained with insecurities about yourself or whatever, um, and you're holding yourself back from actually having fun. 

[00:40:22] Harris: Mm-hmm. 

[00:40:23] Eldar: You know, if you want to have fun, try to make an attempt to do so, you know? Yeah. And make it so where it's organic enough where it's an, it's, it's an automatic thing right now.

[00:40:36] Eldar: Maybe it's like more calculated. Mm-hmm. Because you're new to that. Yeah. Yeah. You know, but nonetheless it should be just like, yo 

[00:40:42] Mike: Well, I think ultimately, yeah, everybody wants to have fun, but it's hard to have fun when you have, um. Like the negative self-talk you mentioned. Right. Certain things that you kind of like came up in your head like, oh, I'm not good enough.

[00:40:55] Mike: My uh, bologna's not big enough. Yeah, it's okay man. It's cool. Remember you can have one big rice ball. Yes. Uh, they're offered you this. Fuck I offered you this. The ball Turkey. 

[00:41:06] Eldar: The ball's probably the size of a, like a tennis ball. A tennis ball. Yes. A tennis ball. Fuck the handball. Fuck handball is better.

[00:41:14] Eldar: Or a billiard Ball. Ball. Yes. 

[00:41:16] Toliy: Or or two quail eggs. Or two quail eggs. Yeah. Fuck. And you chose the quail eggs. Motherfucker 

[00:41:22] Harris: on record. I got grandpa balls. Motherfucker. 

[00:41:25] Eldar: Hey, fuck you Grandpa Ball. I'm just saying that you have two quail eggs and you, you chose not to have the tennis ball in there. Alright.

[00:41:31] Mike: Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, like the agenda is to have fun. But the thing is a lot of times like, uh, ne negative self talk, lack of confidence or Yeah. The lack of confidence. Lack of confidence. Does that come from. Giving power to things that are not actually real. Correct. Yeah. And I think those things they take away from having fun.

[00:41:55] Mike: 100%. Once, once you, 

[00:41:56] Eldar: uh, move through those past Yeah. When you say, I don't give a fuck. 

[00:41:59] Mike: Yeah. 

[00:41:59] Eldar: Whether you like it or not. Mm-hmm. You'll stop giving a fuck with those people that are stuck in that as well, but also in the bar. 

[00:42:06] Mike: Yeah. What, what Harris, I have an idea for you. Oh my god. You remember, uh, Eminem in the eight Mile?

[00:42:11] Mike: You seen that movie? Yeah, of course. You remember the 16, like it was the 16 where he went for the battle rap. Yeah. You remember what happened there? Does he 

[00:42:20] Toliy: throw up on himself and shit? No. He said everything that he was bad at, he said everything was bad. So he is gotta, he's like, I'm a white boy. Yeah. I'm shit.

[00:42:26] Toliy: I live in a trailer. Trailer trash. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to say, well, yeah, he, he rapped about everything that that guy was about to say about him was potentially, and then that guy grabbed the mic and he could've handed back. He could've say anything. He 

[00:42:36] Mike: couldn't say anything. That's correct. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:42:38] Mike: Yes. So you guys come in, they be like, Hey, I'm Harris. I'm a loser. I'm a piece of shit. I'm a mean asshole. I got Grandpa Paul, I'm a piece 

[00:42:44] Eldar: of shit, but I'm striving towards being a president of 2050 of the United States. Yeah. And, and they'd be like, wait, what? Yeah. You are a piece of shit or what's happening here, right.

[00:42:53] Eldar: There's like 

[00:42:54] Mike: cabinet over here and then, and then cabinet members. 

[00:42:56] Eldar: Yeah. And then you have a lot to say. Yeah. Then you have a conversation and now the person and the conversation is ju already juicy, fun and you're hooked. They're laughing. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But that's like a crazy like, uh, well at the end of the day, what are we trying to do?

[00:43:07] Eldar: I told you from this last podcast. Mm-hmm. Right? That's told you that everyone is trying to brainwash one another mm-hmm. Into their own worldview. Yeah. And we are under the assumption that our worldview is the shit. Mm-hmm. That's it. You know what I mean? 

[00:43:24] Harris: Mm-hmm. 

[00:43:25] Eldar: Who can overpower another individual into having more fun.

[00:43:30] Eldar: Yeah. That's what it really is, comes down to, right? Mm-hmm. And a lot of times if you get too serious, you're not having fun, right? Mm-hmm. And all this other crap. So I think that's what we're talking about, right? That we're presenting this very specific way of lifestyle mm-hmm. That we really believe in.

[00:43:45] Eldar: Mm-hmm. And no one can tell us anything you. It hurts. Are you tired of it? If they can, if they can tell you something, it's most likely you, yourself don't believe it in the first place, which is normal. 

[00:44:02] Harris: Mm-hmm. 

[00:44:03] Eldar: And if you do, therefore you are exactly what you're supposed to be. If you are not satisfied with your outcomes mm-hmm.

[00:44:12] Eldar: In real life, 

[00:44:13] Harris: you know? 

[00:44:14] Eldar: Yeah. So, yeah, that's what you actually are there to do. You know what I mean? Like on, um, technical level. 

[00:44:23] Harris: Mm-hmm. 

[00:44:24] Eldar: You're trying to brainwash somebody into your own reality. And if they really like it and like, oh shit, I like it. I think that's when the love starts to form. Right? The spark starts to form like, oh shit, I really want to see the world view through your eyes.

[00:44:36] Eldar: Right? Like, no, in the notebook, right? Mm-hmm. He's like, yo, what the fuck? You saw up tight. Let's lay down here in the middle of the road. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Like I wait for the car to kind of pass by or whatever. What the fuck? Look at the lights, right? I don't know if you ever saw the movie, but 

[00:44:48] Harris: mm-hmm.

[00:44:49] Eldar: Yeah. Right. That's what he was doing. Like, you're so uptight. Let's have fun. Mm-hmm. Let's have fun. Yeah. No, I got a plan for fucking 

[00:44:56] Toliy: college and money. Yeah. He, he, he was trying to bring out her, her, her be like, uh, yeah. Show her her best self that she wasn't seeing. That's right. You know? That's right.

[00:45:05] Toliy: That's what I'm saying. Like, he was trying to brainwash her mm-hmm. Into his own worldview. Yeah. And how could you not be attracted to somebody that can help bring out the best version of you? Like, that's like a guaranteed Oh, well, yeah. That's the home run. A hundred percent. 

[00:45:17] Eldar: Mm-hmm. 100%. Right. But it's, it's, it's an oppression to a degree because it's, um, it's a forceful thing almost, but it's a force that you can't refuse.

[00:45:29] Eldar: Right. Like, it's undeniable and irresistible. And I think that's what the other individual's like, yo, like, I really like this person. Like mm-hmm. They fucking have something. Yeah. And I think that piece right there. That little interaction between souls is love a hundred percent. 

[00:45:47] Harris: Yeah. 

[00:45:47] Eldar: You know what I mean?

[00:45:49] Toliy: And when that happens, yeah. I think that like, like uh, if you see somebody, like if, if you're a girl and you see a guy and you and, and, and like you see that they're living life Exactly how they want to like live it. Yeah. And you actually like feel that like Yeah, they're like, it's irresistible. 

[00:46:09] Eldar: What? Did you understand anything we just said?

[00:46:14] Eldar: No. Alright guys. But I'm also 

[00:46:17] Harris: out it, so it's a lot. That's 

[00:46:18] Eldar: fine. That's fair. Let me help you 

[00:46:22] Harris: sell you to you

[00:46:29] Eldar: Uhhuh. Hi, I'm Harris. I'm a piece of shit. Mm-hmm. However, I've only come to realize this very recently. I'm pretty mean to my friends. I. My family members, whoever is around me. However, I, I'm actually working on it and this is how I'm doing it. I come to work every single day and I try to be my true self.

[00:46:57] Eldar: And the people that I work with, they're into this thing called philosophy or we recoined and it's called Elder. Okay. In which we try to find out 

[00:47:10] Harris: who we actually are. Right? Yeah. And every day they're pointing out all the flaws in me. 

[00:47:18] Eldar: And they're really good at this. Right? And something tells me that they're right.

[00:47:24] Eldar: Not everything. 'cause I still don't trust them, you know? And sometimes I actually 

[00:47:29] Harris: mean to them, right? The way I respond to them. But I feel that their intentions are right and through their intentions. I am trying to do better. I work in sales, right. 

[00:47:49] Eldar: And every time the phone rings, I'm scared as shit. I shake, I tremble.

[00:47:56] Eldar: Sometimes the spit comes out my mouth, oh my God. PM myself. But nonetheless, sometimes I get through the call and I feel really, really good. And I have a little nubby. Yeah. And when I close a deal, fuck, it feels good. Like it's exhilarating. Mm-hmm. Something tells me that I should be continuing to pursue this career.

[00:48:15] Eldar: My dad says, no, I should go get a government job. It makes me feel really bad. He puts me down, but I love him. But he puts me down. I love him, but he puts me down. So I'm starting to actually hate him. You know? 

[00:48:30] Harris: That's a lot of information for a fucking, 

[00:48:33] Eldar: well, is this true information or not? 

[00:48:35] Harris: Yeah. But that's a lot of information for a chick.

[00:48:37] Mike: Man, you forgot to mention Crispy. I. 

[00:48:39] Eldar: Yeah, 

[00:48:39] Mike: I got a very 

[00:48:40] Eldar: weird friend. 

[00:48:41] Toliy: Yeah. I'm gonna' gonna be, and if we're gonna be together, you're gonna have to accept that. 

[00:48:44] Eldar: Yeah. You know, and the truth of the matter is, I'm okay. You want me to fast forward? The truth of the matter is, I think I'm living a pretty cool life right now.

[00:48:51] Eldar: You know, I used to be homeless, but now I have a home, and this home I come to work and I enjoy myself. I'm surrounded by guys who are investing into me. You know what I mean? And I have an opportunity to really succeed. And if I do, fuck, it's gonna be sick. I go to Bermuda now. I love Bermuda. It's my favorite island.

[00:49:07] Eldar: I like to travel. You know what I mean? Like what I'm trying to tell you. I'm trying to paint the actual picture of what's actually going on. You never lead with this picture. But the truth of the matter is, to me at least, this is not only the truth, but it's as cool as fuck. So to hear, anytime, to hear, right.

[00:49:28] Eldar: Anyone who leads with the truth, right? This type of truth, and then gets the results. It's amazing. It's like, holy shit. Like look at that accomplishment because people will fuck with you. When people hear this kind of stuff, they're like, yo, what the fuck? This is an interesting story. I'd like to know more.

[00:49:44] Eldar: Like, who are you? Why are you, what's going on here? You know what I mean? There's a lot to unpack. That's what's interesting, and as human beings, I think we're wired to listen to and hear this kind of interesting shit because Why? Because we want to actually relate. We want to relate with others because why?

[00:50:02] Eldar: At the end of the day, we're all suffering. Life is not easy. We're all suffering. There's problems all the time. You understand? 

[00:50:11] Harris: Yeah. 

[00:50:11] Eldar: Financial problems, family problems, relationship problems, personal anxieties, personal insecurities. All these things are holding us back from being truly happy. But if you find someone that you can journey this thing called life together with consciously, right?

[00:50:32] Eldar: You will actually experience love, I think. Mm-hmm. And when you do in those moments, life will become easier. And the things that feel like that they're hard are become much easier 

[00:50:46] Harris: and you accomplish them effortlessly. Mm-hmm. Right. And you start to grow, but 

[00:50:53] Eldar: you'll have to become true to yourself and true with the world.

[00:50:56] Eldar: Until you bridge that gap, 

[00:50:59] Harris: it's impossible to be happy. So I'm with the earth, that's a pretty serious conclusion, 

[00:51:07] Eldar: if that's what you wanna call it. Sure. 

[00:51:09] Harris: I'm going with Elder here. I'm with the earth man. Well, it's not elder. I'm saying it's philosophy, I think. Yeah, I know. You know what I mean? Like Sure.

[00:51:17] Harris: Well we call 

[00:51:17] Eldar: it elder. Sure. We call it elder. Sure. You know, but it's, it's heroism because Harris, like I told you, has something to offer. You are funny. Naturally and organically. That's why you fit in. In that sense. You suck at sales. Thank you. Right. And sometimes you are mean in a piece of shit. Right?

[00:51:40] Eldar: Okay. Right now, the effort to be nice is an actual effort we're trying to say and sell you on the fact that this should be your default and you should lead with that because that's who you actually are. You are a nice guy. You're not some fucking big, bad bully who's ready to punch somebody in the face.

[00:51:59] Eldar: Because the truth of the matter is if you wanna get in the ring with any of us, we'll fuck you up. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. Okay? So if you want to challenge that ever, trust me, it's open. It's open. We won't hold. We won't hold it against him, correct? No. We'll punch him in the face, we'll knock you out, and then you can still come back to work.

[00:52:17] Eldar: Okay? That is the truth. But you don't have to leave with that. Yeah, you can lead with the fact that you're a nice cuddly little bear rice ball. 

[00:52:25] Harris: What the hell, man? You know what I'm saying? 

[00:52:28] Eldar: Oh, all right. So that's my attempt to sell you to you as much as I could. Can you sell yourself now? Right. Can you do it?

[00:52:41] Eldar: That's the question. And when you can finally, I think it's gonna be a, a beautiful journey. It's gonna be crazy

[00:52:51] Eldar: To your dad, to your mom, to your brother, to girl. Just walk up 

[00:52:55] Harris: to my dad like, Hey dad, I'm a piece of shit. No. 

[00:52:59] Eldar: I realize I've been an actor for a very long time. I've been trying to hide and play this, this game called Hide and Seek. I don't wanna hide anymore. Tell my true 

[00:53:06] Harris: feelings. 

[00:53:07] Eldar: Yeah. I, I'm not looking for a job and I'm not gonna look for a job and you're gonna be okay with it, dad, because you know why?

[00:53:13] Eldar: 'cause you're my dad and you wish the best for me. And trust me, this is, this is what you actually want. I love you, dad. That's how it's gonna be. 

[00:53:23] Toliy: And the socks going on the door. So get outta my room. 

[00:53:25] Eldar: Yeah. Socks going on. The door is going on room because of right now, I'm getting really hard from my speech.

[00:53:30] Harris: What is wrong with you, 

[00:53:32] Eldar: man?

[00:53:35] Eldar: You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's the truth. Did I lie, did I say anything? That was not true. No. There you go. You have your oldest negative self-talk so embedded in you that you can only hear nice things from other people. Right now you are in your own prison and rightfully so. You should be because you are a piece of shit.

[00:53:59] Eldar: Thank you. You are welcome. But you confirmed it. Yeah, I did Earlier 

[00:54:02] Harris: today. Yeah. 

[00:54:04] Eldar: Yeah. So I'm glad that you thanking me for the con recon reconfirmation. Yeah, there you go. So when you start working on it, consciously start doing better for yourself, and you're trying, I know you're trying, um, when it becomes natural to you, you'll see.

[00:54:19] Eldar: You will start shining. Not only to us, 

[00:54:23] Harris: but to yourself. Most importantly, that's the most important thing.

[00:54:32] Harris: And then one day you can lead with that 

[00:54:35] Eldar: when it comes to the girls. But for now, you should spend $150 and go fuck a, you know, an Asian girl, a massage bar. What's wrong 

[00:54:43] Harris: with you, 

[00:54:44] Eldar: man? What I'm just saying, if there's an itch, you can fucking itch it.

[00:54:51] Harris: So you're saying 

[00:54:52] Eldar: join Crispy 100%, but know why you joining. Right. Sooner or later you should get an ick from that experience. Right? You can only do it for so long. 'cause it's like, oh fuck man. You know? Like, what am I doing here? 

[00:55:06] Harris: Yeah. Because when you are nuts, one person I know that's gonna do that for the rest of his life, most likely 

[00:55:10] Eldar: him.

[00:55:11] Eldar: Mm-hmm. Who 

[00:55:13] Harris: crispy. Really? Why you don't think he'll get, he'll get it. He made it perfectly clear. Mm-hmm. He does not wanna settle down. Why not? He doesn't want the commitment. Why not even his, uh, why not 

[00:55:32] Eldar: the commitment my friend? Answer me the fucking question. I'm gonna ask you very specific question.

[00:55:35] Eldar: I've 

[00:55:35] Harris: never asked him. Okay. So saying just bs I've never asked him, but you, even his family members, you're not 

[00:55:41] Eldar: doing what? You're not interrogating the situation, interrogating the situation. You're not fucking looking at the market and asking the right questions. Right. When you get to the bottom of it, then you can speak to me.

[00:55:51] Eldar: 'cause right now everything you're gonna say is gonna be a heart of a, a load of crap hogwash. 

[00:55:57] Harris: Hmm. 

[00:55:57] Eldar: He, he made a perfect scenario.

[00:56:06] Mike: How 

[00:56:06] Harris: you done? Hey, you wanna do me a favor? 

[00:56:09] Mike: Uh, sure. What else you got for you? Me. Oh, thank you so much. 

[00:56:13] Eldar: So those individuals were just hopping around from one partner to another, to another, to another, to another. It's not necessarily a fun thing to do. No. Right. Because at the end of the day, when they're done with it, right, the reason why they hop in and they have to get ghost them or tell them politely that they're not interested in them and all this other stuff, it's 'cause they're not really truly happy yet and they can't let 

[00:56:35] Toliy: the other person find out that they're a piece of shit.

[00:56:36] Eldar: Correct. They can't. So that's why you have to keep playing this hide and seek game with everyone because you can only present a very specific cover of your book. That's it. You understand? Yeah. That is why the easiest path to victory to those individuals. At least I would advise, get a hooker. Fuck the shit out of her.

[00:56:57] Eldar: Up until the point you can't do it anymore. Or you run outta money, you finally ask yourself like, yeah, what am I doing here? Am I actually having fun? 

[00:57:06] Harris: That's it. Get it outta your system and then go actually, and, and figure it out. That's it. Okay. So buying girls drinks 

[00:57:18] Eldar: probably is, for you at least, it's a waste of money.

[00:57:21] Eldar: Maybe not if you're looking for a little small boost of confidence. Oh, she looked at me because I bought her a drink and she said high. Oh, she waved at me. So what? Get yourself a plate of nachos and shut the fuck up. You, you fucking pussy. Yeah. Oh, fuck you. So how are we doing with the topic of getting girls 

[00:57:40] Harris: good?

[00:57:41] Eldar: Yeah. What'd you learn?

[00:57:45] Harris: That I'm not ready to jump into it. 

[00:57:48] Eldar: You 

[00:57:49] Mike: know what? That is the best conclusion you can make. 

[00:57:51] Harris: Yeah. 

[00:57:52] Mike: So you're not coming out with me anymore. 

[00:57:53] Harris: Yeah, I'll come out with you, 

[00:57:55] Toliy: but I'm not gonna, you know. No. You gotta just feed the drinks to Mike so it can saves money. Like you're, you're making an investment. I'll come 

[00:58:00] Harris: out with you.

[00:58:01] Harris: I'll be a wing man. 

[00:58:02] Toliy: But you're not gonna 

[00:58:02] Mike: pop 

[00:58:03] Toliy: up it Oh, you're not 

[00:58:03] Mike: gonna 

[00:58:04] Toliy: be a wing man. Let's get 

[00:58:04] Mike: that 

[00:58:05] Toliy: clear. Yeah. Let's be clear. Yeah. Come on, man. Yeah, I 

[00:58:06] Harris: was trying to pump him up a little bit. Yeah. What, 

[00:58:09] Toliy: what if you guys run like a skit, like you're, that like harassing guy at the bar, Mike saves the girl from you.

[00:58:15] Toliy: And then like that, it's like the little like, uh, ploy. Oh, you wanna do that? I would love that. Right. And 

[00:58:19] Eldar: I, I, I'll take the whole thing. 

[00:58:21] Toliy: Yeah. Yeah. That's a pretty good one. Yeah. Mm-hmm. You're like the guy who like doesn't get and stuff like that. And then Mike likes in do the sloppy even with her. Yeah. And when 

[00:58:28] Harris: he's leaving with her, we just, I five.

[00:58:30] Harris: Yeah. You might, 

[00:58:32] Toliy: Mike, Mike might have to beat the shit out of you like a few times. Yeah, that's fine. Throughout the process. Cool with that, man. Go easy on me, man. Yeah. 

[00:58:41] Eldar: He's a sloppy drunk. Yeah. That'll be funny. Yeah. 

[00:58:48] Mike: Mike, what do you got? No, I got nothing, man. Listening to you guys. Good. 

[00:58:55] Toliy: I also think that not, not, not, not like in the way maybe that he's thinking about it, but I think that there's no way for him to be good at, at this kind of stuff until like, uh, like, like I see it ha happening like, uh, I dunno if it's side by side, but like him getting good at sales will result in him getting good at this 

[00:59:14] Eldar: 100%.

[00:59:15] Toliy: Not, not because of the sales element Exactly, but because of the type of person that requires for the success. Yes. You're required to be successful at this. Mm-hmm. Is the same type of person that will be 100% useful there too. 100%. 

[00:59:29] Eldar: The thing is, um, transformation is what the girl stuff though. With the girl stuff though, you can get drunk and you can find places where people get drunk, very drunk, right?

[00:59:38] Eldar: Mm-hmm. And you can slide into those things. You could become good at that too. Yeah. Which is not obviously good for you, but Yeah. But you can get there. 

[00:59:45] Toliy: Yeah. But I have a feeling that if he's around on the phone, like that's not 

[00:59:47] Eldar: what he wants to on the phone at work. You can't do that. No. You can't just like get hammered and start having good conversations.

[00:59:53] Toliy: No, but you could like to, to, to me, the equivalent of that would be like, you could double on lying. You 

[01:00:00] Eldar: can't do it here. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can't do it here. You could do it somewhere else. May Yeah. Yeah. To prop up the numbers. Right. But like we're listening to the calls. I'm sitting there. Yeah. Like every time he says something stupid, I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?

[01:00:11] Eldar: Yeah. What the fuck are you saying? Like, if I wasn't there. Yes. Yeah. You can get away with that. 

[01:00:15] Harris: Yeah. 

[01:00:16] Eldar: Maybe if nobody cares, or only somebody cared about numbers. Yeah. You know what I mean? But it's not about the numbers game here, it's about cash. You don't wanna 

[01:00:23] Harris: do that because then you become even more of a piece of shit.

[01:00:26] Toliy: Yeah. Well, yeah. My point is that like, if you. If you stick around here, that's the 

[01:00:30] Harris: people that my dad calls. No souls salesman. Exactly. 

[01:00:35] Toliy: Yeah. Yeah. And like if, if you're sticking around here, then I have a feeling that you won't wanna do what what world is saying is an option for, for some like you, you, you just won't be able to do that.

[01:00:47] Eldar: Yeah, you can't. I mean, it's gonna be, it's impossible. You know? You excited? 

[01:00:54] Harris: Yeah. 

[01:00:55] Eldar: A little nervous. 

[01:00:56] Harris: Yeah. 

[01:00:57] Harris: Okay. Yeah. 

[01:00:59] Eldar: But you see, right, like I gave you that light, I gave you that path to how you should actually be right in the state that you are now. If you're not ready to execute on that, that's perfectly fine.

[01:01:11] Eldar: You can polish stuff a little bit. So just walk up 

[01:01:13] Harris: to him. 

[01:01:14] Eldar: Uhhuh, my name is What? 

[01:01:17] Harris: Who? Slim Shady. Slim Harris. You know I'm a piece of shit. But I'm working on it. Yeah. I have a good group of friends, blah, blah, blah. Uh, but well, no, no, you don't say it as a ramble. You don't, you say it as a conversation. I mean, like, you, you fucking said it as a ramble.

[01:01:33] Harris: Well, he, well, he, he said everything, but I just said everything to 

[01:01:36] Eldar: you for I'm trying to sell you to you, God damnit. But 

[01:01:39] Harris: I said, he say basically, I know it looks bad right now, but in 25 years, yeah. You better believe it. I'm gonna be president of the United States. That's right. 

[01:01:47] Eldar: Yeah. Something along those lines.

[01:01:49] Eldar: My cabinet members. There you go. Right. And like, if they do meet the cabinet members, like we're gonna be able to stick up for you. For example, like we know the conversation. There's a reason that like, we have the vision, right. For this thing and what we're doing. And I'm gonna tell you right now, there's nobody can challenge us.

[01:02:06] Eldar: That's how I actually feel like, especially me. Totally. And Micah present. Like who can say something? 

[01:02:12] Harris: Yeah. Who? Yeah. 

[01:02:14] Eldar: Tell me. I don't think anyone. No. You know what I mean? Because we actually believe in what we believe. Yeah. You know? 

[01:02:21] Harris: I know. That's why when people hear what you're saying, bro, they laugh and you staring at 'em like 

[01:02:25] Eldar: Yeah.

[01:02:26] Eldar: What are 

[01:02:26] Harris: you laughing at? Exactly. 

[01:02:28] Eldar: Exactly. You know? But this is our world. This is our reality, and we choose to enjoy it and have fun with it. 

[01:02:35] Harris: Yeah. 

[01:02:35] Eldar: Like it or not, like, fuck off. You know what I mean? Show me better. You know what I mean? Who's doing it better? 

[01:02:42] Harris: You 

[01:02:42] Eldar: know? I don't know. This is my shit. I love it.

[01:02:47] Harris: You know, 

[01:02:47] Harris: it's a good time. 

[01:02:48] Eldar: Yeah.

[01:02:52] Eldar: And you could sell everyone here in this room the same way. 

[01:02:54] Harris: Yeah. 

[01:02:56] Eldar: But if you have negative self-talk, it's very difficult. You can't actually present yourself the right way. That's what I told her is like, oh, elder's the only one who could fucking like show everyone their ass, you know what I mean? Like, and keep a straight face and have fun with it and all this other stuff.

[01:03:12] Eldar: And people are like, what the fuck is happening? And you know, I'm like, I'm just toying with the situation, with the re with that, with that specific moment. Yeah. 

[01:03:19] Harris: You know? 

[01:03:22] Eldar: But the truth is, I think everybody wants the same thing, right? To be able to come up to a girl, say whatever you want to say, say your pitch.

[01:03:30] Eldar: Okay. The response is the response. Not take in the response. If it's a, it's the one that you didn't want. See it for what it is and keep it moving. Right. And not care about the response. Because the truth of mine, there's more fish in that pond, you know? In this world. Yeah. Who's gonna be able to fuck with that kind of shit?

[01:03:47] Eldar: And it's been proven too. You know, some girls actually fucked you. You know what I mean? Like, what the fuck? You know what I mean? Oh. Or maybe you made that up. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What do you mean 

[01:03:59] Harris: fuck me? It's the other way around, man. I fuck shit. That's weird, man. Mm-hmm. I don't know what you'd be doing in your life, man.

[01:04:08] Harris: Yeah. Fine. No one's no one. Make that clear. 

[01:04:14] Eldar: All right, Harris, if you have nothing else to say or I don't, gimme some final thoughts on picking up girls.

[01:04:22] Harris: I gotta really think about it. Ah, okay. Problem is, I never think about it and try to come up with a game plan. I just, you just kinda wing it. Right. I'll wing it. Yeah. And then you always unprepared. Right. Always ends with the same thing. Go buy him a drink, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Go fucking shoot him over some shots, you know?

[01:04:39] Harris: Yeah.

[01:04:43] Harris: And then, you know, you remember bits of the night, but you don't really remember shit. 

[01:04:47] Harris: Yeah. 

[01:04:48] Eldar: Yeah. That's how you end up spending $800 in the strip, in the stripper club. 

[01:04:55] Harris: Hey man, 

[01:04:57] Eldar: dude was doing. 

[01:04:57] Harris: And when you don't have friends that are looking after you, man. Oh, of course. I'm not gonna call anyone out. Okay.

[01:05:04] Harris: We all know. We all know. Uh, yeah. And, uh, about four, $400 in New York on drinks with, uh. Girls over there. 

[01:05:17] Eldar: Well, at least you got something right out of it. Yeah. 

[01:05:19] Harris: Hmm. It costs a little bit more than, than when you look at the, uh, bank account the next day. 

[01:05:24] Eldar: Yeah. Not so pretty. 

[01:05:28] Harris: No. On top of that, you're, you're spending, uh, more money on the hotel that you, that you booked for the weekend.

[01:05:36] Eldar: That's right. That's right. All for what? You could have went to $150 and got your nut out. That's not as fun though. Right. You want the night, you want the night, you want to, you want to try. Well, you think about going 

[01:05:49] Harris: out with the boys, enjoying yourself. Yeah. You know, 

[01:05:51] Eldar: completely understand. But when you end the night and you're like, ah, I didn't get my money's worth, then it's like you kind of failed.

[01:05:58] Eldar: Yeah. You know what I mean? But if you bought drinks, you had fun and somebody sucked your dick right at the bar thinking like, yo, we had a really good night. 

[01:06:05] Harris: What the fuck? Yeah. 

[01:06:07] Eldar: You know what I'm saying? That's what you want. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. So you know. Yo, I, you know, we gotta do it here.

[01:06:13] Eldar: I didn't even have the time to go to the hotel. 

[01:06:16] Harris: Yeah. But doing what I'm currently doing, like what, what my go-to is mm-hmm. Turns the habits into everyday things. It can turn it into everyday things. 

[01:06:26] Eldar: Mm-hmm. What 

[01:06:27] Harris: does that 

[01:06:27] Eldar: mean?

[01:06:30] Harris: You know, you get so used to doing what you're doing, it can turn into more frequent, you know what I'm saying? Like what you talking about? 

[01:06:38] Toliy: He's talking about going to these, uh, releases more, more frequently. Like a daily account. No, I'm talking about drinking more and all this shit. 

[01:06:46] Harris: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:06:47] Harris: Can lead to that. Especially with my Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. My history predisposition. 

[01:06:54] Eldar: Okay, fine. Yeah. When you turn your mind on, you can't really turn it off. It's gonna be very difficult. You would probably have to turn it off, take a long nap to turn it really off. 

[01:07:09] Harris: You know what I'm saying? Think about it last night, man.

[01:07:11] Harris: All right, cool. How'd you do? I didn't 

[01:07:13] Harris: sleep, man. Okay. 

[01:07:15] Harris: Slept two hours, man. Yeah, when I got home. 

[01:07:17] Eldar: At least you didn't jump in front, in front of the train. 

[01:07:20] Toliy: Wait, why? Why'd you sleep two hours? 

[01:07:23] Harris: No, that's totally different then. Yeah. It comes in waves. Totally. What? 

[01:07:31] Harris: The stuff he's dealing with? Yeah. The, the invisible things.

[01:07:35] Harris: Oh, what do you mean invisible, man? 

[01:07:36] Eldar: Are 

[01:07:36] Harris: they visible? What do you mean invisible? 

[01:07:40] Eldar: Well, what do you mean visible? If I say invisible? You like, what do you mean? That it's, no, they're visible, right? What are they? Somebody was breaking into your house. 

[01:07:51] Harris: Whoa. Yeah. Your mom was trying to get in last night. Hmm? She was jiggling the door.

[01:07:57] Harris: So 

[01:07:57] Eldar: what's the, what's the visible things? 

[01:07:58] Harris: It's not visible unless you knew what it was. So they're invisible? Yeah. 

[01:08:02] Eldar: Okay. So the invisible, what do you mean? Unless you knew what it was? You're really good at making it invisible, visible. Wow. Holy 

[01:08:11] Harris: shit. 

[01:08:11] Eldar: Are 

[01:08:11] Harris: you saying that to me? It's, it's, 

[01:08:14] Eldar: it's real. Well, sure.

[01:08:16] Eldar: I'm 

[01:08:16] Harris: glad that you used the word, to me, that's a very subjective statement, right. I've been medicated for these 

[01:08:21] Harris: specific problems. Mm-hmm. So what, what happened since you No, I, I get it. I know. Well, I don't know if it's the medication. Mm-hmm. But once in a while I'll have like these, I don't even wanna say down here, but these manic illusions episodes, uhhuh, where the mind can't turn off 

[01:08:40] Toliy: and what happens?

[01:08:42] Harris: You can't sleep. 

[01:08:43] Toliy: So what? Yeah, but what were you thinking about or like doing? The mind was just racing Where about what, what, what topic? 

[01:08:51] Harris: Everything. What's going on in life? You know, this, this, this, uh. You couldn't feed the guy. What's this person? You know you 

[01:08:57] Mike: couldn't feed the worm. Yeah, the worm. They don't want to eat.

[01:09:00] Mike: What's wrong with you? Look, it's just a whole bunch of shit, bro. Wait, 

[01:09:04] Harris: wait, wait, wait, wait. Yeah, basically like flashes everything that's going on with Did the worm, Hey, did 

[01:09:08] Harris: the 

[01:09:09] Harris: worm eat? 

[01:09:11] Harris: What did the warm did? Just feed wubby. Did you feed the worm? 

[01:09:15] Eldar: Come on man. Did you feed the worm? Oh, what's the 

[01:09:18] Mike: problem?

[01:09:19] Eldar: Before it happened or after it happened? I wanna know. Yeah. No, this is important. I think that's trick question. Elder. I think the answer is both before and after. No, it was 

[01:09:27] Harris: before. 

[01:09:28] Eldar: Oh, you fed the worm before 

[01:09:30] Toliy: and 

[01:09:30] Mike: then still and then again afterwards for the, you can't feed the worm before you go out, man.

[01:09:34] Mike: Everybody knows that. No, not before. No, it's before movie, man. Before the episode happened, man. Before. 

[01:09:38] Harris: Yeah. Who wants to be married? Yeah. You know, I got home, I felt tired, but then when I actually got in bed, 

[01:09:44] Toliy: yeah. You have to feed the worm? No, but why? Why do people call that a manic episode? Like how, how are we labeling it as that?

[01:09:52] Toliy: Manic. Well, because you have those, no, A normal man manic is 

[01:09:54] Harris: basically meaning you're wide awake. 

[01:09:56] Eldar: Yeah. You're not going to sleep. Okay. And what are you trying to do in this moment? Trying to go to sleep or, no, I'm trying to go to sleep. Dude, what wrong with you 

[01:10:02] Toliy: clothes? I'm rolling back. Yeah, 

[01:10:03] Eldar: but why are you doing this?

[01:10:05] Eldar: Yeah, I've had this 

[01:10:06] Toliy: plenty of times. 

[01:10:06] Eldar: Yeah. You can't go to sleep, so why are you doing, why are you trying to go to sleep? Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm gonna be dead to the world. Do you see this or no? See what you're doing. What? Well, you're wide awake and you're trying to go to sleep. Yeah. I'm trying to force myself to go to sleep.

[01:10:20] Eldar: Well, well how, how's this been going for you? Like how does that work? Or if I don't. Which you didn't dead 

[01:10:27] Toliy: the next work, 

[01:10:27] Eldar: but which you didn't. Right. You said you slept on two hours only. Yeah. 

[01:10:31] Toliy: So what you did did not work. Right. What do you expect me to do? Just turn on the tv? Yeah. No, I, yeah. I'm actually gonna expect 

[01:10:37] Eldar: for you to go play video games.

[01:10:39] Eldar: Right. Play, uh, practice typing, eat a bunch of food. Yeah. Eat a bunch of food. Watch. Yeah. Talk to somebody online if somebody's awake. Yeah. Causes around. Mm-hmm. You see, like, you, you not thinking outside of the box. We're trying to help you think outside 

[01:10:54] Harris: the box. No, because ever when, when these episodes happened since I was a kid.

[01:10:57] Harris: Mm-hmm. Don't turn on the tv. Who told you this? Huh? I was raised that way. Ah, okay. Do you understand that? You can't see? What does it mean though? Ceiling? 

[01:11:06] Toliy: Like, I understand. How are we like, 'cause like that's why once the goddamn psychiatrist smoking calls someone, when I think about a manic episode, like I picture him like a spider on top of the roof, just like and hitting the wall.

[01:11:17] Toliy: Yeah. J that's like, that's what the psych psychiatrist 

[01:11:20] Harris: have always called it is it's a manic episode. And basically it's someone that is not going to sleep. They're wide awake, you know? Mm-hmm. And for some people it can last only a day for some people. When last, when did, when did you know 

[01:11:33] Eldar: that you were about to have this episode?

[01:11:36] Harris: Probably after I took my knockout biz, that would usually knock me out. Okay. It didn't. Okay. And my psychiatrist always told me if that happened. Okay. Pop another 100 milligrams of Seroquel 

[01:11:52] Harris: Uhhuh, uh, and. See if it helps. You tried? I tried and didn't work. Didn't work. Okay. And what did you I thought about time.

[01:12:00] Harris: Thought about popping another one. What time? What time was this?

[01:12:06] Harris: 11 45, 11 50. Oh, so you came right, right away when tried to do it? Yeah. Like, okay. And then I just basically kept rolling over for the rest of the night, night until eventually five in the morning. You finally rolled it all over? Yeah. Okay. I woke up. So you were, you were rolling in bed for five hours. Look, 

[01:12:26] Eldar: you're not, this is not so late.

[01:12:27] Eldar: Like I'm still up. Probably, Mike's probably still up. Maybe. Maybe. Totally ISS up. I don't know. You could call me. I'll tell you exactly what the fuck to do. Yeah, yeah. I was up, I 

[01:12:36] Mike: was sitting in the kitchen, bro. 

[01:12:38] Eldar: Yeah, 

[01:12:38] Harris: you was, Mike was probably making fucking, I didn't even think you guys a video bro. I was looking at two o'clock in the morning.

[01:12:43] Harris: I was thinking about like texting on the group job. 

[01:12:47] Eldar: T cousin, man. Cause Oh yeah, T Cause is on a different time zone. Dude. 

[01:12:52] Harris: He's already up co barely answers anything bro. Try 

[01:12:54] Toliy: go on like a fucking uh, like a cheddar bait or something. Oh my God, dude. I'm gonna tell you right now, Harris, do 

[01:13:03] Eldar: you have these often?

[01:13:05] Harris: Every other couple 

[01:13:06] Eldar: months? Yeah. Okay, fine. When you do have it, I think you have to embrace it. Say, okay, God, are you here? Okay, let's have fun. Let's see what you got. Challenge it. Yeah. Watch a movie. Oh, it's not working. You can't concentrate. Okay. Play a video game, bro. Eating food and 

[01:13:23] Mike: Yeah, 

[01:13:23] Eldar: and feeding. 

[01:13:24] Mike: The worm is gonna kill you, bro.

[01:13:25] Mike: Yeah. Nothing's stopping you. You feed the worm. Feed the worm couple times and eat some food, or you fucking do the weirdest shit. 

[01:13:33] Eldar: Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You don't entertain the thoughts. You entertaining the thoughts? Do you fall asleep? You twist and turn, do you fall asleep 

[01:13:39] Mike: to your TV or no? No. 

[01:13:41] Eldar: Oh, well, I fall asleep to my tv.

[01:13:42] Eldar: Always, bro. That's, that's my remedy, bro. I put on something to watch. Yeah. Till I listen to this shit, I'm bummed Bum done. I, I, I literally, I cannot fall asleep without it. And that's okay. Yeah, me too. I don't care about that. I can't fall, literally go on 

[01:13:54] Toliy: like on a YouTube and I start watching some like show or some like podcast or something.

[01:14:00] Toliy: Cooking show or, or, or that. Right. And then now, now I, I didn't even actually know that this existed before. Yeah. Which is crazy. There's a timer button. Yeah. Right. But yeah, I, I set the timer for, I, I actually actually an iPad or a tv? No, on, on phone. Now. I, I, oh, the phone happens. You should do it on I iPad.

[01:14:16] Toliy: I had no phone at the time either. Oh, nice. To shut off. To lock on, on a, on a YouTube. Yeah. Oh, really? I didn't, I do it every night. Now I don't watch, put a half, half an hour timer. Yeah. So then I doze off then some more time happens. Yeah. And then it just shuts off and that's it. Yeah. 

[01:14:30] Eldar: Harris. I lay in bed with Katherine.

[01:14:32] Eldar: Katherine's like kind of dozing you off, falling asleep. If I can't go to sleep, I tell her, babe, I can't go to sleep. I'm going downstairs. That's it. I go play video games. I eat cereal, I do the shit, and I walk around. Whatever I do, whatever. I jerk off if I have to, and I get it out and that's it. And I calm down.

[01:14:47] Eldar: When I calm down, I go to sleep. What the fuck? I don't, I don't fight this shit. I don't fight it. I used to fight it a long time ago when I couldn't go to sleep. I'm like, oh. And then I start stressing like, fuck, it's 11, 0 12 1, 

[01:14:59] Harris: 2, 3. Oh the fuck. That's what I was looking at. I looking at my fucking phone the entire time.

[01:15:03] Harris: I'm like, fuck that. 

[01:15:04] Eldar: I'm like, fuck that. I'm gonna go and have fun. I'm gonna do things that I actually like. That's it. Mm-hmm. You're up anyway. It's like you are up anyway. You watch ghost buses, bro. That's it for your mind. Yeah. Your mind doesn't wanna fucking, doesn't want to let you sleep. No problem. Yeah, but on a weekday, I don't do that, bro.

[01:15:18] Eldar: I just, yeah, you have to let I, I gotta be up at this time, but it's 

[01:15:23] Toliy: hard to do that. I have to. 

[01:15:24] Eldar: No, no, no. I have a conscious thing. I tell Kat right away. I like, babe, can't sleep going downstairs. Bye. That's it. 

[01:15:31] Mike: Yeah. But you have work. But also like, what's the point? If you come to work at nine o'clock but you're useless.

[01:15:36] Mike: Yeah. You might Well come at 11 and be useful. Use. Exactly. You have Oh yeah. You have a bad boss who doesn't let you do whatever you want. Yes. Let you take three hour lunches, drink on the job. Oh my 

[01:15:48] Harris: God. The fuck. Yeah. You know, but, and I was like thinking to myself the entire time like, oh, you had to do it this fucking night.

[01:15:55] Harris: You know, I got a fucking demo at fucking 10. Am you stupid. Son of a bitch. And I was calling myself, which didn't even 

[01:16:01] Eldar: show 

[01:16:01] Harris: up. Yeah. I don't know. But I was, I was bugging my fucking brain out like, you stupid son. Bitch. Like, you gonna fucking do this now Paris, 

[01:16:09] Eldar: what you're going through is, sorry to say is not unique bro.

[01:16:15] Eldar: Been there, done that a thousand times. These guys been there. Well then, well, lemme ask you a question thousand, why does the 

[01:16:21] Harris: psychiatrist make it think like it's just you? You got the bipolar I because the psychiatrist 

[01:16:25] Eldar: didn't do a good job going to school and did it fucking actually pay attention.

[01:16:29] Eldar: Doesn't actually have the curiosity to find out. Like they don't know what, what they're talking about was bipolar. 

[01:16:34] Harris: Like, you're gonna be up, this is it. Yeah. Mm-hmm. You could be up from one day, you could be up early and it's easy 

[01:16:38] Eldar: because it's easy because they have an equation that they think that they solved by giving you medication and all this other stuff.

[01:16:44] Eldar: Sometimes you'll have side effects. Right. But side effects is actually where the truth is actually embodied in. If you figure out that truth, you actually cure your whole fucking situation because if I gave you a tool right now, right, to solve your bipolar, trust me, you're not gonna reach for those pills.

[01:16:59] Eldar: You're gonna be like, yeah, I know exactly what to do. 

[01:17:02] Harris: Mm-hmm. 

[01:17:02] Mike: Fuck the extra 

[01:17:03] Eldar: rel. That's how I felt. Like 

[01:17:05] Mike: his whole, his whole thing that you have these conditions. Yeah. If you actually. Pay attention, get to the bottom of it. You don't have to keep using The crazy part is that's how, that's the whole world.

[01:17:12] Mike: That's the therapy, bro. The, the crazy 

[01:17:14] Harris: part is Yeah. That I've been on these meds for so long. Yeah. But I can't sleep without 'em anymore. Well, yeah. For now, you as a, for now Yeah. As a, uh, knock out. Yeah. You've got for 

[01:17:27] Toliy: anything I, I, I, I was using for a while, you, you probably remember. Yeah. I was using the weed pen and I would take like two hits, sometimes three before falling asleep Yeah.

[01:17:38] Toliy: To fall asleep. And I, and I got to a point where there's no chance that I could fall asleep without it. No chance. Weed is like a basic, like legal thing, right? The the crazy part was, I can only imagine a strong prescription fucking thing. Yeah. The crazy part was you get 

[01:17:56] Harris: reliant on it. Of course, the, the crazy part was that I got so used to taking the meds that I couldn't fall asleep anymore.

[01:18:02] Harris: Mm-hmm. So the doctors started prescribing me, you know, harder and harder shit. Mm. Yeah. Here's a hundred milligrams of Trazodone. Oh shit, that's not working anymore. Here's 200, here's 300. Oh. And they were fucking doping me up. And you know, I had someone tell me, they go, how the fuck do you do that? He goes, you know, I take 50 milligrams of fucking Trazodone and I knock out.

[01:18:22] Harris: I said, no, you know, do a thousand. And every time it didn't work. They just kept raising and raising and raising. 

[01:18:28] Eldar: Hence that you not supposed to live past 30, my friend. Yeah. 

[01:18:32] Mike: What do you think, bro? Do you, when you come home, like do you have a feel like, are you generally exhausted, like tired or, of course he's tired now, bro.

[01:18:38] Mike: Like I'm tired now because of the meds. Right. They completely drain him all the time. Yeah. But 

[01:18:43] Harris: this is from. 

[01:18:45] Toliy: I was not on meds. I was tired as, as soon as I got into the office. I can only imagine him. He's tired. Always. He doesn't, 

[01:18:52] Eldar: yeah, bro. It's like you're doing drugs, Mike, you, we drink, right? Yeah. Like tomorrow we're gonna have a little bit of hangover, right?

[01:18:57] Eldar: Like 

[01:18:58] Harris: mm-hmm. That's the same shit. The, the meds have like a lasting effect. Of course. But the crazy part was when I was a kid, they didn't have this effect. 

[01:19:07] Eldar: Yeah. Maybe you didn't, you didn't pay attention, my man. Yeah. As you get smarter and you start adulting, you start becoming more sensitive to the pains that you're experiencing.

[01:19:17] Eldar: You're like, what is this? What is that? Why 

[01:19:19] Harris: do I have this? Why do I have that? This is the first time I'm acknowledging like you guys talked to me, like convince, kind of help me. We're not trying to convince you of anything, my friend. No, but help me comes to the conclusion I need to talk to my doctor and figure something else with different pills.

[01:19:33] Harris: Yeah. Before that I didn't want to do it because you have no reason for No, bro. If you start going to No, it's because to the gym, I have tr I have trouble for an hour. 

[01:19:43] Eldar: You're not gonna need no pills, bro. Thank you. When I even did that fucking work on you, you fucked yours so hard. 

[01:19:48] Harris: My God. Oh my God. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[01:19:50] Harris: He didn't fuck shit. Holy shit, man. You fucked him. Fine. He six something. Bitch, you didn't. Uh, but no, uh, it was like, uh,

[01:20:01] Harris: what the fuck was I saying? You taking so many pills, taking Angie from Yeah. I, 

[01:20:05] Harris: I didn't like. I didn't want to do it again because I had so much fucking, I guess, trauma from I was a Guinea pig. Yeah. Uh, you know, if something didn't work, doc was like, okay, let's try this. No, no. That's not working. Let's try this.

[01:20:21] Harris: Yeah. 

[01:20:22] Harris: You know, they didn't know what the fuck they were doing. Yeah. And they were pro prescribing me shit, and I'd have side effects where the man boobs the, the fucking uh, black and blues all over my body. Yeah. Yeah. That my school thought my parents were fucking beating me. I remember that phase actually with the black and blues when you came in.

[01:20:40] Harris: My, the fucking school was called because they thought my Yeah. 100% were fucking beating the shit outta me. 

[01:20:45] Eldar: Yeah. It looked weird. Really? Yeah. You forgot, bro. When he was Matt Skinny, he was like, blue everywhere, bro. Like, what the fuck is going on here? I used to be 

[01:20:53] Harris: able to suck in my gut and you could see my fucking rib cage.

[01:20:56] Harris: Yeah. And then I started taking these meds and I started eating more and fucking, yeah. That's what they do. Yeah. Welcome. I look back and I see this skinny ass kid. Imagine how many 

[01:21:08] Eldar: people you actually helped though, because they experimented on your ass. Mm-hmm. Oh, shit. There's a 

[01:21:12] Harris: class action lawsuit against one of the pills that took, never took part of it.

[01:21:16] Eldar: Of course, you didn't regular shit. What was a hundred bucks you gonna get? It's not worth it. 

[01:21:21] Harris: No. 

[01:21:21] Harris: Yeah, 

[01:21:22] Harris: yeah. So what'd you learn

[01:21:28] Harris: then? I'm not the only dumb fuck in the world. 

[01:21:33] Eldar: Sure. Fine. All right. Final thoughts. 

[01:21:37] Harris: How to get girls?

[01:21:44] Harris: It's not as hard 

[01:21:44] Harris: as it looks, but it really is. At the same time, 

[01:21:47] Mike: paradox. Only when you lie to yourself about who you actually are. 

[01:21:52] Harris: Mm-hmm.

[01:21:55] Mike: Accepting yourself is important. And then you don't have to be like, oh, I got bucked teeth. Well, you do have bucked teeth. Okay, so what? Yeah. You got a fucking stinky vagina. What? 

[01:22:04] Harris: Yeah. You know, the, the, the stu the stupid part is like when it, when it came to bullying school 

[01:22:10] Harris: mm-hmm. Like, 

[01:22:12] Harris: I got used to it, you know, I stood up for myself, I let it roll off.

[01:22:15] Harris: Mm-hmm. 

[01:22:16] Harris: But now when I, when I go talk to girls and it's the denial of the fucking shit 

[01:22:21] Eldar: mm-hmm. 

[01:22:21] Harris: I start doing it to myself. Yeah. I, I start, I don't know if you would consider it bullying yourself. 

[01:22:27] Eldar: It is bullying yourself. Mm-hmm. A hundred percent. Like you were born that way. Right. With these teeth. Right?

[01:22:31] Eldar: Yeah. Like, you didn't choose like, Hey God, like can I have these tea? Like, you know, if you, you didn't say this. Yeah. 

[01:22:36] Harris: If, what the fuck you guys or anybody else bust my balls about certain thing. I really don't give a shit. Yeah. But when I give to myself, 

[01:22:44] Eldar: that's on you. 

[01:22:45] Harris: Yeah. 

[01:22:45] Harris: Yeah. I bully myself. Yeah. 

[01:22:47] Harris: Mm-hmm.

[01:22:48] Harris: Yeah.

[01:22:52] Harris: That are my final thoughts, man. Alright. Thank you. Totally getting girls. Mm.

[01:23:03] Harris: Yeah, I think that like, 

[01:23:05] Toliy: as, as, as you like, develop yourself as like a person, I think that you'll continuously get like new perspectives and like discover new shit and more shit will make sense and other stuff will make less sense, you know? Yeah. And I think that during, like the process of doing that, um,

[01:23:26] Toliy: goes hand in hand I think with this topic. 

[01:23:30] Eldar: Yeah. That's probably deeper than what I wanted to say, but, uh, my final thoughts are the fact that like a lot of times when we, uh, I don't know, want something out of the world or girls or the opposite sex, we don't keep in mind the fact that. They're humans 

[01:23:49] Harris: just like us, right?

[01:23:52] Harris: What do they want? Tell me. They don't want to have fun. Like, convince me of this. Mm-hmm. They just wanna have fun, right? They want attention, 

[01:24:05] Eldar: they wanna laugh, they wanna dance, they want all those same things like what are we talking about? Mm-hmm. So if that's the case, relatability should be effortless, but it's so fucking hard.

[01:24:20] Eldar: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Why? Because I think we got stuck on the superficial vanity stuff. 

[01:24:27] Toliy: Yeah. I think more, more and like more and more people are trying to, like, more and more people are trying to do everything they can to be as close to like an AI generated like robot as possible. That's a very good way to put it.

[01:24:40] Toliy: You know, like that's everyone's goal to use every filter possible. Yeah. Get every surgery possible. Yeah. Yeah. Present every good, best self as possible. 

[01:24:50] Harris: Yeah. 

[01:24:50] Toliy: Right. To like, you are like it, like it's almost like people are like running as far as they can away from being a, 

[01:24:58] Eldar: a human. Human, you know? 

[01:24:59] Toliy: Yeah. 

[01:25:00] Eldar: With that being said, Harris, I got 10 grand on the plastic surgery.

[01:25:06] Toliy: Like I got seven on it. 

[01:25:08] Eldar: You got seven on it. 

[01:25:09] Harris: What are you talking about? 

[01:25:10] Eldar: What's the operation that you're gonna cover? Anything? Uh, Tommy talk. 

[01:25:14] Harris: Fuck you man. The movies. Remove 

[01:25:16] Toliy: the movies. No, and fix the tees. We gotta do him the Oscar de la Hoya. You want the fake abs fix Fix? No, first we gotta show him Oscars de la hos before he he makes thing.

[01:25:25] Toliy: Yeah. He's like 60 years old. Yeah. He got a sur surgery for a perfect six pack at times. 

[01:25:29] Harris: Yeah, I saw that. 

[01:25:30] Mike: What 

[01:25:30] Harris: is wrong with you? You all? 

[01:25:32] Mike: Pack. 

[01:25:33] Harris: We'll send you the Turkey man pack. 

[01:25:34] Mike: We'll do everything. Watch 

[01:25:35] Harris: board abs. He's gonna die from like an infection or something 

[01:25:38] Mike: to get you the hair, the teeth, uh, the boobies, the six pack and pro.

[01:25:44] Mike: Maybe if you want to be a six inches tall, we get it. All that. Yeah. Go to Turkey, man. So 

[01:25:49] Harris: you and Turkey, bro. 

[01:25:51] Mike: That's what they 

[01:25:52] Eldar: do this day. Yeah, totally. Makes a good point. Right? Rolling off of what I said about Vanity, that at the end of the day we're leading with the cover of the book and not the book itself.

[01:26:01] Eldar: And the truth is, everyone has the book. 

[01:26:04] Harris: Mm-hmm. 

[01:26:05] Eldar: And if you read it long enough, it's interesting for everyone. It's like an interesting book. 

[01:26:10] Harris: Mm-hmm. 

[01:26:11] Eldar: You know, but we don't lead with that. Therefore, doctor's Prescription Harris, more suffering shit. Continue to suffer Harris, continue to be a loser. Keep telling yourself loser things because you're a loser.

[01:26:27] Eldar: That's it. 

[01:26:27] Toliy: When you come on Monday, we'll all appreciate dandruff. And, and eye boogies. Eye boogies, and dead skin and all of our coffees, please. We can't wait. 

[01:26:37] Harris: Fuck you guys, man. 

[01:26:41] Eldar: That's it. That's all we have, guys. Thank you.